grown-ish Season 4, Episode 17 | Phil Wants a Lawyer | Freeform
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- While Nomi considers moving across country to study at Yale, Phil wants what is best for Luna and to get a lawyer involved. Watch new episodes of grown-ish Thursdays at 10/9c on Freeform, stream on Hulu Fridays.
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He's 100% correct. There should be legal protections in place so he and Nomi have a clear understanding of their rights. He's being smart. I'd be side eyeing him if he just let Nomi bounce with Luna without batting an eye.
Right!! This is what every father in his position should do.
You don't need a lawyer every time! If they can be Amicable with out the lawyer now then they should continue it! Lawyers are for dead beats
@@byronp6453 Idk where you got this idea from. Lawyers are not for deadbeats, if anything I’ve seen more deadbeats complain about not seeing their kids but refuse to take legal action about it. This is a smart way to have a stable routine set up for a child without any conflict. These two weren’t a couple who had a baby, it was the result of a one night stand. That’s even more reason to have things in place because they don’t truly know each other
@Zion ok but not every situation is like your situation
@@hometowngirlncurls5669 it's kinda hard to see him like an equal parent when he first was absent
He has every right. Since they’re not together, he has to protect his rights as a father.
Phil isn’t trying to take custody from Nomi he’s just taking legal steps to ensure that both of their parental rights are protected. Nomi can have the best intentions but things have a way of going sideways so he’s right to take some precautions. It’s also a way of making sure Luna remains the priority and not any conflict between the parents.
As judge Judy said, fathers are not second class citizens/parents so yes good on you Phil for doing what needs to be done!
I wonder if that statement made some feminist or lesbians quit that show.
@@sanhcman666 a true feminist should support that idea. When a feminist stops supporting gender EQUALITY they stop being a feminist
@@Chelsea-zb2ji yeeesss!!! This is nothing but fact!!!!
@@sanhcman666 feminists believe in equality lol, what point are you trying to make.
@@erowo8767 not all feminist, ask them to the ones that want to cancel jk rowling
I think Phil is being mature and grown-up about this. He's not trying for full custody or taking Luna away from Nomi. He's not being threatening, he's being clear and upfront with her. Getting a third party such as a lawyer who will be up to date with the legal understandings of the relationship and custody of Luna will be able to be distant enough from the situation to think with a clear head. This is what they both need since it could quickly become an ugly battle between the two of them, where no one wins, especially Luna.
I think this is very fair. Phil isn't being vindictive and trying to take Luca away from Nomi or anything but he does have certain rights as a father. He's taking a very measured and pragmatic approach to sort out this very tough situation.
Nomi can't just go to Yale all by herself and take Luna. That doesn't seem fair to Phil or practical, it would be very hard to raise a daughter all by herself and it doesn't look like Phil can move with her. If her and Phil can sort something about to get dual custody and take turns with Luna, it sounds like that would be the best option for both Luna and the parents. It's not malicious to get a lawyer, it's practical. Nomi and Phil are not married, they are not even in a relationship, there needs to be some legal clarity.
I see a few people jumping to blame Phil but he has done nothing wrong in these last few episodes. Nomi can't just move across the country without telling anyone until the last second, which she seemed intent on doing. She's not the only on who gets to make decisions for Luna and Phil is not the bad guy for getting some legal clarity into the picture. If you really want to play this game, Nomi could be framed as the bad guy for not telling Phil and trying to move his daughter away from him.
This was a very good response, especially when you clarified the Luna is not married to her daddy...JK, but you might want to do a lil edit , I mean or not, I just laugh when I do stuff like that . The response was good tho and spot on...
Honestly, them getting a lawyer and hashing out a custody agreement is long overdue. I mean, while they both love Luna and are clearly civil enough to both be in each other's lives, they're never going to fully trust the other one. I mean, Nomi had Luna and kept her existence a secret from Phil for over a year. Phil doesn't fully trust her. Then Phil panicked and didn't want to be a part of Luna's life, so Nomi doesn't fully trust him. I don't think these 2 hate each other or that it'll turn that ugly, but this is long overdue.
He's actually doing the responsible thing here
Tbh, him wanting to get the courts involved is the smartest decision because when you are dealing with a custody situation with an ex or a one-night stand, you need to have this stuff defined clearly. Having the courts involved ensures that there’s consequences should the other party decide to just not uphold their end of the deal.
Listen sis didn’t even tell him about the baby in the first place so there is no guarantee she won’t just take her and go. Lawyer up sir!
Phil not really the bad guy here and I don’t why the show and comments are trying to make it seem that way, wasn’t informed of the baby until months after pregnancy, you can’t fault him for needing time to process all of that and since then he’s stepped up and made sacrifices to be involved in her life, he’s a good father.
Ikr
Nah fam. When he was told his response was he did not want to be involved so that negates everything else.
Exactly👏
@@lungelomabena you can’t be serious, he was single one day and had a 7 month daughter the next, you have an astounding lack of empathy.
@@lungelomabena You have to be joking. Does that mean every mother that didn't originally want to keep her baby should have their rights taken away because that negates everything else? Dude was shocked to find out he had a whole ass child he didn't know about, but then pulled his shit together and stepped up. Nomi had 9 months to prepare for parenthood - fathers should be given an opportunity to process and prepare as well.
I think this is totally fair, he just wants to ensure he has access to his daughter🤷♀️
Why do I have a feeling that Phil might (surprisingly) gain custody of Luna
I have that same feeling as well. It's not like the world is Nomi's favor, since he has a job, stable income, and a place that doesn't have 6 other party guests. But I know Phil won't be heartless or maybe Nomi might change her mind about Yale
Since nomi is just an AVERAGE PARENT, he might be.
Hopefully he becomes better than nomi at parenting.
I mean, raising a kid close to a DRUG DEALER?
@@sanhcman666 you mean former drug dealer because Vivek no longer sells drugs
So you anticipate Phil turning hostile towards Nomi and petition for sole custody? Because the courts wouldn't just give him sole custody if they both are okay with Nomi moving Luna out of state. Right now, they are only going to court to formalized a custody arrangement where Luna is moved out of state with Nomi. Also if he did want to block the move it would be on him to essentially prove that Luna's life would suck if she moved with her mother as he is the non custodial parent.
@@birdiewolf3497 I like to say keep the custody agreements out of court… they never end well. Nomi and Phil need to just draw out a plan so Luna can see them both. Summers with Phil, school year with Nomi.
I’m surprised Nomi didn’t see this coming. I would have had a lawyer on deck the minute Phil re-entered the picture. As much as she may want things to be smooth - she barely knows him. So with that in mind get everything down on paper and before the court. Just like he is protecting his rights as the dad - she needs to do the same as the mom. Let’s hope this doesn’t get ugly
She already got rights automatically, courts favor mothers in damn near any situation
One of the things I like is how true to the emotions this has been. Child custody causes so many emotional ranges for a parent and as you age how you feel about the other parent changes
i think a lawyer is pretty good idea tbh
phil probably isn’t even on the birth certificate so 😭 we shall see how this goes
True but the courts might have them do a paternity test just for court verification and then proceed after that.
Honestly he’s not wrong in this situation, I mean he has a right to his daughter legally. I hope that they can work out some type of custody thing but I think it’s nice that he at least let her know so she won’t be blindsided. Of course I’ve seen video where lawyers suggest working things out outside the court first because these custody battles can get very ugly but if it’s a big thing like Nomi moving across the country then yeah your gonna have to do that, getting the courts involved. Like Judge Judy says “fathers are not second class parents.” I am glad he’s covering himself too because we all know that the courts are systematically more in favor of the mother. Let’s hope it doesn’t turn ugly
It's better to have legal bindings schedule built so both parents know where they stand and so the child has a sense of balance living between two homes. A schedule keeps everyone prepared rather than impromptu visits and undecided trips cross country for the daughter.
And all this happen because nomi fail in love with her teacher, who clearly didnt take her serious.
Naw it happened cause she didn’t use protection, you can’t blame ur ex for everything 😭😭.
@@trefro01 Most likely she didnt use because she was dumbed down at that weak moment.
@@sanhcman666 that’s not an excuse, plenty of people have been heartbroken, not all of them had a child right after 😂.
I want this show to never stop,I'm enjoying him each day.
He Didn't even talk about arrangements before bringing a lawyer,
No mutualism
From a formal standpoint bringing a lawyer is not bad
But he didn't even check for trust
👀👀👀🤔
Nomi didn't even talk about moving to Yale prior to this and earlier she waited 7 months to tell him he was a father. I don't think Phil is doing anything wrong here. He's not even being sneaky like Nomi was, she telling her up front and they did talk a little about arrangements, she wanted to go to Yale but he wasn't going to move.
Now that’s someone who wants to be a father to their kid
That’s smart of him. If she moves with the child and she may try to control when he can see her. He just wants to make sure he can stay in her life.
Sounds like a good father to me.
Nah that boy is absolutely right to do so.
Nope Nomi Phil is correct, yall need a third party to help set legally defined boundaries so to ensure no one is at the mercy of people's emotional whims. Phil can't. In fact it is literally step one. It's great if we can all get along and do whatever. But I think the first thing co parents should do is iron out a custody agreement. If you don't need to adhere to it as strictly as possible because yall are still friends or whatever that's great.. But at least there is something between yall incase things go bad.
I think Nomi’s trying to give off the impression that she’s mad because she doesn’t want to dramatise or overcomplicate things by getting a lawyer involved, but she’s actually pissed off because she had it in her head that she’d just be able to pick up and move across the country with Luna without issue, but Nomi knows that legal intervention means she’s not and she’s bitter because this woman *cannot* handle it when she doesn’t get exactly what she wants.
This man is right! Phil is going about this the right way.
Makes sense. Custody arrangements are complex legal issues. Far better to let someone who is an expert in the law work out the details necessary to establish each party's rights and responsibilities. Not only will this ensure there is no confusion about the issue, but it also ensures that neither parent could potentially use the custody of their daughter as some kind of bargaining chip in the future if their relationship turns bitter.
I hope Nomi doesn't make this hard and neither does he. He's just trying to have a clear and fair and safe understanding and that's all it should be.
These two make me cry 😥🤗😪😓
I get the reason why he wants a lawyer involved but at the same time I don't see Nomi trying to take Lyna away from him at all. So, I feel like him saying that he wants to put a lawyer in this is way too much and could potentially turn really ugly given how their parenting journey started out
You’d be right if she didn’t emphasize that Luna was “her daughter” as if he was some dead beat when she already made a selfish decision not to tell him she was pregnant to begin with. She can’t be trusted due to that.
No I can be y’all really trust nomi judgements that girl can be petty
And for future reference it’s best he do this incase she wants to set him up so he needs to play safe. I would have done the same thing it ain’t no hard feelings but nomi gave him a hard to to be in Luna life he needs to place safe to actually be in it a long time
If he doesn’t do that now, it will get a lot uglier later on. While I can understand Nomi feeling a certain way, since no one wants lawyers and judges meddling with their businesses, the truth is getting a lawyer involved is the most fair and responsible thing to do. It is important for them to have a clear understanding of their rights so they can navigate parenting properly.
You also need to remember that when she did tell him about Luna he ran and ghosted her
Although he kinda dipped out, at least he came back and is trying to be in Luna’s life now. I think he’s making a good choice and I hope Nomi recognizes that soon.
A lot of people in the comments are forgetting that when Nomi even found she was pregnant, it was months until she even told her friends. Specifically, she told Luca before everybody else and they found out when she popped up at their housewarming party looking like she could pop at any minute. She got pregnant off a drunken one night stand with Phil. She decided that she was going to just raise the baby by herself and that was before she even gave birth. It had to take Ana looking up his name and contact info because she didn’t have ANY OF THAT. It also had to take Ana pushing nomi to talk to Phil because if I’m not mistaken, HE was the one who reached out to her. And she would’ve ghosted him. And this was after giving birth to Luna and moving back in.
You can see in her face how she is proud that he doesn't want to just let his daughter go but then again it's like man is kind of what she was hoping for I feel like! But sometimes when you're young and you get pregnant in your dreams run ones workout but with the craziest better things happen especially for the kids if you're a good parent you love the kids instantaneously
This ..is why.....be careful!
Lawyers where not there when they had unprotected pleasure lawyers where not there when she decided to have the child, lawyers where not there when she decided to tell him and wanted him to be there, lawyers where not there when he decided to be there eventually. Lawyers are there if you invite them into your life to make money and Winn while doing so will make one of the parents bad and create resentment which will definitely effect the child the parents wanted to protect.
I mean hell, it’s not like he’s trying to hold her back. He clearly said “If you’re going to be moving across the country..” meaning he’s accepted that this is going to happen. He just wants to make sure he’s able to see his daughter without any issues. Maybe he wouldn’t feel that he needed a lawyer if she hadn’t waited forever and a day to tell him about Luna. Sometimes parents can work it out on their own and sometimes it’s better to have things outlined in black and white. We’ll see how this goes.
Phil is a good guy, and I'm glad he is lawyering up. I mean... what did she expect? After making all those sacrifices to be involved in his daughter's life, then she's just going to move to Yale with her and leave him to pick up the pieces.
I 100% agree! Protect your rights.
When’s the next episode?
What is the song playing towards the end?
@RigoMelo thank you
That’s completely fair
It doesn’t matter if he’s on the birth certificate. Was a paternity test done to prove that he’s the biological father. That’s the first step, from there, he can request through the courts to have legal parental rights which establish the recognition, legally, that’s he’s the father. Then file for joint custody.
Phil basically got lawyers involved just to end up saying that he wants him & luna to go with her to Yale 🙄 smt gmt
He is right about getting a lawyer. He’s not trying to take his daughter away, just want to make sure everything is fair. I don’t understand why it’s a surprise for her. The guy doesn’t seem spiteful
Wait.... how this baby grow up so fast???
She should not have told him, if she didn't want complications.
No wonder Luca hate Phil
I would never want to up root my children from their mother unless she was an undeserving mother. So y’all just expect Phil to take her away from nomi and that’s that. I mean unless nomi agrees it’s the best choice, she should fight like hell for her child.
Hes going for joint custody and to make a custody arrangement. He just wants a plan and since they are not married, or together, its in their best interest.
@@stephaniediggs758 well I can except joint custody. But I feel like he's going to want full custody???
@@davonchill2akory224 i hope not Nomi is a good mom she should be able to take her child.
Exactly, why should Luna go and live with someone she doesn't really know that well? He should still be able to come and visit, but idk about long term living arrangements
No if he takes her away from her mother .
yeah but she also cant take her away from her dad completely if he wants to be apart of her life so i think a lawyer would help them come to good agreement
Yea, because nomi is dislussional. She has these false narratives in her head and makes serious decisions base on something that not even happening. He need to protect his rights as a father because nomi is acting like she can just make all the decisions and he is just suppose to go along with it
Exactly,like ...I know I know she messed up not telling him but this is the story men like don't recognize about when he has money!!The court is their for the child,a dad who can provide,time,money , stability Vs her money ,yes but she is too liberal,tell me who they will side with!Ugh this is why I say protect your womb !
Before the lawyer talk ffs,once the law is involved it's a whole different game it becomes adverse that's why I always advocate for mediation ,talk first.
@@blessingsbestowed2471 exactly like people acting like nomi is a saint person I don’t trust her and she can be petty and spiteful so he needs to protect his self to ensure he have Luna in his life for a long time.
I don't like him
These two make me cry 😥🤗😪😓