Liquid Metal Laptop Cooling - 1FPS to 60FPS Just By Adding Liquid Metal!
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- čas přidán 11. 10. 2018
- So my buddy finally decided to buy a new gaming laptop, when I asked him what he planned on doing with his Alienware he said nothing. When I asked why he said it was because the thing was basically a brick. This laptop defiantly has its best days behind it, however that doesn’t mean it cant be great again. This laptop couldn’t run Overwatch on low presets at anything higher the 1-5fps but I knew the reason was due to its 7 year old thermal paste. This laptops thermal compound was hard as concrete and was doing nothing when it came to thermals. The labtop would thermal throttle while just downloading games, in game the CPU would run at 98 degrees celsius with a clock speed of .7ghz. so I took it apart and cleaned everything up and applied liquid metal. When I got it back together the temps were back to normal and we were able to play Overwatch on the same presets at a solid 55-65 FPS the transformation was absolutely amazing. So if you have an older laptop that seems to be worthless it might be worth your time and effort to get in there and correct the problems. This video is Liquid Metal Alienware Laptop Cooling - 1FPS to 60FPS How Cooling Can Bring Your Gaming Laptop Back To Life! Although there is some risk to liquid metaling its worth it when the alternative is not having a gaming laptop. If you really don’t wanna use liquid metal use normal thermal paste as that will go a long way as well.
If you want a good guide on how to take apart an Alienware M14xR1 or R2 check this video out for more details
• Alienware M14x R1/R2: ...
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We all know why it is sticky.....
@@noblesavage149 .... Solo *GAMING*
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Lots of porn since 2011 to 2019 made it stickey
I wanted to say that but you got it bro
Literally the words I was gonna say you and my brain fucked to make this brain child I
"That's a bit too much..." Proceeds to replace it with the exact same amount.
Lol nailed it
I came to the comment section looking for this comment because I felt the same thing. Go back and reapply liquid metal much much lighter and you're going to get at least 15 to 20 degrees better
@@ghfhgfuuu LOL Not with that heatsink. Dell's solution to cooling is more fan.
Laptops do not have IHS so over application doesnt result in as much thermal trapping as a desktop cpu
@@kylenelson1805 correct. It still doesn't fix the small heatsink.
"Seems like a bit too much, let's suck some up" immedietely puts back exactly the same amount
he stuck some of it to other processor lol
to much liquid metal can make the temps hotter then stock paste. i bet if he took a bit more off it would have been cooler
"We're thermal throttling harder than a mac book now"
...
*Computer nerds' ears hear gunshot sound in the distance*
Lol
Nah, Apple haters like me would have laughed at that comment.
Computer nerds probably hate macbook as well
@@ozmobozo *Waves PC flag patriotically*
Oof
"It's sticky. I don't know why it's sticky." Are you sure you don't? Are you *sure* you don't?
My thought exact xD
SO that's why the laptop broke down
@@bunkerspy7469 _ExcUsE mE WHat tHe FuCk_
ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO TOUCH IT!!!????!?!?!??!?!?
@@PepponeSilver touchy touch touch the _cuuuuummmm_
hey major hardware its me your friend i want my laptop back..
@AbdooMs EG hahhaa
Fake owner
Say bye bye to your laptop
@@ALIALI-eu3bk lol
🤣🤣this trick is tooo old
Oh man it sucks only having 8 gigahertz of ram
what do you mean by gigahertz of ram?
@@vincenathancarabuena5075 did you watch the video?
@@vincenathancarabuena5075 he says it in the video
@@vincenathancarabuena5075 oh my lord... r/woooosh
I only had 8 gigahertz of RAM but then I deleted a bunch of files and now I have both of my drives running dual core.
now this is a legit 1 to 60 fps video
10:40 That "beeping that was going on' are Windows beep codes. It was literally attempting to tell you what was wrong with it. 5 short beeps followed by 5 short beeps was saying to pull out the ram and put it back in.
wow, thats some cool free knowledge i just got.
I questioned why it was beeping! If it's because of the memory, how did it post?
UPDATE: 3/11/2019, This video has done quite well and i thank you all for this. I have gotten many requests to do a follow up video where we take this laptop back apart and see if any damage has occurred to the die and or heat sink. Have no fear this video is coming, currently my wife uses this laptop as a daily driver because believe it or not it still runs pretty dang good as of today. my question to all of you is how much time would you like me to let pass before we open it back up, 4/12/2019 will be 6 months or should we wait longer. leave a reply down below.
I vote 6mo. If any damage is occuring, it's early enoungh to change it if needed. Great vid btw.
10:40 That "beeping that was going on' are Windows beep codes. It was literally attempting to tell you what was wrong with it. 5 short beeps followed by 5 short beeps was saying to pull out the ram and put it back in.
Wait longer. Go for a year, no one would put their PC apart just after 6 Months to check if there thermal compount is still intact. I removed my liquid metal cooled heatsink just after about 4 years and there was no damage whatsoever. But this stuff was hard to get rid of ;)
Gallium or mercury?
@@KJ7JHN gallium
Awesome review! Very impressed. Can’t believe the thermal paste was so difficult to get off and hardened up that way... You saved the life of a laptop!
This was really useful for me. You simultaneously walked me through the entire application process AND offered a nice visual comparison. Maybe now I can pimp out all my little machines and make some all-in-ones at work more usable. Thanks.
The original issue was the thermal compound was dried/gone. Liquid metal is overkill 1-2degrees difference and same FPS by just replacing the compound correctly, also LM has many complications and isn't good for long-term functionality.
"it's sticky , I don't know why it's sticky" it's maybe because he's using a VPN when browsing the internet
WAIT WHAT? IT HAS 8GHZ OF RAM?!
Stinky Llama ghz of ram
@Manuel Antonio damn! GDDR5 as system memory!
Just a small tip to anyone trying to repaste laptop with liquid metal. You need to put a bit more than a thin layer you would put on when delidding. The laptop heatsink rarely makes a good contact with the die and often needs extra material.
Wow! Boy, did you get those clean to mirror surfaces. Well done! And then the ACC. Awesome work. This old laptop got way more than it deserved but it was fun to watch your work and revive it! Awesome work, MH!
Thank you
Man I'm loving the videos. Very entertaining and enjoyable!
Him: It's sticky. I don't know why it's sticky.
Me: I do.
Funny and original
Underrated comment
"I cleaned my laptop and now it works better"
Oh lol, I watched this video a while ago but didn’t know your channel yet but now I watch your video’s quite frequently and realised you made this video
Great video ! I've been watching your videos on liquid metal because I have a i7 8700 and I wanted to use liquid metal but I don't want to ruin my PC so thank you for your videos and your time ....I'll be watchn
as far as i can tell as long as you are careful you should be fine
im subbing this is the content im coming for G
Happy to have ya
Nice vid, I would change the name to just - 1FPS to 60FPS - How Cooling Can Bring Your Laptop Back To Life
@Skela Tonne ya, well if he put the thermal in the same way that he put the Liquid metal, the result will be the same, i had tried. Looks at 7:40, he s dumb or what... he should change the title to "Bad replacement Thermal compound"
Me i got even around 47-50C with Thermal compound, in stead the metal liquid s around 50-55C. This guy just try to get the sponsor and that s the fact
I would change it to: "How CLEANING Can Bring Your Laptop Back To Life". Normal thermal paste would be sufficient and it would be safer.
- sticky or not
Cleaning Looks Superb😍
First video of yours and subbed, love stuff like this can't wait for more
Thank You
cool video man.
if i may advise you about something, it is recommended to add some liquid metal to the cooler side as well as on the die, to brake the surface tension of the liquid .
Didn't we see him do that here...
A little idea here. You should've left that thermal "concrete" around the die and simply cleaned the top before doing LM. Since the concrete would be in two close fitting halves it would be great for keeping the LM from leaking out. That's especially important since this is a laptop which would move around.
That's a rather brilliant thought but, I wouldn't trust such to work as a sealer - it will leak and let you down at some point, the question is only when.
Cool video man, didn't expect to watch all 14 mins!
6:28 That thermal paste 😭😭 great to see you breathe new life into a legacy machine 🔥🔥
it was fun, me and my friend had many of late nights playing star craft II on this bad boy
"It only has 8 Giga Hertz, I like it to have at least 16" :P Funny
@@cybersamiches4028 hertz = Hz
@@cybersamiches4028 xD
He mean the ram.. That thing only have 8gb ram and want to upgrade it to 16gb
@@danishdanial3096 Yes, its the gigahertz that is funny
lol ikr
THANK YOU FOR WATCHIN make sure to sub that be super cool yesir
You should try disassembling the fan housing and check that out. Replaced the thermal paste in my hp630 core 2 duo, still was peaking at 90-100 Degrees Celsius. Opened up the fan housing and found a dust bunny in there. Once that was out, I've been playing saints row 3 with an average of 45fps at minimum settings ( which is excellent considering it used to overheat and do a thermal shutdown just by opening a pdf
I've seen your video on Facebook and a page basically repost your video when saying that it's awesome that you just change a thermal paste, but we know you and me that this is the most basic and common repaid on a laptop, that's funny xD
Great video by the way!! :D
Liked, subbed and commented only for the effort you put in the video, I do hope that you make it big someday my guy! :)
Thank you
Can we all agree that a proper test would have been to first clean the cooling fan/fins with old compound FIRST?.. and then continue.
Exactly ! in my opinion a new normal thermal paste would help a lot too
mate there was no thermal paste between the heatsink and the die fans did nothing cuz the heat couldn't transfer from cpu die to the heatsink just very poorly
U wouldn't get so many views with the title 55fps to60fps just by adding liquid metal cooling
Performance after thorough vacuum brush and alcohol would be interesting. But assembly and disassembly irritates my tolerance for stress.
*Alien jizz has high thermal transfer properties, tho it turns to concrete when the warranty runs out. Ask any Alienware employee*
thoughts~ clear nail polish basically the same thing to seal off the fuses. 99% isoprobyl will loosen up that thermal concrete if given a few seconds, very little scraping required if any. i usually use Q-tips soaked in alcohol, you go through a few of them, but it works fantastically with very little stress on the device.
Your project inspired me to do this with my Acer Aspire 9810.
**Shows 2 FPS**
Major Hardware: We're on 2 FPS
**Turns to 3 FPS**
Am I the only one that would have liked to see dust bunnies cleaned out of the video card?
I still have and use that laptop. I have also recently bought a m11xr3 that ill restore for some retro gaming on the go :)
Great video
Congratulations on restoring the laptop to its former glory!
i also had the 7 beeps of death... removed cmos battery for 5 mins, 5 beeps restarted it now has muchhhh better temps
How does all of this have any context?
Awesome video hands down. I have an old Lenovo Laptop. I wonder if i could do the same. You are right about “More Ram, & SSD”. In your Laptop to run better. Once again thank you for posting this video.
Thank you for watching I appreciate it for sure
It's so satisfying to watch you scrape of thermal concrete off the CPU and GPU
When applying LM, you may want to test-squeeze the syringe into/onto something that wont matter. OR even better, make your first squeeze onto the cooler, away from the mobo. You can watch on linus tech tips where they accidentally shot that stuff all over the place, probably because some tiny bit of hardened material was blocking the flow and the extra pressure they used caused it to shoot all over their components.
“Blew out the fan and an entire sock came out”😂
The stick sock. 😉😃
This is looking like a laptop of sheldon from Big Bang theory
I've always wondered if it was worth the effort of spending that extra money and time to try save my 8 year old laptop with liquid metal thermal paste. Thank you for sharing the results!
I could care less about computers, but I watch most of your videos for the science included in the content. Keep up the good work buddy
Bet the guy wants his laptop back now...
Jason Lor he defo would have after the SSD upgrade as this thing would have flew like shit off a shovel after that!
"It's sticky! I don't know why it's sticky..."
Oh, you young boy... You will know when the day comes... :)
i have been told..........🍆
Yes. The fucking coating degraded.
I see you used Acrylic Conformal Coating. Most LM videos I saw, actually all used non conducting tape. This looks actually much easier and seems safer. Thanks for the video.
yes acrylic conformable coating the way to go, it will completely seal off the electronics, i have even seen people put it on electronics and run them underwater. i wouldn't recommend that but its a great product just in case you get some liquid metal where you dont want it.
You can achieve the same result by just filing the surface of the heat extractor perfectly flat where it contacts the chip and using normal thermal paste.The heat will always move from the gpu to the extractor better if the two surfaces are completely flat and in good contact.
Low fps was probably due to the thermal past being old (not saying that liquid metal didn't improve it)
have you ever seen thermal compound like that it was cray cray it was more like thermal concrete.
@@MajorHardware yes i've seen something like that... in my dead laptop that on desktop reached 58 degrees celsius xD
@@MajorHardware Yes, it's just old thermal paste, remember it hasn't been replaced in 7 years.
its because of dust in fan grid 6:28 . but this guy didn't show it in the video (reason: Thermal Grizzly is not gonna be happy so no extra cash)
ya, well if he put the thermal in the same way that he put the Liquid metal, the result will be the same, i had tried. Looks at 7:40, he s dumb or what... he should change the title to "Bad replacement Thermal compound"
Me i got even around 47-50C with Thermal compound, in stead the metal liquid s around 50-55C.
Nearly had a heartattack when you went to remove the Tim from the chips with the screwdriver. Ohhh.. Nooo.. the capacitors..
lol its a plastic chisel from my i fix it kit so now worries.
@@MajorHardware nope, definite worries still, they are tiny caps that come off pretty easily and are a pain in the ass to replace....
just take your time and you will be a o k
@@MajorHardware i always use an old credit card for scraping crust off dies as it has more contact area and hence is less likely to scratch and gouge. Good move with the iso but give it time to soak in and apply more if needed. It should go to a porridge like consistency if it is working well. I tend to find that once you've broke the skin on the crust you can remove the rest with iso dampened tissue.
Only AMD chips have capacitors on the top side of the chip, most Intel chIPs have them on the underside
I have the same one, I've been watching your videos but this video is actually super practical for me. I want to tear it down and use the components for experimentation. I didn't even click the video, CZcams sent me this via automatic queue. Happy coincidence. Also i have a enclosure for the 3d printer. The psu, Raspberry are out of the enclosure. Question is it worth replaced the pcu fan with this AW cooler? I have a closed loop watercooler with a huge radiator, is that a better option? Or don't do anything?
I know it's an old laptop, but I was seriously holding my breath when you went chiseling on the GPU and CPU, like it was some kind of a horror movie :o (i'm not gonna hold it against you in this case) :)
Hey I just noticed this was the laptop of Sheldon Cooper in big bang theory. 😁
Procesor did face reveal! this is firdt video im watching on this channel :D
Kudos for you bringing the laptop back from the dead.
Liquid metal, without contest is the way to go, but I am curious though if the thermal paste was even doing anything the way it was.
I replaced my cooler from 2011 on my gen 1 i7 because it was getting hot, only to learn the thermal paste had cracked and probably wasn't offering much heat transfer in its old age.
Boy did that POST beep get me nervous for you though ;)
Ya that beep was something lol
a frequent problem I would find on laptops is a 1/4 inch thick mat of dust on the radiator. not conducive to efficient cooling. in the video, you said "an entire sock" came out of there. that alone increased your cooling dramatically, but replacing the thermal paste helped too.
The little fan that could...
that fan takes 0 shits
AHAH One frame I was alive... then died the other one
lol your channels pretty sweet xD. Got a question though, is there a reason as to why u didn't use a screen recorder. Just wondering cuz some people like to record their screens through the outside xD
this vid just gave hope for my old laptop haha
Wow the title was not misleading , very good video too .
THANK YOU !!!
ya iw as skeptical of title to
Major Hardware can u like not tell the sarcasm?
@@shawnliu208 Much Appreciated
That is the m17x r4 my friend.
Edit: seeing the mobo, does not seem like r4. strange, did he update the lcd top case in any form?
Your getting a like just for the macbook jab. Excellent!
great idea to replace the thermal compound. Though full load temps are still high. Whats the CPU ?
I'd be disinfecting that laptop if your mate made it all sticky, was the sock that came out of the fan all sticky too
cleaning the fan did the real trick, just repaste it with any thermal paste woudl be fine too
Exactly. The laptops original TIM was stuffed and fans needed cleaning.
Depends on the laptop tbh. Tried thermal paste a bunch of times on my HP and it would still hit 90c. With liquid metal it stays below 80c and I can overclock it if I remove the battery (it reaches 92c otherwise). Probably should redo it with better tape and add VRM coolers. And also flash coreboot and upgrade CPU
@@Kuri0 you are right. after watching many test benchmarks videos, thermal paste carbon, silver, bla bla is not as good as liquid metal. YOU MUST need METAL LIQUID COOLING because less temperature=more lifespan and/or performance
@@AkashdeepSingh-qq5fw Liquid metal is conductive and should not be applied for fun. I would never liquid metal something i move frequently. If you need more performance get a better computer or a desktop.
Thx for the vid. BTW, technically isopropyl alcohol (aka rubbing alcohol) does leave some residue behind. The most potent alcohol I've tried which does NOT leave any residue behind is denatured alcohol. I find it at Home Depot in the painting department. But warning -- it is so caustic that you MUST use gloves. As a solvent, it's the most potent alcohol-based cleaning liquid I've ever found.
Thank you so much, i just bought the same laptop and this is an exact guide of what i want to do
Was currious about the 5 Beep. Forums show it's likely a low CMOS battery. Just had to read the settings again... (P.O.S.T.)
All I did was a quick search on my phone just to find out.
Thought it was a clickbait but its actually true. Nice vid man
Thank you
Cool vid man.. Subbed!
Poor friend who bought a new laptop when this just needed cooling.. alienware in that nebula red is my drem pc (though in 17 or 18 inch). awesome video man enjoyed 100%
I had a m18xr1 in college and i loved it..............until it was stolen
you don't have to apply liquid metal to both the die and the cooler.... just one is enough
dude, what are you thinking, your cooler has a copper base plate, liquid metal with copper can only be good for a month or 2
thats what i thought aswell, somebody gonna get some corrosion spell
Great video! You should get a GN Mod Mat
i wanted to but then i saw the cost, I only got the 11k sub budget lol
@@MajorHardware Maybe they will give you a free one as product placement to help out a fellow tech youtuber
This proves older stuff can still compete
In this case, mx-4 is the choise
Don't use liquid metal for everyday applications unless you plan to keep your cpu perfectly horizontal at all times. It will liquefy again when it's hot and drip out, shorting whatever is in its path. Ic diamond or any quality non-conductive paste will give you within 90 percent of LM preformance with zero added risk of sudden system death. Unless it's a macbook, it's designed to keep everything cool enough at stock speeds with the crap that it came with anyway
I have been using same thermalgrizzly on my Asus N55SF with gt555m/2410m and had it in different positions for over half year and its perfectly fine...
@@Callagwhan how hot do you let it get though?
@@Callagwhan it's definitely doable if you're aware of what you're doing and know the risks. It's just that there always will be some level of risk when introducing metal to electronics and with it becoming so popular, people might start doing it to their old 3rd gen i3 with integrated graphics and single fan that's meant to sit at 80c before even spinning up. In that case, there's just no reason to use something that could potentially corrode their heats ink and leak all over their board. You seem like you at least know the difference between RAM modules and VRMs. I'm saying this more for those who don't take the time to know exactly what theyre running before trying to augment it
From what I've seen if you use the correct amount. Which is the smallest possible amount to cover the die, which everyone i see uses 2 or 3 times more than they need. It should be okay when it comes to temperatures causeing it drip out. Now it can migrate over time slightly. From heat and pressure. But who knows how long that would take. Also the long term effect on the bare dies and the copper heatsink is slightly unknown. It will very slowly effect the copper, and if you have an aluminum laptop you better hope you don't accidentally spill any on the case or frame. I'd do it for fun on an old laptop but I'll stick to good quality non conductive pastes for my every day laptop.
Do you even know what you are talking about? Liquid metal stays liquid, it can dry up if exposed to direct airflow, but this doesn't happen as it is shielded by the heatsink.
In the case of liquid metal surface tension and the viscosity of the liquid will keep it in place, physics is your friend. If you went overboard and applied too much, then of course it will have to displace itself and leak all over your CPU.
Ive seen liquid metal after a year in a laptop and it just doesn't move as long as you apply the correct amount.
The worst application of liquid metal I have seen is where the metal escaped about 1 cm onto the CPU, far too much was applied, but luckily not quite far enough to reach any caps, and yes this CPU had no conformal coating.
Gotta love the Macbook burn there
love the video but i think the reason for the dramatic fps increase its bc the thermal paste whent old really old but apart from that nice video also if anybody else tries this they should put protection around cpu and the gpu chips bc if the liquid metal when anywhere else well there goes the laptop
Problem is you did not use a nail hardener or electric tape for protection but it is still dangerous.
i used acrylic conformable coating, but yes there is risk but it was worth the experimentation on this old laptop.
2nd video I have seen of you failing to use liquid metal properly. That cpu should be in the mid 70s if it was cooling properly. you need to increase the clamping force if your not going to mill the surface flat on the heatsink. normal compound would preform better if done the way you just did. when i do this to a laptop i just bent the little legs up ever so slightly to increase the force on the die.
You should have mounted the fan out of the cooling pipe construct because in between could be thick chunks of dust which you won't blow that easy out. Maybe you should have also covered the transistors around the GPU/CPU with nail polish...
Love your videos.. 8ghz memory. oh boy!!
It's sticky lol I don't know why it's sticky lol.....
@Dawid Jandzinski ur in special education
someone stole sheldons laptop
bazinga
That typically happens to Alienwares after a couple of years. I recently repasted my Alienware 15 from 2015 and had the same paste-turned-concrete stuff. But you gotta give it AW - their machines run for years. I nor my friends have had an AW with a hardware failure in all the years we've used them. Even the company I work for uses AW systems for GPU intensive applications.
link to liquid metal you recommend? also, how well do you think this laptop can render video with a proper ssd? I have one and ive been using it for basically typing invoices.. maybe i can render some video on the toilette with this guy?
You don't want to use liquid metal. Use regular thermal paste. Liquid metal is an enormous risk of shorting capacitors and frying the entire board and thermal paste would have achieved the same results.
Also you do not want to render a video on this unless your rendering @720 and it's very short. It will tax the CPU and GPU significantly more than overwatch at lowest presets lmao. Like 100x more.
My man, use Afterburner for the FPS counter. Fraps still uses a lot just to display the FPS, and with Afterburner you can get Temps/load % and more
Should have stuck to gelid gc extreme or similar. Liquid metal(gallium) reacts with copper.
liquid metal is gallistan (gallium, tin and other secret components), will have minimal reaction with copper, as in aesthetical and not performance deteriorating.
It'll corrode copper at an accelerated rate. Whether or not the corrosion affects heat transfer is an open question but consensus seems to be minimal to no impact.
I would highly recommend arcticlean, I get most folks just use isopropyl alcohol and call it a day but I can't stress enough the usefulness of this stuff it dissolves even the hardest of thermal pastes in seconds. I guess seeing is believing but it's just one of those quality of life things once you try it you will like it and it lasts for pretty much ever I've had mine now for 4 years the original one and while I don't take my pc apart often I've at least used it a dozen times between CPU/GPU and my friends consoles I still have 3/4th of each one too. It's really the 1 bottle that works well like a citrus based cleaner (you will smell it and understand) but I've not encountered a thermal paste regardless of age that wasn't fully dissolved in 5-10 seconds.
Stuffs like $6 you will use it once and instantly love the stuff it's perfect for cleaning old paste and even the bits of paste that gets stuck between the SMD's at 7:50
10/10 for acrylic everyone goes silicone and it's a mistake acrylic is naturally a far better insulator than silicone in regards to electricity and it's the correct choice for this type of application.
3:38 You nailed the PewDiePie voice
Great video btw
Ha! I am sure it cant beat my 1gb ram Pentinum
who else ran into the comments after hearing him say sticky
Nice job!
Damn...that heatsink/fan setup is so underpowered to begin with. Really says a lot about Alienware quality