You are a rock star! I spent a couple hours tracing the wiring on my 5045D, removed the ignition panel, removed the starter solenoid wire, disconnected the neutral safety switch, neutral relay and was getting nowhere with my meter. Came back inside and did a quick web search and found a few similar questions but nothing definitive. Then I found your video. It was everything it could be; short and to the point. I was so certain you had provided me with the answer that I went out in my pajamas, unplugged the thermostat sensor, tested with my 12 volt light tester (I'd already smoked 3 fuses), replaced the fuse and fired the tractor up. It did smoke a bit at first, but that has been happening for about two years so I guess that sensor had been going bad for a while. It took me a few minutes to put everything back together, but I did it with a smile because it runs! And now I can sleep tonight instead of thinking about what could be wrong. If you're ever on the West coast of Florida I would be happy to buy you several adult beverages! Thank you!
OK, this video just saved me literally hundreds of dollars. I've spent several hours taking the starter off and having it tested (it was fine), searching the wiring for an abrasion or break (found nothing), spoke to 3 knowledgeable auto mechanics and one tractor mechanic, learned nothing except you have to "just search for the dead short, it's there somewhere". SIGH! I was getting myself ready to call the dealer, having them pick up the tractor, spend probably 1500 to 2000 dollars to have them find the issue. At my wits' end I did what I should have done first-searched for "blown starter relay fuse on John Deere 5055e". Because when I did I found your video. I went to the tractor, disconnected the cold start advance sensor, replaced the fuse, turned the key AND IT STARTED! I can't thank you enough, you're the best! Steve in Nova Scotia
Let me join the fan club here and say that you also saved the day for us. Our JD 5045E mysteriously refused to turn over after trying to start it on a freezing morning last week. Battery was fine, but kept blowing starter relay fuses. Of course the troubleshooting guide in the manual is useless with handy suggestions like "no fuel" but no mention of the cold start advance sensor. Your video was all we needed, disconnected the sensor which was easy to find thanks to the video, put in another 10 amp fuse and it cranked right up. I found a new sensor on eBay for $15 and will install it when it shows up next week, thanks for the tip about the bucket to catch antifreeze leakage! In the meantime my wife's out cutting hay right now. Thanks again for posting this very helpful tutorial. 🙂
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have a John Deere 5055D kept blowing fuse and I tried everything replaced a diode after talking to a JD service Manager assured that was the problem. checked every safety switch. I had about given up. My tractor had been down for weeks and a friend came over and he just thought it was a wire melted or bare spot grounding out. searched many videos and none helped then I came across your video went out unpluged the sensor and it cranked . Thank you so very much.
Thanks so much for your video big help, my son-in-law has a John Deer 5055D exact same symptoms had been troubleshooting for hours started search and found your video absolutely the problem, changed blown fuse disconnected wiring harness to the sensor, and tractor started right up thank you so so much really appreciate your video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much for posting this. My 5075e just had the same problem this morning. Found and swapped the blown fuse and it blew right away. Then i found your video, unplugged the sensor and it's working fine now. I can't imagine how much time and expense it would have taken to figure out what was blowing that fuse without you.
This video just saved my arse! Customer has a 5093E, I was googling wiring schematics and happened to come across this video.. figured it can’t hurt to try, BAM problem solved! Thanks very much from North Queensland Australia!
Your video just saved me time, money, and a whole lot of aggravation (putting it mildly)! I had the exact same problem. None of the professionals that I talked to (and I talked to several) ever suggested looking at the sensor as a possibility. As a side thought, I changed the coolant about a month earlier. Don't know if that played a role in the sensor going bad or not. Guess I'll never know. Thanks for saving my day!!!
Thank you for the info. I have a 2012 5101E and this fixed my tractor. You saved me a bunch of time. Fixed it for about $85:00. That's the sensor and 2 gallons of anti-freeze. Thank you so much for posting this.
I was scratching my head with the same problem and had a mechanic scheduled to come out when I saw your video. You solved the problem and made my day. Thank you
Thanks. My 5055D tractor was doing the same. I did exactly what you said and it fixed my problem and I didn't have to pay someone to come out and fix it. Thanks for saving me a bunch of money.
Thanks. I have a 2007 5103 and it just shut off while idling yesterday. On my JD that fuse is labeled spare. It just kept blowing. Disconnected the thermostat sensor, replaced the fuse again, and started right up. Got me out of the field. I'll replace the sensor now that I know what was up. I appreciate the video!
I have the same year and 5103 also. Same exact thing. Went to drop a round bale in the field and it just died. I said I’d replace the sensor when I disconnected it, but that was 2 years ago. Maybe one of these days
Your procedure worked perfect on a 2011 5075e. Haven't ordered the new sensor yet but every step was perfect. Oh the fuses are mini's by the way. Thank you so very much!!
Thank you so much for making this video! Last evening my 5083e did just what your tractor did. I freaked out at first.. then I knew the answer would be somewhere in CZcams land.. I have some serious mouths to feed.. thanks to finding the problem and then finding the right video. THANK YOU! They all got to eat! God bless you!
I work at a John Deere dealership as a service technician. That is the cold weather timing advance sensor, and is literally not needed in warm climates where it might get below 30 mabye 3 times a year. My best advice is to snip the wire, and tape the connector away because that sensor will go out again, and is not needed. The tractor will just take a little longer to crank when it is cold.
@@nathanschneider8586 upper left 30 amp fuse, I believe f101. it’s only when I try to crank. If I turn the key and then start by shorting the contacts on the starter, it starts and runs fine. I plan to isolate both ignition switch and starter solenoid today to rule them out individually. I also have the battery light on and gauges not working(alternator charging 14.4v) unless I remove fuse f113, then gauges work but battery light stays on. I’m not sure if that’s related or a separate issue.
Like some others, I spent several hours troubleshooting my 5045D starter. After all, shouldn't the start relay be part of the starter circuit? Nope. I found when I pulled out the start relay inside of the fuse box, the start fuse would stop blowing but the tractor would then turn over but not start. Just when I was ready to give up I gave this tip a try. Sure enough, the tractor started right up! Saved me a big pain in the butt of loading up the tractor and taking it to a dealer,
After a whole day of trouble shooting my 5303 with no luck on the cause of no crank. I found your video. Can't thank you enough. Disconnected the sensor, replace the fuse and it cranked right up and saved the day because I really needed to use my tractor. Also, on my fuse block the middle fuse for the starter relay is labeled " spare", go figure.
Don’t know if you still monitor comments on this video, but thank you so much for making it. I just bought a second hand 5083e got it home used it once and then wouldn’t start looked everywhere for an electrical fault and couldn’t find anything. Search up the YT and found your video, went out disconnected one of the sensor ports, tried to restart blew the fuse had another look and second sensor port disconnected that one reconnected the other and tractor starts. 🎉🙏🙏👍🏼🇦🇺
Thank you for sharing. One of my most favorite neighbors has an issue with his 5075E but man it is stuck a mile or two in the woods on his property so wish me luck that this takes care of it!
Thanks for the video. Solved my problem. It appears this is a very common problem. Always a tip off when my John Deere dealer had several of the sensors in stock.
I'm blowing fuses and I do not want to have to go threw that bird's nest of wires in there all day long! I have put almost all new parts on this tractor (D140). Selenoid, battery, PTO switch, Key switch, Coils, plugs, gas filter, air filter, gas pump and a new PTO clutch. As well as eliminating all safety switch's. Oh yeah it has all new spindles on the deck! Last fall the blades stopped while mowing. At first I could get them on again but they would stop working after a few minutes and then it got to where I could not get them working and even had trouble starting the tractor. So I just put it away for winter and now I got this mess in the spring. I got it running with some of those new parts and battery.....but then after mowing three yards on my street I could not get it started after it sat for a while. And I found I was blowing fuses!
Thank you for the information. It is good to be aware of all the things that can go wrong with a tractor. We can save a lot of time and money . I appreciate your help thanks again.
Thank you !!!! We're fairly knew tractor owners and you just saved us some money. I just subscribe to your channel and hope to learn alit more from you .
A multi billion dollars company has its main machine broken, no one can fix it, then they decide to hire a specialist for a million dollars, he looks around flips a switch and the machine is fixed. The CEO asks: "Did I just paid you a million dollars to flip ONE switch?" "No, you paid me that to know which switch to flip."
Thanks For the Tip! I replace the ignition switch on my 2007 5203. Helped a litte but still blowing through fuses. Did you know that John Deer was charging 5 dollars per fuse! I was in a bind and I needed get my hay cut and Autozone or Walmart was out of the way. Now I I have figure out another Engineering Flaw on the Tracker. PTO handle looses after 4 hours turning off and on the PTO. I have to tighten after each day if not, IT will get so loose, the PTO will not turn on. Any help on that?
I have similar issue with JD5075E where 15 amp ignition fuse blows when you try and crank.... unfortunately pulling the temp sensor didn't help... open to suggestions.
Mine did the same thing. Just received my replacement via Amazon, while installing the insulation around the wires tore out where it goes into the sensor. Just applied epoxy to try to reinsulate everything. I have a feeling I will be going to John Deere to order another one later today. Cant complain about cheap China imitations because that's all John Deere is anymore, Made In China.
I'm not getting power to that system at all. I can jump the fuel shut selonoid from the battery and it will fire, but no power to and part of that wiring.
The sensor is for the cold start timing advance system to reduce smoke during start/warm-up so the engine passes emissions tests. It is useless unless you want to reduce engine life and startup smoke.
Quite possibly the most helpful video on the Internet for a john deere owner.
It sure made my day today!
You are a rock star! I spent a couple hours tracing the wiring on my 5045D, removed the ignition panel, removed the starter solenoid wire, disconnected the neutral safety switch, neutral relay and was getting nowhere with my meter. Came back inside and did a quick web search and found a few similar questions but nothing definitive. Then I found your video. It was everything it could be; short and to the point. I was so certain you had provided me with the answer that I went out in my pajamas, unplugged the thermostat sensor, tested with my 12 volt light tester (I'd already smoked 3 fuses), replaced the fuse and fired the tractor up. It did smoke a bit at first, but that has been happening for about two years so I guess that sensor had been going bad for a while. It took me a few minutes to put everything back together, but I did it with a smile because it runs! And now I can sleep tonight instead of thinking about what could be wrong. If you're ever on the West coast of Florida I would be happy to buy you several adult beverages! Thank you!
Thanks, brother!
OK, this video just saved me literally hundreds of dollars. I've spent several hours taking the starter off and having it tested (it was fine), searching the wiring for an abrasion or break (found nothing), spoke to 3 knowledgeable auto mechanics and one tractor mechanic, learned nothing except you have to "just search for the dead short, it's there somewhere". SIGH!
I was getting myself ready to call the dealer, having them pick up the tractor, spend probably 1500 to 2000 dollars to have them find the issue.
At my wits' end I did what I should have done first-searched for "blown starter relay fuse on John Deere 5055e". Because when I did I found your video.
I went to the tractor, disconnected the cold start advance sensor, replaced the fuse, turned the key AND IT STARTED!
I can't thank you enough, you're the best!
Steve in Nova Scotia
Let me join the fan club here and say that you also saved the day for us. Our JD 5045E mysteriously refused to turn over after trying to start it on a freezing morning last week. Battery was fine, but kept blowing starter relay fuses. Of course the troubleshooting guide in the manual is useless with handy suggestions like "no fuel" but no mention of the cold start advance sensor. Your video was all we needed, disconnected the sensor which was easy to find thanks to the video, put in another 10 amp fuse and it cranked right up. I found a new sensor on eBay for $15 and will install it when it shows up next week, thanks for the tip about the bucket to catch antifreeze leakage! In the meantime my wife's out cutting hay right now. Thanks again for posting this very helpful tutorial. 🙂
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have a John Deere 5055D kept blowing fuse and I tried everything replaced a diode after talking to a JD service Manager assured that was the problem. checked every safety switch. I had about given up. My tractor had been down for weeks and a friend came over and he just thought it was a wire melted or bare spot grounding out. searched many videos and none helped then I came across your video went out unpluged the sensor and it cranked . Thank you so very much.
Thanks so much for your video big help, my son-in-law has a John Deer 5055D exact same symptoms had been troubleshooting for hours started search and found your video absolutely the problem, changed blown fuse disconnected wiring harness to the sensor, and tractor started right up thank you so so much really appreciate your video. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks so much for posting this. My 5075e just had the same problem this morning. Found and swapped the blown fuse and it blew right away. Then i found your video, unplugged the sensor and it's working fine now. I can't imagine how much time and expense it would have taken to figure out what was blowing that fuse without you.
This video just saved my arse! Customer has a 5093E, I was googling wiring schematics and happened to come across this video.. figured it can’t hurt to try, BAM problem solved! Thanks very much from North Queensland Australia!
Your video just saved me time, money, and a whole lot of aggravation (putting it mildly)! I had the exact same problem. None of the professionals that I talked to (and I talked to several) ever suggested looking at the sensor as a possibility. As a side thought, I changed the coolant about a month earlier. Don't know if that played a role in the sensor going bad or not. Guess I'll never know. Thanks for saving my day!!!
Thank you for the info. I have a 2012 5101E and this fixed my tractor. You saved me a bunch of time. Fixed it for about $85:00. That's the sensor and 2 gallons of anti-freeze. Thank you so much for posting this.
I was scratching my head with the same problem and had a mechanic scheduled to come out when I saw your video. You solved the problem and made my day. Thank you
Thank you for the video! You're an absolute life saver. Mine quit in the middle of the roofing job and your video was 100% helpful
Thanks. My 5055D tractor was doing the same. I did exactly what you said and it fixed my problem and I didn't have to pay someone to come out and fix it. Thanks for saving me a bunch of money.
EXACTLY what happened to my 5303. Thank-you so much for leading me to the diagnostic answer and fix!!!
Thanks man. My tractor had this exact issue. Started right up after I disconnected the sensor and replaced the fuse. Saved me $400!
Having this problem today. Looked it up and watched your video. You just saved a large service call repair bill. Thanks so much!
You just saved me a massive headache man lol
In a big hurry to move a downed tree, tractor wouldn’t crank. Thanks!
Thanks. I have a 2007 5103 and it just shut off while idling yesterday. On my JD that fuse is labeled spare. It just kept blowing. Disconnected the thermostat sensor, replaced the fuse again, and started right up. Got me out of the field. I'll replace the sensor now that I know what was up. I appreciate the video!
Good to hear this fixed your problem. I also have a 5103 and hopefully this will fix this same issue.
I have the same year and 5103 also. Same exact thing. Went to drop a round bale in the field and it just died. I said I’d replace the sensor when I disconnected it, but that was 2 years ago. Maybe one of these days
@fenderbender, that is exactly what mine did. Blew the fuse, unplugged it, and it fired up.
Your procedure worked perfect on a 2011 5075e. Haven't ordered the new sensor yet but every step was perfect. Oh the fuses are mini's by the way. Thank you so very much!!
Thank you so much for making this video! Last evening my 5083e did just what your tractor did. I freaked out at first.. then I knew the answer would be somewhere in CZcams land.. I have some serious mouths to feed.. thanks to finding the problem and then finding the right video. THANK YOU! They all got to eat! God bless you!
I work at a John Deere dealership as a service technician. That is the cold weather timing advance sensor, and is literally not needed in warm climates where it might get below 30 mabye 3 times a year. My best advice is to snip the wire, and tape the connector away because that sensor will go out again, and is not needed. The tractor will just take a little longer to crank when it is cold.
I have a 1996 6400. My fuse keeps blowing when I turn the key. Could this be my problem? Thanks in advance.
@@Kyle-wo4vd it's a possibility, what fuse is blowing? And is it blowing with the key on, or when you try to crank?
@@Kyle-wo4vd and you can try unplugging it, installing a new fuse and try cranking.
@@nathanschneider8586 upper left 30 amp fuse, I believe f101. it’s only when I try to crank. If I turn the key and then start by shorting the contacts on the starter, it starts and runs fine. I plan to isolate both ignition switch and starter solenoid today to rule them out individually. I also have the battery light on and gauges not working(alternator charging 14.4v) unless I remove fuse f113, then gauges work but battery light stays on. I’m not sure if that’s related or a separate issue.
@@nathanschneider8586 new fuses blow 8 out of 10 times. Occasionally it starts fine.
Like some others, I spent several hours troubleshooting my 5045D starter. After all, shouldn't the start relay be part of the starter circuit? Nope. I found when I pulled out the start relay inside of the fuse box, the start fuse would stop blowing but the tractor would then turn over but not start. Just when I was ready to give up I gave this tip a try. Sure enough, the tractor started right up! Saved me a big pain in the butt of loading up the tractor and taking it to a dealer,
You just saved my friend a $250 farm visit fee for the FIRST HOUR and who knows how much to diagnose the problem. Thanks much!
After a whole day of trouble shooting my 5303 with no luck on the cause of no crank. I found your video. Can't thank you enough. Disconnected the sensor, replace the fuse and it cranked right up and saved the day because I really needed to use my tractor. Also, on my fuse block the middle fuse for the starter relay is labeled " spare", go figure.
Don’t know if you still monitor comments on this video, but thank you so much for making it. I just bought a second hand 5083e got it home used it once and then wouldn’t start looked everywhere for an electrical fault and couldn’t find anything. Search up the YT and found your video, went out disconnected one of the sensor ports, tried to restart blew the fuse had another look and second sensor port disconnected that one reconnected the other and tractor starts. 🎉🙏🙏👍🏼🇦🇺
The gift that keeps giving. I can fix just about anything on my 5500 if I know what it is needs fixing. THANKS!!!
Thanks for the awesome video. Saved me lots of money and frustration
This was the only failure I have had on my 5520 in the last 20 years...thank goodness for CZcams.
Thank you for sharing. One of my most favorite neighbors has an issue with his 5075E but man it is stuck a mile or two in the woods on his property so wish me luck that this takes care of it!
Thank you so much! I have a 2008 JD 5203 and sure enough that was the problem. Saves me from so much investigative work!
Awesome video! Just fixed the same problem on my 5105 thanks to your video.
Thanks! Worked like a champ. Ordered the new part from the John Deere dealer it was only $20.85. Should be here in a couple of days.
Thanks Greg. You saved me a whole lot of grief. The problem is solved with a new sensor ordered. God Bless!
You may have just saved me lots of time and money. When the sun comes up, I will check my fuse.
You saved me no telling how much time and money THANK YOU !!!!
Exactly what the problem is with my 5045D! I probably going to leave it disconnected in Southeast Texas! It is hot here! Thanks for the information.
Right on track, my 5075e had this problem. Exactly what it needed.!
This saved ny bacon, plus a lot of money. Was exactly what was wrong with my JD 5055e. Thank you for sharing this.
You are the man! Fixed my 5055 in less than a minute
Thanks. My 3032e is doing the same thing. I’m gonna check it out.
Thanks for the video. Solved my problem. It appears this is a very common problem. Always a tip off when my John Deere dealer had several of the sensors in stock.
What an awesome tip about this fault. Thank you for sharing
Supper glad for the video! Had a 5045e and did exactly what yours did and thanks to you we are up and going again.
Where is your cold start sensor on your tractor can't find mine
I'm blowing fuses and I do not want to have to go threw that bird's nest of wires in there all day long! I have put almost all new parts on this tractor (D140). Selenoid, battery, PTO switch, Key switch, Coils, plugs, gas filter, air filter, gas pump and a new PTO clutch. As well as eliminating all safety switch's. Oh yeah it has all new spindles on the deck! Last fall the blades stopped while mowing. At first I could get them on again but they would stop working after a few minutes and then it got to where I could not get them working and even had trouble starting the tractor. So I just put it away for winter and now I got this mess in the spring. I got it running with some of those new parts and battery.....but then after mowing three yards on my street I could not get it started after it sat for a while. And I found I was blowing fuses!
Thank you. 5045E is fixed. On to getting sensor replacement , again with your help. Take care...
Good man-for posting this video! Saved me from buying a starter!
Maybe me too. I hope
Thanks Greg.. i did exactly what you did and it worked 💪 mine is a 5303 2006 year
Amazing !! Lifesaver. So simple when you know. Now wondering if I need this sensor in UK climate.
Thank you for your information. It really helped me for I haven’t had any instruments for testing.
Deere 5325 has the same symptoms. I can jump the starter solenoid to battery + and it starts. I will try this next time I'm out there. Thank You!
Deere 6110 same thing we jumped the starter selenoid
Thank you so much, such a simple fix once you know but you don't know what you don't know
Thank you for the information. It is good to be aware of all the things that can go wrong with a tractor. We can save a lot of time and money . I appreciate your help thanks again.
That worked to diagnose my 5103. Thank you.
Thank you !!!! We're fairly knew tractor owners and you just saved us some money. I just subscribe to your channel and hope to learn alit more from you .
Had the same problem as well good video saved me alot of money Thanks.
5075e
Thank you. You saved me time and money. two things I need more of. Lol
A multi billion dollars company has its main machine broken, no one can fix it, then they decide to hire a specialist for a million dollars, he looks around flips a switch and the machine is fixed. The CEO asks:
"Did I just paid you a million dollars to flip ONE switch?"
"No, you paid me that to know which switch to flip."
Dad sends his thanks. This got his 5055 going again.
Thank you very much for your hands on repair.
WooHoo!! Saved me a call to a mechanic!
Bro thank you been tracing wires for two days on mine and unplugged it and do the trick bad thermostat sensor it is
Thanks for the video and solution, when i started the tractor up it smoked quite a bit then cleared up, was that a common thing gor anyone else
Thank you so much! Got me out of a bind quick!
Muchas gracias! Tenía exactamente el síntoma en un 5054e y desconectar el mismo sensor resolvió el problema.
Hoping this is my issue, fingers crossed, thanks for the video!
I'm about to check out a 2018 5065e for a neighbor.
Thanks For the Tip! I replace the ignition switch on my 2007 5203. Helped a litte but still blowing through fuses. Did you know that John Deer was charging 5 dollars per fuse! I was in a bind and I needed get my hay cut and Autozone or Walmart was out of the way. Now I I have figure out another Engineering Flaw on the Tracker. PTO handle looses after 4 hours turning off and on the PTO. I have to tighten after each day if not, IT will get so loose, the PTO will not turn on. Any help on that?
Quick question: would it completely lose electrical power? (Would the dash stay on?)
I have similar issue with JD5075E where 15 amp ignition fuse blows when you try and crank.... unfortunately pulling the temp sensor didn't help... open to suggestions.
Mine did the same thing. Just received my replacement via Amazon, while installing the insulation around the wires tore out where it goes into the sensor. Just applied epoxy to try to reinsulate everything. I have a feeling I will be going to John Deere to order another one later today. Cant complain about cheap China imitations because that's all John Deere is anymore, Made In China.
You saved my butt on the 5083
Oh and do recommend a particular forum to gather additional information from?
Thank you so much for posting you video just save my.
Thanks for the video. Saved the day
Oh crap. Saw this too late. Bought a starter😬
you the man!
Thank you sir!!!
Great information
Thanks bud
Nice!
I'm not getting power to that system at all. I can jump the fuel shut selonoid from the battery and it will fire, but no power to and part of that wiring.
Tractor turns over but takes a long time to start
Unfortunately this wasn't my problem. Still can't figure out what's going on. Checked every fuse and relay. Turn key nothing happens.
My 5075E blows the fuse but continues to turn over just won't start.. It's the 15amp ignition fuse.
Starter relay switch
Unplugged and plugged the temperature sensor back in, works perfectly now.
Keep my fingers crossed back out to barn
Thanks thanks thanks
Tractor tries to turn over but have to leave the ignition switch on for a long time
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Hi
Anyone else disconnect this sensor and the tractor blows smoke out of the exhaust?
The sensor is for the cold start timing advance system to reduce smoke during start/warm-up so the engine passes emissions tests. It is useless unless you want to reduce engine life and startup smoke.
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