Ginger Baker Reviews the Sounds of May 1970

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  • Blind Date with Cream drummer Ginger Baker. Ginger Baker reviews the sounds of May 1970.
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  • @bernieforkin2563
    @bernieforkin2563 Před 4 měsíci +124

    Ginger could start a fight in an empty room. 😂

  • @kgarrett1404
    @kgarrett1404 Před 4 měsíci +74

    These Blind Dates sometimes tell you more about the reviewer than the records!

  • @2009framat
    @2009framat Před 4 měsíci +33

    A story from around 1980 in Vienna: Baker gave a concert there. After the concert a young woman asked Baker if he could make a short visit to the birthday party of her boyfried who was the biggest Ginger Baker Fan of all time and started drumming lessons some months ago only because of him. The boyfriend could not attend the concert because he had to work and was only living 5 minutes from the concert hall. Baker appeared at the birthday party and congratulated the guy, played a 15 minutes solo on a cheap drum set and left after 10 minutes smalltalk with the guy.

  • @elmolewis9123
    @elmolewis9123 Před 4 měsíci +36

    Ginger never fails to amuse. Nice research.

  • @kevingilhooley2064
    @kevingilhooley2064 Před 4 měsíci +24

    Ginger must have been having a good day, as he almost half liked one of the tracks....more of Ginger please... he's a legend.

  • @not_enough_space
    @not_enough_space Před 4 měsíci +37

    "So I asked, 'Who's this?' And it was me." 😂

  • @kevhead1525
    @kevhead1525 Před 4 měsíci +64

    Self effacing doesn't make up for the sourness. A legend but more of a legend in his own mind.

    • @CarlDraper
      @CarlDraper Před 4 měsíci +5

      Can't take away anything from his drumming though, a legend in that field

    • @ovelonse
      @ovelonse Před 4 měsíci +1

      Sometimes remember me as the way kids uses to talk through

    • @williamr3840
      @williamr3840 Před 4 měsíci +2

      A legend in his own underpants! :0)

    • @SuperNevile
      @SuperNevile Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@williamr3840 Likes talking about himself a lot.....although he ended by saying he was egotistical.

    • @WeAreColorOfWater
      @WeAreColorOfWater Před 4 měsíci +5

      Being almost 70 and having grown up in the Los Angeles area, I’ve seen live, hundreds of bands and musicians.
      Including GB with Cream and everyone on his list.
      The Jazz-fusion shows I attended were on another level completely.
      Peter Baker was okay, but NOT as good as he thinks he was. Ian Paice with Deep Purple was humble, and far more impressive for playing early metal-rock in my book. GB’s narcissistic ego driven commentary revealed much about his very real insecurities.

  • @9thfloorchaos
    @9thfloorchaos Před 4 měsíci +35

    Thanks for posting! It’s good to have these Blind Dates back.

  • @kevhead1525
    @kevhead1525 Před 4 měsíci +40

    Elevator music King Crimson at the end. Ha!

    • @marysweeney7370
      @marysweeney7370 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Yeah, I wonder who did this version of KC?

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci +24

      ​@@marysweeney7370I recorded it myself.

    • @marysweeney7370
      @marysweeney7370 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@YesterdaysPapers Excellent! I love it!

    • @kevhead1525
      @kevhead1525 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@YesterdaysPapers listening to it again, I now see that it was a "Swinging London" rendition of those songs. Perfect.

    • @richardgrant418
      @richardgrant418 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@YesterdaysPapersI prefer your version. KC’s is so sombre/ doom laden as though something terrible is about to happen
      Yours is more subtle, intriguing and draws you in - where can we hear the full track and more?

  • @beezlus_
    @beezlus_ Před 4 měsíci +20

    been a while since a blind date, glad they back ! The amount of tunes I’ve added from blind dates in 67’ and 68’ is ridiculous… if there’s any you haven’t covered from those years I beg you to do more 😤

  • @paulcooper8818
    @paulcooper8818 Před 4 měsíci +54

    Peter Green's *_The Green Manalishi with the Two Pronged Crown_* is a stand out -- GB should have kept listening.
    Nice outro -- long live the king.

    • @johnsurrey7426
      @johnsurrey7426 Před 4 měsíci

      It’s a phenomenal record! If you don’t like it, the late Ginger, then shut up and go away.

    • @TundieRice
      @TundieRice Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ehh, he didn’t seem to be into most rock of the time (besides what he was playing) anyway. He seemed much more into jazz, blues and around this time Afrobeat like Fela Kuti and other Nigerian musicians.
      Even if it’s all very impressive to all of us, Mr. Baker would’ve probably found any way to shit on it, lol.

    • @danieleyre8913
      @danieleyre8913 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ginger didn’t like it. He was entitled to his opinion.

    • @philipbrougham6360
      @philipbrougham6360 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Can't believe he did not even like the fleetwood mac track ,,,the best one on here !

    • @SuperNevile
      @SuperNevile Před 4 měsíci +3

      I couldn't understand why it stalled at No.10 in the the UK charts. The previous three singles were at Numbers 1 and 2. Each of the singles were a different style and GM certainly was progressive. The vinyl had to be played loud to hear all the modes, so I guess Ginger's hearing was going down hill even at this stage. I still play it loud, and there was nothing like it in 1970.

  • @australianchartentries60sa35
    @australianchartentries60sa35 Před 4 měsíci +3

    What a hoot. Loved every minute of it. It’s no surprise what came out of Gingers mouth. He’s still a bloody legend in my eyes!

  • @mgconlan
    @mgconlan Před 4 měsíci +16

    Pete Johnson's "627 Stomp" was recorded November 11, 1940 with Johnson (piano), Oran "Hot Lips" Page (trumpet), Eddie Barefield (clarinet, alto sax), Don Stovall (alto sax), Don Byas (tenor sax), John Collins (guitar), Abe Bolar (bass) and A. G. Godley (drums). Also, what Elvin Jones really had to say about Ginger Baker RE his solo on "Toad" from Cream was, "They ought to make him an astronaut and lose his ass!" Jones had much nicer things to say about Keith Moon's playing on The Who's "Underture" to "Tommy": "Everything they play, he contains it."

    • @seanconlon2773
      @seanconlon2773 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Eddie Barefield had a regular gig at my neighborhood tavern in Greenpoint Brooklyn in the late 80's. A good player, but not in the best of health. Most of the time he sat while playing. Died of a heart attack in January '91.

    • @jeffryphillipsburns
      @jeffryphillipsburns Před 4 měsíci +1

      I’m confused about why Baker was asked to review this. I had the idea he was supposed to review then-current hits?

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci

      @@jeffryphillipsburns The album was reissued that month.

  • @irish66
    @irish66 Před 4 měsíci +10

    That was absolutely brilliant. Probably the best i have heard so far. Ginger was a hoot.

  • @Fordham1969
    @Fordham1969 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Well he was objectively correct about one thing, the remark about Thunderclap Neman sounding like kids, Jimmy McCulloch the guitarist for the group was only 16 at this point, a true guitar prodigy that went on to play with Wings later in the 70s.

  • @marvinsmith2116
    @marvinsmith2116 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Love that green manalishi was here. Got me leaping about.

  • @lib556
    @lib556 Před 4 měsíci +17

    Ha ha. Ginger is funny... and a bit scary. I really enjoyed that doc about him called Beware of Mr. Baker.

    • @2009framat
      @2009framat Před 4 měsíci +1

      I did not enjoy the docu. The film-maker was lousy doing his job and disrespectful. For instance how could he order Baker - an old man in his own home - to remove his sunglasses???!!! This was no real docu about Ginger Baker but more of a documentary of a failure to interview Baker.

    • @lib556
      @lib556 Před 4 měsíci

      @@2009framat Fair enough. In the end, the man with the power of editing wins. Look at the crap put out by that POS Michael Moore.
      I don't recall the disrespect of the sunglasses etc. The most vivid memory from the film was of Baker attacking the film maker with a stick at the end.

    • @2009framat
      @2009framat Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lib556 If the most vivid memory from a documentary about a drummer who wrote history in music is his attacking of an unknown and not very talented film-maker then it is more or less the proof of the total fail of this docu. The ego of that filmmaker was much bigger than that of Ginger Baker, Jerry Lee Lewis and James Brown combined together imo. The difference between that three musicians and this filmaker is that they had - in a way - the "right" to act the way they did. I wanted to know something about Ginger Baker and not that filmmaker.

    • @lib556
      @lib556 Před 4 měsíci

      @@2009framat As I said, fair enough. One has to wonder if the film maker set out with righteous intentions and then, when it didn't go his way... possibly due to his own inexperience/incompetence, he tried to spin it into a hit piece.
      Justified or not, the stick attack was memorable... if nothing else. On reflection, it reminds me a bit of the afore-mentioned scumbag Michael Moore. He ambushed Chuck Heston (suffering from Alzheimer's at the time) at his home and badgered him mercilessly. He then edited the scene in such a way to try and make out that Heston was a racist. (Heston marched with MLK in 63 when it wasn't yet fashionable).
      These days, anybody can grab a camera (whether or not they have any business or talent to do so).

    • @2009framat
      @2009framat Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@lib556 I wanted to see a docu about Ginger Baker _ his life, his impact in music, his views etc. - but I was not and I am still not interested in the intensions of this filmmaker. The difference to someone like Michael Moore is that if you going to see a film from him you know that this guy is involved in the film. Even if someone does not know him he can get an idea what kind of film he will exspect from infos and descriptions. But someone who is exspecting to see a Ginger Baker docu will be disappointed. It looks more like the making of a Ginger Baker docu. or a long youtube-video and the interviewer has a youtube-channel. There is simple too much footage of this guy in a docu about Baker. There was (or still is) a docu about organist Jimmy Smith from the 1960s. That is how a good docu could be made. The camera-team & interviewers are more or less invisible.

  • @dreammachine2013
    @dreammachine2013 Před 4 měsíci +4

    The drum battle challenge that Ginger issued to former Coltrane drummer Elvin Jones is available on CD 🎉😊

  • @davidellis5141
    @davidellis5141 Před 4 měsíci +17

    I'm sure Ginger & John Lydon got on well during his stint in Public Image LTD in the mid 80's.

    • @yinoveryang4246
      @yinoveryang4246 Před 4 měsíci +2

      😅 I think they only met on a "few occasions". Baker only played on one album, and couldn't even remember which songs. From what I can tell that album "Album" was a scam really. Turns out that it was mostly other musicians, because the band was "too young" to be in a studio, according to Lydon. Couldn't play in other words. So they hired anyone that would come in. And apparently Ginger and Tony Williams played drums on it. Steve Vai also offered services on that one

    • @NewFalconerRecords
      @NewFalconerRecords Před 4 měsíci +3

      Actually, it would've been great if John Lydon narrated this video. He would've been perfect.

    • @richardgrant418
      @richardgrant418 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@yinoveryang4246good thing it was only a few times. It probably wouldn’t have taken long at they’d be at each other’s throats …
      Verbally and probably physically

    • @yinoveryang4246
      @yinoveryang4246 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@richardgrant418 Yup. I suspect no one in the management was dumb enough, even in those days, to allow that to happen. By that stage Mr Baker had red flags practically tattooed onto his forehead.

    • @stepheng8779
      @stepheng8779 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@yinoveryang4246Nonsense 😂 Scam?? Followed the tour for 'Album' John McGeough, Bruce Smith were hardly young inexperienced musicians 🤦

  • @redrix3731
    @redrix3731 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Interesting new voice, fits Papa Ginger's sarcasm quite well, even though he sounds like a BBC panel show comedian. Good stuff!

  • @lthompson7625
    @lthompson7625 Před 4 měsíci +10

    I remember Ray Ennis of The Swinging Blue Jeans getting interviewed . He said he was on one of those 1960s package tours and Ginger Baker was the drummer with ( l think?) Graham Bond . Ennis said Ginger was so obnoxious that he decided to give him a smack on the nose!

    • @richardgrant418
      @richardgrant418 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Probably not the only person to have done that to him

  • @dwodo21
    @dwodo21 Před 4 měsíci +10

    It certainly was a crazy era in music, when you can you have Tom Jones and Andy Williams sharing the album charts with King Crimson and Zappa! 😆 …and btw, Ginger is a hoot!!

    • @markkonzerowsky8871
      @markkonzerowsky8871 Před 4 měsíci

      You have to keep in mind that 1970 represents the approximate crossroads of chart relevance between the "greatest" generation and the maturing baby boomers. The old guard were having their last hurrahs at that point.

  • @chasjohn57
    @chasjohn57 Před 4 měsíci +9

    Excellent! He should have been a writer for Creem Magazine

  • @kikovazquez7277
    @kikovazquez7277 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Best "Blind Date" of many I've seen. But then again that was a guarantee when I saw that they actually let Ginger Baker loose to speak his mind. He's not lacking in self-awareness - more like trying to live up to his reputation with cute little apologies thrown in to humanize himself. To not have known this man personally, is to love him profoundly as a musician. Ginger, RIP!

  • @Beniscool950
    @Beniscool950 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Thank you so very much for uploading this

  • @buzzawuzza3743
    @buzzawuzza3743 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Was seriously hoping that he would be really grumpy and I got my wish. All thanks to you, YP! Rock on!

  • @davehire1433
    @davehire1433 Před 4 měsíci +3

    A couple years later, a kid named Huey Lewis joined Clover.

    • @seanconlon2773
      @seanconlon2773 Před 4 měsíci +1

      They also backed Elvis Costello on his first album.

  • @darrellmayberry7784
    @darrellmayberry7784 Před 4 měsíci +2

    May 1970 was the start of the UK general election that ended in a surprise and in the USA Cambodia Kent State and Jackson State were in the news and to match the theme of dreadfulness that month was the songs Ginger Baker had to review and Baker responded with a grouchy response which I loved. I like when you post at the end of the video the charts of the week and there were some great songs on those charts but not the songs Baker had to review and his grumpy response was a source of humor and I think Ginger Baker has a great sense of humor which made this video enjoyable to watch.

  • @Smithy67
    @Smithy67 Před 4 měsíci

    This is great, thanks!!

  • @grokeffer6226
    @grokeffer6226 Před 4 měsíci +11

    He really was a Negative Nelly!! Hot Rats had made the charts that month. It's still one of my favorite albums, all-time. 🔥🐀🐀

  • @karlschumaker
    @karlschumaker Před 4 měsíci +3

    RIP Ginger Baker!!!…Karlido😢🥁😢🥁😢🥁

    • @karlschumaker
      @karlschumaker Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ginger Baker is probably one of the most underrated drummers in Rock and Roll history.Without him,there wouldn’t be any other drummers that were influenced by him…RIP Ginger!!!…Karlido😢🥁😢🥁😢🥁

    • @karlschumaker
      @karlschumaker Před 4 měsíci +1

      Ginger also provided the perfect drum beat along with the guitar and bass playing along with the vocals provided by both Eric Clapton and Jack Bruce in order to make up the super group Cream…RIP Ginger Baker 😢🥁😢🥁😢🥁

  • @fueledbylove
    @fueledbylove Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ginger delivered precisely what I watch these videos for: a completely honest evaluation of what he thinks about what he is hearing and it's what I find to be very humorous about Blind Date. Seriously, there is no hurt feelings among real professionals so everyone please lighten up.

  • @nickrice7535
    @nickrice7535 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Boy o boy, you gota love Ginger ❤️

  • @samalbaugh9321
    @samalbaugh9321 Před 4 měsíci

    I really love this video I love hearing Ginger talk about some of the acts and artists 1970 s some that I’ve heard some of it I haven’t, but he doesn’t hold back at dig it

  • @redghettosun
    @redghettosun Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ginger actually made some good points about that time period I can respect. Especially about singers trying to be who they're not. Vis a vis - Black. The good ones found their own voice later on (Paul Rodgers, Rod Stewart etc.,) but too many carried on way too long. Mick Jagger tried to sound like he was from the ghetto on a few Stones records. Still makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

  • @karlsinclair9918
    @karlsinclair9918 Před 4 měsíci +3

    It's funny because the drums on East of Eden jig a jig are phenomenal and in places totally contemporary. Good old Ginger... his story at the beginning was hilarious.
    He was right about Tony Williams' lifetime, though.

  • @daisywrabbit
    @daisywrabbit Před 4 měsíci +9

    I am immediately listening to Love Like a Man to remind myself TYA don’t suck.

    • @markkonzerowsky8871
      @markkonzerowsky8871 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Make sure it's the Fillmore East live version or Ginger wins the day.

    • @daisywrabbit
      @daisywrabbit Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@markkonzerowsky8871 great stuff! thanks.
      Ginger doesn’t like the rhythm section. Say what you want about Ric Lee, but Leo Lyons is one of the best.

    • @samp.8099
      @samp.8099 Před 4 měsíci +1

      The version from the video is different from the version of the song I'm familiar with. Am I missing something?

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@samp.8099Unfortunately, I couldn't include the studio version due to copyright so what you hear on the video is a live version from that period.

    • @markkonzerowsky8871
      @markkonzerowsky8871 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@samp.8099 The version you really need is the one on the Fillmore East double live CD.

  • @rochford59
    @rochford59 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Poor Ol' Eric was a nervous wreck after 2 years of Cream😵...then Ginger turns up,and says to Eric,l hear you're looking for a Drummer for Blind Faith! Oh' Christ says Eric!!🥴

  • @BegToDiffer99
    @BegToDiffer99 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great sense of humor!

  • @thediamonddog95
    @thediamonddog95 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I like how to voice sounds more emotionaly expressive than before. And that little Harrison/Baker animation.
    I can't imagine Baker and Harrison getting along well, by the way. 😂

  • @pencilpauli9442
    @pencilpauli9442 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Don't hold back, Ginger, tell us what you really think! lol

  • @tomrobinson5776
    @tomrobinson5776 Před 4 měsíci +3

    This was great! Very entertaining to hear Ginger giving his less than enthusiastic views. Fantastic channel!

  • @coldacre
    @coldacre Před 4 měsíci

    fair assessments, all of them!

  • @p0llenp0ny
    @p0llenp0ny Před 4 měsíci +4

    I can't believe this channel only has around 50,000 subs. Criminally undersubbed.

  • @hammer44head
    @hammer44head Před 4 měsíci +5

    Wow, only one "the drummer cant keep time" comment, i was expecting the majority would be inaccurate time keepers for whatever band from mean Mr. Baker, haha. Even dissed Fleetwood Mac Green Manalishi, liked it when i was a kid but i'm glad they didnt go in that direction that Greenie (who i love) seemed to want them maybe to go next and instead went with Kirwin's ideas and added Christine also Welch. Future Games and Bare Trees are brilliant albums and the Kirwin - Welch guitar play was excellent along with Chritines soulful singing and keywork on piano, organ. Well Ginger is brutally honest and you cant ask for more than that i guess maybe mercy, yeah mercy. Thanks again Yesterday's Papers for the video and all the work you or you all put into them (which is a lot). Peace out, Hammer!!!

    • @obbor4
      @obbor4 Před 4 měsíci +2

      What direction was that? As far as I know, Peter continued to play sinewy, self-reflecting blues with and without his former band.

    • @thereunionparty
      @thereunionparty Před 4 měsíci

      I hadn't quite realised that there were 6 albums and 5 years between Peter Green leaving and Nicks/Buckingham joining, mainly because I prefer the Peter Green iteration of the group. I shall have to check out those albums you mention.

    • @hammer44head
      @hammer44head Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@obbor4 - just my opinion but i think Pete was well leaving the band even before his meltdown and with rock getting harder in sound and fury that greenie was leaning in that direction with Manilishi, just a feeling but they were moving away from being a blues only band into something more them. They couldnt go on just playing old blues tunes without people getting burnt out on hearing it over and over. Gotta present your own art and they did.

  • @northernengland
    @northernengland Před 4 měsíci

    Ginger got the sack from Hawkwind, along with 50 other members who departed including Lemmy, incredible.

  • @jerrywatt6813
    @jerrywatt6813 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ginger was quite a character ha ha thanks YP Cheers !

  • @boomtownrat5106
    @boomtownrat5106 Před 4 měsíci +6

    It’s been a while but welcome back to Blind Date! I get a kick out of Ginger Baker. Loved GBs Air Force. My one and only time that I’ve seen him in concert was in San Diego in 1972. He was touring with Buddy Miles in what was billed as The Battle of the Drummers. On that tour with them was Nazareth.

    • @obbor4
      @obbor4 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That couldn't have been much of a battle. Buddy was nowhere near Ginger's league. As a drummer anyway.

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci +1

      That must've been a really cool show.

    • @boomtownrat5106
      @boomtownrat5106 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@YesterdaysPapers What was interesting to me about that concert was that I went going in knowing about the talents Ginger Baker and Buddy Miles. The year before in 71, Miles releases the album We’ve Got To Live together, which I really enjoyed. The revelation to me was the group Nazareth. Here in the states, they weren’t really known in 72. I think it was in 1975 when they released Hair of the Dog and their cover of Love Hurts becomes a hit in early ‘76. I’m glad I got to see what the UK, some of the commonwealth, and the Europeans saw before striking gold here in the U.S.

    • @boomtownrat5106
      @boomtownrat5106 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@obbor4 Let’s just say, Buddy was the better singer. Buddy did hold his own, though…

    • @obbor4
      @obbor4 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@boomtownrat5106 I too saw Nazareth, once along with Alice Cooper, The Kinks, and The Tubes (Anaheim Stadium, summer of 1978) and opening for Frank Marino and Mahogany Rush, in Tampa, 1979. The only time that I saw Ginger was with Jack Bruce, at The Coach House, a club in Southern California, on Ginger's 50th birthday, in August, of 1989. They played lots of Cream songs with a young shredder type of guitarist, a then 18-year-old called Blues Saraceno. Not Cream, and not Eric, but still a great show! Jack gave away a brand-new fretless bass to one lucky audience member.

  • @Peter-Burbank
    @Peter-Burbank Před 4 měsíci

    I’m in a lovely mood today!

  • @SirGamestop
    @SirGamestop Před 4 měsíci

    Nice to see East Of Eden get some recognition. Some great albums in the charts that week too.

  • @jean-marcknight8816
    @jean-marcknight8816 Před 4 měsíci +2

    😂 savage review. I am a fan of TYA. I had 1st row early bought tickets for me and my family for Lee and Johnny Winters at the Olympia april 2013, I was so exited to see these 2 legends (and Lee's guitar) for the first time in my life in top notch conditions ... then he died one month before the gig 😭

  • @MaxRadin
    @MaxRadin Před 4 měsíci

    Different narration voice - I like it!

  • @josephesposito3499
    @josephesposito3499 Před 4 měsíci

    GINGER BAKER IS THE GREATEST! AND A VERY COOL GUY! KUDOS TO GINGER!

  • @IndiesoulMusik
    @IndiesoulMusik Před 4 měsíci +1

    Alvin Lee and Ten Years After are awesome Mr. Baker 😂

  • @Claytone-Records
    @Claytone-Records Před 4 měsíci

    That ending/Crimson like tune beginning ~ 6:33 is very cool. Another excellent production.

  • @Dylan-co2cl
    @Dylan-co2cl Před 4 měsíci

    Man,that was so funny,you gotta love ginger and is straight up honesty.

  • @annoyingbstard9407
    @annoyingbstard9407 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I don’t know much about drumming or drummers but GB is one of the few I can recognise from a record. Whether this means he’s good or bad I’ve no idea.

    • @yinoveryang4246
      @yinoveryang4246 Před 4 měsíci

      He was most certainly very good. More as a drummer than as a human being though,

  • @janerkenbrack3373
    @janerkenbrack3373 Před 4 měsíci +5

    I remember watching a short documentary about Cream. They interviewed each member separately, and Ginger Baker trashed Jack Bruce a lot, said they couldn't get along, but that he and Eric Clapton were good friends. The next clip the interviewer told Eric what Ginger had said, and he replied "really?" in astonishment. It was a hysterical.
    I give Baker credit for forming Cream, but I'm not expert enough to judge his drumming. But everybody said he was a colossal ass, and this piece supports that assessment.

    • @CarlDraper
      @CarlDraper Před 4 měsíci +1

      Baker hated that Pete Brown ended up teaming up with Jack after first writing with him

    • @davidtoups4684
      @davidtoups4684 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Baker and Bruce hated each other and fought all the time. It's a wonder Cream was able to put out anything at all, never mind the great music they did make!

    • @janerkenbrack3373
      @janerkenbrack3373 Před 4 měsíci

      @@CarlDraper Ginger Baker hated something? The deuce you say!

    • @plasticweapon
      @plasticweapon Před 4 měsíci

      baker and bruce had a love hate relationship, and you should be able to judge somebody's drumming by listening to it. if all you know about him is that he hated a lot, why have an opnion?

    • @janerkenbrack3373
      @janerkenbrack3373 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@plasticweapon I like drumming. But I couldn't tell you whether John Bonham or Keith Moon was the greatest drummer. My point wasn't that I don't have an opinion, but that I wasn't commenting about the quality of his work, merely about his character. This video shows you that he didn't care who was on these records, and just trashed most of them, only to talk about himself quite a bit.
      I've watched many of these "so and so reviews the records" videos, and the artists are almost always generous and considerate of other artists work. Baker is none of that, and earns whatever scorn he gets. But he wasn't drumming in this video, so nothing about that for me to criticize.

  • @spockboy
    @spockboy Před 4 měsíci +8

    Love your channel. Have a suggestion. With today's AI you could literally use Ginger Baker's actual voice, or John Lennon's or whomever to read that quotes you have. It would lend such a level of authenticity that your channel would become HUGE (as it should) : )

    • @obbor4
      @obbor4 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That would be difficult as these are published interviews without voice recodings being available.

    • @manwithumbrella
      @manwithumbrella Před 4 měsíci

      "With today's AI you could literally use Ginger Baker's actual voice" LOL ... I hope for your sake this is sarcasm, homie.

    • @spockboy
      @spockboy Před 4 měsíci

      I'm not sure you understand. There are websites with celebrity voice patterns, you write in the text, and the voice of whomever you choose says the words. The technology is so rampant that scams are being perpetrated. A criminal will call you several times (for contrived reasons) and record your voice pattern, and once they have it they will call your parents with YOUR voice stating that you are in jail and need bail money! @@obbor4

    • @spockboy
      @spockboy Před 4 měsíci

      LOL It wasn;'t sarcasm, but I take your point. : ) @@manwithumbrella

    • @johnp515
      @johnp515 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@spockboy Authenticity and AI don’t belong in the same sentence.

  • @SEGAClownboss
    @SEGAClownboss Před 4 měsíci

    Nobody wouldve been madman enough to mix King Crimson and Sabbath in one tune like you did. That was fantastic

  • @archstanton3763
    @archstanton3763 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Green Manalishi, thought he’d of recognised Peter Green ! Ginger takes no prisoners.

  • @patricksemple5690
    @patricksemple5690 Před 4 měsíci

    Loved the mellotron Sabbath cover at the end

  • @mackb909
    @mackb909 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I've read that "Ginger" became Peter Baker's (the current chief White House correspondent of The New York Times shares the name) nickname not so much for his crimson-tinged locks as for his fiery temperament. Well-known for the long-standing myriad difficulties in his relationship with Jack Bruce, which long preceded Cream and contributed substantially to that band's demise after little more than two years, Baker was never reticent in expressing his opinions, sometimes even violently, going so far as to assault physically the documentarian working respectfully with him near the end of Baker's life (Baker was well past 70 at the time). I hope it is not too arch to say that that documentarian, Jay Bulger, developed a very gingerly approach to Baker, not knowing what sort of mean spirits he might be in on any given day, and that this did not spare him from Baker's wrath. Is it a surprise Baker vents so much vitriol in this interview? Is it a surprise when a bear relieves herself in the woods?
    There is no denying Baker's talent, though for my money there are dozens if not hundreds of drummers across multiple genres of music to whom I would prefer to listen (including Tony Williams and others he disses herein), and I demur in the assessment of many (including, I suppose, Baker himself) that he was "the greatest drummer of all time." All I can say is that I am glad I didn't read this particular bitch-fest when it was first published, spring 1970. I was a lad of 14 going on 15 trying desperately to cling to some sense of the promise and idealism of the '60s, already fading fast in the wake of Altamont, the Manson family murders, Nixon/Kissinger's burgeoning war crimes in Southeast Asia (now expanded into Cambodia), the egregious massacres at Jackson State and Kent State, and the bitter remarks of my three-years-older sister's friends that it was all over, whatever "it" was, as they took their last high school acid trips and headed off to college. The last thing I'd've needed was reading Ginger's diatribe.
    Anyway, still an excellent vid and an excellent sense of where music was heading, not to mention into the vinegary and bilious mind of post-Graham Bond Organization, post-Cream, post-Blind Faith Ginger Baker. Thank you again, YP!

  • @grahampaulkendrick7845
    @grahampaulkendrick7845 Před 4 měsíci

    Well done on the King Crimson tune (?) at the end.

  • @maurogajardo620
    @maurogajardo620 Před 4 měsíci

    Live Cream vol. 2 is an favourite of mine

    • @maurogajardo620
      @maurogajardo620 Před 4 měsíci

      And Fresh Cream and Disraeli Gears but on MONO sound

  • @HansRickheit
    @HansRickheit Před 3 měsíci

    The music at the end really blew me away. I love the mellotron sound. It sounded like "In The Court of The Crimson King" at first, but then morphed in the song "Black Sabbath." Fantastic! Are you ever likely to release a collection of this music?

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 3 měsíci

      Maybe I will someday! Glad you enjoyed it, Hans. Cheers!

  • @scottjackson163
    @scottjackson163 Před 4 měsíci

    I’m not surprised that he didn’t like Ten Years After, but I love A Space in Time just the same.

  • @chrismoller4272
    @chrismoller4272 Před 4 měsíci

    I love Claptons quote about Ginger and Jack bitching at the first Creem rehearsal. Sounds about right.

  • @L1V2P9
    @L1V2P9 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Ginger nailed the Tony Williams track. "Anti-people music"...and having no starting and finishing point. Baker may have been hostile, but sometimes things have to be said, and it's refreshing to hear opinions by someone who isn't bothered by the consequences.

  • @sim0n17
    @sim0n17 Před 3 měsíci

    sounds exactly like the Ginger I met in the 90s, so at least he's consistent and remained true to himself LOL!

  • @MrMjp58
    @MrMjp58 Před 4 měsíci

    I like how musical stars at that time used to comment on the technical aspects of production and guitar sounds etc.
    It was only a few years later, that all anyone cared about was sociology, fashion sense and image.

  • @chrisbacos
    @chrisbacos Před 4 měsíci +3

    Ginger Baker was notorious for his volatile temper but he had a sense of humor too. He wasn't keen on any of these numbers.

  • @birchward
    @birchward Před 3 měsíci

    Ginger , was always a man who said what he thought, ( and was not , scared to say it ) ! Its a funny thing , ginger , was in a rehearsal studio , in Acton west , london , near where he , lived and heard , one of my old bands , Clear blue sky , and said to john simms , the guitarist ,would you , like to ,do some work , a few gigs with me in europe , next week , so john said yes , of course , and when he came back , ginger kept his connection with the band and his son , Kofi , joined Clear blue sky on drums ,and his lady done the album cover , art work , for the new album .
    Its a strange but true thing , , ginger came from Wembley , the same as charlie watts / keith moon , it must have been something in the air ! ha . ha .and all class guys !
    cheers ritchie .

  • @Pwecko
    @Pwecko Před 4 měsíci

    Two of those tracks were brilliant - Green Manalishi (what is a manalishi?) and Jig A Jig by East of Eden. The latter was guaranteed to get everyone up and rocking at parties. It is superb.
    Ginger Baker was a sad misanthrope.

    • @tupkorhajar
      @tupkorhajar Před 4 měsíci

      manalishi = devil

    • @Pwecko
      @Pwecko Před 4 měsíci

      @@tupkorhajar No, it's not. I looked it up after I wrote that. The word was made up by Peter Green. Maybe that was what he meant by it, but nobody had heard the word until he wrote the song.

    • @tupkorhajar
      @tupkorhajar Před 4 měsíci

      @@Pwecko peter green was interviewed by journalist petar luković (deceased last week) in 1981. journalist asked green what manalishi meant. the answer was: manalishi=devil.

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead Před 4 měsíci

    That outro music was amazing btw.

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci

      Cheers!

    • @DL-oy2qn
      @DL-oy2qn Před 4 měsíci

      @@YesterdaysPapers What is it? Sounds like King Crimson with a bit of Kashmir thrown in..

  • @Micolash_is_behind_you
    @Micolash_is_behind_you Před 4 měsíci +1

    LOL love Ginger

  • @roberthughes3904
    @roberthughes3904 Před 4 měsíci

    Nice to hear 'In The Court Of The Crimson Baker'.

  • @Unsung_Earth
    @Unsung_Earth Před 4 měsíci +2

    Great video. Ginger was unique and very humourous here 😎🙂

  • @Truckngirl
    @Truckngirl Před 4 měsíci +1

    Brutal! But he is very self-aware.

  • @nolagospeltracts8264
    @nolagospeltracts8264 Před 4 měsíci

    I like this narrator.

  • @KeizerHedorah
    @KeizerHedorah Před 4 měsíci +3

    nowadays british reviews sound like "oi blody el fam, its a royt laugh mate innit"

  • @Dave_Mayberry
    @Dave_Mayberry Před 4 měsíci +1

    He knew Ten Years After, because they played together at festivals….. He’s just being Ginger….

  • @leonelreo
    @leonelreo Před 4 měsíci

    Great content, as usual. What's the name of the instrumental tune at the end of the video?

  • @AndyBibel
    @AndyBibel Před 4 měsíci

    "This is Doomed. I'm not nice to people am I? Do you give points for trying or what?" Hilarious! Ginger Baker should have had his own show on Telly! 😂

  • @shinyelbow
    @shinyelbow Před 4 měsíci

    His story of not even recognising his own work on record was a classic.

  • @blahblahoink
    @blahblahoink Před 4 měsíci

    Gotta love old Ginger...'whose playing drums on that? He should be working in a chip shop' etc...

  • @Digibeatle09
    @Digibeatle09 Před 3 měsíci

    Baker's acerbic observation on the "Ten Years After" track is interesting ("I like people to sing and be themselves"....) - I always thought Mick Jagger's affected Southern States' drawl (on many Stones' songs) had a false quality to it - but look at the standing of the Rolling Stones in rock music history (and of many of those particular songs) 🤠 Funny ol' business rock n' roll !!!!

  • @modjohnsenglishdisco
    @modjohnsenglishdisco Před 4 měsíci

    Check out old Downbeat Blindfold Tests. Hear jazz legends give strong opinions about their peers, even when their guesses are completely wrong!

  • @mr.snicker-doodles7081
    @mr.snicker-doodles7081 Před 3 měsíci

    This is hilarious, I can literally visualize him saying all of this stuff haha...

  • @Wygruce
    @Wygruce Před 4 měsíci +1

    Fascinating stuff as usual. Reading the article on the Creation in the latest issue of Ugly Things reminded me of your work, all sourced from the inkies. Some interesting slants on the birth of psychedelia in that article, I'd love to see you investigate the first mentions of the genre in the UK music press.

  • @tamomarfernandez7548
    @tamomarfernandez7548 Před 4 měsíci

    An absolute genius

  • @jasontorres7756
    @jasontorres7756 Před 4 měsíci +1

    At least he was honest 😅

  • @crimsonking70
    @crimsonking70 Před 4 měsíci

    love your reinterpretation of King Crimson in the closing credits. Do you have a real Mellotron? Who does your music? Love the credits music in Yesterday's Papers.

    • @YesterdaysPapers
      @YesterdaysPapers  Před 4 měsíci +1

      I recorded the music myself. Glad you liked it, cheers!

  • @trickydick6152
    @trickydick6152 Před 4 měsíci

    He didn't make friends but mostly he was spot on. And didn't have no qualms about reporting what a drummer giant thought about him.

  • @globalnomad1221
    @globalnomad1221 Před 4 měsíci +1

    God graced Ginger with a long life lol😆

  • @thegoodthebadandthescribbl7560
    @thegoodthebadandthescribbl7560 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Were you busy and asked your dad to fill in? 😂 as soon as I saw ginger baker I knew it would be interesting

  • @SteveWattse
    @SteveWattse Před 4 měsíci

    Kenny Ball and his boys were always on the box in the 70s! Forget what show hosted them. Two Ronnies? Val Doonican?

  • @mickdarcy3063
    @mickdarcy3063 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Who is this King Crimson remix/cover? Love it!

  • @marrrtin
    @marrrtin Před 4 měsíci

    Looks like a bit of a lull in Hitsville.

  • @DesertScorpionKSA
    @DesertScorpionKSA Před 4 měsíci

    "They seem to like exaggerating the fact that they can't keep time." Ginger Baker was masterful drummer but what a grouch.