I BOUGHT A GMC Envoy XUV: The FAILED Convertible SUV/Truck
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- It took one really good commercial for me to be hooked on the 2004 GMC Envoy XUV and for years I've searched for the right one at the right price. This one was perfect, an okay price, with okay miles, and just broken enough for it to be a fun project (bonus: it's all the common problems). GMC built this convertible SUV/truck to be the only vehicle you needed to own, it was supposed to do anything, go anywhere with it's 4wd, and still get reasonable gas mileage from the 4.2L Inline 6. Instead it was a dud, either the marketing didn't connect with anyone else or the price tag was a show stopper, but they only ended up selling 27,200 units. This brought huge downsides because it has tons of special parts and there is no reason for anyone to make or keep the parts on hand for them. I absolutely love it, so we're going to fix everything and kick it on down the road for the next person to enjoy.
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The Vortec 4200 is clearly an inline 6, but they're so rare I just get into the habit of thinking it's a V6. Might see an inline 6 in my shop once every 3 years. 🍻
I was shocked to see these were running straight sixes. Much respect. 🍻
I had a Trailblazer with the Atlas Series 4200 inline 6. The engine was ok, but since it's such a tall engine the front diff sits next to the oil pan and the half shaft runs through the oil pan. When that starts leaking its an s.o.b. to pull it all apart and get it fixed. Just aweful.
Ive got a 05 envoy with the 4.2 30k miles so far and no problems with the motor. Suspension is toast tho. *30k miles ive put on it car has 191k*
You need a Quadrasteer truck next!
@@tengu190 I soooo need a Quadrasteer, adding to my search list! 💯💯💯
“It was ahead of its time and that means it doesn’t need to exist” I really love that JR 😂
Studebaker Wagonaire. 40 years earlier
@@olikat8 Tailgate idea from the full sized 1965 Ford, but hinged on the wrong side and poorly designed tethers.
Like when the iPhone came out?
@@FirstNameLastName-ev3jk ok, it was dry humor.
@@olikat8 I had the Wagonaire Matchbox, came with a hunter and a dog.
I have a Envoy XUV V8 SLT! I had to do the same fixes so contact me if you have any questions. In your scan tool you can get to a screen that shows current actuator values. Either of handles/switches that opens/closes is probably in the open state. This means it won't allow you to activate either because it still thinks its trying to open the door or tailgate. Once those are replaced you can hear it try to move the 3 actuators. They are unfortunately ~$110 each on eBay to replace BUT you can open them up and clean and re-grease the plastic gears. There is a spring that returns the latch to close and worm gear that opens them. Yours are currently stuck open as the spring can't return the latch to closed.
I also have an envoy xuv V8 SLT, but the rear window and midgate window won't go up. Need to find out how to fix that issue.
@@MiztahDizastaah so the midgate won't go up if it doesn't recognize that it's in the "closed" position. I believe there is a sensor to determine if it's resting flat or up so thhat you can't actuate the glass when it's down. I had to jump some sensors to troubleshoot my midgate. The rear glass won't go up for the same reason if it doesn't know what position the door is in. The rear glass also won't raise if the roof is forward. You may have to use a Tech 2 or equivalent scan tool to do a roof relearn procedure.
@@nate51595 you’re a legend for helping people out 🤟🏽
Rear window and roof works via the key but not the button. Thinking about buying this one but not sure if it's just a bad switch or not.
Does the sliding roof have a fuse. I’m trying to open and it’s not even showing on the dashboard with a error. Could it be a fuse?
I used to have a 2004 XUV SLT with the same color. This vehicle is so practical that it deserved much more attention.
I have a 04 XUV SLT that has the lighter silver color, and the 5.3, great truck. has some electronic gremlins im still sorting out, but a great vehicle.
I love these so much. Shame this design didn’t catch on. Who doesn’t love a double-hinged tailgate and a retractable roof?!
Right, it has so many cool (broken) tricks up it's sleeve 🔥
@@WatchJRGo unique features mean unique fixes!
@@ElliottAlvis does unique mean weird?? 🙄
Or unique meaning a lame gimmick with few if any practical applications. God GM has just always made terrible cars.
Retractable roof, like sports stadiums of the same era!
I MISS MY XUV...IT WAS THE ABSOLUTE BEST!!!..everyone always asked where I got it from and what year it was and I had mine in 2016 until someone ran a red light and totalled it...it had less than 100,000 miles
I had a 2005 XUV and I loved it. It was fully loaded and was a great vehicle.
Incredibly, I saw one of these on the road today. My family thought I was nuts when I described how it works, and I kinda wondered if I hadn't dreamed its existence.
I always thought this would be a great hooptie for Hoovie to have on his channel.
Beware of the aftermarket motors for the roof, midgate and rear windows. We got some that were wired wrong and it drove the computer crazy. A really good diagnostic guy stuck with me to get everything done.
I remember being at the auto show with my parents in the early 2000s, everyone wanted to open the tailgate both ways. So cool.
Damn, this brought me back. I had one for a few years (2010-2013) and absolutely loved it! The tailgate had issues, the roof leaked, and tons of other issues, but man it was great!
Problems problems problems
John Ross, the original was actually the studebaker wagonaire that came out in 1963. I have one and it is cool.
I saw one of those long ago, didn't remember who made it
I remember when this truck came out , my uncle still has his 2004 gmc evony xuv , in great condition still, I'm now looking for one two Now
My stepmom had one of these, and she wore it out! It was great for hauling around two golden retrievers cause it didn’t matter if the back got filthy with dog hair. And hers had more options, including leather, steering wheel buttons, and air suspension. It always reminded me of sitting behind the wheel of my own truck.
These are great motors, one down fall on 04 and older ones is valve seats and the head bolts breaking when removing.
Reminds me of the Studebaker wagon of the 60's that had the retractable roof.
Me, too :)
I mentioned that also above.
My old boss used to work for GM when they were building these. He said they were a nightmare as far as leaks. He said probably 70% of them had bad roof leaks bad enough that they failed quality inspections.
So funny that u showed the over head console with the switches, this was the first project I worked on with GM out of college! Cool concept but might not had a need for it but GM was all about trying to be innovative and trying to create a new market.. Keep up the awesome vids! 💪
4.2 INLINE 6! Great video though man. Keep it up!
I heard that “V6” too 👂
How does Jr not have a pressure washer 😂 he could've bought several with how much he spends at the carwash I bet lol
So true. I wonder if he just likes leaving whatever oily mess it creates there instead of at his place. Not sure if his warehouse has an in-floor drain. Haven't noticed in his videos.
Absolutely love this thing! Cant wait so see you work on it.
Yes for more OG flip videos! So excited for all the content to come.
I love my $600 04 GMC Envoy XUV SLT V8. Great family road trip vehicle with pets which are usually to Vermont in the winter and rides like an old Cadillac on the beach. I'll never ever sell it either. The previous owner loved it too but her mechanic told her the engine was seized so she left it parked and after cleaning the battery terminals it started right up after sitting for a year and I've completely gone through it and have five trouble free years so far.
this was all the standard equipment for the 2004 Envoy SLE (base)
• 4.2L I-6 Engine
• 4-spd auto w/OD Transmission
• 275 @ 6,000 rpm Horsepower
• 275 @ 3,600 rpm Torque
• Rear-wheel Drive type
• 17" silver aluminum Wheels
• Front air conditioning, dual zone manual
• AM/FM/Satellite-prep, seek-scan Radio
• Keyfob (all doors) Remote keyless entry
• Front Fog/driving lights
• Premium cloth Seat trim
• Driver Lumbar support
----THE SLT ADDED------
• 17" machined aluminum Wheels
• Front air conditioning, dual zone automatic
• Rear air conditioning, with separate controls
• Heated mirrors
• Leather Seat trim
• Driver and passenger Lumbar support
I remember these cars and I always through they were so cool. The thought of it being a XUV was an innovative item
Love that you opened with the old commercial haha. So awesome. GM commercials were ridiculous during this period.
I saw one of these brand new in Malvern Pennsylvania in 2004 and the guy who bought it was so proud of it, showing off the back to everyone.
I think this truck is fantastic, very clever. I love how the rear roof retracts.
I own one of these! Love the oddity of it, and it's been really useful.
Seeing those Tokyo drift arcade cabinets reminded me of playing cruisin USA back in the day. Such a good game.
Fuck I remember playing cruisin USA when I was a kid on family vacation, the resort we went to every year had an arcade room and I was so stoked
I always loved the idea of this vehicle! So cool you got one!
I have a 2007 TrailBlazer with the 4.2, and I love it! I like mine too because it's the LS (base model), but has 4wd, so it has everything I need for living in the northeast, but no extra frills. These things are tanks in the winter. Mine only has 92k, but most around my area are trashed by now, usually close to or over 200k, and super rusty and not taken care of, which is sad. I love these vehicles, they're capable, simple, reliable, and tough. There's an Envoy XUV I see driving around my area, and I always stare as I go by, but sadly it's pretty rough, like the rest of them.
I’m in Alabama and have a package in Memphis for a week that was next day air. I could have walked there and back by now
Basically all packages are stuck in Memphis, I have 4 deliveries there 😬
Memphis is where packages go to die. I've lost all sorts of stuff there with USPS and FedEx
Also waiting for some equipment for work that is stuck at the FedEx Memphis Morgue.
Same I have a package that got there Feb 19th and has not moved sense.. payed for 2 day express shipping
It's sad I live in Memphis
You just brought back memories. My uncle had one of these brand new for 3 months before my cousin flipped it on an on-ramp. Other than that, I’ve only ever seen one other in real life (2015) and I got way too excited to see one of these mediocre unicorns.
You always do a fantastic job with the B-roll.
I have a 2006 GMC Envoy XL and I absolutely love it. Great point a to b and extremely comfortable
My wife had one for 10 years. She gave it to our 16 year old son and he is happy with it. Reliable rig
I had one of these and it's very useful to me, it was confortable and reliable to me so I really enjoyed it for about 6yrs
Had one from 2007 to 2020. Loved it when everything worked. Had problems with the roof, midgate window, and rear window. Great at towing the race car trailer too.
I had always wanted one of those! I had a Trailblazer with the inline 6. Great motor!
Didn't even know this was a thing until seeing this video. Pretty cool design. These dual purpose SUV / XUV really come in handy for someone with a family but also occasionally need to pick up larger items.. Have a beat up '01 grey clad ugly as sin Aztek. The rear gate drops down and the rear seats pull out to fit a 4 X 8 sheet of plywood. Must have been a unwritten 'goal' they had for their XUV models.
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The GMC Envoy.
The Studebaker Wagonaire revisited, with the addition of 4wd.
Very interesting SuV hope to see it working properly soon.
Great pick👍.
Probably the first vehicle you've bought that made me think about buying one for myself. I didnt realize that the Envoy had so many cool features.
Super cool. I recently bought a 05 xuv envoy with 67k. In love with it! Everything works as of now except fuel gauge doesn't work and light stays on. Other than that super cool fun vehicle 🍻
W😳W, this will make some more great content! Can’t wait to watch you wrenchin on this one. Keep the great content comin👍
That's really cool. Didn't even know these existed over here in England! Very nice truck/car/vehicle thing!
That's so cool! This is the kind of innovation that i like. Not another super sporty uncomfortable suv. Looks amazing
Wow, somehow I missed this! How cool, I'd love to have one!
Stuff like this is why I love you and Hoovie
Thank you for the great content, keep it up!
Ah yes a good ole Envoy, I love mine and it’s a 2006 Envoy SLT and I got it as my first car from my grandparents
I feel like this would be a perfect car to mount a camera in for moving car shots “Top Gear” style.
I always thought they would make great, factory ready made, hearses.
That's what my wife said when she first saw one. We just bought an '04 XUV and it's great!
I got my '02 Envoy for $1200 CDN a couple years ago, It had misfire issues and had been sitting for a while. I followed a bunch of the tricks you use in your videos to fix it up. I got lucky and it just needed a couple coil packs and a new fan clutch to get it going. Great daily/camping vehicle, gonna put a (small) lift on it soon to further improve it's off-roading.
My sister had one of these in dusty New Mexico, and when home in North Carolina complained that the tailgate would only open from the side, and not in the "tailgate" position. I theorized that the car's computer had to know the position of the back glass, so with only a screwdriver, I removed the interior trim panel from the tailgate. Reaching into the recesses of the tailgate, by feel, I found two optical sensors with plastic lenses - about the size of a penny. I wiped them clean, reassembled the trim, and then the tailgate operated normally in all modes.
Another great video; was expecting to see some diag but I will wait for the next vid :)
Need to find the GMC truck that had quad steer
Some silverado/gmc 1500 ran it in 04-09
JR I see these come through the auction here in Georgia ever so often and if they are in decent condition they bring big money! I haven’t watch the series on yours yet but I’m about to do some binge Watching can’t wait to see how this turns out!
I had a 2008 Envoy SLT. I have wanted the XUV for so long. Mine had 200k miles when I sold it. Great running truck!!
Early early video John Ross ! Cool find man like the suv line up
JR I'm like you. I've always liked this. I think you should keep this one and fix it up. It is rare but being GM shouldn't be too bad to do. Im glad youre doing so much better since job loss and keep doing your thing
bought one about 7 months ago to flip. was the 5.3 v8 and loaded, drove it back from san diego to phoenix and towed a impala l also bought back on a dolly, got 15 mpg. had the issue with the mid and endgates, rear roof would not retract. took the cover off the endgate and the issue was the regulator, bought an original gm one off of amazon for less than a used or after market of, took half an hour, it worked, code for module was gone. I removed the midgate regulator and rebuilt it by putting on new pulley, cables were fine and not frayed.
I have a 2004 SLT XUV with 200K miles. I have had it almost a year and a half. I've had to replace the midgate window regulator and ignition coils and plugs. I just lost a water pump (it wobbles like all the bearings fell out) so I'm replacing the belt, tension and idle pulleys, the pump and fan clutch. Lastly the front left wheel bearing is starting to howl. Despite all that, it looks brand new, rides great and is the most versatile vehicle I've owned. It's a keeper!
These were cool. I’ve always liked them. I love the fact that you buy cool and unique cars from the mid 2000’s.
God I love this thing. I have one of these fully optioned out except for air ride, with the V8, and only 66k miles. Everything works mint on mine, hurts to see the condition of this one. It’s the absolute best all around SUV/truck I could ever imagine owning. Did 3k miles a couple of months ago through the mountains and it ate those miles for breakfast. If you’ve ever seen buy this not that videos.... buy the XUV not a Chevy avalanche
This is an awesome snag! Def excited for this one!
Ya man those Riggs are soo cool I work in and out of dealerships ( vendor ) and remember those SUV’s and worked on a couple of them very innovative in it’s day !😎🇺🇸👍🏻
Awesome and very thoughtthrough design. There are a lot of great designs that had never a chance on the market....
Used to see alot of these driving around in mid 2000s always wondered about them.
"Sport Utility Wagon" is actually the correct term for it....My old '78 Cherokee was a "wagon" and this is similar so wagon.
As a Body man I’m so glad those didn’t catch on. Think about all the moving parts that have to be adjusted and aligned to work property, almost as bad as those origami hardtop convertibles. Luckily I haven’t had to work on the back of one… yet.
Mr. Willey was nice guy especially for someone in the car business. Moved lots of Caddies inside avoiding Hail during the extreme rain in 93. Pontiac’s were always left outside since the buyers were abundant during Hail sales.
I remember an Envoy XUV commercial with it having tall plants standing straight up out of the back, that's the one I remember about these trucks.
I hope you get it all working. Cool build.
I was always curious on those. For my small business I started it may be a perfect fit.
This should be a great revival. Cool truck to make content on.
Always wanted one, but never could get one in Texas. Now I am old and broken, but looking forward to seeing you fix it.
Pretty neat design I remember when these came out new
I knew a woman that had one of those, she bought and sold antiques as a sideline, and that allowed her to move tall things without having a truck.
I own a black 2004 Envoy XUV with the Denali package. Chrome everything, chrome perforated grill, touch screen, both headrests have video screens, only 123k miles in 2024. The tailgate & roof have become a nightmare! The key grab anti theft feature is also a nightmare. I had to pay a mechanic to teach me how to repo my truck because OnStar refused to unlock the key grab! I've had to figure out alot of quirks with this thing over the years. Also the condenser leaks- pours- water inside the passenger side behind the glove box and floods the floor when defrost or A/C is on. Thanks for the videos! You're very helpful!
These are very interesting vehicles, saw one on at my local dealership
Love your videos!! Are these vehicles going to be for sale at some point?
I've been driving a 2006 envoy for over 10 years now. Served us for years as a family truckster, now it's my work beater.
I remember when those were being phased out the local GMC dealer had tons of those at a huge discount
they still have em
I didn’t know these existed. Cool concept. Not bad commercial either.
Hey JR, I had a Buick one of those. Great engines but they tend to SLUDGE up, even with routine maintenance. Switch to Full Synthetic and run motor flush for 20 minutes thru it before the change. The VVT gets all weird if there are oil problems and the gage will tell you "reduced power". The oil sludges in the pickup tube and causes problems. With it being 4wd, it is 20 hours labor to drop the oil pan ( the front axle runs thru the pan ) I let a gallon of parts cleaner sit in mine ( drained all the oil first ) for 48 hours , to break up the pickup sludge. Drained it, then put new cleaner in for another 24 hours before I drained it again and put in new Mobile 1 Synthetic oil. Try to use the Stock GM filter as it handles the oil pressure better than all of the others. A Wix filter is second best and STP is third. The trans in these tend to die also. There was a recall where water got in from the dipstick tube seal. Change the fluid often and it should be ok. I really liked my Rainier but had to sell it when I couldn't find a buyer for my other car and couldn't keep both. 16.0 seconds in the 1/4. Not bad for a truck.
Every time I see one of these on the highway I think funeral hearse. 😂
My FIL just got rid of his 2002 envoy, with the V6. Bought it brand new and put 216,000 miles on it. Was a very reliable truck (until the frame rusted through in a few spots)!
Search Studebaker Wagonaire and you'll find a station wagon built from '63-'66, with a retractable roof to allow for carrying tall items. I saw one in Auburn Indiana in the National Auto and Truck Museum, with a refrigerator standing upright in the rear. What a great idea. This could be a feature on a pickup truck shell, both to allow carrying tall objects without removing the shell, and for loading things like motorcycles.
I had that truck and loved but once that tailgate stopped working nothing worked. Still one of my favorite designs
Great video. Always watch the channel.
You're a gearhead like me so I can't believe you called an inline 6 a V6....
Great video!
ThanQ for filming
Looked at an 04 yesterday and picking it up in half an hour. Full leather, heated power front seats. $3,100 and everything works
Wait until you see the cost of parts for one of these. I know someone had one. He called it the HUGE MISTAKE. Rear shocks were $1,200 Canadian each. The air suspension was standard on them here, and it was an expensive nightmare. So much for the ownership.
On the engineering front, the made the gate swing the wrong way for left hand drive traffic. As for innovation, the borrowed an idea from the 1965 Ford Country Squire/Country Sedan for the gate and the 1964 Studebaker Wagonaire for the roof and added the midgate from the Avalanche. They just made it so complicated that keeping it all working is a nightmare. My former boss' wife had an Envoy, and the electrical system was a joke. Light bulbs were bought in bulk. It was usual to change turn signal and brake light bulbs every 2-3 months and headlamps every 6 months. The one good thing is that the tailgate glass on yours is less likely to spontaneously shatter in cold weather, unlike the normal Envoy.
I might be in the minority on this but I still love these
My trans went on mine. My little brother bought from me. Swear I loved my envoy best for long distance traveling..smooth as silk!!!
Just got one I love it
I own one of these, best truck I have ever owned. I have the V8 model with 200k miles. With the 4.2, be aware, the oil pressure gauge is not accurate, or even real. The PCM only tells the gauge to reflect what it thinks it should read. Even if the PSI is almost nothing, it will read 40psi. The end gate latches are rebuildable, take em out, clean them, clean contacts, use a non oil based lubricant (graphite), and put it back together. The mid gate regulator is available from autozone and others, pretty easy to replace. Yours is an 05, first year of the power pedals. Fuel filter is in tank with the fuel pump. Would not be surprised if the CEL is for a CPAS, or a VVT.
The XUV was never sold in my country, but if it was I would think about buying one. Its a great concept.
I always thought the back looked clunky and ugly compared to its regular counterpart
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