This ruined me, don't repeat my mistake.
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- In this video, I talk about having goals for your passion projects, and how to have goals that don't make you want to give up. I talk about how to form goals that are guaranteed to pull through.
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I once did a short film, that took 5 years to finish. It was never going to be something that would spawn a career (I dreamed, but not seriously). However, I still look back on it with pride, that I made a finished thing, and it will always exist. I think going into projects with the idea that you will just create 'something', and that your skills will grow as you create, is a good place to start.
Thank you! This comment really makes me think of my future. As a beginner animator I tend to think of crazy ideas but I really don’t want to spend 5 years to finish a project. I like reading about others experience. I’m glad at least you can look back at it and be happy. I would be interested in seeing your short film if that’s possible.
Where your short film? I’m curious
@@tamuanimations Thanks, it isn't impressive (a product of the times), but if you are curious, it is on my CZcams Channel. It was really two student films, one short, and one long, called "The Wet Mask".
I agree. I love having a list of projects that I do on the side while earning money and for every personal project I finished, its another permanent piece of my gallery thats mine forever.
That's exactly what I am doing!
I feel like its so easy to fall into a bad mindset and have it destory your passion for art. Heard people were crushed by portfolio reviews recently. Being told you should just quit is the worst and woefully unhelpful, some people are asses. Point is everyone and their manager is gonna tell you to give up so don't let your inner voice mimic theirs. The only one who can keep you going is you.
I am always so scared, being a Highschool Student I know I have a lot of room for improvement but at the same time I’m anxious about how my portfolio will turn out to be. Thank you your comment really helps me remember that at the end of the day you are the one who should appriciate your art more then anyone
Honestly some people should "quit." What I mean is quit trying to make it a career and instead keep it as a hobby. Having a decent job with art as a hobby is better than being a perpetual starving artist. Eventually you want to grow up, have a family, and have a life. And just have good mental health.
And honestly there's so many free and affordable resources online that it doesn't make sense to go into debt just to become an artist.
@@AhmadPhilips you could also say this about any entrepreneur, most people don’t have the strength to fail and try again. People do fail at their first business not to be unrealistic. Financially it can definitely break someone so I understand what you mean but I think it breaks you mentally first if it’s meant to be a hobby. If you would never feel comfortable working irregularly or with differences from month to month it makes sense not to do it as a job because even in times of stability you won’t be happy. But fearing the unknown is normal especially with the future so just because you feel unsure at times doesn’t mean you are 100% wrong.
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@@AhmadPhilips Drawabox is a good free one, but yeah, a degree makes the hiring process a bit easier, ultimately it depends on what you want to do
I did a fully animated 9 minute cartoon. It took me 8 months to finish. The goal was to get a job from it. It didn't happen and I was pretty depressed about it, but it led to a comic series and now a published graphic novel. Over the years I changed my mindset, much like what's stated in the video.
Honestly the first thing I realized is rather than spend nearly a year making an animated short I would rather spend that same time and have a published comic or graphic novel that I can sell.
EDIT: The graphic novel is called "Hani and Huda" it's a comic for like 7 to 10 year olds, so I doubt it's anything anyone here would be interested in. Just letting y'all know since so many asked.
You can't just leave me hanging, what's the title of the comic?!
whats the name of the cartoon? whats the novel about?
Yo pls post the animated short if possible and pls tell the name of the comic
haha well, I spent some time making a gaming short cause I wanted to check out the shorts but I have pretty bad PC which im changing and the software freezed a lot and I spent a lot of time making it and barely anyone watched it xD but well, IT wasnt the best quality but I thought at least 300 would watch it for the memes xD and not 50, so I fck shorts and im upgrading my pc and the I had lately very funny actions in my fav game but I didnt record the most important part -,- but I plan to post them anyway, I found another nice AI dialoque so I plan to simply make a voiced narration of what happened during that time and do some meme-ish images instead and the rest of the video will be normal xF if i dont become a youtuber I'll have to do an onlyfans account to get some.bonus cash if its still a thing in future
If you don't mind us asking, what's the name of the graphic novel? :D
Be egoistic - do projects for yourself, to use your skills, to grow your skills, to communicate with others, to show to the world that you exist, to make yourself feel good. If you can't look at a project you did with pride, then there is a problem.
The mistake of making things such as animation with the expectation of getting the opportunities I so dearly wanted really hit me. One of the big reasons I spent so much time doing animation in my free time was to get into a good animation school. And when I didn't make the cut, I was heartbroken. I felt like I wasted all that time, and I completely lost direction. The hardest thing for me to learn was to make things more so for myself and enjoy the progress I was making as an artist.
Tldr; I completely agree with everything said in the video
Yeah I felt foolish expecting that anyone would care about the short film I made and spent a year trying to polish. I probably edited 12 distinct versions of it and kept filming new parts to "fix" it. In that time I spent, I could've made 12 totally unique projects that would've helped me improve much quicker. That's what I try to do now, and it's crazy how much more rewarding and fun it is
Jesus loves you and died and rose again for your sins. There's always a reason to keep going. Romans 8:35-39
I make games, personally I get a huge sense of personal creative satisfaction from making the things I thought of in my head and seeing them play out *exactly* how I dreamt it up on screen, interacting with the thing I made and having it work just right, its an incredible experience, as is seeing someone else play your game and have a blast too, its an almost drug like high. I finally finished a level I'd been working on for months and I got a tear in my eye, the overwhelming feeling of seeing a dream realized is enough of a goal to keep me going, anything I get on top of that is lovely but I'm not exactly looking for anything else in return, creative fulfillment is something we all want (I presume)
I find a similar passion for the process, except instead of seeing things play out exactly as I pictured in my head, I usually have a very rough idea of a story I want to express and the challenge and excitement during the process is when I realize my ideas won't work and I have to find some solution. Maybe it's just different for video games compared to making videos but I don't think I ever have a full idea, it's usually found somewhere along the way
What kind of program(s) do you use to program games?
From a young age I loved art, but when the perfectionism my father gave me led to such crippling anxiety that I tore up art tests rather than leave a potential mistake, I never wanted to try it again. But now so many years later I'm trying to take it up again. I can feel the anxiety of wanting to erase anything I make as I'm making it, but the more I ignore it and keep going the more the anxiety lessens and the more I find myself enjoying it. Pressure can ruin so many things, if you find it's destroying something you love, do whatever you have to do to stop it ruining your passion. Create for the love of it, and for your own joy. Even if you think you're creating garbage... Its YOUR garbage, and you enjoyed making it.
This is oddly convenient because I'm working on my own short film and I'm also really bad at keeping my motivations up for my intended goal
Short film in 3D or 2D?
I know same. Hey depending on when you expect to finish it and how long you’ve been working on it you could consider joining the animator guild animation short film contest! I’m working on my short film to submit it there!
@@tamuanimations can i join on working on it with you?, Only if it's 3D tho, i guess I can never finish my own short film 😂
@@jaredcrown5812 my short film isn’t 3D but if you sign up then you can definitely submit a 3D animated short film. I’m also already working on mine and I’m not sure I can help. I’m not the best at 3D animation either although I might make a video on a 3D model Im doing for school. But as long as you put your mind to it and create a plan and do your best I believe you can finish one! I made a video on how I failed to make a short film before idk if it helps or not but it might be able to give you a perspective from what I’ve learn when I failed and what I’m doing different this time
@@jaredcrown5812 Hey man, sorry for the late reply. My animation will be in 2d, but good luck on your own short film too!
I always wanted to do animated stuffs, especially animated music videos, ever since I was young, and even went to study animation. It's only now that I just started and wanted to start small and experiment so that I can build a fanbase from there and building more skills so that I can be more confident in making much more ambitious projects. For my first music video, I cut it in half, and both parts took me around 2 months of hard works to finish combined.
I pushed myself to finish my first animation for a contest. Didn't even get noticed, but now I realized I have to just MAKE things because I want to, not for other people's approval.
I relate to this a lot. Currently trying to break the habit of having very high expectations that wouldn't match with my skillset/knowledge. Maybe it's the pressure of trying to feel in control of something, but first priority with any art should be to make something that can help you learn or just have fun. Definitely gonna look at your spreadsheet with my current/future projects!
As someone who has struggled even starting projects wether it be game design, editing or animation this was really helpful.
It's all about balancing intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. Are you doing it because you enjoy it and you actually want to do it, or are you doing it because you think you'll get something out of it? It's good when you have both, but it's also good to understand that what you "get out of it" is something that changes from day to day, and you can never really rely on those external rewards, especially those as uncertain as "this will get me a job," or "this will make me popular." Also, shoutout again to Dr. K for making everyone's lives better
God I can't get over how adorable your intro is
That's why the goal for my projects are a job portfolio AND to have fun with it and learn new stuff. Fame, Money or anything else will come naturally if you do something you love and had fun with.
This channel has been such a comfort for me, it’s nice to have a teacher who feels like they genuinely want to help people learn and grow as individuals, not just succeed in their fields. Makes me feel less alone. Thank you 💕
This video really helps. I’ve failed so many times to do an animation short film and it use to be difficult to keep myself motivated but this time it’s different the video really gives me hopes to motivate myself! Thank you
Well I must say, you released this in a shockingly timely manner as far as I'm concerned. I happen to have a short film to be releasing for the film festival circuit in a couple weeks and it's the most ambitious project of my career. I've never invested more time, skill and money into anything before. And yeah, I have high hopes for it and I hope it gets the recognition I feel it deserves, but honestly? Even if nobody sees it and nobody celebrates it, I'm just glad it exists. I'm glad it's not one of many story ideas that will die with me.
You talk in this video about not getting too caught up in expectations for how you want your career to go and to open up to opportunities you may not have considered before, and this philosophy has actually helped me make this film. A long time ago I didn't get on a show I really wanted to work on and it hurt because it made me feel like I wasn't good enough, and instead I went on a long path of making due with other opportunities like animating in flash, doing shadow work and retakes and builds. But the film I'm working on now involves character rigging and a lot of comp work I learned along the way. I now realize that if I didn't go on that path, I would never have acquired the skills necessary to make this film.
the fact that ANY film exists at all is a miracle, because making one is HARD. you have to be so cinematically literate and you have to work well on a big team and you have to be so good at selling your concept just to get anywhere, and even after all that you also have to be insanely lucky to get the opportunity. So I guess be thankful that you even got to make something, because so many in the world don't even get THAT far.
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I go with Sanderson's tip when he talks about Magic System in my approach, he says instead of going wider with your magic go deeper with your magic. I have had this as my approach with all my personal projects, and it bares fruit, but obviously life doesn't give the stability or time to crack on like that, so I am no longer in a hurry for 'breaking in' with my big short. I do think if I focused instead of a short animation film that was bigger than 2 minutes, a lot bigger - and just did many 30 second ones that could even be woven into a bigger one probably be a better approach, but you can't reverse time, and it is tricky to make something that breaks in instantly, a lot of successful creatives when you look at the career you see that unless lucky and get the right person that backs them/you and opportunity many of them had a long period of doing and completing things then finally get the shot.
Thanks for all the advice - really. Over the past 4 years of snowballing animation passion projects whilst studying non-art subjects and trying to push it to the next level but repeatedly not achieve what i wanted to - because i had set the dream too high - had me growing less ambitious and tired. Being able to recognise that failure isn't defined by the fixation of a single goal, but rather to be able to see the benefit and growth in a spectrum of goals, is something I definitely needed.
"The real win is the animations we made on the way"
I have had this concept on my mind for a while, but it is good to see it layed out visually (by you), as it helps me put the big picture into perspective. Lately, I haven't had many major goals for my projects beyond just having a good time and trying something new. Part of my own mental well being has been learning to accept that about myself, because I feel like modern society encourages us to have lofty pie in the sky goals, and shuns people as "lazy" for doing things out of amusement and self indulgence, even if it isn't hurting anybody. So in the past I felt like I needed to work harder to meet lofty goals because my work was meaningless if I did not, even though that it entirely the opposite of how my creative process works! It's like a paradox that makes the creative individual shoot themself in the foot. It really isn't worth it. I LOVE creating things, and if a negative mindset is taking that away from me, it isn't worth it! I have one thing that really makes me feel happy in life, then why trade it away for any delusion or nonsense ideological construction meant to make me feel bad? That's the real waste.
I find that the only thing that works for me to reach any long-term goal is to remind myself: what idea am I studying right now? Am I studying it effectively?
It does not matter if the idea is "good". The idea can be proven good or proven bad, but the proving is done by the studying and honestly answering the question. When we hide from that part of ourselves, our goals turn towards credit-seeking behavior and "presenting" success; or alternately, we go in with the goal of seeking credit and looking for easy wins; in both cases, it leads towards adding more scope than necessary: "If I add more, it'll be better" is the death of so many creative projects. Attacking the idea itself speeds everything up. Whether it succeeds or fails, you can document it like a piece of research: here is the idea, here is what I learned when I tried it. That can be incredibly valuable information to most lines of work.
Hm, good concept!
This is some good advice as someone who is kinda front loaded with comic and Art commissions at the moment i should take this into account. Additionally when I did put my work out there someone from the Community actually Private messaged me and mentioned that my art style gave them vibes of the Early 2000 Newgrounds. That raised my spirit as it is where i get some of my inspiration from that, Anime as well as some childhood cartoons I grew up with in the 90s
Thank you for this video it actually changed my life and I hope everyone gets their desired goals
i have really grown to appreciate this channel over time. really cool work you do mate. not just the art, but the real thoughts and pains you went trough, sharying it.
Very thought-provoking, thanks for taking the time make all the examples of goals
Thanks much for sharing the ups and downs that you've learned during your career. It's nice to know that other people have had to work through the same types of mental roadblocks 😊
Fantastic video, thanks so much for sharing! As someone beginning a new short film project, these are all good points to keep in mind.
Thanks CZcams for bringing this wonderful video to my attention! Much needed perspective and very well spoken. I will watch it again and take notes this time
I love this video because these advices work for any kind of passion project, not only art.
love your work, keep evolving, thank you for making the world revolve ✨❤💫
its amazing that you went through all of this and come out the otherside... i didnt quite make it that far
I'm currently in the process of working on a goal and I can't express enough how much I needed to hear these informations! Thanks a lot for sharing your experience!
This is honestly excellent advice, and it feels like what I’ve needed to help me work on more CZcams videos.
This is a great video and really put some things in perspective for me, I have been trying to get into game dev and released my first game and was starting to head in the negative circle you explained, awesome video!!
Your timing is impeccable... I really needed to hear this.
As I grow as an artist, this is exactly what I needed as I’m trying to foster longevity in my career and passion
I’m truly thankful for your honesty
Thank you for this. I feel like I’ve been making a lot of these mistakes in goals. Thanks for helping me reframe my perspective.
It really does happen, sometimes we get a bit too ambitious he has helped me so much with his videos I improve just by listening to him
Just like in some games where even if you lose, you still gain some experience!
I really appreciate this advice so much. Even if all I did before was work work work and not think anymore to run away from how disappointed I was with my work, the other things you've outlined did somehow happen. I like that you make this clear really for anyone's journey
Real eye-opener! While watching this I realize that a lot of my goals involve things that are out of my control, and the results are exactly as you described. What’s subversive is that I’ve convinced myself I’m aiming for goal #1 when I’m actually mixing it with goals like #6 and the last three. Such goals are attractive. Maybe if I keep myself from looking past #1 I can actually finish things, we’ll see. Thanks Toniko!
This feels really healthy. Thanks for sharing. I planned to make a quick monthly satirical animation. It’s been a year and a half and I’ve not finished the first one yet. I’ve been learning so much and it’s lots of fun and my goals have changed but I’ve still been carrying this idea that it’ll be a runaway success and that feels unhealthy and unrealistic. It’s more likely If ever my work got popular like that it would happen randomly in the future after making more work. And it feels healthier to focus on the joy of making it and the satisfaction of that and let any success be a bonus if it comes. That’s for me at least.
Hey, by the looks of it you make very impressive and cute art, I love watching stuff like that.
Even if you feel downed by all of these different factors within animation and such, your work still impresses people without this sparkle that makes you an artist, in reality I wish I was lucky enough to create things, from doodles and scraps to proper projects.
Good luck in the future, you've come a long way.
This is such a useful video, I gave up on visual art after I dropped out of art school and decided to take up writing (I mainly ghostwrite) and working as a psychologist instead. All of the advice you laid out is applicable to any art form. You're a gem Toniko.
This hit so close to home man. This started happening to me ever since my first year in college 🥺🥺
first time seeing this channel and the art style is absolutely adorable.
Thank you soooo much making this video.
As a small youtuber, it's really frustrating to see low watching rate.
I'll try adjusting my mind setting up new goals :)
Thank you so much for this video Toni!
5:48 hahaha I'm just glad others feel the same too. Been working on a project for around a year and I've basically don't feel the passion to finish it as I did when I started. However, I am going to finish eventually it and use it as a learning curve.
I feel happy because of this video and now motivated!
Thank you!
Brilliant. I can relate being a screenwriter. Heaps of rejections. But I learned something new every rejection. Became a better storyteller. I also learned not to put my eggs into one basket. So now I usually have two products on the go. I no longer call them projects. I call them PRODUCTS. I am creating a brand. What is the DNA of my brand? I am also a cartoonist. So now I am taking my screenplays and turning them into Webtoons. Self publishing like my role model, Beatrix Potter who took so many rejections she had to self publish. She is still in print 120 years later.
It sounds interesting!! I’ve always been wanting to make a webtoon but also doing my animation it’s always hard to find a balance I love creating stories
@@tamuanimations I relate to what you're saying. I chose Webtoons as it gives me immediate access to a potential global audience. Also no gatekeeper producers to get through. It's a beginning.
@@two-moonz2953 I agree that for sharing better build stories it’s a great idea to do a webtoon! But I think as for me with the small stories good for a shortfilm I’ll probably keep posting them on CZcams well ones I finally do my first one
@@tamuanimations Good Luck! I'll look out for your work!
@@two-moonz2953 thank you! Honestly same, I am kind off interested by your story, you should totally let me know where I can read it
I made an adfilm for mental health awareness in college and that took me 2 weeks nonstop + burning the midnight oil...
Learned a lot and well yeah youtube short tutorials helps.
Take it easy and just take it easy 🤗
This is very relatable. I follow a similar approach.
This is really helpful actually, I am on my start in this, and the points here direct me better - I certainly need to know where my type of weird animations fit.
I am terrible with communication and community, and that's exactly what I must work on, I have to connect.
So far, my goals are extremely humble, because I know I am not a good animator, have no connections and am pretty much inapt in everything 😅
So, from video to video, I get even more motivated, because I manage to meet my small expectations, and they slowly increase according to performance on the field.
Personally ive felt like ive wasted time *not* working on personal projects. Mostly because in recent times I havnt had any other responsibilities... I know im fortunate to *be able to* do this, but... I feel like a leech since I dont have a job and really should at this point. But it does give me more free time, I just feel guilty for not using it for really much of anything productive.
3:50 alright it'll go on my portfolio, thats a 100% certainty. Ill have learned unity (im into game development, thats what my passion is and im learning unity) and well. yeah thats about it.
5:45 that's one I think I need to to more. All too often I just buy things just because I have the money, but I should probably put those behind me finishing a personal project so that I dont feel guilty about spending money, I feel like I have actually done something and then whatever I get can be a reminder of that accomplishment... Which I like sentimental value on items, thats one of the main reasons I get certain things.
I relate with that first bit because last year I definitely was creating still, but I would feel guilty about not accomplishing anything out of it, because I didn't have a job and I was "wasting my time" and "leeching", or that's how I felt. Even though money wasn't an immediate concern I figured I should at least have a place in society. So I got a job, just a random low wage job at a deli. I work as much as I am required to, but not more than I can. I don't have aspirations to be manager or anything. I just do it to have something to do and get out of the house.
And when I come home, I work on my projects. At the moment the arrangement is working fine. I can't say I am any less or more productive with my personal projects, since having less free time ironically makes me want to create even more during my free time. However it saps me of the energy to do anything unnecessary or that I don't enjoy for the sake of enjoying it.
So far, the arrangement works.
okay, besides all this being good advice, I get a laugh out of how quick you say bye in your videos. it's strangely fun haha
but yeah, I think I've been having a hard time setting up goals/starting a project that I'd love to work on for... quite some time now bc I've been looking too outward for validation and gotta learn to enjoy my works for the sake of them existing. the goal of a bigger audience should come later
Thanks man, this will help me in the future
The friendship ended with Goals, and now Achievements are my best Friends!
I do also use projects at the moment to break my skill, like something never done before, and it does work in growing me but can lead to messy projects that maybe too rough to get through into a studio but I myself have improved. When we are younger we put eggs all into one short, think we can get that one hit which breaks us through the glass and land us into the world, an announcement, when in reality that usually only happens from luck and know the right person that also connect with an opportunity. What frequently happens is many started and completed projects over a timespan and then finally something opens up, you see some creatives or authors and ten years of just active in the sector, failure after failure but eventually brings about a reputation like scriptwriters that never get credit but circulation in a sector that eventually something comes along, and they get it. It is less put forward that a lot of luck is needed over capabilities but also just making things will eventually build a reputation that opens an opportunity instead of one big egg that gets you all you want.
This video was an eye opener, not only into common pitfalls that can ruin your productivity and desire to grow, but helped me figure out why I feel the way I do about the content I make. This video is going to be one share with folks any time I see this mentality, you did an amazing job to really break it down the thought process.
This really helped me realize what I was doing right and wrong and how I can grow. And I'm excited to share it with friends, and family alike to give people the desires to keep on trying their own projects :)
Thank you for making this, it was an amazing video to watch, and it really made me happy to see that I am truly in control of some of the factors that let me continue to express things, as well as show me that I can dive into new opportunities and mediums. This made my week. You certainly have earned yourself another follower 💜
Tldr; This video is what every budding artist or creator **needs** to hear. Don't give up or crush your own dreams
oh man, am I glad I realized this before my 30's! I was so unhappy! now I am just doing it and wishing for the best
Reminds me if someone this good at what they do, with a big following, still struggles to get a job they want and reach their dreams... the outlook for me to do anything other than die in obscurity is not looking great...
Thank you Toniko! This is very helpful for me 🙂Thanks👍
This showed up at the perfect time for me thank you :)
Currently my end goals by default are quite rough on big projects to allow for further development and for essential compromises to be made! However that resulted in the problem of some things taking longer due to a lack of prior planning which is something I’m currently developing a long term solution for! :)
this video would safe me from some years of suffering, thank you, i cant tell with words how to express my gratitute right know
Thanks for putting yourself out here this wae.. it's special and helpfull
Glad to know I'm not the only artist whose handwriting is like that.
I was surprised by the healthygamergg name drop lol. Healthygamergg is amazing, and yeah, a lot of that mental health stuff applies here. As someone who wants to work on relatively small projects but is terribly unmotivated, I found it refreshing how you're so keen on emphasizing a growth mindset. Appreciating new milestones and accomplishments has done so much for me because it's all too easy for me to dismiss it as not good enough. And, it's interesting to hear such a similar sounding perspective from someone so productive and dedicated to their craft.
to get the jobs that you wanted you need to be super talented and strive for nepotism, it is as much about having a good personality as it is having a lot of talent.
I'd like to offer a slightly different take. No matter what I do (personal project or studio project), I try to stay connected to that 10 year old version of myself that liked to sit and draw doodles in front of the Saturday morning cartoons. I try to remember why I got into this field in the first place. I try to remember the joy of just creating. That joy of creating HAS to be the reward. In other words, it's the act of creating that should be what keeps us going, not the final product. Artists are born. They have no choice but to make things their whole lives. Unfortunately at times we get side tracked when we are searching for recognition- that will inevitably lead to some disappointment no matter what you do.
Your whole "things I expect will happen when I finish" makes me think of my days in college. I stupidly assumed that so long as I graduated with a good GPA, I'd be able to find work easily enough (and the college would help me find work as well). That was not at all what happened. I basically was a contractor for 2 years doing really simple/tedious work and barely making any money (and no job benefits either). Meanwhile, other people I went to college with who didn't care so much about maintaining a good GPA wound up getting full time work at the same company I was a contractor at. That combined with me not being able to get hired full time at all the places I kept applying at made those 2 years some of the most depressing of my life. I was able to eventually get full time work, but really only because someone I went to college with recommended me for the position. And while my team leader at work has assured me that I've very much earned my position, I still have this persistent thought in the back of my head that I'm not qualified for this job I'm in.
Anyway, best of luck with your future endeavors.
art-wise, I don't want to be popular but I do want to be popular enough to live off commissions and patreon money... that's the ideal at least but I can imagine it's not all flowers and meadows once I get there.
In middle school (around 2016) i always wanted to be one of those really popular FlipaClip animation meme animators that had hundred thousand subscribers and a lot of likes and views on their videos, so i always did my best on my videos aswell as fast as possible. but it never happened and now im burned out so i always come back to your videos to just get back the passion and love i had for animating yk
This is a very valuable conversation, I appreciate & respect it. However, everyone will always have different outcome though, despite all of these making sense, but sometimes they're still not guaranteed as well, in my personal opinion & experience.
I feel like in this day and age, new generation of animators nowadays would only do animation studies / practices, put them out there on the internet, and they’d get opportunities here and there already, thanks to the Internet and the benefit of getting viral on the internet. Sometimes there are smart Human Resources / recruiters who understands well when animators has good fundamentals in their work, and they’d be confident to recruit them at first glimpse.
I’ve never done personal project, I even dropped out from animation school, I'm a pure self-taught person, but I can understand the sentiments of being frustrated & angry to self for wasting that much of time, effort & energy that ends up resulting nothing from it. Yet, here I’ am getting opportunities and lots of open doors because of my short animation studies / practices on social media; I end up working for Riot, and I have never apply to studios before, even to Riot. But people recognize, recommended, and hire me because of my dumb animations that somehow and sometime went viral.
Sometimes expecting nothing from things can be a pleasant experience as long we commit, believe and put our heart into our craft. But also, I feel like making personal project will only give ourselves an unhealthy amount of “expectation”, but its all depend on personal preferences after all, and how we navigate stuff if we want to survive in the industry. I do feel bad when animator so eager to finish their personal short films, and it end up drowning in obscurity. I think it's okay to follow the trend why is there so much internet animators that can be successful to find jobs at fast pace. That being said, at the end of the day we still NEED to always adapt to our ever changing world & reality.
I've come across a similar problem, I've had this personal passion project for a story I've been wanting to write for years but I'm putting too much expectations on myself on this story, I heard advice that you gotta work on other projects to gain more experience for the project I want to work on, I told a friend of mine this and he said "well its probably a bad story if you don't work on it first" and that just stuck with me
My goal is to just have a purpose in life, improving my animation skills and the rest is out of my control, but even though my highest goal is next to impossible, it motivates me to keep moving forward and increase the likelihood of reaching it.
i dont do animation myself, but for 25 years iv been and still am struggling with having a art style that I can be satisfied with and as a result i feel my art is still inconsistent which is extremely annoying and I'm not gonna be able to build that portfolio website and get hired, i don't feel good still but nice to bump into this video randomly.
they once say that practice makes perfect, but actually it just makes it crystalized, If you are stuck with an art style, then it sounds pretty good, been stuck with mine for 4 years, I still don't like it, but try throwing in something new or try drawing or such in a new way, best I can think of honestly
My only goal with my projects is to finish them to the best of my ability, and I always do this so I always feel accomplished. Surprisingly, finishing is a step not a lot of people accomplish, even if they've been drawing for years.
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For the longest time I wanted to get into the game dev industry as a programmer, but when I learned about the dark side of the industry, I'd rather make my own indie game over joining a studio.
Also, very often in so called "creative industries" people don't get to express THEIR creativity - they implement someone else's. There can be only so many lead artists and game designers at 1 project, but those 200 swords and 300 types of monetization gems won't draw themselves.
I made a personal animation project 2 years ago, which took 2 years to finish. It was only 2 minutes long. I fell in and out of it because I look at my work and often don't think it looks as good as any typical animation you'd find here on youtube because I never worked with complete programs and techniques beyond just drawing things by hand. I prefer the frame by frame style. I would have moments where I felt like I was doing really good. And moments where I questioned my abilities. Normally I would have finished it in 1-3 months but I would only work on it for like 2 days in hapazard sessions, then not touch it for 6+ months. All because I try hard to reach a goal then be hard on myself when I don't reach it. I don't really do it for opportunities. I just want to make something people like but sometimes it sucks to not meet the expectation or deadlines you set, so it feels like people fall out or move on and it's not worth animating anymore
Watched pantheon. You were involved in it right. So awesome the fight scenes
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It's not about the success or even about what you've made, what is learned during the process is most important.
I've had goals tear my mind apart so many times, I've had expectations fail me endlessly, whether you feel comfortable or not you just have to make things when you think about them, it's how we improve.
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Related to learning, an ingredient I always try to include on any project I work on is this: trying something new, even within familiar territory.
For me, that either means trying a composition technique, mixing methods, and whatever strategies for tackling whatever obstacles. Even outside of that, it can be video editing tricks, timing, visual composition, etc etc etc. If you can embrace any opportunity as a new learning opportunity, you typically can't go wrong.
Not with animation, but I got myself into two hobbies and just went along with things to see what I can learn.
I Now have a job in one of those hobbies and while it brings its own issues, I now have the hardware two cover three hobbies and all without setting a goal of getting a job, only putting out that I am interested.
My Universities exams are done now I am focusing on my proj. Well those proj are just for learning though
I think that’s good though. The projects you get to learn I would say are probably the best projects because you improve. Although I’ve failed on my pass projects and I haven’t really been able to finish one I’m happy with Im not giving up this time I’m confident I’ll finish it
Hey. I really like drawing, but I find myself loving more the mere act of depicting many sketches and artworks with a sense of movement rather than always making a finished piece. I used to think this was a flaw, but maybe I might just be cut out for animation. I’ve been drawing realistically for years, but at the moment have grown fond of a bouncier and big eyed cutesy anthro art style. I love drawing animals flying, or jumping and running, especially dragons and snakes, or imaginary creatures. Do you think it’s a good idea to experiment with this? Also, how can I animate traditionally?
I feel like in this vid you were especially frank. I chuckled every time you cussed lol - appreciate the real talk!!
The best way to avoid burn-out (other than quitting) is being sure to remember that you need personal projects. But not the kind that could turn into a financial opportunity. Make sure you allow yourself time to work on those true passions that will never be seen.
Let's face it friends. The world of animation can be as rewarding as it is frustrating. It's not easy. I love drawing but animating is another level above where one's mind struggles to keep going sometimes. It's a tricky world where people think it's a kids game because after all, it's only drawings in movement, childish isn't it? Besides, what's the world's percentage of people doing this? This means we're almost alone where the closest fellow animator might live miles and miles apart, so sharing our passion is difficult and only thanks to internet we can share but mostly, we're alone. So here's my voice to say, go ahead and keep sharing!!
Doing 2 year of comic and never expected being hired for webtoon or that stuff. Yeah i should not desire more in Animation (still new). Have fun and do huge challenges, reps are bonus
Hey, thanks for sharing
So make short goal oriented projects so that you can specifically focus on individual aspects of animation.
makes me wonder if i kept on drawing if i would be in a different path of my life. Started in 2010 and quit in 2016 due to me getting a dead end job lol. Still at the dead end job. Maybe if i still was drawing it would have made me rather decent at art but who knows. Passion is sadly long gone
Me after watching this cute dog artwork animation.
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worked on a (really bad) comic for about 5 years, and actually wanted to have a story going on its 2nd year. I really had nobody reading but that really didn't stop me from dishing out a comic or 2 each day. Thought it would be easy to make a story, but on the road I realized its quite hard to end one, like from from start, it gives ideas and how it can go, but when it gets more and more onto the story, its kind of hard to get to an ending with all this new stuff. People got lost when the story was continuing, which I did little refreshers or such, but that honestly feel like bad story design, and got myself to doughs myself. Thought about quitting earlier on a mid story only to cut it with a bad ending, and honestly If I could, I would go back and make it right. I'm not gunna say the name of the comic because of the "humor" n stuff being... questionable nowadays, could offend lots or such, but ey. Working on a goal is hard, and I get it sometimes, its hard to go on the road continuing something ya think that wouldn't end until the wall comes closer, but gotta realize something, your work is not you, your work is made by you or something by McCranie, has a good book about starting artists and somewhat helped me after quitting only trying to get back what stopped
I think people treat goals as an end point and then dont know what to do after acheving said goal. Goals to me personally are just checkpoints to my main passion, that being to life a happy and fulfilling life, sounds corny, but it keeps me content