I call the level of focus he is describing as hyper focus. Nothing gets in its way. It is wonderfully terrifying in how productive in the moment you can be.
Tô Solto eu tô solta porque eu tenho as provas e tô falando a verdade eu tenho meus direitos como cidadão se eu tô com as provas estão com a verdade não tem macho nenhum que me prenda não tem nenhum do que me prendeu com a minha verdade com as provas as provas e a verdade porque que ela vai me prender que lei é essa reage Pelo certo ou pelas mentiras agora eu queria entender porque que eu estou solto que ele não tem as provas e tô mentindo e tu me condenando se eles tem o direito de mentir me condenar e tão solto da mesma forma eu tenho medo
Tudo isso aí é no rabo da p****** da v**** que eu vou botar toda essa sujeira aí tá tudo dentro do rabo daquela vasilha aqueles cura todas as conversas furadas aí que eles inventaram a minha vida projetario é tudo no rabo da p*** das mulher dele todas as palavras que você falou aí que não tem nada a ver comigo é tudo socado dentro das p******* da mulher dele por isso que eu sou direto no assunto solto eu sou grosso mesmo porque que eu sou grosso que eu vou direto no assunto eu não fico p*** era babá Não quando eu quero ficar com p*** eu vou para a zona eu vou direto no assunto
Desenganado comigo esses que me atacam coitado deles se eles acham que eu tô apavorado com eles se eles acham que eu tô preocupado com eles pelo contrário eu tenho todas as armas contra ele por isso que eu tô tranquilo na paz não tem dia nem hora não tenho pressa
This really hit me. I went through some horrific stuff, ran away, and was pursued by a group of men who had participated in my trafficking experience. That constant vigilance and survival wrecked me from feeling like every day would be my last. But it doesn't matter. Anymore. The abuse doesn't matter anymore. The trafficking doesn't matter anymore. Running away from everything (including trying to run away from myself) doesn't matter anymore. I feel truly relaxed for one of the first times in 18 years.
Hyper- Focus Flow State Extreme Mindfulness All tactics to silence distraction and achieve your goals. Go for the one that works best for you; and get after it!!
16:10 Absolute fire. This ties in to what Andrew Huberman says about tying the short term actions to the long term goal. There is no goal without the steps to get there. Tell yourself it matters because without it, you won't get to the goal.
Long ago I had a TBI (traumatic brain injury), and I lost the ability to "push out" unwanted information. They call it damage to the "executive function." A lot of mental stretching helps. Find the things that make you clam up, the things you do are scared of (not intellectually, but the things that make your heart beat fast in a bad way)... LIVE THERE. Breathe slowly. Work. Allow yourself more time. Talk to people who may be out of your group: kitchen workers, construction workers... I'm just saying. This fragmentation is part of the loss of executive function. Jocko hasn't faced it. It's not voluntary. It's Whim Hoff level. Stick with it, brother.
Had the same but Mild version. Had trouble filling out forms and paperwork post deployment. Never heard of term damage to the "executive function". Took two plus years for the brain fog to lift. This is excellent advice from Jocko.
I appreciate how Jody is keeping it honest with his personal struggles. I can relate a lot. Sometimes Willpower just ain't enough...let's get real about that. If that was the case then there would be NO problem with Follow Through.
I walk 2-3 miles at a time while reading a book... I’m a head case... former panic attacks, former psoriasis, former depression, classic ADHD... walking and reading is a drug. A sensory reset. I’m back to reading a book a month. Thanks for sharing this story
I really appreciate and respect how humble these brave men are. I get to listen to so many great role models and learn from them. This is my favorite podcast on the internet. Hands down #1!
That has to to with them being successful guys as opposed to tough. It's because successful guys aren't as insecure and the other thing is they're often times consciously aware of what their weaknesses actually are. A lot of people aren't really aware of what their weaknesses are and that alone could be the reason they aren't successful.
he is just in constant cycle of self pity and avoiding responsibility, blaming everything on his bs diagnosis, drug use, talking about how his brain this and that, oxycoton replaced with social media, this idiot is probably daily binging on social media and all he can come up with is complaining how he cant focus and how it bugs him, he is barely listening to jocko as he is too bussy thinking about ways how he could make himself seem like a victim, its just pathetic
Mike Earls its also a really important part of Extreme Ownership. You need to know your own brain if you want to have a strong foundation of self-leadership to be able to lead others.
He says "ADD" as a bit of a throwaway in the beginning, but... does anyone know if he got himself a really solid course of treatment? ADD is *not* attention deficit. No. It is attention *Dichotomy* disorder. They got the name wrong trying to get kids to focus. But as an ADDer myself, I can focus *really* damn well. It is called Hyperfocus. So in the highly structured environment where priorities were made *really* clear, you might perform to a Michael Phelps level. Sniper sounds like the *best* job. A spotter communicates directions and a squad takes care of any possible other priorities. The ADDer gets to do breath meditation and *literally* hyperfocus down the scope of a rifle. Sounds like Heaven. But in normal life, you can't do that. In normal life you have to actually flexibly manage "How much attention should I give this thing?". ADD makes it harder to manage that *dichotomy* of *self*-leadership. Good ideas if you have ADD: - Take ownership: Learn how your brain works. Look up who invented the electric vacuum cleaner and why. - Hit the gym and work out *intensely*. Every push-up is giving your dopamine-starved brain some love. - Build habits to turn clutter into order. You might find that normal todo systems don't work well enough and you want some help from someone who can systematize things to an extreme degree. An autistic friend can perform really well in collaboration here. - When you have a task, give yourself a crystal-clear idea of what a successful minute looks like. (Hint: a minute spent on a "failure" where you learned how to do it correctly is a successful minute.) - Find a job where you get Commander's Intent: clear priorities and why. - Get a prescription for properly-dosed (probably stimulant) medication. Bad ideas if you have ADD: - Do a randomly-dosed amount of cocaine just because it hits the brain kinda like Ritalin[1]. - Becoming a politician and letting a whole town try to demand your attention in 1,000 different directions. That sounds like hell. [1] www.mdedge.com/psychiatry/article/88937/addiction-medicine/your-patient-using-cocaine-self-medicate-undiagnosed
@ I only got medication last year. I could hyperfocus plenty of times beforehand. Your experience is yours and I hope even over the internet that you can feel my sympathy for the suck. My philosophy: You should get medicated only if you take ownership of your health and body. Kids often live under the roof of the "micro-managing commander" who doesn't trust "subordinates" enough to let them take ownership of *anything*. ADHD kids? Even less trust. So without ownership, these kids don't get a voice in titrating their own medication. So kids get stuck on meds with side-effects where an adult would report and switch.
This guy is literally me. I go from subject to subject until I'm satisfied and then move on. It's a struggle because I don't finish anything - except my degree in Engineering. Even at work I'll follow a project for a few weeks and then I'm bored to tears and I move on.
Tyler Laurie get evaluated for ADHD. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need. Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
There is a rush with starting something new that is different than the satisfaction of seeing something all the way through. There is definitely some documentation out about it. Google it, read and about it and understanding that fact can help a lot.
I’m like this too. I struggle because I highly value my health and I meditate and exercise but I feel like I have to take add meds during the week to keep my life from slowly i threading into chaos.
Thanks for sharing your deep personal feelings and setbacks your going to through. Hope things got better since and you followed through. We all have our battles and they are all very similar.
Mr Mitic, Sir, I appreciate your dilemma. If what you want is to get the book done in a night, like Jocko says get it in your head that this is the mission. Visualize and actialize. However I am often not like Jocko, but I still admire his Jockoisms. What I do at 33 with a similar issue to yours. Is to read 10 books over ten weeks and give myself options. Keep those books on hand and choose the one you are ready to read, take the time to contemplate the others as far as youve read them and each time you finish a book add one more to your, immediate library. Some books I read over a year or two, but I contemplate them in the mean time and as I continue to grow, my new experiences and understandings grow with every page of each book I read. Find your style. Keep growing. Stay focused brother. The bottom line is discipline, the means is maliable. Experiment and get out of your comfort zones.
For Jocko consistency is key. For guys with the minds of artists the stages we go through in life throw us curveballs. Respond with a change up, be flexible, dont force change, shake up your routine and dont wait for windows of opportunity to come, work harder to find those windows for change. Think differently than you did yesterday. For guys like us, if you agree, are not a consistent continuation but an anthology of opportunities.
Thanks, these guys inspire me everyday to "stay on the path" determination in life is key. Never give up. Accepting failure as who you are is much worse than death. Get some!
After watching again. Jocko really nailed it. Know where your responsibilities lie. Life changes and we have to keep up to keep growing through every life stage as it comes. Dont compare yourself to who you were yesterday.
Jocko brings a great perspective to things. Mainly in the sense of holding yourself accountable the getting over an ex video really gave me some perspective. Much appreciated man.
I wish I could say something to Jody here, but the best thing for me was to try doing 100% discipline as a "test" for a week to see how it effected me. I would not break promises to myself because I was just doing it for the week and was tired of being in my limbo state. Doing it under the premise of being a test was crucial for my mindset. I also realized subconsciously that I felt like I "deserved" happiness for doing some task I needed to. Sometimes that comes, sometimes it doesn't, and I realized how much thinking that way messed with my mindset, and how entitled it was. I was subconsciously looking for a method to enjoy mundane tasks... Which I should never expect to! Merely sitting down and asking yourself what would be that much better than what you are currently doing is great too. For example, I could do my homework, or hang out with friends. This made me sad originally, since I was missing out on hanging out with my friends. But I then realized how forgetable hanging out with friends was on a daily schedule. You don't remember those things, you remember hanging out with friends on the weekend for a long time because you got your work done earlier in the week instead of goofing off! I am by no means disciplined, but I am definitely getting better!
Something I am havjng trouble with was the critique of self. I.e, I would NEVER feel like I worked out enough, or studied enough. Admittedly trying to work on that now, but that's another detrimental thought process to look out for.
balderrising1 Tyler Laurie get evaluated for ADHD. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need. Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
this is exactly what i needed to hear right now. ive been completely addicted to training for boxing all day and completely neglecting all my school work. its caused tension between me and my family. ive been so focused on "discipline" that i was blinded to the fact that i could achieve more success and exercise real discipline at the same time by just doing the work i need to do
I have problems focusing on the things I need to do, like studying or doing work and my mind always drifts off into another place that is more "more fun" to me. I don't know how to fix it and I want to become better, but I am stuck at this mental block. It may even be my discipline that I have issues with to as well, I do something but I always try to find a way to get out of it and not to finish it. Like Jody Mitic, I used to be very determined on the things I was doing, going 100% on the things I want/needed to do like studying, but I just have seem to lost it and I want it back. I am trying to fix it now and hopefully get a my future straight because I have big dreams that I want to conquer, I just need to fix this block. If anyone has any tips that would be helpful, hopefully Jocko or Jody would see this comment and could add some input as well!
I think this is a good comparison into how an add/adhd person handles tasks vs normal people. Discipline & will power are a part but mental disorders are a real thing, peoples minds will work different (like a bi polar person as another example) so it is can be more difficult for certain tasks but more beneficial in others like physical activity
Made me think about my current situation - i think i need to set the end goal on any task before i can actually focus on it. Once i can quantify the end, i can reach the end.
Same music so helps me at gym..,nice to hear how it also works for jody....plus leave i gym so happy...after good fitness and good music,,,nice to hear its other people's //go to........ thing too..yea music and also these podcast really help with all my issues going on //// with just life in general.. And the issues that many of us struggle with ..that others just don't understand,,,I find this platform that Jocko does really helps me and bet it really helps others to ....to just understand ...each other..,and shout out to echo...looking jacked as always...,,,,,,#8
I'm an overweight slob that lives in a pig sty, but since the other day I started listening, I now use an ash tray instead of ashing on the floor and putting my butts out on the wall, baby steps👍
Good job Echo for pulling this gem back from three years ago. I keep hearing Jody's voice now, "Done! Gone!" with that Canadian accent. Good excerpt. My latest trick is thinking of Susie Green from "Curb Your Enthusiasm." She banned Larry from her house and at one point he is begging to use her bathroom. She tells him "No, you're banned. What, does my word mean nothing? A ban is a ban." That actually helped. Funny show.
I Love what Jody Mitic says he is not there right now vs ten years ago. For me up to my early 30s I was a risk taker. I would make decisions on a whim, I ran every night when I got home for 30 mins. Now I am the total opposite of that, wallowing in procrastination, sigh! but I am still hopeful.
Viv Aquariius Everything Jody said sounded like my ADHD. I’m much better at life since getting treatment. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need. Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
Perfect timing.. I’ve got a major biochemistry exam this week to study for.... I need to recognize which distractions are important (getting the kids to and from school) and which are not (social media). Actually, I’ve had friends message me to make sure I’m still alive!!
You rock! Hope to see you arround. I would like to interview live with you guys on the topics of extreem ownership and addiction. Maybe we could frame Mcconville as a modle for a topic an talk about addiction and empowerment of women.
“Line these up as an exercise in discipline” But to do this, you need to know the discipline you’re trying to build. For me, the discipline is to keep connecting with the “Why?” that I’m going for.
*Everything* Jody says sounds like my ADHD (inattentive subtype) and I’d like to give him some tips. 1) Don’t just say “I’m pretty ADD.” Actually dig into it so you can get clarity. Put a Ned Hallowell audiobook on and go for a walk in the woods and think if it really resonates for you. 2) If it does, take ownership. You wouldn’t let your equipment be unmaintained. So, if you have an ADHD brain, thats the equipment you’ve got and you need to take ownership of maintaining it. 3) Set up structure to work for you, even if it looks silly. Maybe hire a personal assistant. 4) Talk to a psychiatrist. Medication is genuinely effective and transformative in managing ADHD. Properly-dosed medication is waaay safer than self-medicating with cocaine. You’ve got an uphill battle because of the history of addiction, so a psych will probably start with Strattera, which is non-addicting. But you’ve fought uphill battles before. The key to this one isn’t willpower, its logistics. Its setting the right systems. If that means hiring a secretary to hold your supply of dexamfetamine and give you one dose at a time during titration: do that. 5) Don’t look for a lover to be your secretary. No. Two separate roles. You wouldn’t want to date someone who tries to mother you.
Add here and family members got it too. I was exercising, medtating, doing my best to focus but all the time energy getting out no control over mysrlf, after 3 days with no exercising and doing stuff im losing my mind and i say this is fuqing addiction, like i cant survive if i dont do something to calm me down. And later i found Jesus Christ so he fixed my highlevel energy. Not focusing at all but now into almost normal focus with no need of much exercise torturing, controlable overthinking and got clearer mind, no impulses of wanting material things, fasting of everyting that causes addiction with no problem not just food but internet games, women, adrenalin, dopamine. God does miracles ask for him u will see him and he will help u.
I find it beneficial to break down a large task into smaller daily tasks. For example, when I translate a book, I assess how difficult it is and from there how many words I can do per day, could be anywhere between 1000 and 4000 words. Then I #getafterit. I know what my daily quota is and it's manageable. Watching the word count meter going up as I type is also motivational in its own weird way. I think, "Great! Only 400 words to go", and so on.
Guys that are 'rough', don't see themselves as tough. They're just themselves. It's others that perceive them as tough. Which they are.... That's just how they act because that's who they are and how they've been trained.
question for Jocko. said he has trouble sleeping in other videos. for the days you are trying to sleep at whatever expected time.. and your mind or body disagrees and end up being awake till 3 am.. how do you combat that, do you just say if icant sleep at this time , screw it i wake up anyway? goal would be sleeping by midnight give or take and up by 7 or 8, and some days here and there be im staring at the cieling till 3 or 4 am..
Many times we have to re-negotiate our priorities, so getting stuff done, becomes very inefficient. Eventually things get taken care of, but it all of these interruptions can be very frustrating. I always had better grades when I was playing a sport, and the off season grades were not so good. WTF....just want to take care of business!
I agree; I also think that some people are more "parallel" task masters (as opposed to sequential task masters). Meaning: they'd have to do a lot of DIFFERENT things to the best of their ability, rather than zap their energy on a single task for prolonged periods of time. I mean, at least, this is how my ADD tends to work --
It's going to take some exploring, experimenting, and following through to finish (at least once) each experiment to the best of your ability... BUT find a hobby. In fact, find a few. They don't have to be too ambitious. They just have to be skills that challenge you... at least a little bit. It helps if they're something pretty far different from your usual stuff to do... whatever you're studying primarily (like a major in college, or certain certifications for work, etc...) Sure, in decent weather you can still do sports. It's partly the activity that keeps your mind fresh and "rolling". Sometimes, bad weather days stop that business... so an indoor something that helps you focus on "something completely different" from the daily "grind" stuff. I have a ton of indoor qualified hobbies. Whenever I'm at that "repetitive mundane work" grind, I can let my mind break a little to what else I need to think about for a hobby's next project, or the current thing I'm doing as a hobby... like leather-craft. Currently, I'm mostly a carpenter/woodworker. The difference (around here) being a Carpenter frames houses and "roughs in" structures... even "Finishing" the internal trims and making everything "marry up" right... A Woodworker is the guy who builds fine furniture, redresses old furniture, and does those clever looking refinements to otherwise drab furnishings people seem to love to decorate their houses with... It's nice work, if you like it... BUT it's a LOT of repetitive stuff for small things. SO I think about leather... Leather (oddly) is even the roots of how I got into making and repairing, altering clothes, and creating costumes. When I'm not actively DOING this hobby, I'm letting images float through my head that might help with how next I'm going to approach a project in it. I'm thinking about the next design to carve into a belt or applique... or I'm contemplating an easier way to tool and stitch together the inside of a press-formed pouch or purse... That's a bit of a "JORB"... (lolz) Okay, not to get too far into the tangent of leather. Your newfound hand-strength will be nice, though. (lolz) BUT that's the kind of hobby I'm talking about. JUST something completely different that you can get into... and maybe (if it's a craft) you can get something real and tangible out of it. ...AND as a bonus, you can have a new thing constantly rumbling in the back of your mind to clear the "monkey chatter" of distractions away and help you bounce back to what you're doing, where you're at... and even what's important now. ;o)
Jody just like competing or getting “stage ready” with building your body. If you want to become 💯 focused again you have to build that “muscle” up as well. Good Luck 🍀 and get after it.
Never met this AD+ Champion. But I know that is a basic fact. Champion. Someday... Oh baby. That jargon is warming my caucles lol. Love you Jody. Yeah-yeah you too Jocko. Lol. Hopeful doesn't even scratch the definitional surface. Thank you. Trauner too. Personal Heroes+. Over,
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"No fear, No distractions, the ability to let that which does not matter truly slide."- Tyler Durden Fight Club 1999
F**** C*** please. We don't talk about it.
This makes me feel peace. Exactly what I was just thinking also
Thank you Jocko and team
"I am not a sucker , I'm a Soldier"
Everyone needs to be a soldier
DISCIPLINE = FREEDOM
'rah!
Exactly correct. Life is war. Live proudly and fight every day.
No. Everyone needs to be a warrior, not a soldier.
i was wanting to hear jocko and echo participate more but their guest kept interrupting :(
_"Oh, you want me to hang up these Christmas lights? I'LL HANG UP THESE CHRISTMAS LIGHTS."_
I call the level of focus he is describing as hyper focus. Nothing gets in its way. It is wonderfully terrifying in how productive in the moment you can be.
wildtwindad it can be achieved with adderral lol
Being in the zone. The "flow" state.
A McKinney it can be achieved without adderall, too, which is good because adderall is very bad for your heart.
@@LisaCapron That's not what I've found. What are your sources?
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1104778
Lol ‘what are your sources’? You’ve never had it?
got murdered? Good. time to reincarnate as someone stronger.
fkn lol
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Tô Solto eu tô solta porque eu tenho as provas e tô falando a verdade eu tenho meus direitos como cidadão se eu tô com as provas estão com a verdade não tem macho nenhum que me prenda não tem nenhum do que me prendeu com a minha verdade com as provas as provas e a verdade porque que ela vai me prender que lei é essa reage Pelo certo ou pelas mentiras agora eu queria entender porque que eu estou solto que ele não tem as provas e tô mentindo e tu me condenando se eles tem o direito de mentir me condenar e tão solto da mesma forma eu tenho medo
Tudo isso aí é no rabo da p****** da v**** que eu vou botar toda essa sujeira aí tá tudo dentro do rabo daquela vasilha aqueles cura todas as conversas furadas aí que eles inventaram a minha vida projetario é tudo no rabo da p*** das mulher dele todas as palavras que você falou aí que não tem nada a ver comigo é tudo socado dentro das p******* da mulher dele por isso que eu sou direto no assunto solto eu sou grosso mesmo porque que eu sou grosso que eu vou direto no assunto eu não fico p*** era babá Não quando eu quero ficar com p*** eu vou para a zona eu vou direto no assunto
Desenganado comigo esses que me atacam coitado deles se eles acham que eu tô apavorado com eles se eles acham que eu tô preocupado com eles pelo contrário eu tenho todas as armas contra ele por isso que eu tô tranquilo na paz não tem dia nem hora não tenho pressa
This really hit me.
I went through some horrific stuff, ran away, and was pursued by a group of men who had participated in my trafficking experience. That constant vigilance and survival wrecked me from feeling like every day would be my last.
But it doesn't matter. Anymore.
The abuse doesn't matter anymore. The trafficking doesn't matter anymore. Running away from everything (including trying to run away from myself) doesn't matter anymore.
I feel truly relaxed for one of the first times in 18 years.
The timing of this video is perfect. I needed this reflection, thank you! God bless.
Wow you are beautiful
@@laylowbNetherlands Simp.
@@UnknownPlayer-eg4tc Simply beautiful
@@laylowbNetherlands well played against the parrot
A simp is a man that walks by a woman he wants to say something to, but doesn't.
Parrot Boy.
"ADD does not mean that I can't focus, it means I don't give a shit what you are trying to teach me." OMG that is so true!
Same
Imo, these aren’t podcasts. These are valuable therapy sessions.
Hyper- Focus
Flow State
Extreme Mindfulness
All tactics to silence distraction and achieve your goals.
Go for the one that works best for you; and get after it!!
16:10 Absolute fire. This ties in to what Andrew Huberman says about tying the short term actions to the long term goal. There is no goal without the steps to get there. Tell yourself it matters because without it, you won't get to the goal.
Long ago I had a TBI (traumatic brain injury), and I lost the ability to "push out" unwanted information. They call it damage to the "executive function." A lot of mental stretching helps. Find the things that make you clam up, the things you do are scared of (not intellectually, but the things that make your heart beat fast in a bad way)... LIVE THERE. Breathe slowly. Work. Allow yourself more time. Talk to people who may be out of your group: kitchen workers, construction workers... I'm just saying. This fragmentation is part of the loss of executive function. Jocko hasn't faced it. It's not voluntary. It's Whim Hoff level. Stick with it, brother.
Had the same but Mild version. Had trouble filling out forms and paperwork post deployment. Never heard of term damage to the "executive function". Took two plus years for the brain fog to lift.
This is excellent advice from Jocko.
echo and jocko compliment each other so well
I appreciate how Jody is keeping it honest with his personal struggles. I can relate a lot. Sometimes Willpower just ain't enough...let's get real about that. If that was the case then there would be NO problem with Follow Through.
One of the best clips I've seen. This and the Musashi (Jocko ep. 100) podcast have had a deep impact on my life.
Musashi podcast?
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D F episode 100 I think. Either way, google Jocko musashi and you will find it.
@@dougblack2057 That's what I meant. Thanks for clarifying for others.
@@Jay-eb7ik Ha - good point Jay. I missed that you put the episode number in your comment. I was mainly responding to D F.
It's so funny when you randomly hear Echo softly moan in the background
I walk 2-3 miles at a time while reading a book... I’m a head case... former panic attacks, former psoriasis, former depression, classic ADHD... walking and reading is a drug. A sensory reset. I’m back to reading a book a month.
Thanks for sharing this story
I really appreciate and respect how humble these brave men are. I get to listen to so many great role models and learn from them. This is my favorite podcast on the internet. Hands down #1!
Minutes of my life I will never get back. First Jocko video I regret watching
I like how the guy on the left is actually exposing some of his weaknesses...don't see that much on this extremely tough guy channel.
That has to to with them being successful guys as opposed to tough. It's because successful guys aren't as insecure and the other thing is they're often times consciously aware of what their weaknesses actually are. A lot of people aren't really aware of what their weaknesses are and that alone could be the reason they aren't successful.
he is just in constant cycle of self pity and avoiding responsibility, blaming everything on his bs diagnosis, drug use, talking about how his brain this and that, oxycoton replaced with social media, this idiot is probably daily binging on social media and all he can come up with is complaining how he cant focus and how it bugs him, he is barely listening to jocko as he is too bussy thinking about ways how he could make himself seem like a victim, its just pathetic
Mike Earls its also a really important part of Extreme Ownership. You need to know your own brain if you want to have a strong foundation of self-leadership to be able to lead others.
He says "ADD" as a bit of a throwaway in the beginning, but... does anyone know if he got himself a really solid course of treatment?
ADD is *not* attention deficit. No. It is attention *Dichotomy* disorder.
They got the name wrong trying to get kids to focus. But as an ADDer myself, I can focus *really* damn well. It is called Hyperfocus.
So in the highly structured environment where priorities were made *really* clear, you might perform to a Michael Phelps level.
Sniper sounds like the *best* job. A spotter communicates directions and a squad takes care of any possible other priorities. The ADDer gets to do breath meditation and *literally* hyperfocus down the scope of a rifle. Sounds like Heaven.
But in normal life, you can't do that. In normal life you have to actually flexibly manage "How much attention should I give this thing?". ADD makes it harder to manage that *dichotomy* of *self*-leadership.
Good ideas if you have ADD:
- Take ownership: Learn how your brain works.
Look up who invented the electric vacuum cleaner and why.
- Hit the gym and work out *intensely*. Every push-up is giving your dopamine-starved brain some love.
- Build habits to turn clutter into order.
You might find that normal todo systems don't work well enough and you
want some help from someone who can systematize things to an extreme degree.
An autistic friend can perform really well in collaboration here.
- When you have a task, give yourself a crystal-clear idea of what a successful minute looks like.
(Hint: a minute spent on a "failure" where you learned how to do it correctly is a successful minute.)
- Find a job where you get Commander's Intent: clear priorities and why.
- Get a prescription for properly-dosed (probably stimulant) medication.
Bad ideas if you have ADD:
- Do a randomly-dosed amount of cocaine just because it hits the brain kinda like Ritalin[1].
- Becoming a politician and letting a whole town try to demand your attention in 1,000 different directions. That sounds like hell.
[1] www.mdedge.com/psychiatry/article/88937/addiction-medicine/your-patient-using-cocaine-self-medicate-undiagnosed
@ I only got medication last year. I could hyperfocus plenty of times beforehand.
Your experience is yours and I hope even over the internet that you can feel my sympathy for the suck.
My philosophy: You should get medicated only if you take ownership of your health and body.
Kids often live under the roof of the "micro-managing commander" who doesn't trust "subordinates" enough to let them take ownership of *anything*. ADHD kids? Even less trust.
So without ownership, these kids don't get a voice in titrating their own medication.
So kids get stuck on meds with side-effects where an adult would report and switch.
My biggest distraction in life are my....
SKINNY KNEES
DimensionZombie ~ My biggest distractions are beautiful 36C to 38DD young 18 to 34 y/o bikini-clad WOMEN “percolating” my testosterone! lol
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Getaway sticksss
This guy is literally me. I go from subject to subject until I'm satisfied and then move on. It's a struggle because I don't finish anything - except my degree in Engineering. Even at work I'll follow a project for a few weeks and then I'm bored to tears and I move on.
Tyler Laurie get evaluated for ADHD. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need.
Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
There is a rush with starting something new that is different than the satisfaction of seeing something all the way through. There is definitely some documentation out about it. Google it, read and about it and understanding that fact can help a lot.
I’m like this too. I struggle because I highly value my health and I meditate and exercise but I feel like I have to take add meds during the week to keep my life from slowly i threading into chaos.
"You line up these stupid meaningless task, AND YOU CRUSH THEM!" - Jocko 2019
There’s a lot of guys that needed to hear what was said. Thanks brothers.
Thanks for sharing your deep personal feelings and setbacks your going to through. Hope things got better since and you followed through. We all have our battles and they are all very similar.
08:34 THAT laser focus which makes you BURN through things!
10:00 - 10:25 Jocko I like you man
Mr Mitic, Sir, I appreciate your dilemma. If what you want is to get the book done in a night, like Jocko says get it in your head that this is the mission. Visualize and actialize. However I am often not like Jocko, but I still admire his Jockoisms. What I do at 33 with a similar issue to yours. Is to read 10 books over ten weeks and give myself options. Keep those books on hand and choose the one you are ready to read, take the time to contemplate the others as far as youve read them and each time you finish a book add one more to your, immediate library. Some books I read over a year or two, but I contemplate them in the mean time and as I continue to grow, my new experiences and understandings grow with every page of each book I read. Find your style. Keep growing. Stay focused brother. The bottom line is discipline, the means is maliable. Experiment and get out of your comfort zones.
For Jocko consistency is key. For guys with the minds of artists the stages we go through in life throw us curveballs. Respond with a change up, be flexible, dont force change, shake up your routine and dont wait for windows of opportunity to come, work harder to find those windows for change. Think differently than you did yesterday. For guys like us, if you agree, are not a consistent continuation but an anthology of opportunities.
I appreciate your strategy and comment.
Thanks, these guys inspire me everyday to "stay on the path" determination in life is key. Never give up. Accepting failure as who you are is much worse than death. Get some!
After watching again. Jocko really nailed it. Know where your responsibilities lie. Life changes and we have to keep up to keep growing through every life stage as it comes. Dont compare yourself to who you were yesterday.
@@mouthfulladeez Well said. From which book have taken these lines?
Thank Jocko for Jocko!
Jocko brings a great perspective to things. Mainly in the sense of holding yourself accountable the getting over an ex video really gave me some perspective. Much appreciated man.
I wish I could say something to Jody here, but the best thing for me was to try doing 100% discipline as a "test" for a week to see how it effected me. I would not break promises to myself because I was just doing it for the week and was tired of being in my limbo state. Doing it under the premise of being a test was crucial for my mindset. I also realized subconsciously that I felt like I "deserved" happiness for doing some task I needed to. Sometimes that comes, sometimes it doesn't, and I realized how much thinking that way messed with my mindset, and how entitled it was. I was subconsciously looking for a method to enjoy mundane tasks... Which I should never expect to!
Merely sitting down and asking yourself what would be that much better than what you are currently doing is great too. For example, I could do my homework, or hang out with friends. This made me sad originally, since I was missing out on hanging out with my friends. But I then realized how forgetable hanging out with friends was on a daily schedule. You don't remember those things, you remember hanging out with friends on the weekend for a long time because you got your work done earlier in the week instead of goofing off! I am by no means disciplined, but I am definitely getting better!
Something I am havjng trouble with was the critique of self. I.e, I would NEVER feel like I worked out enough, or studied enough. Admittedly trying to work on that now, but that's another detrimental thought process to look out for.
i can relate so much to what Jody is saying.. and what he's going through, the process, etc.. This podcast really resonated with me
balderrising1 Tyler Laurie get evaluated for ADHD. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need.
Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
this is exactly what i needed to hear right now. ive been completely addicted to training for boxing all day and completely neglecting all my school work. its caused tension between me and my family. ive been so focused on "discipline" that i was blinded to the fact that i could achieve more success and exercise real discipline at the same time by just doing the work i need to do
I have problems focusing on the things I need to do, like studying or doing work and my mind always drifts off into another place that is more "more fun" to me. I don't know how to fix it and I want to become better, but I am stuck at this mental block. It may even be my discipline that I have issues with to as well, I do something but I always try to find a way to get out of it and not to finish it. Like Jody Mitic, I used to be very determined on the things I was doing, going 100% on the things I want/needed to do like studying, but I just have seem to lost it and I want it back. I am trying to fix it now and hopefully get a my future straight because I have big dreams that I want to conquer, I just need to fix this block. If anyone has any tips that would be helpful, hopefully Jocko or Jody would see this comment and could add some input as well!
The message in this podcast still holds true and really helped me this morning to put my job in perspective. Thank you Jocko and Team!!!
Immediately applicable information, gents. Thank you!
I think this is a good comparison into how an add/adhd person handles tasks vs normal people. Discipline & will power are a part but mental disorders are a real thing, peoples minds will work different (like a bi polar person as another example) so it is can be more difficult for certain tasks but more beneficial in others like physical activity
Wow , that was awesome. Thanks Jocko , Echo , and Jody !!!!
Reading his book while this came on and it tripped me for a second! Pro Patria!
One of the best lessons of this podcast.
I love these guys!!💪🏽
Helpful, practical and inspirational. Thank you.
Respect to Jody for sharing, that inner savage still inside!
Focus on the job at hand, with a smile, knowing another job and smiles are on the way
Made me think about my current situation - i think i need to set the end goal on any task before i can actually focus on it. Once i can quantify the end, i can reach the end.
Perfect, that's helped me some how by reading your post.
Nisse as someone with ADHD, this is very true. You need to know the end goal and see the signs of success.
"You line them up, and CRUSH THEM!"
Really needed this!
Clarity starts with end in mind.
The end is important in all things
@@m.kultra4101 Ghost Dog
Classical music in my headphones while reading books in kindle @ work drowns out the ignorant chatter, works for me.
Same music so helps me at gym..,nice to hear how it also works for jody....plus leave i gym so happy...after good fitness and good music,,,nice to hear its other people's //go to........ thing too..yea music and also these podcast really help with all my issues going on //// with just life in general.. And the issues that many of us struggle with ..that others just don't understand,,,I find this platform that Jocko does really helps me and bet it really helps others to ....to just understand ...each other..,and shout out to echo...looking jacked as always...,,,,,,#8
I'm an overweight slob that lives in a pig sty, but since the other day I started listening, I now use an ash tray instead of ashing on the floor and putting my butts out on the wall, baby steps👍
Thanks dude appreciate your input, this helped a lot
Good job Echo for pulling this gem back from three years ago. I keep hearing Jody's voice now, "Done! Gone!" with that Canadian accent. Good excerpt. My latest trick is thinking of Susie Green from "Curb Your Enthusiasm." She banned Larry from her house and at one point he is begging to use her bathroom. She tells him "No, you're banned. What, does my word mean nothing? A ban is a ban." That actually helped. Funny show.
Flow state, hyper focus, the way of the warrior.
This spoke to me in a bare honest way. Thank you
I Love what Jody Mitic says he is not there right now vs ten years ago. For me up to my early 30s I was a risk taker. I would make decisions on a whim, I ran every night when I got home for 30 mins. Now I am the total opposite of that, wallowing in procrastination, sigh! but I am still hopeful.
Viv Aquariius Everything Jody said sounded like my ADHD. I’m much better at life since getting treatment. Really. Take ownership of your brain and get the tools you need.
Everything Jocko says about discipline and leadership is a great foundation for high performance. But a strong foundation will crack if the soil hasn’t been prepared. So know thyself and learn how ADHD works and if you have one of the 3 subtypes. Get the tools and build the systems and disciplines to manage it. Your future self will thank you.
Really good convo with jody playing devil's advocate--- very honest is usually the best way to move forward bros
Perfect timing.. I’ve got a major biochemistry exam this week to study for.... I need to recognize which distractions are important (getting the kids to and from school) and which are not (social media). Actually, I’ve had friends message me to make sure I’m still alive!!
Exercise in discipline
Love it
Loved and shared. Just what i needed.
This is a great episode! 👍
Personally, I managed to get rid of most of the bad habits but still have a lot of work to do to build up the good ones. 👍
Gold... Absolutely, gold...
Great advice Jody Mitic.Awesome stuff.
Keys words “what’s the strategic plan now”. What’s important now? It changes
You rock! Hope to see you arround. I would like to interview live with you guys on the topics of extreem ownership and addiction. Maybe we could frame Mcconville as a modle for a topic an talk about addiction and empowerment of women.
Goood Morning!☀️Thank you so much!
I love this!!
Great video and it really helped me a lot. Thanks.
This part was one the best of all podcasts.
5:36 I need this in my life
“Line these up as an exercise in discipline”
But to do this, you need to know the discipline you’re trying to build. For me, the discipline is to keep connecting with the “Why?” that I’m going for.
Sounds like a little overthinking...guilty myself
@@Still-Sitting one man’s overthinking is another man’s
reasonable planning.
*Everything* Jody says sounds like my ADHD (inattentive subtype) and I’d like to give him some tips.
1) Don’t just say “I’m pretty ADD.” Actually dig into it so you can get clarity. Put a Ned Hallowell audiobook on and go for a walk in the woods and think if it really resonates for you.
2) If it does, take ownership. You wouldn’t let your equipment be unmaintained. So, if you have an ADHD brain, thats the equipment you’ve got and you need to take ownership of maintaining it.
3) Set up structure to work for you, even if it looks silly. Maybe hire a personal assistant.
4) Talk to a psychiatrist. Medication is genuinely effective and transformative in managing ADHD. Properly-dosed medication is waaay safer than self-medicating with cocaine.
You’ve got an uphill battle because of the history of addiction, so a psych will probably start with Strattera, which is non-addicting.
But you’ve fought uphill battles before.
The key to this one isn’t willpower, its logistics. Its setting the right systems.
If that means hiring a secretary to hold your supply of dexamfetamine and give you one dose at a time during titration: do that.
5) Don’t look for a lover to be your secretary. No. Two separate roles. You wouldn’t want to date someone who tries to mother you.
Add here and family members got it too. I was exercising, medtating, doing my best to focus but all the time energy getting out no control over mysrlf, after 3 days with no exercising and doing stuff im losing my mind and i say this is fuqing addiction, like i cant survive if i dont do something to calm me down. And later i found Jesus Christ so he fixed my highlevel energy. Not focusing at all but now into almost normal focus with no need of much exercise torturing, controlable overthinking and got clearer mind, no impulses of wanting material things, fasting of everyting that causes addiction with no problem not just food but internet games, women, adrenalin, dopamine. God does miracles ask for him u will see him and he will help u.
Jocko gives good advice
Love this🙏🏼🤙🏼
I find it beneficial to break down a large task into smaller daily tasks. For example, when I translate a book, I assess how difficult it is and from there how many words I can do per day, could be anywhere between 1000 and 4000 words. Then I #getafterit. I know what my daily quota is and it's manageable. Watching the word count meter going up as I type is also motivational in its own weird way. I think, "Great! Only 400 words to go", and so on.
Thank you.
Good one Jocko . Good one. Thank you
The struggle is real. What helps me is the knowledge that nothing in civilian life is difficult, so just get it done.
Old habits die hard. For the chains of habit are too lite to be felt, until they are too strong to be broken.
Came to pass the time, left with a therapy session. Word.
Best podcast.
irony: putting this video on pause because I have to complete my data analytics coursera course :( wah wah #getafterit
GET AFTER IT!
I paused it like 3 times. Home school dadding. Crushin' it. Both of us.
How did it go? I felt like Jody was talking about me with the mental tasks.
Get vulnerable boys
It takes action to “get back” to where you were, it’s not just a push button fix, but doing the same things everyday until it becomes habit
This is awesome
These hittas are 🔥
Jocko be making loving to that mic LMAO. Whispering sweet nothings in it's ear lmao.
Can relate big time.
Jocko the leadership book you came out with if you had an audio version I would pay double
Rocking that Iron Addict Tshirt!!
Guys that are 'rough', don't see themselves as tough. They're just themselves. It's others that perceive them as tough. Which they are.... That's just how they act because that's who they are and how they've been trained.
What he’s going through is something I’ve been trying to do because I used to be mentally stronger before and I what that person back
This helped me
“Echo definitely thinks it is a waste of time!” - ahahaha too funny!!!
question for Jocko. said he has trouble sleeping in other videos. for the days you are trying to sleep at whatever expected time.. and your mind or body disagrees and end up being awake till 3 am.. how do you combat that, do you just say if icant sleep at this time , screw it i wake up anyway? goal would be sleeping by midnight give or take and up by 7 or 8, and some days here and there be im staring at the cieling till 3 or 4 am..
Many times we have to re-negotiate our priorities, so getting stuff done, becomes very inefficient. Eventually things get taken care of, but it all of these interruptions can be very frustrating. I always had better grades when I was playing a sport, and the off season grades were not so good. WTF....just want to take care of business!
I agree; I also think that some people are more "parallel" task masters (as opposed to sequential task masters).
Meaning: they'd have to do a lot of DIFFERENT things to the best of their ability, rather than zap their energy on a single task for prolonged periods of time.
I mean, at least, this is how my ADD tends to work --
It's going to take some exploring, experimenting, and following through to finish (at least once) each experiment to the best of your ability... BUT find a hobby. In fact, find a few. They don't have to be too ambitious. They just have to be skills that challenge you... at least a little bit. It helps if they're something pretty far different from your usual stuff to do... whatever you're studying primarily (like a major in college, or certain certifications for work, etc...)
Sure, in decent weather you can still do sports. It's partly the activity that keeps your mind fresh and "rolling". Sometimes, bad weather days stop that business... so an indoor something that helps you focus on "something completely different" from the daily "grind" stuff.
I have a ton of indoor qualified hobbies. Whenever I'm at that "repetitive mundane work" grind, I can let my mind break a little to what else I need to think about for a hobby's next project, or the current thing I'm doing as a hobby... like leather-craft.
Currently, I'm mostly a carpenter/woodworker. The difference (around here) being a Carpenter frames houses and "roughs in" structures... even "Finishing" the internal trims and making everything "marry up" right... A Woodworker is the guy who builds fine furniture, redresses old furniture, and does those clever looking refinements to otherwise drab furnishings people seem to love to decorate their houses with... It's nice work, if you like it... BUT it's a LOT of repetitive stuff for small things.
SO I think about leather... Leather (oddly) is even the roots of how I got into making and repairing, altering clothes, and creating costumes. When I'm not actively DOING this hobby, I'm letting images float through my head that might help with how next I'm going to approach a project in it. I'm thinking about the next design to carve into a belt or applique... or I'm contemplating an easier way to tool and stitch together the inside of a press-formed pouch or purse... That's a bit of a "JORB"... (lolz)
Okay, not to get too far into the tangent of leather. Your newfound hand-strength will be nice, though. (lolz) BUT that's the kind of hobby I'm talking about. JUST something completely different that you can get into... and maybe (if it's a craft) you can get something real and tangible out of it.
...AND as a bonus, you can have a new thing constantly rumbling in the back of your mind to clear the "monkey chatter" of distractions away and help you bounce back to what you're doing, where you're at... and even what's important now. ;o)
Jody just like competing or getting “stage ready” with building your body. If you want to become 💯 focused again you have to build that “muscle” up as well. Good Luck 🍀 and get after it.
"Anti-addictive"
His shirt: "Iron Addicts Gym"
Jocko should write a book about personal productivity.
MegaWorldadventure .....but he did though. Discipline Equals Freedom by Jocko Willink
Headphones! Yup!!
Never met this AD+ Champion. But I know that is a basic fact. Champion. Someday... Oh baby. That jargon is warming my caucles lol. Love you Jody. Yeah-yeah you too Jocko. Lol. Hopeful doesn't even scratch the definitional surface. Thank you. Trauner too. Personal Heroes+.
Over,