These Cops Will Pay For This One | This Got Ugly Fast
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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This video is the perfect example of why cops have a no care attitude. As this video will prove their leadership taught them this was fine to do. The police chief in this video is worst than the cops that he supervises!
Repost from yesterday. The video was removed twice!!!
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Repost from yesterday. The video was removed twice!!!
Original Video: czcams.com/video/-EgolRrSdHM/video.html
Kent Police Department
(845) 225-4600
Why?
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Man, I had the first comment on that video yesterday lol
@@cesiba1 Good question
@@michaelccopelandsr7120 Thank you
Muting or turning off body cameras should be charged as a felony tampering with evidence.
The only time officers should turn off their cameras and mikes is while off duty, while eating lunch or using a rest room. Forgetting to turn them on while on duty should be a reason for immediate termination after 2 warnings.
It should also be classified by interfering in an investigation.
Police body cams should be made where they cannot be turned off or muted, the arguments for privacy goes out the window with 100's if not 1000's of videos like this one where they cover up their own crimes. Another choice would be that if a cop turns off the camera, while the camera is off or muted the cop won't be paid. If the cop forgets to turn the camera on again then guess what the cop just worked for free.
@@brianabc83 Make it an automatic, required, and fireable offense to have a dashcam or bodycam turned off while on duty, and enforce it. Officers should not be required to wear an actively recording camera for bathroom breaks or lunch breaks (who wants management to hear what you talk about on your own time). But have a consistently enforced REQUIREMENT that all bodycams be working while an officer is on duty. And fire those officers who "forget." Memories will improve instantly.
The cameras need to be set up so that the individual officers can not turn off the volume or the camera itself.
Never lose sight of the fact that there is no situation that a cop can’t make worse .
In any contact with a cop, you have a 50/50 chance of being killed or injured.
Immediately. No interaction with police, outside of you calling for them, is ever in your best interest.
that goes for our personal life - you and me. think about it.
I live by this man 100 percent agreement
Even calling for the police when you need help is extremely dangerous. There is a plethora of videos showing police murdering people because the families called to help with a mental health crisis. Or people falsely arrested because their cars were stolen or damaged; and police accuse them of hit and run.
WHAT THESE COPS ARE DOING SHOULD BE BANNED, SHUTTING OFF BODY CAMS SHOULD BE UNLAWFULL !!
Looks like a setup for the cops for clickbait. Well done fellas
They seized him, restrained him n handcuffs, searched him, removed him from where he was in public, and caged him in their vehicle.
That's an arrest all day long.
Don't forget the injuries to his wrists. That's battery.
Also, since the search happened after he was taken from where he was to the car, that was a search subsequent to arrest reinforcing the fact that he was actually under arrest.
Add to that he had invoked his 5th and 6th ammendment rights and they still attempted to question him. Of course seconds after that the cop denied that he had asked a question.
And kidnapping don’t forget that
Setup! These two guys played this group of police for clickbait. Epic!
@sammelven6240
If cops knew WTF they were doing, it would be impossible to set them up. If they KNEW our rights and the law...nobody would get "baited".
The police incompetence is disturbing.No wonder 98% of reported crimes remain unsolved.
ABSOLUTELY AGREE
We really need to stop calling it "incompetence." I don't believe they are unable to do their jobs reasonably or correctly, they choose not to. They are willful aggressors and abusers and a clear danger to society.
Exactly. I've dealt with similar with local pd's, it seems they want you to provide them with the name address and SS# of the people(s) they are looking for when you report a crime, otherwise how are they supposed to do their job if you don't do 95% of the work first.
Odd how murder solve rates dropped when the drug war started. Chasing that grant money & low hanging fruit. Don't forget asset forfeiture. It's no wonder they don't solve real crime, that would be hard! 😊
Maybe because 98% of crimes are done by them. Just a wild quess
Muting body cams should be considered altering evidence and charged as a felony
I agree
I agree. If we did something similar that is what we would be charged with
I absolutely agree they even cover them with hands take them off and erase the footage i
Starts with the unelected at number 10
I hope this man filed a Lawsuit against them
The hatred for the people is unbelievable these cops should be fired immediately
I hope he sues the crap out of this city. They broke every law in the books.
Suing is not enough because the taxpayers are paying the bills. We need to get rid of congress and start the whole country over
The cop should be sued, not the taxpayers
Sue for getting disqualified immunity against those officers involved there.
Not a city. What you saw was about all there is of this Blue Crips crib
AAAaaand these Criminal Cops always say.."...we've had MANY calls.." there was exactly ONE call
Oh I remember this! Not only did they mess up, they make fun of the guy after illegally detaining him didn't even offer an apology. He's not an auditor at the time, but unironically they probably created one!
Definitely created one. Some auditors start that way and I’m glad they did. Boy have I learned a lot because of them.
that wasn't a detainment, that was an arrest.
He is lucky usually when they screw up like this they find a way to hem you up on a trumped up charge in order to make it harder for you to sue.
I saw this one yesterday
Back the Blue til they #### with you
Road pirates w badges and guns. I hope he sued them
These cowards deleted their Facebook page.
it's a prerequisite to the job if you have any integrity you don't get hired
And if they didn't have that badge, you wouldn't hear from them at all.
hillarious.
did they? HAHAH. small victory for the people then.
The Kent Fire Dept page is still up :)
I hope he sues the hell out of them. The lies tyrants tell.
Absolutely disgusting. They should not be allowed to turn off or mute their body cameras.
IF A PERSON IS IN HANDCUFFS IN THE BACK OF A COP CAR HE IS UNDER ARREST, FULL STOP !! NOT LEGALLY !!
First the 911 call is insane. “Someone rang my doorbell and left when I didn’t answer the door.” Ummm should they have broken in and made a sandwich? What do you expect someone to do in that situation?
That's because the caller was another cop
Sue that SOB Chief for millions and do everything you can to ensure he's fired.
This is how they behave when wrong laughing and not giving their names etc. Absolute abuse of power disgraceful
Charge them no qualified immunity
End qualified immunity! Make each officer personally liable! It's POS tyrants like this that prove why they don't deserve it.
The current SCOTUS declined, again, to revisit QI two or three years ago
Perhaps initiating a basic bond upon graduation from academy. That grows in value over the process of a career that is attached to their pension. That replaces qualified immunity. Essentially each LEO insures the public they will be personally culpable for their own unlawful and inappropriate actions.
new york has no qualified immunity anymore
There is a national movement underway to end qualified immunity.
@@terrilamontagne6603 That is only for the NYPD...the rest of the Government still has it!
This is infuriating. And it happens every where every day! It's sickening. The chief omg how disgusting!
I agree, and it really gets my blood pressure up
@@ITisandiamIT yeah me too. I'm at the point where I question why I continue to watch these videos because it makes me so angry and gets me all twisted up for the whole day. Then I realize I watch them because I'm tired of being a victim to it and I want to see real change. One I have to fill my head with everything I can about how to deal with these scumbags in a way that preserves my rights and two I need to be educated about it so I can educate others hopefully one day help to effect real change
The chief should be aware and held to a higher level
It's a daily ritual in my Black/Brown community! he still enjoyed some white privilege as they sat him inside the car.
In my community they sit you on the sidewalk to further reduce you as a Human being.
I so wish I were lying and exaggerating. DAMN shame!
Please do not give the gangmaster the title of Chief of Police. He is a disgrace to the position and his department. This is reminiscent of Nazi Germany. The footsoldiers are nothing more than corrupt thugs. This is a great example of the way America is going to become just another police state.
Unless it's illegal in Kent NY to ring a doorbell and write something down, no crime was ever committed in the first place.
The first thing the officer, police chief, and detectives should have asked was, what is the physical description of the individual. An old friend of mine and I were detained by 2 detectives from the sheriffs office, they made us get in the car, but I left my foot sticking out of the car, and I asked them why we were being detained? They said that they had solid information that we were seen stealing stop signs. I told them flat out, they were violating our 4th Amendment Rights. I then asked them who it was that made these accusations, their comments were, we can’t give out that information. I then said, bullsh•t, that’s another violation of our Constitutional Rights, I then said, we have the right to know who our accusers are and be confronted by said accusers. They again said that they can’t reveal who made the accusations. I told then them, that we wanted a lawyer and that we were done talking to them. I told my buddy, let’s go. They said you can’t leave, we’re detaining you. I then said, I want my phone call. They then said, to whom? I replied, the Department of the Army, because I’m coming for your badges and the sheriff’s department, I’m going to own everything, and you may want to go check your information and confront the accuser/s, because I’m home on leave and preparing to deploy overseas, as we exited the car. The next week, they arrested the 10 individuals that were actually stealing the stop signs, after they received information that 1 of the individuals was bragging about it at school. When they served the search warrant, they found 1 of the signs in the kids closet. We never received 1 apology at all from the detectives or even the sheriff himself. Sorry about the novel, I just wanted to share the experience I had.
Clowns with guns god help us 😢
False imprisonment should be a felony, with prison time and disqualification from firearms ownership and ANY law enforcement position for life, including night watchman.
Love the way the cop says you are not under arrest with a care free attitude like what’s the big deal, while the guy is locked in the back seat with his hands secured behind his back.
if thats not under arrest then i need a new dictionary!
So many lies, so much disrespect. It’s a damn shame.
And they still laugh and laugh and cash a PAY CHECK ANYWAY 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬
If the Top Clown is that corrupt, that whole department is corrupt. Until Qualified Immunity is abolished & all officers are required to carry their own liability insurance, this bullying of citizens will continue and cities will foot the bill for their stupidity & violations
of law abiding citizens’ rights. Great Narration.
Gasparini was just a clown. The Chief is no better than any other mugger. The township should seriously look at the employment status of this police department. The public would be safer without them.
When you say city you mean taxpayers!
Does anybody still believes that they're really not doing what they're supposed to be doing?
They're doing their jobs just fine;
To serve and protect is a lie, it's a farce to make us think we need them..
Why are they allowed to mute the body cameras it's freaking ridiculous. Who knows what they are conspiring about 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
The actual "suspect" didn’t even do anything illegal.
They had no right to detain him even if he was the right guy.
I think that's what else is being missed here. What was there plan if they had the right guy?
They always use the "you matched the description" as a cover for abusive police work and citizen harassment.
@@piper998877wait for that guy to deny offering ID, tell him it’s law, wait for him to get mad about it, then arrest him anyway for trespassing and obstruction without having been trespassed
Still confusing there with their?
.;)
There should be no muting or turning off the microphones. Doing so should automatically free the detained person.
And should immediately jail the offending officers. Manipulating BWC is the same as evidence tampering, imo.
they should all be charged and convicted of evidence tampering
How about a body camera that has a button but it does not mute or turn off the camera for 2-3 minutes after pressing the power?
Great idea!! 👍👍
In some areas now, departments have new equipment that doesn't allow the body camera/audio to be turned off even if they think they are. There was a big bust recently of dirty cops in detroit I think. A whole bunch of them were fired and arrested for all sorts of violent crimes against suspects, sometimes even just traffic stops or other crimes with no victims.
Take him to court and hold them accountable them their asses I want to see them lose the jobs for kidnapping citizens on the street…!!!
Judges need to treat turning off the cam or tuning off the mic as "Tampering with evidence." BECAUSE IT IS! Anything said when the mic is turned of is not available to the court and that is TAPERING with evidence!
Clearly these cops don’t know or care about our right or probable cause but the part that really blows my mind is that as far as I can tell no crime was actually reported at any point. “We got a call that nothing illegal occurred so we are now going to violate your rights.” Great job boys👏
Takeaway qualified, and start holding them personally responsible for their stupidity and you will see a change. except there wasn't even a crime reported in this scenario it's not against the law to ring a doorbell the cop claimed that the complaint with someone was looking in a window and that just simply was not the case.
Actually the guy with a badge and gun lied with a straight face, we got a call about someone ringing doorbells and opening windows AND you match the description. It was one call about one nypd officer's holy doorbell being rung. What criminal activates a camera bell before committing a crime?!?!?
@ddallas8540 REALLY REALLY A NYPD DUDE got his doorbell rang and this is the response wow somebody needs a hobby THE TOWNS MONEY IS REALLY BEING SPENT CAREFULLY ON THIS DAY C.O.P's = Criminals On ( the) Prawl
That's insane. There literally wasn't even a crime reported.
You’d like someone checking out your house and truck??
@@brianbickle7395 he man rung the doorbell nothng more, nothng less, he was not asked to leave.
@@brianbickle7395me not liking it has nothing to do with whether a crime has occurred
In hand cuffs and locked in a squad car..... Good thing dude wasn't under arrest... 🤦♀
The fact that he was placed in handcuffs and taken from where he was makes it a defacto arrest.
If the cop had simply said he was detained but he needed to step to the side of the road to allow traffic to pass would have been different, but that's not what happened.
@@davidrush4908 (I was being sarcastic. That's why I used the facepalm emoji...)
@@healingsoul13I wasn't sure. I don't do Facebook because I don't see the point, and also I've been dealing with a sociopathic narcissist for years. Thats one troll I don't want to feed.
@@davidrush4908 All good. Understood. 🙂
ITS LIKE THEY STILL DONT WANTO LET A FREE MAN GO!!??
How can cops even be allowed to handcuff anyone before figuring anything out.
Every single time cops turn off their mics or their body camera, they should be charged with obstruction of justice, as they are hiding evidence of a crime or the potential of a crime by hiding what is happening. The camera is there to protect the people from the police, not so the police can turn them off.
Good point! The most important thing too is to abolish QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.
And can also prove auditurds lie😂😂
Ever wonder how when you go to court misteriously the video of the stop just isn't available or " my camera was was dead". Crooked cops.
Turning off or muting microphones should be an instant dismissal offence. Dirty cops are everywhere. The country will be no different from Russia, China or North Korea. LAND OF THE FREE. DREAM ON CHILDREN.
@@brianbickle7395aww brian bitchel doesnt approve of auditing yet his dumbass is giving views to the channel
Hope he sues the shit out of these thugs. Outrageous.
Absolutely! Should be against the law for them to turn their mics off or the body cams off if they do, it's severe consequences not up to being fired
They always want to charge you with "resisting arrest" and "obstruction of justice" or "disorderly conduct" or "failure to ID" but what did they do to get those charges to begin with because they weren't charged with anything else but those things.
Happens all the time
The law becomes so loose when they can use it to there advantage.
U forget hindering, which is in the ballpark of obstruction i guess. don't forget loitering or trespassing.
I hear lawyers deal with the bogus charges u and I mentioned, a lot. they call it arrest for POPO, which is pissing of police.
the ID thing, n cop ego, usually results in a POPO charge. it's an epidemic that needs more attention.
Great point you made.
and you match the description, "we got a call" wanted to see if you where ok ... JUST LEAVE US ALONE
Cop: "I don''t care what you say." Translation: "We're gonna do what we want and it sucks to be you."
great comment.. getting tired of seeing so much police misconduct
They don’t care if they go to court because the taxpayers will pay for his ignorance not the cops. They should have to pay lawsuits from their professional insurance, pensions or personal property.
How about all three?
Pathetic abuse of authority, the police chief is a disgrace and should resign!!
Need to sue the officers, chief, department, city and whoever hired this chief as an individual. Whoever approves the hiring of these people needs to be held responsible then they might think about who they hire.
Remind us again that this is an "isolated incident" and that there are only "a few bad apples" in the department... Bad Cops get promotions and Good Cops never seem to be present when the Bad cops are out of control.
Any police officer that stands there and watches another police officer violate someones civil rights is culpable in that violation. And are completely open to the same lawsuit. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
All the good cops either quit or get fired for outing the corruption. So there are no good cops
There are no good cops outside of very small towns. Any cop that would be good either quits with a crisis of conscience, or gets drummed out for not going along with the bullshit. Abiyah is a perfect example.
Umm, yup, doesn't matter about the little guys, biggest bad apple, is the chief...
Bro, it may not be an isolated incident, and maybe it happens all the time, but look at all the good officers who stepped in to deescalate and protect his civil rights.. oh, no.. wait.. they all watched it happen and helped.. even the chief. Then, they didn't apologize for their intrusion and confinement of the completely innocent person, and acted as if his wanting to observe his civil rights made him "difficult" and justified their violating his rights.
The sad part is that the suspicious guy is free to keep looking around houses unmolested while most of the police department is tied up "detaining" the innocent guy. That's a real piece of police work right there.
Fire that police chief and his police men To and sue them and the police dept to and the state to
to or too? if not soo sure use 2..
.;)
Imagine physically taking another human being (kidnapping), place them in restraints, lock them in the back of your vehicle and force them to sit there for any amount of time against their will? Yeah, that’s illegal. Your name, race, religion, age, gender, job title, etc are completely irrelevant. No human being can kidnap another human being against their will. “But they are cops!” Someone will say - irrelevant. Simply being a cop does not grant you permission to kidnap a law abiding citizen. It’s that simple.
Handcuffs. Searched. Placed in the back of a vehicle without freedom of movement. Strong argument for illegal arrest. I hope this guy sues the shit out of every single officer & the city. The fact the first action was handcuffs in a detainment is absolutely insane in America. This auditor does a fantastic job being calm, not resisting, & asserting his rights!
These should be considered a de facto arrest.
@@MommasBoy-ul8nj Once they cuff you and move you to the car ,station ,you are arrested , Detained means "keep (someone) from proceeding"
More tax dollars for a slam dunk lawsuit.
I keep wondering when taxpayers are going to get tired of having their taxes raised because of these false arrests all across the country?
These types of calls to the police are just ridiculous! This guy is a p……….wimp if he is calling for someone ringing his doorbell. That’s not detainment, it’s an arrest!
Caller was another cop. We know how they are
ATROCIOUS!!!
Is it against the
law to ring a
doorbell or knock
on a door???
NO!!!
Law Enforcement
prove just how stupid they REALLY ARE every day!!
Yeah that was kind of my whole point. But I guess the blue-line gang back eachother even if you're breathing on their property.
Tyrants hate to be questioned.
Lawsuits should come out of the officers pockets. That will change their behavior.
Hes handcuffed, he's under arrest, he has no mobilty
All cost should be shared by the department and cops involved out of pockets, not the taxpayer's
Please VOTE this year maybe it will help the AMERICA we remember
This guy was well versed in his rights and will definitely file a lawsuit. Looking forward to any update on this.
I need help with my situation or advice.
@@yolowah. you can’t get help or advice here .
Yeah. My biggest worry is for those people that are shy or not as articulate or don't know their own rights. They just get rag dolled by these incompetent bullies.
It should be illegal for them to mute their bodycam footage. Could that not be construed as obstruction of an investigation? If not it should be!
I hope the guy sued the police department
How about those that can read lips?
These Striver Fascists couldn't solve a WHERE'S WALDO book...
Even the guy in the video at the Ring doorbell did Not break the law! WTF!
And this illegal act is exactly what will get these cops hired by the big departments
Fun fact, larger departments are easier to get hired at
Sure hope he brings charges against this department and city for this and holds these cops accountable for their blatant disregard for this man's rights under color of law
He did.
The fact that their bodycams are on youtube is the giveaway that he did.
This kind of behavior NEEDS TO STOP!! Cops need to start being held accountable for their disgusting actions!! I'm so happy you are exposing the bad apples, dirty cops!!!!
Once again we see where the tyrants go hands on, then try to find something they can charge him with when they realize they screwed up.
#EndQualifiedImmunity
Hope he takes it all the way and puts them in their place
Their attitude is just sickening
What's even worse is the town supervisor's gaslighting letter in response to this incident. They deserve a lawsuit and I hope it is prohibitively expensive.
It needs to be a crime to mute or turn off a police camera.
I have stated in the past, and I will continue to state that police SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO MUTE OR TURN OFF BODY CAMERAS. These cameras should be issued at the beginning of the shift, and not be able to be muted, turned off, or otherwise tampered with. At the end of shift, the cameras should be turned in to the Internal Affairs IT guy to be downloaded for review. Appropriate action should be taken for any wrongdoing on the officer's part, including immediate suspension or dismissal for turning off or muting the camera.
If the officer mutes the camera, then this footage is later used in a prosecution, is muting the camera or turning it off not tampering with evidence? Which is, incidentally, a CRIME!
And the popo chief is in on the muting of the mic! He is as corrupt as the others!
I gave them a blast on their Facebook page. Now it looks like they took it down. They need to be put behind bars.
There was never a crime even if he did knock on the door and stand there. No crime
The REAL Funny YET SAD thing is how out of shape MOST these so called LAW enFORCErs are !
When cops say "here's the deal", that means they think they might have screwed up and are trying to copsplain their way out of it.
The victim should immediately contact the Institute of Justice.
Not only are they violating one man's rights and wasting time with someone who doesn't even match the description, the real potential criminal is getting away, and/or possibly committing more crimes.
Tyrants hate being called out on their tyranny.
When they muted their mics, and realise they have arrested the wrong person, you can bet the reason they were stood around talking is because they were trying to work out if they could charge this guy with something, anything, to cover their wrongful arrest.
If they had the right guy what would’ve given them the right to arrest him?
This is infuriating! Clearly a dept that is rotten from the top down. I hope there is a lawsuit. I hope that the chief gets fired as well as the officers. This is unacceptable.
The Chief pig needs to do time and have a judgement enforced on him after a civil lawsuit.
@@MrDCMiami And we can laugh when he says we are violating his rights.
I am thankful that you come fwd against the blue. I have had colleagues ask for my corroboration ~NO!
Absolutely disgusting behavior by these Tyrants.
Thank you for this. The Gestapo in America?? I hope this victim can afford to prosecute these criminal cops' behavior. Despicable!😮
A lot of Gestapo in America.
Their mics actually weren't manually muted by the officers. The audio was edited out by the department. That is important to notice. The department knew they incriminated themselves during that huddle. That edit has removed evidence against the department.
Absolutely! I liked a comment earlier that said there should be a bodycam online, real time archive, with badge numbers of officers. I responded with "active for the entire shift, un-mutable & shut-offable. You can remove it for breaks (food, toilet, etc) but if you don't have one, you don't work with the public at any point.".
If true the audio can be recovered with another FOIA Request of the video
@@chrisbudesa they would not release the redacted audio with another FIOA request. They always attach an excuse to the documented FIOA request when it is upheld, redacted or denied. I don't know the reason in this situation, but I'm not naive enough to think they redacted it bc they thought the original FIOA requester didn't want it.
@@chrisbudesa Unfortunately the only way to get the unmuted version is by a court order!
When a Police Dept mutes certain conversations among themselves, that proves that they are wrong, it's tampering with evidence, and they should be arrested for it !!!!!
As a former correctional officer, I'm disgusted with the lack of education/intelligence of these officers. These are officers who will get people killed/disabled. Know your rights! Our freedom is under attack, and this happens every day in our country! Thankfully, I worked for a man who led by example and demanded common sense!! I won't call him out because I respect him.
Great job ,I enjoy your videos it realy opened my eyes up.I was a corrections officer for 19 years.We treated everyone with respect because in america your innocent till proven guilty.I would hear stories from the inmates of unlawful arrest alot but until you see it ,You dont understand that the problem is much bigger then i ever beleived.
Absolutely disgusting!
That many pigs are needed for a suspicious person call ???? WTF
remember, the police called the police, ofc they gonna respond like this
one complaint is called in and the cops always expand the truth by saying , we had multiple complaints from neighbors just to cover their arses
This happens in the US dozens of times a day.
Wow, just wow! That chief has no business dealing with the public or being in any position of authority over anyone!
Point me to a chief that should have authority over people.
The fat-azz "chief" had a hot burrito sitting on his desk waiting to be eaten. Boy, was he pissed!
he exemplifies the word pig to me the moment he laughed at the word rights.
@@barrysims9906 Bingo. I hope he gets his. People on power trips need the fuck beat out of them.
Three STOOGES 🤡🤡🤡
LOL
Handcuffed and in the back seat of a cop car... sounds like an arrest to me
Take the complaint, to a higher tier, above that department
There was so much wrong with this detainment
Muted microphones constitute conspiracy
Don't forget evidence tampering.....
That lack of cars or concern.sad.
There goes "Presumption of Innocence" right out the window.
How does a cop hear, "What is your reasonable, articulable suspicion" from a subject and not stop for even a single beat to make sure he's got everything right? Because that subject obviously knows what's going on better than the cop does, and is keeping score. And seriously? How can he with a straight face say he's not under arrest? He's in cuffs, locked in the back of a cruiser, unable to leave, and his property was removed from his pocket. So which one is it, an arrest or an illegal seizure of his property? Because it has to be one or the other.
"We're trying to figure out what's going on." I would argue that you better make sure you know what's going on before you have a subject cuffed and stuffed.
False imprisonment
It's considered "detention" when you are seized against your will, cuffed, searched, and thrown in the back of a police car.
It's not an arrest until they have reasonable suspicion of you committing a crime. And this is important, there's literally no way for someone innocently walking down the street to know the difference between a lawful arrest or detention and unlawful arrest or detention until after the cuffs are on.
These cops really weren't terrible. Compared to most these guys were great and didn't frame the person for daring to be upset he, while innocently going about his business was stopped and detained.
That's what usually happens when they accidentally grab the wrong person and then in fear of a lawsuit decide to stack every single charge they can think of on some poor schmuck who did nothing wrong but be in public.
There's two main things wrong with modern policing today. Subjects who think they have rights they really don't and the type of people they hire to be cops.
It's not well known but the psychological testing they do on recruits isn't to protect the public so much. Mostly it's just to identify the petty controlling narcissistic morons and put badges on them. They've literally fought in court repeatedly for the right to turn down anyone who isn't a petty vindictive moron.
What modern policing has turned into is the inevitable result of decades of intentionally dredging the bottom of the barrel when it comes to police recruits. Petty controlling narcissistic morons are always going to do what they do. They're always going to think they're smarter than and better than everyone else and they're not the type to ever admit they were wrong. Most would rather lie under oath and send an innocent person to prison than ever admit they were wrong.
You take societies worst and put badges on them they're going to do what they do.
Still instead of trying to stop it we do the opposite. Our prosecutors encourage cops to use their badges against anyone they don't like. They tell them what lies to tell to make the charges stick and when they screw up instead of charging the cops they tell them the things they should have said instead.
Cops are going to butt heads with the public who for some reason is constantly told they have rights they don't really have. There's literally nothing a cop can't do to you just by saying the right magic words first. The only difference between a lawful arrest and an "unlawful" arrest is what the cop says first. The only difference between a lawful shooting and an execution is whether the cops said the right things before after the shooting. If they say the right things they can literally shoot a toddler holding a video game controller and get away with it.
Your "rights" are a cheap magic trick. You believe you have them through the power of suggestion but at any moment a magician can make them disappear in cloud of smoke. It's not right, it's not fair, but sadly it's just how it is until people demand better.
@@edwardscott3262 Wow, a novel of word salad there OFFICER!!!!
@@AlBundyOz He didn't sound like he was defending cops to me. It sounded like he was one of "us" to me. After saying things like, "What modern policing has turned into is the inevitable result of decades of intentionally dredging the bottom of the barrel when it comes to police recruits. Petty controlling narcissistic morons are always going to do what they do. They're always going to think they're smarter than and better than everyone else and they're not the type to ever admit they were wrong. Most would rather lie under oath and send an innocent person to prison than ever admit they were wrong," and finished with "It's not right, it's not fair, but sadly it's just how it is until people demand better." What part of what he said could possibly be interpreted as supporting cops? Or are you just trolling us trying to play a part as stupid as your namesake?
How? Because qualified immunity. They don’t pay for lawsuits so they don’t care.
Based on everything that I have seen and heard there are two things that cops like this treat like gospel truths: 1) All suspects match the description. 2) Everyone is a suspect until proven innocent.
To be fair, colours are hard. Red, blue, grey, it's all the same.
@@BengalCatChilli Unless it's "blue," you mean? That's the only color they seem to be able to differentiate from the rest.
@@newshodgepodge6329 🤣🤣
Why I say that handcuffs = arrest. If you are cuffed they have every intention of charging you with a crime. They just need some time to figure out what that crime is, but at least they have you cuffed.
They don’t have a clue what they are doing
I would demand to be booked for the supposed crime. It wouldn't be over. I would contact the FBI and file a complaint for a violation of my civil rights.
I remember about 30 years ago in a small town I lived in, justice was done. There was a young man who got in with the wrong crowd and got into trouble for a while. He finally realized that he didn’t want that kind of life anymore and went clean, got a job and minded his own business.
Well, there was a tyrannical cop who followed him everywhere and harassed him by pulling him over every time he was seen driving. And he didn’t just harass him, he was known to harass anyone who he felt like giving grief.
Some of the young man’s former acquaintances in that life were also family and they continued with that lifestyle. They found out about the harassment and went to the cops house one evening after finding out where he lived. They knocked on his door late and he answered.
They pulled him out into his front yard and beat the living hell out of him until he was bloodied and unconscious.
The harassment stopped.
Beautiful. The story thrilled me to no end.
Too bad that doesn't happen more often
Whilst I would never endorse violence, this behaviour is almost certainly going to elicit retaliation. Officer safety will become a real issue and if they do nothing about correcting these situations, there will be an open season on uniforms. The war of Independence was fought to free Americans from this type of oppression.