All Joel Scenes in The Last of Us Part 2
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- All Joel Scenes in The Last of Us Part 2 / All Joel Miller Cutscenes
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Seeing Joel sad makes me wanna cry
One of my favorite things is Joel's voice, its soo soothing and feels like ASMR. Is it just me?
That's the majesty of Troy Baker's voice.
I would pay good money if Troy Baker does Asmr
@@F0re5tMan I was taken aback when I seen Troy, looks nothing like I pictured him in my head. Dude has an amazing voice and is a great dude as well
Southern accent baby
Its not just you
Bruh when Ellie yelled at Joel for helping her Mann it just make feel even more bad for joel especially when they actually started to get back toghether again
I feel the same way ughh
Abby's group before they killed him: He's probably out there killing people for selfish reasons
Joel: *riding back home with his brother to give his old guitar to his adoptive daughter*
still killed her dad
@@rileybobbert6527 did i asked 😉
@@smoker5989 did i ask if you asked?
@@rileybobbert6527 I mean her dad was a hack Scientist that said egor fetch me da brain, and tried to kill a child for a cure that wouldn't work. (Yes wouldn't work using real science not ingame video game world science).
All I wanted is to play as him
you do for like 5 minutes
@@bartolomeu2923 riding a horse doesn't count
You do in the last of us remastered
Joel and Tommy bandit dlc when
You did, in one of the games most beautiful scenes
It’s been 3 years now and I still think about Joel every day
Youre not alone bro so was i... Dont talk about him much but I think of him
Crazy how he’s only in it for an hour but his presence lingers over the entire game
Everytime, when I see that Joel Treat Ellie like his own daughter just makes me fucking cry... Everyfuckingtime...
You also cry when he gaslights her?
@@pulpficti lmao what
@@spycheck he gaslights her every time she wants to talk about what happened in Salt Lake City
@@pulpficti yeah I know I just thought it was funny af lol
@@spycheck that he gaslighted her? Don't understand
The first game started of with him loosing his daughter and the second was him making amends with his adopted daughter and reuniting with his biological daughter.
Ellie is his daughter. My heart says Ellie is an reincarnation of Sarah. When Sarah Died God sent her soul back to earth 20years later to reunite with his father. They were meant to meet and have a father daughter relationship.
imagine that you have lost your own daughter and found a new one
I don't even want to imagine what it's like to feel pain and happiness at the same time.
this is how i see Joel
Oh joel, they did u dirty old man
He got what he deserves.
@@RatedRLoquender no
They killed such a great character
Everyone dies eventually...
@@RatedRLoquender it was in the hands of neil cuckman and he could have done it in a better way for example like arthur morgan.
@@user2004k I mean… how many families did Arthur doomed? Taking away their money, their husbands, their goods, all that for some bills.., Arthur deserves the same as Joel but RDR2 is a western parody.
Joel doomed all humanity for his own sake, Joel deserves nothing but a golf club, and I really like his character, but it’s what he deserves.
Plus Niel created Joel so Niel can decides how to kill his character, it’s not like Luke Skywalker in episode 8. George Lucas didn’t even directed that movie, THAT is a wrong way to threat a character.
Thomas Downes? You owe me *muneh*
@@RatedRLoquender it's a VIDEO GAME calm down
Can naughty dog just do an ASMR podcast of just Joel talking about random stuff that would be such a relaxing thing to listen to.
The fact that the main character of the last game got 1 hour of screen time in a 20+ hour game should have been a red flags to the devs
this is ellies game, not his
@@russianpilot86 This is Abby's game. No one can call this the game of Joel or Ellie when there is no relationship between them and when you are forced to play as the killer of Joel.
Yes No
This is Abby’s game
@@youreokayboah2128 This proves Neil Druckmann is a simp
Bobby Nelson that’s not what angers me. I think a good death for Joel would’ve been its own reward. But the way they sent him off was just...
R.I.P Joel Miller
September 26, 1984 - March 2, 2038
How did you know what month it was?
@@smoker5989 I think it says that in the last of us wiki if I’m not mistaken
The reason we felt so betrayed with Joel's outcome was because we spent the WHOLE FIRST GOSHDARN GAME WITH HIM! I remember the ending of the game and tearing through fireflies to save my baby girl! And then he just gets clubbed in the first 2 hours of a 20 hour game! Not to mention he only gets 1 hour if screen time. Plus hes the whole motivation for ellie's quest! Ahhhhhhhh!
He is not the first great protagonist to die
@@fkvideoedit May I stand unshaken
@@pashauzan 🥲
@@fkvideoedit lee 😢
Bro this game make me cry for real
I cried because of how bad the story is.
Its the best game
Jk ofc
Al M it’s sad how they treated Joel
Macattack
It’s awful, one of my favorite characters cheaply killed to push an agenda.
We finally got to hear Joel sing. ^__^
In such a long game only an hour of joel and most of them are just FLASHBACKSS!!
The fact that the protagonist of the first game only have 1 hour of screentime, you never play as him directly and besides his death happen in the first two hours makes me so angry.
whata about spiderman miles Morales?
@@dij-rin4499 thats different and pete didnt die
@@dij-rin4499 that’s so different lol
@@dij-rin4499 that was a spin-off
And if that’s not making the player feel Ellie’s rage ( push the revenge narrative) then I don’t know what else would do it.
Well at list Joel is with his daughter now right.
Not being a dick here, and i like your positive outlook, but it is spelled "atleast" just correcting so you don't make the same mistake in the future ^^
Broo that hit me right in the feels
unless joel goes to hell
@@sup1886 Joel wont go to hell. He is not a bad person.
There is no afterlife.
Let's be honest we all wanted Joel and got batshit.
@@pearlcubs Neil Druckmann should be fired from ND, that man ruined the franchise aswell as the company. I will never purchase a game directed by him
Abby feels really pointless. I mean she's like those characters that just pop out of no where and takes everything. I don't know what Neil Druckman was thinking but didn't at least anyone question this decision before giving the go ahead? Because coming from the first game and into this makes most of part 2 unnecessary.
I hated seeing what happened to Joel as much as anyone but it was a realistic consequence of the first game. Which is kinda how the game was to begin with...
@@kingsley2837 just because he killed of a main character dosent mean that he should be fired to me it sounds like your just being a asshole
@@jackmygermansheperd1586 No because they used shitty writing to kill him off. Joel is one of the smartest most sensible characters in this universe. And he dies because he tells complete strangers his name🤦♂️🤦♂️. Its bad writing just to kill him off.
Joel Miller
First Words "Tommy"
Last Words "Goddammit."
Funny how the toughest and most sensible person we know in this universe revealed his identity to a complete stranger then went after just to get killed. What a stupid idea
Stfu this game is beautiful,1) Tommy revealed the identity, 2) it’s been 4+ years since he dealt with people like this why would he think in a post apocalyptic world this far in people would be looking for a guy called joel
@@rhaegarstark3013 stop making excuses they did it for plot which makes no sense these characters are smarter then this
You dumb or what? He's gonna meet people and be like "Soz broz, can't tell you my name because I've killed people before"?
@@rhaegarstark3013 i would tommy reveal his identy he know exactly joel has done to the fireflys why no fake names?
@@RogerHR they have literally been at peace for 4+ years and they revealed it to some random girl helping them that they didnt know was a firefly, complain more and go play last of us one and watch joel give his name out to everyone
Joel importance in Part 2 is incredible. His death IS Part 2.
And that's what bothers me the most Joel is not a character just a plot device to start the story
@@smoker5989 yeah, all that character development just to be used for some stupid revenge plot
@@ogbussag225 I know the comment is a year old at this point, but that revenge plot is not like anything before. Abby is not the main villain and neither is Ellie. It's vengeance. And yes part 2 has it's problems like streched out ending, but it's still a really good game.
@@smoker5989 Nah thats bullshit, his presence is felt throughout the entire arc Ellie goes through beginning to end. Hes not "just a plot device" to start the story, hes 1 half of the entire emotional core of Ellie's story.
@@Plumtree1187 yeah I don’t agree with the plot device assertion either. Pretty much everything that happens in the game is a consequence of his actions in the first game. Ellie avenges him to feel closer to him, Abby unknowingly becomes similar to him. The whole game is still about him even though he ironically dies in the first act.
59:56 this scene right there fix everything on this game for me. I love this game and I miss Joel already :(
Am I the only one who skipped Joel's death cuz I don't want to see him getting killed again
Believe me friend, you're not the only one.
Yes I was the same. It was so hard to watch
I skipped it because in my opinion Joel didn't die like that
@@smoker5989 It still happened.
Pretty sure everyone did that
Who would win a man who killed a whole militia and lived in the apocalypse for 25 years or a girl who has almost no combat experience
U on about Abby? Cause he had plenty of experiance and Joel had no way of living that situation he had to to go to hers to escape one of the biggest hordes he has seen and got his leg blown off, the fact people complain and believe he could have lived that blows my minds
@@rhaegarstark3013 Joel knew about 10000 fireflies were looking for vengeance and these people are grouped and asking a lot of questions we also know Joel trusted no one the fact that Abby ran into Joel in the horde is just lazy writing
@@HeatherJWilburn no he didn't. As is mentioned in part 1 and 2, the Salt Lake outpost was most of the remaining fireflies. They dispatched after Joel killed their two leaders and most soldiers. Sure maybe some lonely fireflies were looking for him, but how would they find him? Even if they'd have his name, it's the fucking apocalypse and the states are huge. Plus Abby didn't run into Joel, she followed his tracks.
@@pulpficti the fireflies are a big group and it was confirmed that that group was the only fireflies left so Joel basically killed 72 people Abby was Born in the apocalypse and was 16 when dad was killed and 20 when she killed Joel she would have had 3 years at most of training also she survived a horde the size of the Boston marathon there’s just so much plot armor that you just don’t feel like your character is just someone trying to survive and instead a super killer
@@HeatherJWilburn Abby was part of the WLF for 3 years and became Isaacs top scar killer. She definitely had better training than Ellie plus she has determination. She trained every day to become a killing machine and sacrificed everything for that. What's unbelievable about that? She definitely trained more than anyone in Jackson and probably even WFL. Hard work, that's it
56:45 my boi Joel would woop him😤
The last of us series will fail without Joel it’s a shame the devs didn’t realise that like the fans did, it breaks my heart. Joel is TLOU and TLOU is Joel
Indeed and tbh I don't think we will see The last of us 3
@@BestPKSA it’s for the best, I honestly just ignore that this is the sequel. Pretty stupid how a badass character like him died in such a stupid and random “plot twist” way.
@@svan4748 yea let’s just pretend TLOU2 never existed, that’s all we can do for now....
TLOU is Joel and Ellie, not just Joel. It has two protagonists ffs.
@@BestPKSA most awarded game in history and tv show announced? Yeah, highly doubt Sony and ND will try and make more money off it.
Best case scenario is they make Tommy a playable character in TLOU3 or in a prequel title which shows what Tommy and Joel had to do to survive after Sara’s death
God Troy Baker is incredible
He really is. He’s voice acted so many characters like of course Joel Miller, Samuel Drake from Uncharted 4, Simon Krieger from Spider-Man Miles Morales, and hell even Jonesy from Fortnite. I don’t play Fortnite tho
@@brendan594 Booker Dewitt from Bioshock, Joker from arkham origins, delsin from infamous, he's in so much.
The part where Joel dies pissed everyone off
Was obvious it had to happen and made this game almost perfect for me only people I know who hate it havnt actually played it
Why was this game of the year
@@isaiah7590 Sales are a huge mess
@@kingsley2837 this game was pathetic
@@isaiah7590 yes thats why no is buying LMAO
Imagine if they got the wrong Joel.
I can’t believe she leaves that guitar that Joel gave her at the end! The whole game just felt wrong to me! Joel the character deserved better, have him die of old age or protecting Ellie in a 3rd game, Not die the way he did!
Even with the "coincidence" that Joel came into the camp, he would've politely said no and left. Or got some backup.
She can’t use it anymore because she lost her fingers
@@Batt-man she could’ve flipped the guitar upside down and learn as a lefty. Would’ve been nice symbolism there too
@@the_snoo_muffin9028she didn’t even have to she could’ve played with the fingers she had left one of the greatest guitar players of all time only had 2 fingers Django Reinhardt!
Man you can so tell he cared so much for that girl 😞
Ah yes, all of my favorite character's canon scenes in one of my favorite games! *skips over death scene* All of them :)
So many people here are discussing how much they hated the game because you couldn't play as Joel or that you had to play as Abby. I'm not saying that it was an easy game to play or an easy change to accept. The change was undeniably hard. But that was the point right? That hard change can come at the worst times and that you can't do anything to stop it or undo it. That you'll experience regret, guilt, pain, and grief from those unwanted changes and it sucks, but it also stresses that you can choose how to deal with it. There's no denying that the game made an impact on everyone who played it (positive or negative). However, I think that it was a story worth telling in just the way that it was told because it encouraged people to see things from other perspectives especially when they hated doing it.
YES THANK U! I think it added more to the story of Joel dying because u see Ellie’s journey to LITERALLY give him justice and its so powerful and I like how we see Abby’s side and that she has also lost so much. No one is a good person in the apocalypse Joel isn’t, Ellie isn’t, Abby isn’t (I hope that makes sense). But I actually loved the game it was unbelievably amazing and so sad and badass. It also felt really cool to play as a badass women who are so powerful. Plus the game doesn’t forgot about Joel at all because Ellie’s journey is all for Joel, and that shows she loved him.
Everyone saying that Joel was treated poorly in tlou2 is really missing out on the story of the game. Joel had a really well fleshed out and completed story arc in the first game with Ellie as a supporting character, and I personally think there wasn't a lot to be added to his story and character without being forced/diluted. His death as a catalyst for Ellie's journey is not an abandonment of the character; his presence is felt deeply throughout the entire game, and reflects/parallels so much of Ellie's story arc. The end to his life was not necessarily an end to his story; his character continues to evolve and change over the course of the game, and the scenes of him continuously recontextualize who he was and his relationship to Ellie at the time of his death, perfectly in time with the evolution of Ellie's character. In all, while I really love Joel so much, I think there is just the right amount of him without detracting from this new chapter of Ellie's life that we follow. His role is incredibly important and I disagree completely with the idea that he was fridged.
You’ve explained it perfectly. Thank you.
Ok but why did they treat him like a complete idiot and have him just fully trust a whole bunch of random strangers he meets right next to where they live
Joel blindly trusted a couple of strangers in TLOU 1 too (Henry and Sam), and he did it TWICE, the second time being after the brothers left them to die, so that was very much in-character for him.
Everything you said for Joel goes to this entire damn game. It had a nice ending, and didn’t need to be dragged out into a sequel in all honesty unless they were to pull a GTA and have a whole new set of characters.
There was nothing that couldn’t be added to the damned story in general that wouldn’t have been forced and diluted. The entire game of TLOU 2 was forced and diluted.
You want a real example of how to kill off a beloved protagonist in character and correctly? Look at the red dead series.
John and Arthur both stayed 100% true to their character no matter what, and even in the face of death. Joel in TLOU2 was an overly trustful pussy, nothing like what he was in the first game which was a hardened and paranoid survivor.
I don't think any father would make a different choice, no matter what it cost the world.
Hmm brutally murdering like 30 plus people to save their daughter and potentially killing the human race. Not sure how many fathers out there would do the same. Still love Joel tho x
Same for father’s children of getting revenge
oh man im crying
I think Tommy should have died so Joel can feel the same kinda pain as Abby did when Joel rampaged in salt lake city which then kicks off. Revenge story for Joel which gets him killed about half way through the game causing Ellie to want to finish what Joel started
Or never even start a game with a deuteragonist becoming important and make the revenge plot about Tommy. Ellie was never a good choice for a protagonist. Even as a deuteragonist, I didn't really like her.
Just look at Telltale TWD. Clementine was beloved and transitioned awesomely and Lee's death has purpose and was so well executed. TLOU2 was so dry, also the fact that Ellie wasn't beloved by everyone who played the first game, it's what destroyed it's reputation.
@@bggsz4 Ellie's character wasn't beloved? What the fuck have you been smoking the last few years. The pair's iconic in video game history
@@Cavers Yes, keyword "pair". I've seen many people say they found Ellie annoying. And things didn't exactly get better when she was revealed as LGBT with Left Behind. It was one of the first things that sparked a lot of controversy for Naughty Dog.
This is like if Halo Infinite came out and Master Chief tripped on a bananna peel and died in the first 10 minutes
Neither game did this but okay.
The peel kills Master chief because he ate the banana inside
I play my guitar because of Joel, all of us can learn from him. 🥺🥺🥺
16:36
(Goku Voice)
*You Fooooooooool!!!*
The franchise died with Joel.
Oh, no, no, no. The franchise will die with Part III killing Ellie and I truly believe that this is what the developers are doing.
@@JinxTheLooneyToon915 A Part 3 isn't gonna happen LOL.
SuperSaiyan3985
We'll see.
@@SuperSaiyan3985 it's probably gonna happen considering what the game implies
I really want the part 3 to happen where Ellie wakes up from a long coma and finds out it's all dream and all the characters specially Joel is alive.
My heart Joel💕
They really let Abby live at the end, that's like if they just let Micah go at the end of Red Dead Redemption 2.
Please don't compare game of the generation to lgtbq trash
Joel should never had died
The BEST part of the game has been uploaded, yay!
(Except for the death scene, of course...)
Joel's death is really sad
I hate how Ellie seems hell bent on dying for her life to have meaning, and completely missed that her life has meaning to Joel. She then goes on to treat him like shit, I just don't like that side of her.
@nathaann I agree with most of what you are saying, but I can't agree on the justified bit. Her treatment of a man who has shown time and time again the lengths he's willing to go to keep her alive. Protected her and gave her some form of childhood while, shielding her from some information that he and most would deem too much for a fourteen year old kid to handle. To be treated the way she treats him is pretty shitty from her.
This is what the game should have been even if its short it would have been better
What.. NO
Z _ yes
YES IDC we need more Joel.
After such a long time,even with understanding reasons(at least most of them) why Abby did what she did,i still hate her. I still can't accept how cruel and cold-blooded Joel was killed.
Seeing Joel all chocked up at the possibility of mending his relationship with Ellie.... Anyone else just wanna give the man a hug?? :')
remember, the last of us 2 happened the way it did because the person who created TLOU part 1, either left or was fired, i cant remember. Leaving Neil to be the writer. It was also known because of that left/fired writer, that if Neil was in charge of TLOU fully, he wouldve made it some pointless revenge story, making Tess TLOU part one's Abby.
All I wanted is totally see joel live
The flashbacks of Joel were the only good parts of the game
Nah, you're just salty.
@@MrBraddles3128 yeah i am bc this was easily the most disappointing game of the last century
@@brendan594 Aw, you gonna cry?
@@brendan594 "Oh no, a game focused on revenge gives me somebody to avenge, err". You sound stupid.
@@MrBraddles3128 not even that. It’s just that they completely took away the meaning of the first game. Also, revenge is dumb
Ellie is toxic asf to poor Joel
Ellie's entire existence in Last Of Us is toxic. She even said so herself that everyone she knows dies.
I mean she kinda has the right to be angry with Joel. She’s still a kid and what Joel did was “justified” but still messed up
seeing joel dead like this 57:27 makes me Angry
57:27 this is how his face looked after his last golf swing
Doctor: "You have an hour and 6 to live"
Me:
U still missed 20 seconds
@@eddieasian best 20 seconds of my life
Fuck part 2, after Joel's death everyone gonna play part 1 again to play as Joel.
Really just over 1 hour of Joel???!!
I want joel back bring him back don't explain it just bring him back he could have been in a coma or come back as a zombie then got cured just bring him back 😰!
He’s not fucking real Joel is a fictional character, yes it’s sad and tragic but that’s the world of the last of us.
Neil Druckmann should be fired from ND, that man ruined the franchise aswell as the company. I will never purchase a game directed by him
Me too
Explain please
@@obiwankenobi5845 he wrote the story of tlou2 and it was very stupid and bad
I know who he is I just wanted him to explain why it was bad I should’ve been more specific
I think he stepped down as vp.
God Damn İt!
same bro same :)
Troy baker is a legend!
45:30 damn Joel where was that papa strength in part one
GERONIMO!! 😂
bro, joel's voice is just asmr
Yeah
6 years waiting for nothing honestly. But anything will change, so I hope they'll make a prequel ablut Joel and his 20 years surviving
It is my humble opinion that Joel never died like that, anyone who disagrees is wrong.
spittin
It’s canon 😂
They should make the hbo series in cgi, same faces with the same voice actors... I'm afraid the magic/chemistry and familiarity will be lost. I don't want be more disappointed
Tell me the minutes that fit the adit
I actually wanted to buy this game
The trailers tricked the fans into thinking that Joel would have a bigger role
I got the first game
Will never buy this one nor future ones
Poor you
Joel would've wanted her to kill in revenge, or no?
29:34
Really made me sad when marketing for the game heavily relied on Joel and we only got about an hour and half of him in the 10 or 12 hour game
I laugh at all the "this is like master chief falling on a banana peel and dying in the first 5 minutes of Halo 3" and "letting Abby live at the end is like letting Micah live in RDR2" comments but thematically, everything makes perfect sense in this story.
The only bit I found a little absurd was Ellie and Dina raising Jesse's kid in a cozy little farmhouse together. That part was so cheesy and ridiculous to me. Especially how they barely talk about Jesse after he dies. People mad that they killed Joel.. I was fully expecting him to die at some point since the first game. Not sure how they didn't see that coming.
they ruined such a beautiful game with that llleesbiian ggayy shittt
I don't know what you will tell me for this comment but
"I have to confess that the story was excellent!"
Good for you!
Story is horrible to me.
Don't like it much..
i'm sorry but if i wrote tlou abby would absolutely die at the end
1:07 didnt the hospital took place at night?
No.
Actually, i think it did. But when Joel and Ellie were driving. It was day.
Or maybe a continuity error
i hate that ellie keep reminding joel about the hospital
After playing this game, it makes sense why Abby killed Joel.
Goes to show that while some people see you as a good person, some people will see you as a bad person based on actions and behavior.
While the Joel we knew in the first game was a person who went thru loss and was given a second chance to being a father, the Joel in the second game was seen as a bad person and a selfish person for his personal gain without knowing the consequences.
Talk about a dark turn.
But still I think they should have stopped at Last of Us 1 and never put Part II out.
thank you for this..
i.wont buy this game.. ill leave them be in my memory from tlou1..
It's like he have a permission to die after Ellie gave him a "i don't think i can ever forgive you for that, but i would like to try." After that night he died. So weird.
It like "yep, i got her forgiveness i'm bout' to die in peace now."
You know what it was a dream Joel is still alive game starts again at the last scene with his coffee
ALL I WANTED WAS YOUUUUUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAGGHHHHHH
Most disappointing game of the gen.
AJA that’s a reach
I don t really know how it finished on game of the year
I don’t understand why people are so mad about Joel not being the main focus of this game. The whole first game was about Joel and how he grows to care about Ellie. The second one is about how Ellie and others react to Joel’s choices from the first game. This is not Joel’s game, it’s Ellie’s and Abby’s. If you miss playing as Joel go back to the first game.
I’ve seen mushrooms with bigger brains.
@@foobar2988 that’s an opinion and he is kind of right , the problem is that Naughty dog lied to fans about what the game was really about
@@yveltalpoderoso1303 I’ve never once heard naughty dog say this would be another adventure with Joel as the focus, all they stated was that he was in the game and would serve and would have an important part, both of which are true because without him the story wouldn’t happen
@@chubchubpotatoes4983 i highly disagree they false ad to fans for putting joel in a cutscene and replaced him with jessie.
@@yveltalpoderoso1303 so they should've just put the main spoiler in all the ads and trailers?
So much potential, ruined. Waste of a sequel to one of the greatest games. Naughty Dog must be so proud making this SJW clusterfuck.
Good god, people's lack of media literacy in the comments is mind numbing. I like both games, I like all the characters, but I will never understand the backlash to the direction they took with the second game.
Joel's death in the game is good story writing, he is facing the consequences of his actions, which is thematically tied to the game's narrative. Similar to RDR2, the point is that you don't get to live a peaceful life after causing so much chaos. He literally dooms humanity without a cure to live a small town life with his surrogate daughter.
Ellie becomes are parallel to who Joel used to be, who also becomes a parallel to Abby, and essentially becomes destined to be like both of them. Similar to what Ellie says in the first game, she ends up alone, but this time it was her fault.
Sorry you couldn't play the second game as the rugged cowboy daddy. It's a video game, its time to chill out.
If his death was destined they should of gave us more screen time for all the playable characters before it happen. How you gonna introduce a new character by killing one of the most liked gaming characters in history. That just made everyone hate Abby for the whole game, and if the ending had to be Ellie or Abby in that fight we all know what the most people are going to pick
Always said, and always will said I dont agree with the story they made for the second part, ruin the game, total mistake, its just my opinon
Never liked Ellie in the game! Should of understood from Joel’s perspective
#justiceforjoel
Fucking Neil Druckmann...
I hate SJWs...
Imagine if they teamed up as shown in the trailer. Should have been Dina or somebody else that dies and they go together to find the people who did it
The revenge story would’ve have been nearly as impactful if it wasn’t Joel who died. Another Ellie and Joel adventure would be a repeat of the first game no matter what plot point they went with.
@@TheSagefx and that doesn't work for shit because at the end they didn't even let us avenge Joel
@@smoker5989 that wasn’t the point of the game
@@TheSagefx so what was the point then? Killing threw ppl and then let go the one who actually killed him the devs said that its a revenge game u can even read this in the psn describtion lol
@@RogerHR to me it was about the lengths people will go through in the name of love. Grief (both ambiguous and unambiguous), trauma, PTSD, survivor’s guilt and the power of forgiveness.
56:56 this is why i hated the game and wished i didn't bought it
I hate Ellie for what she done to Joel
Still not better as Arthur.