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- Crimped cases may seem like a pain-in-the-brass, but are actually pretty darn simple to prep for reloading. In this podcast we cover what a crimped case is, how to identify it, and how to get rid of the crimp. If watching on CZcams, you can see us do it. If you’re a “brass rat”, but cull every crimper you come by, you may want to reconsider.
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ryan is soo well spoken its soo easy to absorb his information love listening to you guys talk
Hunting, reloading and cartridge talks is what brings folks here. Well done!
Please do a #10MinutesTalk about the mighty .222 Remington. Greetings from Germany.
The ammogeddon situation is crazy and should be long over. People are not shooting more, they're shooting less, if at all because of lack of availability and stupid prices. I have several friends who work at retailers like Big 5 and Sportsmens Warehouse. They each have a core regular group of crazies who know their delivery supply schedule and buy as much ammo as possible on delivery day, they line up like zombies before the stores open, both to hoard and worse to resell on Gunbroker. Vortex guys - use your platform please to plead for some common sense with the hunting and shooting public. It's crazy I can hardly find a box of .243 at a reasonable price for my son to practice, and even crazier that false fear insanity has driven 9 mm and 5.56 prices up 300%. We shooters, and we shooters alone, are creating this mess, amd only we collectively can fix it and return to normal. It has nothing to do with politics - it's supply and ignorant, artificially inflated demand.
AR brass prep is my favorite winter project. I tumble range pick up brass as I acquire it all year. I will lube, size, and decap all the brass. Then I sort by headstamp. I trim, decrimp, and trim the brass while sitting in front of a PA system cranking music. Once that is all done tumble the brass again and hand prime. I use a table mounted Lee priming tool. Fast and easy! I tend to favor LC brass as it is the most plentiful. I store my primed cases and load at my leisure. I use a Frankfort Arsenal case prep station but I've also made my Dillon decrimper into an auto eject unit which triples production when I use it. I usually run 300-500 cases a night through the trim and decrimp process. When I finish the 223/5.56 brass I move on the 300blkout and then .308. When all that is done I pop my head out of the ground and look for signs of spring. LOL
Lee also makes a depriming rod and base combo, which used with a hammer, knocks the old primer right out.
Reaming is easier, and I prefer it for processing bulk plinking brass.
Now, if dealing with same-lot brass I'm prepping for accuracy use, I'll use a pocket swager. It'll preserve all of the material, and work-hardening the area around the pocket should help brass life.
Brass rat here. I primarily use range brass. I built a wet tumbler that will hold around 1,500 to 1,700 pieces of brass at a time. Most of the time I run it through the wet tumbler for a couple hours first before I de prime them. I. also use a universal de priming tool. Wet tumbling keeps the crap out of your press, off your hands, and out of your dies. At todays brass prices and availability I don't know how people buy new brass if they shoot very much. I saw 200 pieces of new .300 blackout brass the other day in a local sporting goods store for $80.00. I can cut, form, trim, remove primer pockets from many 2.23/5.56 pieces of range brass for that. When the weather is bad that's my routine. Set in the shop and pump out brass. Nice to have it when you have buddies that reload you can trade components back and fourth. Good video!
I love the F.W. Arms self centering universal decapping die it's freaking amazing and I use the Lyman Case Prep center also its a really easy way to knock out a bunch of crimped brass. Great video guys!!!
Loaded thousands of nasty, years old, crimped pocket brass from the sheriff's dept range. I use a drill press with a reamer. Turn the press on, stick your brass under the reamer, push up on the case. Takes two seconds per case. Throw the tumbling pins in the trash, you don't need them. Lemi-Shine and Dawn are all you need to wet tumble. Don't believe it? Try it.
Owned the Lyman power station for several years. Affordable and functional.
I have used range pick up for 10 years now , I've had no problems just take care and inspect every case and be consistent.
I have the exact same Lyman case prep center and I've tried several different styles of crimp remover tools and finally just chucked my remaining 5.56/crimped brass in the trash. I ordered a $17 shell catcher off Amazon and I'm just ganna catch all my store bought .223 and load that brass from now on. Back in 2020 I loaded 1000 rounds with ebay military range brass when that was all I could find. No mater what I did I could never seem to find any sort of consistency in how much or little to trim from the primer pockets. Even after all the case prep some of them primers would make me cringe going in and that's why I personaly decided to just stick with .223 brass HOWEVER I must say that the 5.56 brass loaded ammo, even with subpar primer seating has always shot very accurate and consistent for me in all my .223/5.56 rifles so it may just be an OCD thing for me more than anything lol.
Nice finding Black Hills Match brass!
I do the Primer decrimper, deburrer and the Primer Flash hole cutter on all cases that I find at the range.
I want to follow Ryan on social media but I can't find him also this might sound crazy but some times when I get home after work I tend to listen to older podcasts and for some reason the ones where Ryan is talking put me to sleep 😴 not because he is boring but I think his voice is soothing like some weird ASMR 🤣🤣🤣
I use an RCBS chamfer tool to do that, simple cost effective and here in Australia we don't have to pay up to $900 AU for the moterised station, deprime, remove crimp and clean primer pocket with hand pocket cleaner, not hard and simple for those on a budget or just wanting to save $$$
good stuff
Another thing on collecting outside range brass. When raking and scooping them up. A load of dirt and rocks and steel case. A media separator is a great tool. Fill the box full of water and wet-tumble the brass. Dirt and small rocks fall through and sink to the bottom. Then I dump the shells on a large towel on the ground and Hose down. Grab the remaining rocks, then run a strong magnet over the brass to get the steel cases out. Then I dump them into my shell sorter pans to get the brass sorted. Yes, a lot of work, but I have brass coming out of my ears.
Can you do a podcast on hearing protection? Would be great for new shooters like me. Thanks!
I like to use the Lyman VLD chamfer deburr tool for 223 military crimps.
You are right, it will stop your press if you hit a crimp
Buy the GO -NOGO gauge for checking the primer holes.
I always collect the 223 and 204 ruger brass at the range and scrap it. I don’t even have a 223 or a 204 ruger so it’s always money in my pocket either way
Can you do the 270WSM cartridge!?
At 6:25 I over opened, over swaged about 40 223 with my swage die. Being a newbie ain't cheap.
People would love to hear you guys talk about the guns of famous books like "Blood Meridien" (Walker colts, Wesson rifle, Sharps....) AND also talk about the guns of very famous hunters (Corbett, Bell, Patterson, Rushby...) And the stories of the famed wildlife they sent to Valhalla (Tsavo lions, Rudraprayag leopard, Champawat tigress...)
No they wouldnt
@@nvlaser9084 they're great stories. Try reading some time. It'll illuminate a world you have total ignorance of
@@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839 Yea still dont care and neither do most people.
Definitely need a .222 rem talk.
A question if I may: around here, "range brass" is Berdan-capped. I know how to de-cap them, and the can be de-crimped (although it's tougher to do because of the anvill) but in your opinion, is it worth the effort?
Just getting to this now - a bit late sorry! Berdan-primed brass can be reloaded, but it is not so conventional and requires some specialized tooling. Often, a hydraulic solution is deployed, where the case is filled with water, and a piston is inserted into the case mouth and driven downward, knocking the primer out. A small decapping rod with a double decapping stem could also be used, but the user would need to locate and index both flash holes before knocking it out.
It can be done - but whether it is worth doing is definitely in question!
@@VortexNation thanks. I have tried hydraulic decapping and the RCBS Berdan de-capping tool (a tool whith which you dig out the primer by hooking into the extractor groove). With both methods case damage occurred more often than not. Cases were Kynoch .404 Jeffery. At the time there weren't too many other options.
Dillon Superswage is the way to go. The RCBS looks like the same design but I have not used it. One more step and one more reason Jimmy will never reload. Lol.
Some of the 300 bo ammo I buy has a crimp w 3 dots
well gotta ask this question--anybody ever had a case head split or separation due to previously reloaded range brass getting too thin in the case wall? All this other stuff is easy--isn't this a consideration with range brass?--gotta bunch of range brass i wanna' use but just slightly leary of that condition.
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300 RUM please! King of the 30’s?
well damn boys, people frequent the range and shoot, so what I find is some sweet brass.... !! There isn't any brass that look like it was swept across a concrete floor, sorry ! LOL However, I did for quite a spell buy old 06' brass for the 50's and 60's that was pretty scroungy, but I clean em real nice an pertty !
Are they implying that Black Hills brass is crappy!
I have some brass that is dark brown even after wet tumbling and lemi. It loads just fine and fires very well. Then firing it goes back into loading, and absolutely no oddities. The downside is with outdoor range brass, the freaking cleaning and sorting before you can even think about running on the press. But I have a box full of assorted brass in case I buy something that fires that caliper.
My cheap ass uses a pocket knife to remove the crimps, close to 1000 cases and about to buy the proper tool
Almost all 223 556 brass is crimped
I was hoping this was gonna cover annealing 🤦
AMP that's all you need.💰
Ruined plenty of primers figuring this out
With all brass now with spent primer still in. I throw into the tumbler a heavy dose of dawn. Tumble for 20 minutes. Then tumble them in the separator to get water and crap out and get them rinsed off. Dry them. Lube and process. Then dump into a large container loaded with hot water and dawn. Purpose remove most of the lube. Then into a tumbler for 2 hours with a small dose of dawn and lemi and ss media. When I drain the tumbler my water is not black nasty crap. My tumbler and media stay clean now, and the brass comes out great. I ran into the problem of this black coating in tumblers and brass not coming out shiny. So yes, doing it this way takes extra steps but good results consistently.