Best & worst Concrete saws & diamond blades from Makita, Hilti, Dewalt, Stihl, Echo and Husqvarna
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- We review Makita, Dewalt, Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo & Hilti concrete saws-side by each. Cold starts, side by side cutting, noise pollution, and whatever else we could figure out. We also test out different Diamond Blades - the Shoxx blade and Dewalts diamond Blade (this one kind of surprised me)
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I am very satisfied with the Makita 4 strokes used one for about over than two years sawing residential foundations at various depths also gone through rebar like a pice of cake she will start right up at my second pull you just need to know your engine also she will star the same even when very cold 20 below cero because if you don’t know when your engine needs to be choked you will ended up choking it that will happen to any engine no matter what brand is. I ran chain saw for about 10 years cutting timber and all together I have 20 + years of experience with different engines.😊
You may not like the Hilti saws but in the rental game they are 100% the best because of the warranty and service that Hilti provides. A customer will bring one back to me with a hole melted through the piston and we send it to Hilti and they have it back to us in 3 days running like brand new.
In my opinion you need to use the same blade on all of the saws so you don’t have blade advantages. I would like a comparison of the different saws using all the same blade. I use the Husqvarna and the Dewalt at work all the time and they both have their uses.
Stihl 10 times out of 10, I have been using them for over 20 years and the number one thing they have over all other saws I've used is the ability to rotate counter clockwise when cutting. Stihl has the nice handle bar all the way around so you can cut at any angle.
Yeah stihl
Yeah they were great 20 years ago before climate change was invented
@@justincase8037 which one?
Any blade you could recommended for cutting stone with the still ?
k770
The Stihl with the shocker would be the beast. I own all Stihl (chainsaw,blower,trimmer)because I shop local be have no reason to switch. I did trim with a Echo but it was heavy to me. I love the 2 stroke sound. Great video.
That dewalts a beast and if I were Dewalt I'd make a full-size saw with 2 batteries
Gas saws better
Yeah gas is better but for smaller jobs you can't beat battery operated
Lou Cifer they thought the same when Tesla first came out
That would be awesome like there dropsaw beast.
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I just rented the Makita from home depot. No problem starting, no problem using it. I liked it.
The best thing about battery is your power is there instantly. There's a guy out there who made a drag car powered by military helicopter batterys. He ended up crashing it because of the power being to instant and he couldn't get a good enough grip and lost control. Just think where power tools will be in I would even say in the near future.
We had a Husky k750 which I loved,the mechanic didn't seat the air filter correctly..and we killed it.
Now we have a Stihl,and it's a bit more bulky.
i like how you got people opinions and used that to decide the best, not just this one cuts faster. nice video
Appreciate that, thank you!
@@Dirtmonkey those concrete saws are awesome
we just use an electric Husqvarna at work. It is maybe a 12 inch blade. Does the job for the amount we use it for. The DeWALT cordless would probably be a better option for our crew since we don't use concrete saws for large jobs. Mostly cutting the occasional joints in driveway or garage floors.
omg You had me dying when you did the edit of Tim holding the 700. lol
Lol, thanks for watching !
I just bought my dad a brand new 770 hus. An he loves it. I couldn't make it home for first stop up he call me on video an show me her. A power house. He owns still which is a good saw. But he likes the new 770 hus. The best love u dad.
Husqvarna and stihl are the best in my opinion love the husq use it with a little water and works amazing
Husky k970. Great for stone work. Has crazy power and doesn't bind up when you push through your stone. Like to use the k760 for block and brick. Little lighter so you have a bit more control for compound cuts.
Thanks for the comments!
Not a problem man! Thanks for the videos. Love seeing all the different and new tools being used.
Saying you cannot ruin the engine the 4 stroke Makita is not true. Most concrete saws are not burnt up due to lack of lubrication as you stated, the more common occurrence would be dirt ingestion due to a dirty contaminated air filter that needs to be replaced. Keep in mind even on a 4 stroke replacing the air filter is a key factor to making your equipment last, also you must change the oil regularly. 2 stokes are still the best and will remain for many years to come. Also if you are not smart enough to mix your oil and gas properly you probably don’t need to be using a concrete saw to begin with. Next Echo should work on building a decent chainsaw before they try to make a concrete saw. The only chainsaws that are halfway decent is Echo is CS400 ca-490 and the CS600p.
Iloveapplefritters I am sorry the media has tricked you into thinking this... I own a multimillion dollar company that uses this equipment on a heavy industrial basis daily and also I used to work for the OEMs of all of the saws shown above and I have seen how things hold up on a larger scale. It’s hard to tell everyone that one way is better than another due to personal experience only, personal experience helps however you have only seen .000001 percent of the units in the world and how they actually hold up. I serviced thousands of these on a weekly basis and I can tell you that 100% handheld 2 stoke equipment lasts longer than the handheld 4 stroke if properly maintained. Generally speaking atvs dirt bikes cars etc 4 stroke last way longer however the small engine companies above have not yet perfected their platforms for 4 stroke Therefore as of today 2 stroke does lasts longer if properly maintained. 4 cycle will last a long time also if maintained properly.
And if you don’t believe me and you’d rather believe people like the ones who do these videos who are endorsed by the OEMs go right ahead. No one is paying me a dime I just like to help people from wasting their money because it is so hard to make now days.
@@Lulanda93
What is this multi million dollar company you own? I call bullshit
Sharing this to my boss (we do concrete) for the blades. We have a Husqvarna, and it works like a champ....if you are experienced with such equipment. Yes, Husqvarna does run a little loose but a firm and steady grip once you start cutting sraightens up nicely.
Thank you, hope the video helps out, thanks for watching !
@@Dirtmonkey those concrete saws are awesome
Would like to see the same blades on saws. Can’t compare without that.
Good video, enjoyed that
Stanley hands down best concrete saw is the Hilti not even kidding best 2 stroke engine impossible to flud and if you do you can start it fludded in one pull and they just cut the quickest been doing asphalt for years so tried then all out and hilti has the best support they come out swap your saw with a loaner while your saw gets fixed and the hilti van brings it back fixed and swaps them out
Big factor is to go with who your local shop likes to work with. Mainly Stihl and husqvarna. That way when there’s and issue, you get the sort fixed quick and cheap as they don’t have to send it away or wait on parts as often. K760 takes some beating. And even though it’s less refined than newer models the ts400 is the most reliable saw ever made. Just keep going and very simple.
Thanks for the comments Marcus!
11:23 cut out over 100 windows by myself out of some military barracks we were renovating. Aside from jackhammering, this stuff takes the cake, couldn’t hear right for weeks after
Gotta figure too - the dewalt saw is probably cutting faster cause the blade is smaller. It has a smaller contact area through the cut. Just got the m18 version for small cuts into sidewalk at work, and I’m impressed with how fast it is. I dont have other saws to compare it to, but in general that little saw is very impressive.
Best saw blades and core bore bits I have ever used are from a company in Elyria Ohio called diamond products.. their speedy cut saw is awesome.. great products from a American company
Funny to read this comment. I just bought a K770 and a diamond blade from them about an hour ago. Great guys! Dynatech Diamond. Anybody in the Cleveland area should check them out
The the Ohio Account Manager for World Diamond Source and I go up against DYNATECH and Diamond Products core cut series and come out on top everytime. Doesn’t matter what industry. 754-235-6334. Feel free to reach out
I have a 700 Stihl and MOSTLY love it. The problem with it is if you put it on the stihl cart, the cart frame is directly in front of the fitting to hook the water hose up to. I expect better from Stihl. If you are putting a water hookup on a tool at the very least design it so water can be connected to it!
I have a Partner K950 and i love it.
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I have the Stihl ts 800 same as 700 but can run 14" blade or 16". I run 16," for greater depth of cut. Been beating it for 6 years probably made $ 60,000 off it so far definitely a money maker and needed tool.
I run a stihl 450 bought it at an auction, dirt cheap. it has worked good for 5 years and this year we got a rebuild kit. It runs just like it was new.
ESCH “The Boss” is the best blade I’ve used. Cuts like butter.
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Hey Stan, how are your guys liking that NorthStar plate packer? I’ve been trying to decide between NorthStar, Multiquip and Wacker Neuson.
I really dont mind buying used as its much cheaper and I can fix them myself. Saves money and so far even with cost of parts/my time its worked out pretty well. Plus its fun to tinker on these kind of things.
Oh and if anyone has any "bad" saws or saws they dont want to mess with let me know!
I am buying a stihl 420 tonight for $400. First thing I’ll do is pull it apart and give a port job, I just can’t help myself when it comes to two strokes. I live at 5280’ above sea level.
Adding 2 stroke mix to a 4 stroke with an oil sump is a great way to cause plating.
the Makita has wheels to roll on concrete or ashpalt which is a nice touch! only reason i went with it i do a lot of smaller patch work so it was perfect for me
Dry cutting is not recommended for several reasons. Using water not only prolongs the blade and life of the saw but also prolongs your life. Silica dust kills
I bought 2 stihl ts420 saws for $150 for both. Both complete, one started and ran but had a broken muffler bolt in cylinder head so no muffler and the other wouldn't run due to piston, cylinder scoring. I ordered the piston/ cylinder rebuild kits for both units for $120 each and rebuilt them and now I have 2 running t420s with basically new engines and I have $390 total in both of them.
Hahahaha!!!
Did I see a wood log for a front bumper on that blue jeep!?
That's awesome!!!
What about the Hilti Saws?
I love Stihl. That’s what I use for cutting up concrete floors at work
That Stihl really impressed me. I think I'll be going with that. I was debating between the husq.
Heck yeah rite after my comment to hear you say you liked husky most made my heart so warm. Guys, do another video with a K970 and K1270! If wacker still made saws the Wacker would win I have no doubt!!!
You should test the new Milwaukee battery saw and see how it compares with the dewalt version
makita's crankcase material is too soft stretches around crank bearings. Husqvarnas shown here break arms off are prone too leaking under manifold due to stupid mount.. Stihl brakes Left hand side top crankcase mount. For best overall the stihl is the more reliable and also cheaper repair option as far as breakages. Hire industry mechanic 3 years small engines mech 27
I have been running Husqvarna power for 5 years I love my Husqvarna
T Hill Husqvarna k760 better than stihl ts420 imho
I like the warranty on the Echoes,keep up the good work man.
Thanks Brian !
TS500 is the largest saw with 2 top mounted handles. The difference between the TS700 and TS800 is the 800 has a 16" blade over the 14" of the 700.
DUDE! I wanna work for this guy.
Stanley, What is the best brand and model of Concrete saw blade to use for rebar reinforced concrete? I have a 16" wet/dry saw. Thank you for your time.
Was I the only one who was worried about Frankie when he was starting the husqvarna with his hood laces hanging that close to the blade?
And the Hilti was where?
Click bate
In the trash where they belong .
Hey man, I just wanted to throw my opinion out here on two saws that I have lots of experience with. The Makita and the Hilti. I work in the equipment rental industry and we carry both of these brands in our store. Time and Time again the 4 stroke mikita takes the Cake all around all day long!
Thanks for sharing Holden!
Not mashine blades is also wery important , some is Rubbish some is excellent.
Cayuga & 35E had to look at this twice because I drive past there frequently.... Did't know your business is in the Metro. Will you do work in Stillwater?
love your video dude. I like when you film job sites, just wondering if you are going to make anymore of those types of videos.
Thanks so much, planning on it !
I have a stihl ts 800 rated at 6.5hp with 16in blade that i love. It cuts bigger pipe. But it is heavy. I have a nice lite makitia with a 14 in blade that wont cut as deep and lacks the power but dam is it it lighter. I run what ever blade is cheap the day i need a blade. The reason i like gas saws is gas is in a bottle and battery’s need to charge. The makita has been rebuilt 4-5 times in 15 yrs not bad but a decent service bill. The stihl eats belts but we stock them. I see alot of huskys in the field and stihls. But everyone always is in aww when i pull out the 800.
I’ve been looking at concrete cutters to buy. Seems like the 800 will take care of anything I run in to. Would you buy an 800 over a 420?
Stan, how about a video on the proper masks for cutting stone?
A great idea John, thank you !
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Stihl for life
Wow that dewalt cut off saw is awesome.
It is pretty impressive I have one & very happy with it
Good for people and home use for the DIY type people.
Not just that.
It is for the pro that wants a light saw that's easy to care for and powerful.
Getting my first saw and this helped a great deal. Thanks
Just purchased a new Stihl 420. What blade of choice should I go for? I am only an occasional user so don’t need to buy bulk. One blade would last me months. Local merchant only has Bosch.
I own an older Husqvarna k750...it definitely likes to gyroscope when you are between cuts
i have the makita... i like it.. you can also flip the blade around and cut close to a wall.. I'm saying this early in the video not knowing if you cover that or not..
30 years of cutting concrete. The Stihl ts 420 is the most versatile of all the saws. The top handle is easier on your back if u need to cut a floor without the cart or just about any application. Not saying the bigger horsepower saws don't cut faster, but who wants to lug around that weight all the time.
Matt Martinson they are lighter too, they are easier to guide
Could have been a great demonstration if you'd given some thought to PPE!
Im suprised you said Hilti was the worst one you ever used. I recently used a DSH 700x and it ran and started like a dream. Was one of the better gas ones ive tried. However still aint got nun on the handiness of the stihl TSA 230 battery saw
Hilti 700 I used blew the doors off the stihls the company I worked for. Little heavier
Mines going into its 4th year. I dunno what he is talking about.
The only question i have is there any difference between the blades and speed of cut if you was to run them with water? Keeping the blade cooler ect
Appreciate the demos. However, all the video shows is the cutting of concrete/masonry/stone on a downward angle. The demos maybe fine for that specific application but to me that's only part of the story on these saws. We primarily use our saws to cut steel and various kinds of metals day in, day out. Jump on that Makita or Husqvarna and try some overhead cutting. Try it sideways at the waist. Try it more than once. Try it all day long. Nope, not going to last an hour with any of those saws except maybe the Dewalt and of course the TS 420. I cut steel from every imaginable angle on pretty much a daily basis. Climbing over or crawling under the TS 420 is the tool of choice for production type metal cutting. The Dewalt looks and sounds stout for what it is, but I'm not convinced it could withstand the kind of abuse we put our saws through. That said, it would be fun to put one in the field for a week just for giggles. As far as the TS 420 goes, it's compact and portable, it's user friendly with the top handle design, it's lightweight yet powerful and the wrap around front handle allows for cutting from nearly any angle or position. It's by far the hands down winner in my line of work. The fact that Stihl's parts and repair network is unparalleled just adds to it's appeal. We need our saws to be on the job, not in the shop. For me, it's the TS420 hands down. And as bonus it'll cut cinder block if the need arises.
BTW the 700 went through the block faster and smoother than the 970 with the touted blade. Video don't lie. Watch again.
Hi I have a concrete house that I will like to remove some walls to make bigger rooms and others to add sliding doors, I can only count with relatives for the project, what will be the best electric cutter and blades for inexperience user and the best price? Thanks
I just bought the Echo 7410. Out of all of them, which one has the most run time without running out of gas?
i have to cut a 6" thick reinforced concrete wall. What would be the better saw? A circular saw or chain saw? Would either do the job?
Looking like shawn michaels with cowboy hat on lol. Good vid!
Appreciate it, thanks!
Like Husqvarna, but I have to say that I like running Stihl saws more. I also want to say that Diteq has a great blade for concrete, asphalt, etc...
Husqvarna k1270 and K970 works great in a cart
You know what man everybody will have their favorite no doubt about it and you got a little bit of everything to help the guys out I'm still watching this but always a great video brother thanks for all the great videos man you rock👊👊👊👍👍👍👍🤙🤙🤙
Have both Husqvarna and stihl, personally I like the stihl better because it just feels good in your hands and never gives me trouble on start up
Out of curiosity how does the shocker blade due with asphalt?
Stanley, all I see for the FREE SAW deal is husqvarna saws..ready to buy 12 but need a STIHL please.. do they not carry stihl anymore?
You completely missed the boat you didn't test the best concrete saw in the market
I own a commercial masonry company and I can tell you nothing beats Hilti concrete saws and I especially like the direct-mount pump
I work in elevations between 4000 and 10000 ft - temperatures and above a hundred degrees and the Hilti runs perfect every time
And I found their economy diamond blades cut great last a long time and are priced pretty reasonably for a commercial grade blade
They're actually cheaper than some of the blades at home Depot and a heck of a lot better
Hahaha I own a commercial masonry company as well…they are doing exactly what all my guys are doing…it doesn’t matter what kind of saw they use as long as they float the valves nonstop they will turn junk. (Reving the motor to max before cutting) blades do the work nit the saw…I’m half the age of all my men and I still can’t get them to grasp this. I have 8 760s in the shop dead, 3 ts 420 dead 3 770s and one 970..the 770s aren’t even a year old. I won’t even let anyone mix the fuel but I…I hear them float the valves every day..I gave up on trying to teach them to let the blade do the work rather that racking out the saw for a 4” cut 😂
Joshua Gibbs You are right Fella, these guys are all animals and dont give a sh1t about their or anyone elses tools. Rev the bo11ocks out of them from stone cold, ram into the cut and switch off when red hot then try and run 2strokes on neat gas and diesels on water. I run my equipment to earn a living and a saw will last me around 10 years and when i am persuaded to lend one out, lasts around 10 minutes. Have a good 2022.
12:33 - that's what's she said 😂
Could you get into more detail on why you have a dislike towards the hilti saw? Is it a personal experience or multiple issues throughout the years?
I rented one so I dealt with a rental so it is not a personal owned one. It ran hot, and vibrated so badly that my hands hurt for a day.
@@justencase1523 if it weren't for reading several reviews of the Hilti cut off saws like this one I would have bought one, was so close. I am glad I didn't. I love all my Hilti products but there's too much plastic on their cut off saw and its heavy. I have two Stihl a ts410 and ts420 and just recently picked up a husqvarna k770 haven't used it yet but have a feeling I will enjoy this saw
I'm getting one in new year. Got to have it😁
Awesome David, thanks!
The k970 husky is the saw you want.
Stihl 420 beats all of them been pouring concrete since 1986 every other saws are junk getting ready to buy a Stihl 230 battery operated
I have a concrete house that I will like to remove some walls to add extra room and to add sliding doors, what electric saw and blades do you recommend for inexperienced people and the best price,? Thanks
Husqvarna K1270! Ever heard of it? 112CC in 14" or 16". I am about to buy one. I owned a K970 and I absolutely loved it. Sorry but as reputable as Stihl is I don't care for the demo saws. Chainsaws, pole pruners, trimmers, all that stuff is mint. I don't care for the demos though. I also owned a Wacker Neuson it was a 70 or 70 something. Hands down best cutoff saw I ever ran. So upset Wacker stopped making them. I wish I didn't sell mine. It was so bad a$$!!!
I have personally used the Husqvarna and it does torque in the hand pretty bad but for an experienced operator it’s a good saw
I run a Husky K760 with a 14" Shark blade. It does have a tendency to giro on ya, but you get use to it...
I like how fast those stihl engines burn out. And long-lasting... You might get a whole 10+ hours out of one.
Obviously never mixed gas right
Only thing I don’t like about the 700 is the string break off so easy . You should be able to pull the string without it snapping.
Hahaha I own a commercial masonry company as well…they are doing exactly what all my guys are doing…it doesn’t matter what kind of saw they use as long as they float the valves nonstop they will turn junk. (Reving the motor to max before cutting) blades do the work nit the saw…I’m half the age of all my men and I still can’t get them to grasp this. I have 8 760s in the shop dead, 3 ts 420 dead 3 770s and one 970..the 770s aren’t even a year old. I won’t even let anyone mix the fuel but I…I hear them float the valves every day..I gave up on trying to teach them to let the blade do the work rather that racking out the saw for a 4” cut 😂
You make a really good point. Thanks. so Don't rev it- go slower into the cut.
@@Dirtmonkey I would love to try the 4 stroke. I have a lot of issues with air leaks in the husq as well. I’m surprised you don’t like the hilti, I have never personally used one but everyone around here raves over them. Hilti has the best electric jackhammer bar none…at least 3 years ago.
We have 4 of the S800s with carts we use Hilti 16 " pro blades ,but want to try shoxx blade
Get a 1 gallon sprayer to there isn't so much dust..
Hilti makes a really good one
No they don’t
Hilti are junk they don't even last a year
Wehre is the HILTI saw??
*forgets the water*, "why do I smell smoke?"
Makita saw, absolute unit.
It's a well known fact that 4-stroke engines in general rev slower that 2-strokes, that's why up until the 90s, locomotives were all 2-stroke, and heavy-haul trucks during the 50s-80s.
This'll sound weird, but if you're ever in the south (north GA/east SC), and wanna do kinda a random demo of equipment, i'll see if I can convince the parentals and you can give us a ring.
Loose the music in background it obscures speaking.
I don't see any Stihl models on the buy 12 get the saw free.... They only show Husqvarna and personally I think Husqvarna isn't half as good as Stihl. If there's a link you can share with us on the deal with a Stihl please share.
Good lord, use some water. Your lungs will thank you, lol
I love the stihl saw the best. Husqvarna is a heavy beast, cuts good but heavy. Never tried the makita or dewalt
No water and no mask... so unprofessional.
I need one for cutting metal...a sawzall is killing my hands after all these years
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We have a sick metal blade
How well does the hilti blade cut?