Should Brighton keep or sell Moises Caicedo?
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He’s not in a hurry/rush, man has 10 siblings and is only on 3k a week. This transfer could change his life.
Only on 3k a week 🤣
Can I get paid £3k a week please
His motivations and Brighton's don't aline.. man needs to move
@@jaboy150 only 3 k because the top league in the world with players earining millions a month
@@londonboy8102 everything is relative with football obviously. But £3k a week is far more than the average person will ever earn
If Brighton hang on a few hours Chelsea will be in with a 160m bid on a 10yr deal.
11 years
Wouldn't surprise me
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I guess 14 years with another 7 yrs to extend
Enzo is joining on a 17 year deal
Since Moises Caicedo joined the first team, Brighton have only lost 5 in 30 games when he has played. And who is the most consistent player on the squad; Moises Caicedo. Put this in your little stats there.
Only because your club wants to sign him. If another club was to sign a player with only 26 league appearances for £70m you’ll be screaming ‘Stupid’
No wonder Tim sherwood didn’t make it in management. The kid is a class class player. Maybe world class one day. Tim the typical Tottenham fan 😂
With the Tottenham mentality, 🤣🤣😆😆😆😆🤣
😂😂😂 i think he knows hes a player doesnt want arsenal to get him
Tim sherwood is an Arsenal fan I’ll have you know but still spursy mentality
He comes from Boreham Wood, he ain't no fuckin' good, Tim Sherwood....
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As an Ecuadorian, Moises deserves what he wants , arsenal needs him , and he needs them that’s it
If they really need him then let them pay what Brighton asks, afterall Brighton put him on the map
@@renzelkhamacho1379 Arsenal have offered a fair price already which would be more than enough profit for Brighton. It’s embarrassing for Brighton to keep the players after he went on social media and said he wants to leave. Arsenal may increase their bid but they are not stupid like Chelsea to pay crazy fees, wages and decade long contracts
@O V nothing is free in this world. Brighton want that money and if Arsenal really need him .then they have to pay
@@ov9322 Brighton can ask whatever they want, he's their player, he's contracted to them. If Saka goes to Social Media for instance and says "I want to leave Arsenal" are you going to sell him if someone offers £60M for him when you want £80M? No way! You pay the asking price or you shut up, I like how Brighton are operating, they are simply refusing to be bullied
@@ov9322 Arsenal offered the same amount for Mudryk as Chelsea and a contract within 10k of ours. Mudryk just chose the bigger club
Arsenal have the right to offer over his market value and Brighton have the right to reject and stand firm. But ultimately they are gonna have a dull player in their ranks who might be regretting his decision if Arsenal go to the promised land.
It'll be up to his mentality if he can forget about it and bounce back, most young players don't and if he doesn't, they may not get this value again. Uncomfortable conversations.
But I hope for his talent and ability he can get a good move in the summer.
And also given the small money they are paying him there at Brighton!
Even if they keep him he will be doing everything he can not to get injured before the summer, he needs the money one bad tackle and its all gone. if he stays he will be a shadow of the player he won't be playing hungry.
i think it's to Arsenak to go for it. We missed Mudryk, it's ok because there is other wingers. But this one is a top CM, you don't find that easily. Arsenal should go pay his transfer price. If it's 100, it's ok. It's simply a price for a Centra midfielder of that caliber. I'm not the type of guy that exagerate players, but i saw him at the world cup, and i saw him against top teams in the PL. He's mature in all aspects of the game in midflield and hardworking;.
'...they are gonna have a dull player in their ranks who might be regretting his decision'
So a bit like Tavares, Pepe, Lokonga and Vieria then, the £140m of 'talent' who the 'world class manager and coach' Mikel Arteta has managed to the ruin the careers of. No wonder Mudryk and Felix went to big club Chelsea....
Arsenal fans, tuning into the FA Cup 5th round draw tonight for no other reason than hoping that their fellow trophy dodging neighbours Spurs get a tough draw..😂
Woolwich isn't the promised land.
What’s the point of keeping him now given he’s made that statement?
He won’t get this chance to go to Arsenal/Chelsea again as neither club will go back for him in the summer.
Either way, he won’t be the same player for Brighton on 1st Feb.
The piont is getting into the Europa League. That is pretty important for small clubs
Do you think he’ll give the same level of performances after all of this?
Whilst he might have been told he can leave in the summer- that doesn’t help him now.
What’s the point in keeping a player who is under contract 🥴
@@BenjaminKeller Europe Cup isn't worth 70mil.
As a Brighton fan I was happy enough to see White and Trossard move on but Caicedo is at a different level. He'll go this summer for more than 60 million and Seagulls will have time to pick up another star to replace him.
The only teams that can pay that are prem teams. If Chelsea get a dm n arsenal get one who will pay 80mil? Also God forbid injury or loss of form. Its a gamble either way
He could be arsenal’s kante ❤
Bro I wish
Arsenal are involved in a Prem title challenge, European football, provably the CL next season, there's plenty of opportunity for him to play with that many games.
I think brighton should sell. Player won't sign a new deal. Next season value might go down. Sell him to Arsenal for that 70m
By selling him... Brighton Europa or Conference League spot would be in doubt tho..
@@haaland5303 they not winning Europa so 🤷 I don't get why people think that is a big issue.
@@valeriudragalin8800 and they would be getting like four times that amount from arsenal, after that bid from arsenal, his mind would be unsettled and if they don't sell him, come summer arsenal and Chelsea goes for declan rice and enzo Fernandez respectively, then he'd hate Brighton for running his chance
@@valeriudragalin8800 They got money even for only qualify for Europa.. Plus ticket sale from away fans...More matches play more money.. for small team Europa and Conference league spot is big for them.. can attract more player too if they qualify for any of those europe comp
Brighton are not going to be able to keep a player wanted by arsenal or Chelsea. They might as well cash in now and reinvest the money
I wonder how Merson would answer , if his affiliation was to another club , or if Caciedo was Manchester bound .
He don't like Arsenal being a Chelsea fan
If he were manchester bound they would have invited Rio Ferdinand, hope that makes some sense
@AFTV - i hope Arsenal sign Caicedo this week coming as in next week COYG's!
Him and Kiwior will probably get the Europa League games and he will most likely get 20 to 30 minutes in League games depending on the situation of the games. Plus, he will get FA cup and EFL cup games next season. Also, if Arsenal are signing him for £70M, they will most likely find a place for him, as he can also fit in for Xhaka some times.
Partey and Elneny is injured, he will probably start sooner than you think. I doubt Arteta will start Lokonga in the league.
We have someone for xhaka coming this summer 😊 DECLAN RICE
He's definitely got more chance of winning the FA Cup with Brighton this season.
Will u be watching the 5th round draw later and if so WTF for???😂
Tim being Tim. He's still recovering from the FA cup loss.
Sherwood has clearly never watched Caicedo play before.
ex ToT manager
I can understand on brighton side,they fighting for europe competition. They recently lost trossard too.
You haven’t mention that Caicedo makes 3900 a week while the guy playing besides him does 50.000
Check your sources, he makes 15k
Tbf thats still a lot to make in a week.
If brighton really value him and see him as a main stay,put an improved contract on the table for him to sign... that should show you what is what
Its still Good to Go To A Big Club Get better salary, Coaching Facilities Etc Even you get a little less Game time, More chances to get trophy.
What’s the point of winning a trophy if you barely contribute to it I’d much rather play for smaller club and get regular game time be an important player than sit on the bench at a big club he’s clearly just doing it for the money and because of his new agents
@@charlierennie9192 Stability >>>
There is no guarantee where would Be brighton Next season but with Arsenal there is still a chance to be in Europa or win FA/Carabao In Minimum.
Also Party is Almost 30 Iguess It would Be Caicedo to replace him in Future. So why Not Its Better Opportunity with stability in His Career.
@@tuhin1264 partey will be starting for a few more years to come and Brighton are still in the prem and pushing for European football with Caicedo a key part of that push. I’m sure Caicedo can wait 6 months when inevitably big clubs will come for him again in the transfer window one of them probably being arsenal
@@charlierennie9192 I agree Also He doesnt worth 70mill+ anyways. I dont think That atleast
Keep him to punish him. That’s not how you force a move especially with little time to get a replacement. In the summer offers will still come in for him I don’t know why he and his new agent sort to do Brighton like that especially with how they lost most of their key players.
i would love to hear Thierry Henry opinion about Caicedo and Arsenal
Being an arsenal fan I do admit I hope we get him. I do think we need him for this season and it would also benefit him as we are doing pretty good in the league so far. He also wants to leave so if I was Brighton, I would try to get as much money for him but definitely let him go as now he probably won't perform quite as well for them as he has done this season. I also don't think Brighton will get as much as £70-£80 million in the summer for him.
Yes. They should.
They have to sell him, they'd be nuts to keep him. His performance will drop off a cliff if they force him to stay after all this, so they will be left with nothing instead of 70m.
I am a Arsenal fan and Brighton should do whatever they thing and want to do. He is their player and as things stand I dont think anyone has crossed the line Caicedo has made it publically clear he wants to move which is fair enough as long as he gives everything if he is not able to move.
Arsenal have made a massive offer and in my opinion Brighton will struggle to get that much in the summer with more options available. Were I Brighton I would plan some signings in the coming days using the Caicedo money and sell him once you have those deals in place. Brighton have one of if not the best scouting set up in the country and for 60 million they could likely bring in 3 or 4 top players.
Were you a real match going fan then you'd have a valid opinion, but because you're not it's nothing but worthless just like your existence.
Anyway, are you watching the draw for the FA Cup 5th round later non match going slurpie and if so WTF for you clown??? 😂
No wonder Mudryk and Felix joined a big UCL winning club like Chelsea with real fans over 8 years failing to even qualify for it Arsenal with plastic ones.
Muppets
we need a part 2 of this. is it just me or does the price value of
Is there a part 2 to your comment? You just cut off
Lokonga as part of the deal
On loan thou
@@gangflix nope
No one wants Lakonga. Arsenal can’t develop their own player, have to unsettle teams players below them 🙂
@@kd3422 Apparently the Burger King drive thru in Enfield are interested in Lokonga but only on a 6 month loan with no option to buy
If this deal isn't happening I would want rice next season. Caicedo is fantastic at interception but I still doubt his decision making on progressive passes. 87% pass accuracy so he clearly has fantastic potential. Rice is a sure shot success though and another leader in the group that's massive for our champions league charge next season.
Since Moises Caicedo joined the first team, Brighton have only lost 5 in 30 games when he has played. And who is the most consistent player on the squad; Moises Caicedo. Put this in your little stats there.
I'm hearing that getting Caicedo will not affect arsenal's effort in getting Declan rice in the summer.
How you gonna talk about passing then bring up sideways passing Declan Rice? Have you watched that dude play? He doesn’t not want the ball from his defenders. Most overhyped English midfielder of this generation. At least Jude Bellingham deserves the hype. I don’t get why people see this Rice guy as some big 80-100 million pound signing, besides the fact that he is English. There are way more dynamic midfielders who are cheaper.
@@9614cp the english tax-makes him dear.He's not worth that kind of money tbh
Partey is injury prone he's basically guaranteed to get his opportunities provided he grabs them and become established in that position.
Yeah partey was subbed out last game because arteta feared he might get injured
Let them sell him, and invest back in the club. Brighton have already shown against Liverpool today in the FA Cup that they can do without all those key players. About 5 Key players out, but they have responded very fine. Give the guy his dream move and invest in the squad.
Ikr?Brighton can easily invest with the money they keep getting
Excuse you, 70m is almost certainly a guarantee first name on the starting sheet. More so, he only needs to better than Xhaka and Partey needs a break, injury or not.
For those that cannot do any reseach. MOSES £15,000 A WEEK NOT 3.5K A WEEK. I repeat moses is on £15,000 A WEEK. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR SHALL I ADD THAT ONE MORE TIME £15,000.
Caicedo is a great player. But it's important to know that a player with half his ability who cares for their club would perform better than him. If HE doesn't want to work hard and respect the club he should leave.
Since Moises Caicedo joined the first team, Brighton have only lost 5 in 30 games when he has played. And who is the most consistent player on the squad; Moises Caicedo. Put this in your little stats there.
@@jamesvelez593 cant you see he is spurs fan they got bousman from there but the guy is not peferoming
He hasn’t had a full season with Brighton n he is requesting a trade damn crazy times
Well he better be careful look at Bissouma n Cucurella
Pressures n Ambitions are much bigger in say Arsenal than Brighton
I can wait to see him joining arsenal
Hope you over pay for him 😂
@@Tdr-jv2ncI don’t think there’s any overpaying for someone with Caicedos age and potential lol
@@hartz9921 no overpaying agree
Thomas Partey is our number one midfielder in the 6 position however he is abit injury prone at times, so Caicaido will be giving opportunities to play if the need arise especially with Arsenal based on what we have seen thus far will be playing CL next season, and it is not only about being played it is also about getting paid, because football is not only a sport it is also a business.......
@@jameselliott9866 like Tottenham, 🤣 😆😆😆😆😆😆
like someone said before arsenal should buy him and scout who find him there...
Just wait for a while for a bigger offer from Chelsea, because Potter would likely want to sign his ex-player
Enzo 120M... Caicedo 100m... Mudryk 100M.... soon a squad of 1b....is coming
Tim still hurt by that FaCup finale and Bisdouma bad deal.
We don't want Tielemens, we want what Arteta and Edu want. They want Caicedo, we want Caicedo. They want Rice, We want Rice. Those other good players can go to Chelsea ana Man utd
Yes
Grow up plastic fan.
Brighton should sell him
@@pauladjeidonkor3813 Clearly you don't know anything about football plastic fan.
@@David1991. what do you mean
@@pauladjeidonkor3813 Try to read my comments properly plastic fan.
0:30 damn that was a roast
Sell.. Brighton business model is and should be to sell because if the player loses form and his value halves that will hurt
Jeff "He's 21, can he wait a bit?"
Merson: "Errrrrrrm. You know, the thing is. Football s a strange game. You know. Arsenal are a big club. You know, it changes very quickly, football." Way to not answer a question. Excellent punditry as always, Merse.
Funny you didn't put everything he said. He went on say football changes quickly. He's talking about another player coming up
It was pretty clear he was saying no he can’t wait. Basically saying having the league leaders wanting to pay 60 mil or whatever for you is a rare chance in football. If he doesn’t leave and even slightly drops off, he’s no longer the shiny new youngster and Arsenal might have moved on to Rice or another CDM. Now maybe a lower team or a rebuilding team are interested instead too and they won’t pay you as much as arsenal who are desperate
@@cameronclarke2712 Calm down Cameron, we all knew what he meant.
@@Spicytoaster737 That is very funny, thanks!
Brighton should sell if Arsenal meet Brighton’s valuation. Up to Arsenal to up their current bid if Arsenal want to get a deal done. Simple.
They should stay away,Trossard allrdy bad after hes switch lol,cant hit a barn and cant make a freaking dribbel or decent pass. And gets angry after sub
@@bonteprete Twit.
@@bonteprete what are u talking about 🤔
@@xb4840 probably he's salty trossard left
@@xb4840 He almost gutted Arteta after sub vs City
Look at Houssem Aouar… every club wanted him, Lyon wanted huge money… he stayed - and now they can’t pay someone to take him.
There’s no evidence that he could be this good next season even. Take 70mil and run - best deal they will ever get for a DM - no doubt.
Sherwood will do anything to cancel this transfer😂
Brighton should hold on for as long as they can to push up the price and then sell. Sherwood is right about one thing some players look good in a small pond but put them in a big pond and they struggle.
Why?
They only bought him 5m
@Bison if they think he is a potential top quality player then £70 million in the current market would be a bargain. Don’t forget Brighton may have to pay a sizeable chunk for a suitable replacement.
Can't believe United turned him down two years ago for €5 million
Not a surprise.. United buy Macguire for 80 Mil. United just turn Caicedo deal down cause he too Cheap.. If they asking 100mil United will bought him fast not question ask.. I mean look at Anthony... Martial 2.0
Disappointing …
It’s not that easy. You can’t sign every player you’re offered. I learned that clubs are offered thousands of players so it’s not that straightforward.
Plus it’s possible he wouldn’t have developed this quickly had he gone to a big club due to limited playing time.
Paul Pogba story was more interesting
United scouts also thought martinelli wasn't good enough 😉
Simple, if he want to move on why keeping someone who is no longer happy with you
what do you think contracts are for? Many people are not happy in their jobs, millions in fact. How many can just leave??
@@twistedsparky06 goes both ways, then clubs shouldnt be allowed to sell either during contracts.
Could be many players that dont want to leave, but when club dont want you anymore they leave instead of not playing anymore and dont get to train with team.
@@neverwild8122 maybe they shouldn't maybe we should have much shorter contracts and both sides should honour it. My main point was though that very few people can just move on because they are not getting on.
Brighton should be able to do what they want with him. Why should players throw their weight around when they don't get their own way. Sure he wants to progress all players do. But had someone said last year to him Arsenal want to sign you he'd of probably not made much fuss. Now that Arsenal are leading the title race things are different. In my opinion Brighton should not become a selling club to the bigger teams. They've got a good bases to build on. I suggest the lad sucks it up and gets on with his football at Brighton until they decide to sell him or his contract runs out.
These moves don’t come across “once in a blue moon”. Arsenal are in a privileged position right now, but who knows where they will be come the end of the season. If they want him that badly, they will pay the premium now or still be interested in the summer.
They should sell now a profit of 65 mill on a player that wants out is good business. Besides come the summer they might not get that amount anything can happen.
Not even worth half of £90M
At CHELSEA though I can see him starting because Jorgi will leave Kante is injured n not young
At Arsenal I don’t see him starting ahead of Partey unless he is injured which he does often
While he's under contract at Brighton , it's their shout , no other club's .
Why is it? it’s his career not there’s football is a short career…what if you employer said you can’t leave to go somewhere else on better wages and environment
lets him go
At Arsenal, it's not about starting. You need to be ready to go whenever Mik needs you. He wants Caicedo and the board have to ensure we get him for Mik. He can achieve his dream with us.
He might get injured, lost form and Arsenal might not need him in summer anymore. Take the chance while you see. Gordon is an example how value can fall and also the Lyon Midfielder Hossem Aouar is nowhere to be found today after Lyon refused to sell him for £45M
He has to take it. Could be injured next week. Must go. If he does, everyone wins: - Brighton make a huge profit
- Caicedo gets salary to change his life, and plays for one of the best sides in the country
- Arsenal (or will Chelsea gazump them, again!) get a tremendously talented player, just 21, that could serve them well for the next decade.
Completely unsettled by the Arsenal bid, he will have to go, Merson one eyed as always as it's Arsenal
That's the market do you think brighton do not do that to other clubs, it happens to arsenal too. I can think of half a dozen players like cesc who teams like barca unsettle. this is the football food chain
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Brighton are an amazing club- Arsenal are an amazing club too just much bigger.When opportunity knocks ........you want to open that door!
"When opportunity knocks ........you want to open that door!"
The famous words of Sir Ashley Cole and Mr Robin Van Persie before they left 'the amazing big club Arsenal' to join bigger ones and gain huge success winning bigger trophies...😂
Arsenal need a striker and midfielder now
Bought him for a cup of tea. 😂
In a rush when he’s on 3.5k a week ? Bro has a family to support first. He can fight to develop and start in the team later and he knows it . Priorities man ! Priorities.
Also unlike Bissouma he’s coming into a team that’s playing possession based attractive football. Conte’s way of playing is what is suffocating Bissouma (who btw is still a baller) so it’s pointless to compare them both.
you have a point re Bissouma but moses not on 3.5 k a week.
What don't people understand the player has signed a legal contract and should be made to honor it ! Half way through a season you can't just go stealing or upsetting other clubs players ! Brighton have a genuine chance of top four or the F.A cup ! Brighton should tell Arsenal to F.Off !
The club interest over player interest, always.
i don't think Paul has ever seen a game of Caicedo. What is he talking about. He is way more than an holding midfielder he actually has great feet. He started his career as a number 10. And thats clear if you watch him play in my opinion.
Keep him get in Europe, if these so called teams are really interested in him they can fork over 100 million now or in the summer when he continues to play well.
Brighton wants $100 million while paying a low wage to Moises Caicedo, only $3,000 a week? That is ridiculously low. I think Brighton is too greedy. They should allow Moises Caicedo to triumph in a bigger team.
He is not worth 70 m just Arsenal and Chelsea need his type of player immediately to save their season . After February 2 he is just a average 25 m player.
Apparently a “blue moon” is a few months a year
He is so instrumental to Brighton success this season at the same time he can't possibly turn down good offers like Chelsea and Arsenal
Stats wise, Caicedo is doing slightly better than Partey this season, pay up and let's move on, we have something waiting in May.
He's over valued, n the desperation Arsenal are in n the EPL race all works in favour of Caeceido. It's a gamble signing players in January, will he be as efficient as he is s in Brighton? It's absolutely crazy he will cost that much
Brighton are doing great things they could be titled challengers in 2-3 years
Problem is their wages,can't hold on to their youngsters wen the big boys come knocking
None of their players are staying. Be fighting relegation soon
Agree with sherwood. Imagine if Arsenal lost, Martinelli, Partety, Ødegaard and Nketiah like we have lost cucurella, Maupay, Bisouma and Trossard in one season how would Arsenal feel? What if it eas derailing you chance for europe? Then someone came in for Saka for example? How would they react. If it was real Madrid doing the to arsenal, Paul Merson would sing a differnt tune.
You mean when they lost Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy little better player then the ones you mention.
Sell him.. the player wants the move.. take the money and invest it back in the squad
They should sell him. Arsenal want him. He wants to go. The offer is good.
Soon as I seen Merson I knew it would be a ridiculous statement. This guy has an agenda against Arsenal and Arteta. He said Lampard and Gerrard should be given more time but Arteta should’ve been sacked after his first season. Everyone applauded Potter for taking the opportunity to move to a bigger club in the middle of the season? Why does Caicedo not get the same treatment?
Why is everyone so sure it's Arsenal he wants to go? Chelsea bid for him days earlier.
He would happily go to any big 5 team probably even Newcastle if they went in for him
He should just stay where he's at the moment. Look at Yves Bissouma
Keep
Brighton is killing a very talented player by forcing him to stay.. If they’re worried to lose such a talent, they can buy whoever by the money they’ll receive after selling. Don’t force a player who doesn’t want to stay..
Surely there must be better options out there for that kind of money.
I’ve watched a decent amount of his games and while he has a high potential ceiling, I don’t know if he is the ready-made swap for Partey..especially now that we are in a title race.
Still very rough around the edges.
Passing range, press beating, ball release time, are just a few aspects of his game that need to be polished before we drop him in a title race.
But, at the end of the day, I trust Arteta and Edu.
Have a look at his stats, and you'll see he is 1 of the best in the league in his position already.
Paul Merson wouldn't sell Saka 2 days before the windows shots down, not just this season when Arsenal are top of the league.
Of course Brighton doesn't want to sell now they have a shot of Europe! Come on be reasonable!
if you're wrong, why are we just gonna let him get mad away?
They should sell him. The media should have the same energy for this situation as they do when it's a player and a club they approve of. Simple as that.
They should sell. But i would never go to Chelsea. They seems to only thinking about selling and buying players and nothing about training and building a team.
Yves Bissouma has never been the same again since he left. Hope this would be different. Just saying
He went to Conte and Tottenham… The graveyard 😅😂
Conte and Arteta should not be in the same sentence in regards to coaching young players.
Arteta clearly sees what he can make of Caceido and how much better he can get. Arsenal wouldn't be putting such a huge bid otherwise.
But yes. Always a huge risk with this kind of money for a 21 year old. I think Chelsea will produce quite a few examples in 2-3 years.
Unfortunately for Brighton Partey is ok.
Get 75 million and keep re-investing IF Caicedo wants
I imagine that he'll throw his toys out the pram Saido Berahino style and end up becoming a second rate footballer
Brighton might as well sell him, what are you going to do keep a unhappy player at the club?
Why keep a player who doesn’t wanna play for your club makes no sense
" with partey having A MRI , brighton re going to add up 20 million🤣🤣.
If it is like a world transfer record for a defender, I think Brighton should sell 😅
Sherwood being a bit salty there ;)
Think the deal is done. Brighton finalising on replacement
Who told you that, Ty from AFTV?
Sell him, make a neat profit and then buy another 5m player that will slot into the Brighton system as they do every year 😅 Make that 💰💰💰 Brighton!
Sell him with lots of money and bring two or three better than him, needs good scouting though.