Additionally, as seen on another comment, the card's effect directly references the paid cost, since there were no cards banished as there was no cost, it would excavate no cards, and since a card can't resolve doing nothing, it can't be activated.
You cannot chain serial spell to prosperity because it would look at the top 0 cards (0 being the number of cards banished from your ED to activate Serial Spell), add one of them to your hand (which is impossible since we seeing none of them) and put the rest on the bottom. (Also impossible). Since it is clear at the point where serial spell could be activated that not every mandatory part of the effect is able to be executed, you are not allowed to activate the card at all.
Transaction Rollback will do the same thing for Trap decks. Being able to resolve something from the grave, without paying for the cost will be insane.
Mayakashi has a turn skipper that you can theorically use with Beatrice. The problem is that the judge or the coding in the plataform you're using might disagree
@@kuyagoldlink7563Found the Dark World/Tear player. Fableds don't care unless it's by game mechanic i.e. hand size. If it is discarded, it will activate. They do not need to be discarded "by card effect" to activate. They will activate off of costs on a new chain, so you can even activate them for discarding for cost off of counter traps like divine wrath. Refer to Fabled Cerburrel/Ganashia specifically.
@@kuyagoldlink7563 none of the fabled monsters need to be discarded as an effect to trigger (dark worlds do) besides peggulsus. The fabled monsters also have mandatory effects so they don’t miss timing.
To add to the Layrinthian maze of why you can't chain Serial Spell to Prosperity it's that banishing 3 or 6 from extra is part of the _activation requirement_ which serial spell cannot fufill by it's own procedures when copying. Serial spell can fufill most "costs" for activating cards (such as targeting for monster reborn) and resolve them, but it cannot meet activation requirements (such as the banish for prosp) and if said activation requirements are necessary for the card to resolve (such as in the case of Prosperity) it cannot chain to it.
Cannot Extrav because the number of excavate must be the same as the number you banish. So, no banish, no excavate. But, it should work if you excavate with Duality.
You cannot chain Serial Spell to Pot of P because it will resolve without effect. Similar to Dark Hole on empty board. Which is not allowed. Why not allowed? Well, pot of p allows excavation equal to cost paid. Since you paid 0 due to cost bypass, you suppose to excavate 0 and place 0 on the bottom. Which literally doing nothing, and thus not legal activation.
did you know Bait Doll (for some reason) can also circumvent HOPT? If you use it on your own (live) Big Welcome, you can use Big Welcome's grave effect in the same turn. But also all your other Labrynth triggers miss timing 💀
@bostH0g: If you wait an think for a minutes they is nothing being circumvent in the situation you described, since you force the activation when you just set it this turn and trap card cannot be activated the turn they are set except if an effect says they can. so you never used that effect, so you can used the graveyard effect that same turn. Also keep in mind missing the timing only applied to trigger effect that are When and also optional. In the situation above no miss the timing happen, forceing the activation of a trap card that cannot be activated since it was set this turn, his not considered activating a trap card so that is why labrynth does not trigger.
Konami not so sure about this ruling. So they skipped adding Bait Doll to the Master Duel. Maybe Bait Doll copies the effect of Big Welcome? Maybe the Lab monster was summoned by Spell effect (the bait doll)? Maybe the dev lazy? We shall never know
I don't get why "you can only use witchcrafter haine once per turn" and If I have 2 of them in the field I can use both to pop things (I don't know If was a bug in Edo pro, project ignis. And I didn have witchcrafter in Master Duel)
there's so much I could write but i'm gonna have to keep it simple. witchcrafter haine is hard once per turn not soft the easiest way to tell is if a card uses the words "you can only" usually followed by the words "use each effect" or "use this cards effect" or "activate" and soft once per turn usually start at the beginning of the effect like lonefire blossom "Once per turn, tribute a plant, special a plant from deck"
If you can't check cost from prosperity, you can't know whether you have to excavate 3 or 6
Kind of misleading, but not totally false, declaring whether you want to banish 3 or 6 is a requirement for the card's activation, not "cost"
Additionally, as seen on another comment, the card's effect directly references the paid cost, since there were no cards banished as there was no cost, it would excavate no cards, and since a card can't resolve doing nothing, it can't be activated.
its because prospy locks you out of drawing, the serial spell would be an illegal activation
@@rubixium I had thought so too, but prosperity's effect adds, not draws, therefore no conflict there
@@GuilhermeDiGiorgiyou can’t activate extravagance and prosp in one turn though even though both lock you out of drawing
You cannot chain serial spell to prosperity because it would look at the top 0 cards (0 being the number of cards banished from your ED to activate Serial Spell), add one of them to your hand (which is impossible since we seeing none of them) and put the rest on the bottom. (Also impossible).
Since it is clear at the point where serial spell could be activated that not every mandatory part of the effect is able to be executed, you are not allowed to activate the card at all.
But serial spell ignores cost, and only copies the effect of prosperity, and as prosperity banished 3 or 6 shouldnt you be able to activate 3 of 6
@@literallygrass1328 with prospy you excavate equal to the banished cards so if serial spell banishes 0 you excavate 0 cards
Transaction Rollback will do the same thing for Trap decks. Being able to resolve something from the grave, without paying for the cost will be insane.
Mayakashi has a turn skipper that you can theorically use with Beatrice. The problem is that the judge or the coding in the plataform you're using might disagree
*Elemental Burst*
As a Fabled player, I'm glad to find another "Discard your hand" card that isn't Final Destiny. Thank you sir.
It discards for cost so it won't proc fabled effects.
@@kuyagoldlink7563Found the Dark World/Tear player. Fableds don't care unless it's by game mechanic i.e. hand size. If it is discarded, it will activate. They do not need to be discarded "by card effect" to activate. They will activate off of costs on a new chain, so you can even activate them for discarding for cost off of counter traps like divine wrath. Refer to Fabled Cerburrel/Ganashia specifically.
@@kuyagoldlink7563if I’m not mistaken fables activate when discarded by anything
@@kuyagoldlink7563 fabled works with discards
@@kuyagoldlink7563 none of the fabled monsters need to be discarded as an effect to trigger (dark worlds do) besides peggulsus. The fabled monsters also have mandatory effects so they don’t miss timing.
In case anyone was wondering, Labrynth Barrage is the trap equivalent of Serial spell.
Oh WOW
Also rollback now!
@@That_Daily_noko figuring out how to set up the Level 10 Trap Monster with it and Paleozoic...
Rollback Barrage...
PURE INSANITY
To add to the Layrinthian maze of why you can't chain Serial Spell to Prosperity it's that banishing 3 or 6 from extra is part of the _activation requirement_ which serial spell cannot fufill by it's own procedures when copying.
Serial spell can fufill most "costs" for activating cards (such as targeting for monster reborn) and resolve them, but it cannot meet activation requirements (such as the banish for prosp) and if said activation requirements are necessary for the card to resolve (such as in the case of Prosperity) it cannot chain to it.
Cannot Extrav because the number of excavate must be the same as the number you banish. So, no banish, no excavate. But, it should work if you excavate with Duality.
This Video, is another Proof that Duel Academy is really Important
Dont worry when transaction rollback comes to MD everyone will learn what is cost and what is ''activation requirement''
I remember trying to make it work back in the DM days with things like Change of Heart and Dark Core. Fun times.
Love these kind of wacky cards, thanks man for bringing these to light
Prosperity cant be used with serial if you cant be aware of how mutch you excivate its weird
Other maybe niche targets are Kastiratheosis, the Triple tactics cards, shadoll fusion, and this creepy little punk?
The cost thing i learned with mst tv teaching you can rollback copy imperm and still target
clear new world is another card you can spend weeks trying to test potential combos too, its like downbeat but way better
Adding Serial Spell and Mystical Refpanel into Duel Links would make the meta go weird.
Very informative
Thanks for your hard works, sir
You cannot chain Serial Spell to Pot of P because it will resolve without effect. Similar to Dark Hole on empty board. Which is not allowed.
Why not allowed? Well, pot of p allows excavation equal to cost paid. Since you paid 0 due to cost bypass, you suppose to excavate 0 and place 0 on the bottom. Which literally doing nothing, and thus not legal activation.
2:18 ... *EXODIUS*
I’m very surprised this hasn’t been on a LVK sub-replay yet
Wanna know how to stop branded... set non-fusion area.
Pot of pros uses cost for the effect as many people explained. Not cost no effect.
you should've tried chaining Serial Spell to Pot of Desires, banishing 20 to draw 4
No you actually only banish 10
did you know Bait Doll (for some reason) can also circumvent HOPT?
If you use it on your own (live) Big Welcome, you can use Big Welcome's grave effect in the same turn.
But also all your other Labrynth triggers miss timing 💀
@bostH0g: If you wait an think for a minutes they is nothing being circumvent in the situation you described, since you force the activation when you just set it this turn and trap card cannot be activated the turn they are set except if an effect says they can. so you never used that effect, so you can used the graveyard effect that same turn. Also keep in mind missing the timing only applied to trigger effect that are When and also optional. In the situation above no miss the timing happen, forceing the activation of a trap card that cannot be activated since it was set this turn, his not considered activating a trap card so that is why labrynth does not trigger.
Would rather foolish burial good the trap instead of destroying own lol
Konami not so sure about this ruling. So they skipped adding Bait Doll to the Master Duel.
Maybe Bait Doll copies the effect of Big Welcome? Maybe the Lab monster was summoned by Spell effect (the bait doll)? Maybe the dev lazy?
We shall never know
This is just transaction rollback rulings before transaction rollback was released
Nice
I don't get why "you can only use witchcrafter haine once per turn" and If I have 2 of them in the field I can use both to pop things
(I don't know If was a bug in Edo pro, project ignis.
And I didn have witchcrafter in Master Duel)
there's so much I could write but i'm gonna have to keep it simple.
witchcrafter haine is hard once per turn not soft
the easiest way to tell is if a card uses the words "you can only"
usually followed by the words "use each effect" or "use this cards effect" or "activate"
and soft once per turn usually start at the beginning of the effect like lonefire blossom
"Once per turn, tribute a plant, special a plant from deck"
@@BlackRose-rp7kv some of the Brazilian translated witchcrafter card have wrong words and sentences.
Must be It.
Engaged is not a once per turn and is been released since 2018
Can this card break Infernity somehow ? Anyway, this + Card Destruction is another level of mill.
It discards for cost though
Your hand would be empty so neither of your card destruction effects would do anything
@@mainaime2566 The idea is to mill the opponent.
@@dudono1744 doing this would get you cooked by so many decks though
What was the music in the video?
LETS GO BRANDED