HOMESCHOOL MATH CURRICULUM FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL | Pick the Best Math Curriculum for Your Teen
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- HOMESCHOOL MATH CURRICULUM FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL | Pick the Best Math Curriculum for Your Teen
Today I'm sharing what I have learned about 7 popular math programs for pre-algebra and above in the homeschool world. My daughter will be starting pre-algebra next school year and I want to pick something that will work well for her as she finished up her middle school math and enters into high school.
Since I was researching for myself, I decided to share all that I learned with you! Hopefully it's helpful to all of you who are trying to figure this out for your own homeschools.
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00:00 Introduction
01:50 Math Curriculums I'll Be Researching and What I'm Looking For
02:40 CTC Math
05:20 Mr. D Math
09:15 Denison Algebra
11:30 Thinkwell Homeschool
15:15 Nicole the Math Lady
18:05 Shormann Math
20:45 Teaching Textbooks
25:40 Which Ones Will We Try and Why?
28:10 Conclusion
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Math Comparison Spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
CTC Math: www.ctcmath.com/
Mr. D Math: mrdmath.com/
Denison Algebra: www.denisonalgebra.com/
Thinkwell Homeschool: www.thinkwellhomeschool.com/
Nicole the Math Lady: nicolethemathlady.com/
Shormann Math: diveintomath.com/shormann/
Teaching Textbooks: www.teachingtextbooks.com/
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Use this link to get 1/2 of CTC math! I didn't know this is an option for homeschoolers: www.ctcmath.com/purchase/homeschool50?tr_id=PH
We just started using Denision Math about a month ago. So far, I really like the way he teaches and the set-up. I like that he works out every problem with them, that it has a book that the problems need to be written down in and he teaches them to circle their answers. Other online math, my kids have a tendency to try to solve all the problems in their head while Denision has you get in the habit of writing everything down. We used Nicole the Math Lady with Saxon the last two years. Although she does a great job explaining the lessons and I love the automatic grading, the lessons were long, and my kids complained about it. We did Teaching Texbooks for two years prior to Saxon, and I didn't feel they were retaining what they learned
All that is do great to hear as I’m considering this math for my other daughter in the 2024-2025 school year. It sounds like what she might need!
I’m having issue with teaching textbooks too.
I’ve also had that problem… I ended up making my boys use the workbook for TT and then enter their answers into the program when they were done… only way to get them to write down their work.
I found your channel on a Facebook page, and am so so grateful for finding it. This has been the best math curriculum video that I have found yet. I can’t wait to dive more into your channel ❤
Thank you so much for hopping over! Hopefully you will find lots of helpful videos to help you with your homeschool! Feel free to ask any questions you may have along the way.
Your spreadsheet is amazing! Thank you for making this video. Definitely helps me save time in doing the research.
Great! Thank you for watching. Can’t wait to hear what you end up picking!
This was so helpful! Thank you for sharing all your research! Looking forward to hearing what your daughter chose.
So… this video was out last year. We went with Thinkwell Math. In todays video I actually talk about how that went for her and what I’m choosing to use with her next year (and why): czcams.com/video/u5pPKMMHnn0/video.htmlsi=98qGkzqxACSumf28
Thanks for that! because it is so time-consuming when researching curriculum for your kids.
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve been researching Denison for Algebra…thank you for this!
You are welcome!
This was SO helpful! Thank you! I hadn't heard of Denison Alegebra, but want to look at that one now. My son is not mathy and we have been using Teaching Textbooks, but now I feel I have a better idea of some of the other programs out there.
Yay! Glad it was helpful! I know that looking through things like this really helps me make better decisions for my specific kids, so I'm so happy it's helping others too.
This is an excellent comparison, thank you!! I’d love to hear more as you go along about what your daughter chose and how it is going. I was considering a couple of these as well and have it narrowed down to AoPS or Thinkwell for prealgebra.
Thank you! And I talk about what she chose and why in this video :) czcams.com/video/QBTlGkZqgzo/video.html
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool Perfect! I’ll check it out 😊
😘WONDERFUL video - Thank you for all you do!
Thank you!
This video was SO very helpful, thank you! You saved us from our math frustrations and for that I am eternally grateful :) My middle-schooler has struggled with math and pre-algebra has been the bane of our existence! He has ADD and forgets a lot of what he learns, which really bums him out and gives him anxiety about math. Denison Math looks like the right fit and I can't wait to start it with him!! Thanks again.
Side note: I almost purchased Shormann Math for him and it seems great, but I'm so glad I didn't based off of the sole fact that it's quite rigorous and he already finds math quite challenging!
So glad I could help you make a more informed decision. That probably would not have gone well! I can only imagine my struggling math daughter trying to do that! Close call!
I was wondering if you can give an update. thanks
Hi! So, if you want to let me know exactly what you want an update on, I’d be happy to do it. But I’m going to assume on Thinkwell Math since that’s what my daughter picked. She has been doing it about 3 weeks at this point. It’s going fine :) She hasn’t said much about it and I haven’t asked because I just want her to get used to it. She does have questions that she needs to ask me and so far we have been able to figure out. I guess I do remember some pre-algebra 😊 Or I’m learning along the way. I feel like the amount of work is good and she might be struggling a bit just because we moved from Teaching Textbooks that is known for being less advanced. I will be creating a full review after she has used it solidly for a while. But we are definitely not there yet.
Great video, thank you so much and God bless you
Thank you!
We have been using CTC Math and Saxon. We have a couple of more years before we will need pre-algebra. Thanks for sharing all of these different options. God bless ❤
Thank you for watching!
YOU ARE DOING SAXON AND CTC? HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
@@nilsame7922 we use CTC math for practice when needed.
I used Mr D math with my 8th grader for pre-algebra. The content prepared him well for algebra 1. However, we had some issues with teacher support... I found the assistant to be rather snarky. I personally emailed him myself one time after an especially snarky reply to my son asking for help. We didn't go back bc of that.
Oh no! That’s not great. Thank you for sharing. Hopefully Mr. D resolved that issue!
Oh my, snarky? That sounds terrible. Did you contact CS or anything to tell them about your experience? What did they say?
We started our homeschool journey 11 years ago using Math Mammoth. Then switched to The Good and the Beautiful. We recently switched to Saxon using the My Math Assistant program(like NTML) and it has been amazing! I plan to have them do Shormann for high school.
We have also used Math Mammoth a bit throughout. I've never heard of My Math Assistant. Thanks for sharing!
I was coming here to mention MyMathAssistant - a Saxon program. Its creator is our family friend, and we are very happy with it!
We’ve done mr D and NTML & both have been great-but my math assistant is excellent.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
We did horizon math in the beginning and TT from 3to about 6th grade, but my 7/8th grader really struggled with pre algebra (he does have ADHD and ASD), so we have signed up for CTC math for the whole family this year. At least for my 2 oldest. I will probably keep my youngest in TT this year. We'll see. I loved the idea of Math with Mr. D but it was just too pricey for us :( I also liked unlock math, but it was too much too.
Some of these math programs are pricey… totally agree!
This was great! Thank you!!
You are welcome! Are you looking for your oldest or just casually?
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool mainly casually since I’m a homeschool video junkie but also to see what we should go with for the high school years.
@@TheChan7 lol! Junkie over there too!
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool it’s our downfall ;)
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool I also really enjoy your content 😘
I’ve heard of mr D maths but not looked into it!!! We need self paced courses as well!!! We looked at Saxon for my son but we went with Singapore math as we wanted it to not be too long!!! Shore man sounds awesome as it includes geometry!!! We need life applications with math!!!
Right! I feel like I might have liked math more if I had known the why…
Did you end up using Mr. D? I'm debating between Mr. D and Denison for son #2. We tried Schormann, that is definitely not a good fit for my family. My oldest switched to Denison at Christmas for algebra 1, and it's amazing! However, I'm not sure it's what my second son needs. (Although I'll most likely use it, I'm highly considering Mr. D too.)
My daughter hated Saxon so we tried CTC math. It did not have enough review built in. We switched to teaching textbooks. My daughter tested at mid 10th grade when she was in 8th on a standardized test. She likes it.
One of my kids goes to public school and when he switched to this school from a charter he switched from Saxon to Everyday Mathematics. The principle stated vehemently that Saxon is behind.
Thank you for adding to the conversation. It's always great to get a variety of information about how these programs worked for other people.
I also have a child who dislikes maths. We are using Masterbooks Principles of Mathematics 1 at the moment and so far it is going well. There is an academy course that goes with it. We did the trial lessons and it was very good. The videos were about 10 minutes and covered what was in the text. For some reason my daughter decided not to have the videos. It has saved money and it seems to be fine without videos so far. But maybe for POM 2 we will use the videos. The books are about $60 and the academy course is about $60 so not as expensive as some options. I have also recently found out about Denison Algebra and it looks very good. I will probably seriously look into it for algebra.
Thank you for sharing another alternative! I did not know they had videos to go with the course. That is interesting. I did look at that course too. I’m glad there are so many options out there, cause… sometimes it feels like it’s hard to find one that works :) I’m definitely considering Denison Algebra when my struggle math student is ready for pre-algebra.
This was such a helpful comparison! I’m guessing the price for Nicole the math lady does not include the actual Saxon math curriculum?
That is correct… add about $100 for a new book. But of course you can buy used and re-use or sell the book when you’re finished… but yes, an extra initial expense.
have a look at white rose math as well. ;)
Oh… I will. Haven’t heard of that one!
Thank you so much for this! I’ve never heard of Denison Algebra and I’m very intrigued after watching the sample videos for pre-algebra. It seems very promising for my struggling son. We were planning on just sticking with Teaching Textbooks, but after years with it I think he needs a change and I think he will enjoy this teacher. I wish I had learned some of the chants and tricks he uses. It would have made things so much easier in high school.
Glad it was helpful! Hopefully you have found a good match! I am also interested in this for my struggling 7th grader in the future!
I’ve started my struggling student in pre algebra a month ago and it has really been great. He told us last week math used to be his least favorite and now it’s his favorite subject. He is doing great and Mr. Denison is a great teacher.
That is so great to hear!
This was super helpful! I don’t know if you forgot, or if I missed it, but does Shorman math have a physical book? We are planning to use Saxon next year with my son in pre-algebra 😊
Thank you! Good question. I believe it is either a PDF or online format.
You can print out the pdf student book and parent solutions manual. No physical books
I use ACE Paces math for my oldest. He struggles with math due to ADD. Computer based learning is not a good fit for him. ACE makes it much less overwhelming for him, breaking everything down into very small pieces and has frequent review of previous concepts.
That's great it's working for him!
Hi everoyne
We have a $100 scholarship for siblings for math courses with Mr. D Math!
Hello,
How do we get this scholarship? I have 2 boys and first year homeschooling. One going into 6th and 8th love math .
I am surprised that Math-U-see isn't there. We tried Teaching Textbook and CTC math. Although they are very convenient for parents (self-taught and auto-grading), my kids had trouble retaining the information. I have been using Math-U-See for my son (Epsilon last year & pre-algebra this) and used it for my daughter last year (algebra). Math is her weakness, and even Math u see was a struggle, so for geometry, we did Learn Math fast his year. It was okay, but I wished I had taken Denison! Maybe for Algebra 2...
I actually thought about it, but I only really looked at what I was considering for that particular child :)
@Emma Lee, have you made a decision on what to use for your daughter next year? I also have a daughter that struggles in math and was thinking about moving her into Math U See and trying to stay with that until she graduates. Switching creates struggles too. 😕 I hadn't heard of Dennison until this video and I'm curious.
@@MichelleL83 for Geometry this year, we did Learn Math Fast., as Math U see would have been to much for her. We reviewed geometry from elementary til high school. Learn Math Fast doesn’t go in depth, but was way enough for my daughter. For Algebra 2, we decided to go with Denison. Will see… with my son, we have been doing Math U see for 3 years. We just finished pre-algebra, and started Algebra 1 this week. It works very nicely for him, so we will keep using it.
@@emmalee9302 Thank you! Do you watch the lessons with both of your children mentioned above? Right now I'm sitting through the lesson and problems with my 9th grader and it's taking us 1.5-2 hours per lesson for definitions, flash cards, lecture with notes, and problems. It's too much for her. We are using Shormann math,. She likes it, but is not retaining and then gets too frustrated.
@@MichelleL83 it is definitely too much! I do seat down with them. For my son, I watch the video with him and do the worksheet with him the first day, then he does the work on his own and I go over with him. We have a white board on the wall, and it is our best friend during math. We redo every wrong answer on the board together, and if still not mastered, gave him more examples. For geometry with my daughter, there were no videos, I sat dow with her, we read the lesson together and did the work together or sat down next to her and helped her when II saw she was getting frustrated. To limit her frustration, I told her to not stay more than 2-3 minutes on problem. If she is stuck, I tell her to stop and we do it together, then give her a similar one to do on her own. I think she was able to retain the information for the test, but would be unable to redo it now. But, she won’t be in a math field, in college, so. I big deal to me. At least we survived Geometry 🤣
I was really looking into Mr. D Math for my daughter but I felt it was so hard to really figure it out haha.
Do you mean from the demo? It is a bit hard to get around.
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool yeah. It just confused me. But I did like what I saw. I’m still finishing out this video! Lots of good information!
Thank you!
What was hard about it?
Just the way it was set up. Not super user friendly.
CTC math gives homeschoolers $148.50/year at 50% off, and I’m using for pre-algebra next school year.
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing! I love the family membership option.
They also sometime have a free 6 month offer during the school year.
That’s so great!
I came across "Understanding Pre-Algebra" from the Critical Thinking Co. I wonder if you have any feedback about this book. Is it a full curriculum, is it average, basic etc. Thank you!
Honestly, I have not really looked into this until you question. It does look a like full curriculum to me, but I know nothing other than the Critical Thinking Company is a good one and their curriculum can be challenging.
Which curriculum do you think works best with the application? You said that TT and Saxon do not do this. Thanks!
Can you clarify what you mean "best with the application"? Do you mean which of these is the easiest to implement? If that is your question, really, there is no best. There is best for your family, your current stage of life, and your child. These things can change from year to year. For example, I'm a mom to 4 kids, and 3 of them tend to need me more one on one for math. With all the other things I am teaching them, I really can't do that. So I need something that will teach my kids math, and mark their work, and I can come along side to help when they get stuck on a question or two... This particular child I am researching for, is my most advanced math student and she does need as much help as my other students. So I need her to be taught, challenged a little bit (but not too much), and have her work marked (because I know that I will not get to regular marking of math work). Hope this helps.
Why is upper level math so expensive?!?! I had sticker shock as I was researching.
I know! I guess it's more the online things. If you are willing to let them teach themselves or you teach them out a of textbook, than it's cheaper.
We tried Shormann's Algebra 1 course and were very disappointed. The lectures were very long, unengaging, and were inadequate for the problem set that followed. They also have an "absolutely no refunds" policy. We paid the extra and went back to Nicole the Math Lady.
Oh no! That is no fun at all. I hear so much good about that program, but it did not look like a good fit for that very reason (long lectures).
Teaching Textbooks only goes as far as 7th?
No… it goes up until at least pre-calculus. But, I choose teaching textbooks for her and I wanted her to have a chance to choose what she thinks would work best for herself in the pre-algebra and up.
Mr D math offers a returning student and a sibling discount. It's $100 off.
That is great! Thank you for sharing!
Denison has been on my radar for a while. Hope really dislikes math. When the time comes we will most likely be giving it a whirl.
I am feeling like it might be the best for my struggling math student as well!
Do you know anything about these math programs? Or, any other people should consider for pre-algebra and up?
My daughter likes unlock math. I’m thinking either unlock math, mrD or Denison for my son.
Thanks for sharing! I honestly just heard about unlock math a few days ago. It is definitely on the more expensive end. Do you know of any sales or deals that might have throughout the year?
@@CalmintheChaosHomeschool They do have some sales throughout the year, but I can't recall when. You might want to check out their referral program if you end up using it. I signed up for it, but I don't have a vlog or blog, etc, so I haven't benefited from it. I like their sibling discount plus their trial and guarantee. You can also switch a student back and forth between any of the courses. The student can also contact them for live math help during their open hours. I like their customer service as well. :)