Air Lift Load Lifter 5000 Airbags, First drive impression!
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I knew you would love the Air Lift air bags. I bought the Timbrens for my 2016 F350 dually but decided to go with the new Air Lift 7500 bag. The new 7" bag allows you to run a little less air under load. I deliver new campers all over the country and wanted the versatility of the air bags for the the different sized trailers we deliver. I run 15 lbs when empty and seems it rides the best. I love not being high beamed when under load anymore. Good luck with them and keep the videos coming. I love your channel.
Chris Rodriguez hi i have the 5000 lift for my 350 my rv is 19 k and i move a 30 k trailer and have no issues not sure if the 7500 series would be a over kill am i correct just a question
pipefitter Nicholson Hello. No it wouldn't be overkill. Just a bigger bag so you can use a little less air and give you more versatility. Thanks
Chris Rodriguez ok thank you for your answer
what was wrong with the timbrens?
Regal2800 nothing. Sold them on eBay and guy is super happy. Just wanted the variables the bags give me.
That's not the track bar you measured, it's the tie rod bar, from knuckle to knuckle end, the track rod bar is the rod on the frame to the axle housing.
You are 100% correct. I meant to say Tie rod.
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@@BigTruckBigRV hi I was wondering is the 450 front end wider than the 350 and if so by how much thanks
That’s not the trac bar, that’s the tie rod. The trac bar, also know as the panhard rod, keeps the axle centered under the truck. The other bar is the drag-link that connects the pitman arm to the passenger side steering knuckle.
So glad and happy for you now that you have airbags.
We now have almost the same set up..I knew you'd like the bags. Now possibly I can talk you into some softer springs in the front, with some Fox 2.5 double adjustable shocks....same in the rear..this way your 450 will ride close to a 250. The front and rear springs soften the ride immensely on my F350. The bags take over when need be and now the Sulastics just enhance my system. If you are ever in the Diamondhead MS area..look me up and you can drive my truck. Love your channel, very informative..
Looking forward to a trailering impressions video with the Air Bags, the Andersen Hitch and the Sulastics.
jhatchit me too! But he got rid of his Anderson :/ . Maybe he did a video that i missed?
Thanks for the video. Glad you like the bags. When you tow the fifth the way the bags work will be noticeable. It is always good when a product works. Again, thank for the video.
Airlift now makes spacers for lifted trucks.
TypeR632 thanks I was just wondering this last week
Great videos and very detailed about Towing i love this channel by far the best channel on CZcams for this kind of stuff.keep up the great videos thanks
great comparison still going with the timbermans for my truck. less things that can go wrong
@ Big Truck Big Rv
Great video!!
Just as an fyi, if you have a lifted truck and want airbags you can buy diferent size spacers from Airlift to compensate for the lift. Also PMF suspension makes lift blocks with an airbag mount.
Great video like these that you show how the stuff works.
I enjoy your videos. Keep them coming would love to know your thoughts on oil and fuel additives for your truck. Have you thought about adding a tire pressure monitoring systems to your truck and camper? That would be a great video.
I have been investigating this issue for a few years and I seem to have come to the conclusion that air bags plus the brackets to swivel shackles other proper combination for a good ride
Looks great! Wait until you hookup to your fifth wheel for next trip. That's where IMO the air bags will shine😉
That wasn't the track bar that you compared in the beginning, that was a part of the steering linkage, the track bar is the bar that goes from the axel to the frame, to help keep the axel centered under the front of the truck
You should be using weight distribution hitches for those heavy trailers. Air Bags make the truck level but do not address the front axle weight loss(poor steering control/braking). Using both is a dream come true.
Cool. I was worried about air bags for the same reason you were. If one blew, you could potentially hit body on axle. The joust bumper really adds that ease of mind. Also the kit isn't too terribly expensive like a kelderman.
I just realized you are josh from haylet rv
What!! The Nerd?
Great video...thank you for the information. I plan to put the exact same setup on my F 350 17 model
Ok this one has to be the most helpful one I have seen of yours. For me personally. That is something I am looking for for my 2014 ram 1500. Truck rides smooth as a Cadillac. But it has coil spring suspension in the rear which makes it much softer then a half ton with leaf springs. I don't like what I have been finding on the market and would like something more to what u have. The main purpose of the truck besides a daily driver is to tow my 32 foot travel trailer. I have all the weight distribution and I practice proper distribution but the fact of my truck squats and it's nature of the beast. I know the bags would help but can't find anything like yours
Love your channel. I get a lot of good info from you that's not one sided. I have a 04 superduty 3/4 ton.with leveling kit. Would those airbags worth on my truck? I pull a 30 ft 5th wheel.
My experience with an F-150 and a fifth wheel is that airbags solve SERIOUS bounce .. not payload.
I hear this really cool dude (or several!) gave you the idea for this setup!
Amazing videos as always big truck!
I would like Josh to put air bags and a sulastic spring on my 06 F350. Got 170000 miles on it and about to drive it all across the country taking the family and the on vacation. I want them to put in both same day I hope. I will call them. Great video as usual.
+Daryl Pollard: they sure can do a good job.Ask for Josh or Dale.
Another good video thank you
I noticed something of concern in your video when it shows the air bags and Timbren side by side. If the vehicle with the Timbren bumper were to come under heavy load causing the bumper to rest on the axle, it would land right on top of the brake line. The brake line in the airbag setup goes under the bracket. I can't believe that it would be OK to have any load support land or ride on the brake line.....
Nice job on this. To me the 7500 system is bit of over kill for a majority of the people driving them. Even with a 18k or 19k 5th wheel the 5000 model (6” bags) exceeds most needs. Also don’t know if many will ever use the individual bag adjustment feature as most loads rest on the center of axel. The wireless one system offers all the wireless features except individual adjustment. If you use your truck bed to haul heavy loads, like construction use, I get your setup however for the money we will pay for these systems I would suggest the wireless one compressor and the loadlifter 5000 air bags w/ or w/o the Jounce bumper built in.
Ric Bailey how much is the wireless one compressor? TIA Colleen G.
You going to do a video of them with a load in motion...?
Thanks for making the video for the Air Lift system! Do you know if it would work with a 4" lift? I know you said it didn't work for Tim's 6" lift.
Great job. Make that CZcams money boy!!
I have a local dealer I use for my truck accessories and I asked them to quote me an install on this system. Since my new 2017 F-350 is a 2WD DRW they were not sure if the kit was the same as for the 4WD DRW trucks. They tried calling Air Lift and they are having trouble with someone answering the phone or getting back with them regarding this question. I would have a serious problem with buying this product and not being able to contact the company if I had a problem. If you have a contact in the company I would suggest you advise them of this situation.
I found the version with a jounce stop simply rode too rough on my Ford Excursion. I ultimately went with the version without.
Cool Video. The track-bar is the bar that connects the axle to the frame. I think you mean/measured the center link?
Does it improve the over all ride? And if you weren't towing ,which one would you put on?
Looks good, been very happy with mine although I have not needed to use them on my 2017 350, truck does not appear to squat much when I hook up my 5th wheel. Seems the suspension is stronger on the new ones or something. I will have to take some measurements before and after to confirm.
Wonder Whats Next what is your load, pin weight etc total. I may be running over 4000 4500?
My pin weight is around 2800 pounds. My trailers dry weight is about 14,600.
Will there be a follow up video to your AirLift 5000 First Impression video?
Did you notice any better ride with no load with the airbags
You didn't measure the track bar, that was the bar to connect the tie rod ends
Hi thanks for the vids, but your running the 5000 ultimate with the internal jounce, you titled this video air lift 5000.
How much was the cost for the product and for installation?
Prevailing Viking: bags only are about $400, WirelessAir control and compressor kit about $600 and install about $200-300
I presently reside in Fredericksburg TX and am patiently awaiting my new 2021 F350 Long Bed. I pull a 30' Travel
Trailer. The tongue weight will be less than 500 lbs. I like the Air Lift. I will probably drive down to CC to have Josh do the install. (I was reared in Alice.) In your opinion should I get the 5000 or the 7500 bags?
Awesome video. I have a 2004 GMC Sierra 2500 HD with a leveling kit, I pull 30 ft 5th wheel would you recommend these airbags for my truck?
So what is the bottom line, Timbren or Air lift ?
So for UNLOADED comfort and a limited budget (can only afford 1 of the 2) would you install the Sulastics, the Airbags, or something else? I have a F250 with a 5" lift and have been considering the Sulatics, and have talked with Air Lift about options for a lifted truck and they said they could recommend something when I was ready to purchase.
I am in similar situation. Did you ever install either? What are your results ? Did the ride improve unloaded?
I'm looking for the same. Since I have the RAM, Sulatics are not available.
I saw one of your videos where you were saying that you were going to exchange the Ford F-450 for another truck then the new truck video come out already send me the link
Looks good! Thanks! Have you ever done a video on a rear sway bar? My F250 does not have one. Would it make a difference when pulling my fifth wheel camper?
it would help and depending on the year of your truck, you might easily be able to find one from a salvage yard from a truck with a heavier package.
its likely to be an easy bolt on affair when using factory parts.
you will need the sway bar itself, the sway bar to axle brackets (and bushings) sway bar end links which bolt to the frame, at least on my generation f250. (write down what it came off of so you can buy replacement parts if needed)
just looked at my own f250, it would be 100% bolt on, no welding / cutting required if using factory parts.
what made you get the airlift vs. firestone? Do you have enough seat time to compare it to the timbrens?
Regal2800: Airlift has a better warranty and wireless control system. Plus, Firestone doesn't offer a kit for an F450 pickup
I see you have your socks on boot up everyone I've asked where I live says they should be boot down you should do a video on what is correct
Thats not a trac bar sir but we knew what you are talking about.
They make spacers for lifted trucks
Air bags, Timberns, have you ever tried air shocks with the mix or seperate
I've looked at all Your Air Lift videos, the ability to level the truck is obvious, but my issue has to do with side to side lean as experienced when turning a corner or with uneven pavement with a tall max capacity load in the bed. I'm carrying a large slide in camper. I have the upper TorkLifts installed , considering the lower TorkLifts as well, Timbrens, Air Lift bags, or Big Wig sway bars. Which would help most with this? My truck sags about the same as your F450 with the 5,000 lb. load.
Which model compressor kit did you use? This must have a dual path then, since you mentioned the monitoring ability of the one you have.
Great video...I have a 2021 Tacoma Double Cab and pulling a 2019 RPOD trailer.. I’m using a Anderson anti sway hitch and getting Air Bags installed next week. $2,100.. Wireless.. Any advice for a beginner pulling a trailer?
Can these be used on 1989 Chevy Silverado trucks?
Ya there is a kit if not by air lift ther is a few manufacturers in Arizona like Chassis Tech whom I've used and installed many of ther kits on your year truck for towing and other purposes they've had a few bad reviews by DIYourselfers who didn't know what ther doing so they blamed the maker which is wrong but they stand behind ther products w/a lifetime warranty.. also ther is airmaxx also in Mesa, Az I have ther Maxx Tow kit w/a 580 compressor & an air tank on my '11 Silverado and love it came with everything to do install
If you air up the bags without any weight in the truck or trailer would the rear of the truck raise or stay stock height
I thought this video was going to talk about yhe airbags. I have new 2020 F250XL 4x4 truck and was going to install Sulatic springs but sounds like you said like you have sulastic springs as well as the 5k# lift airbags. Sounds like a good combination. Do you still have a stiff ride with no load? I don't want the stiff ride (whether the truck is loaded or not). I'm trying to get a smooth ride. Can you help me? Thanks Full-watch (twice). 👍🏽🙂.
great video...looking for airbags myself I have a 2013 2500hd Duramax towing a fifthwheel trailer and a pin weight around 1580 lbs plus cargo. Any suggestions would help for the right ones
I really wanted to hear a review on the Air Lift bags in a trailer towing situation. But now you're selling the truck. ??????
Do you live in Corpus?? That intersection looks familiar.. Right by Catfish Charlies.
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Did you get a chance to try your 5er with the bags? I just noticed that on the airlift site it says these are not compatible with 5th wheel hitches. Does that mean that the factory ford puck system isnt compatible with these bigs? Thanks for the great videos.
Works fine with my B&W turnoverball Gooseneck hitch.
I have a 1999 Dodge dually Xplorer campervan. Would the air bags give me a smoother ride? I put new shocks and idler arms to help with sway, but I live on a dirt road and the van does not do well on it. Would the sulastic springs help?
Any limitations on axle droop with these airbags? I have used rolling sleeve types and had to have limit straps to prevent the bags from pulling off the end caps at full droop.
You absolutely can put bags on a lifted truck just build spacers
My truck camper drops my rear wheel well space to 1.25 inches below my front wells. Enough to need springs/bags?
How much can an air bag twist and bend?? Like i mean if its not straight up and down. Can it inflate and deflate even if the back is not straight
you didnt measure the track bar. you measured the tie rod. the track bar is clearly visible in the video and its not what you measured.
Black70Fastback: correct, misspoke
Who's "Miss Poke"? Is that the old bag down the street. JK
How do you know what psi range you should be in for any given load? Is there a chart?
Alexander McKay: not really, just feel and eyeball it
Set it to where you're satisfied with the ride height.
Best way is to check the ht of your front from ground to wheel well, then check back doing the same. On my camper, slide in pickup setup, the rear goes down about 2.5 inches, so just raise it so its level with the front.
Get rid of leaf then you will have the smoothie ride
I am looking to make the ride as smooth as possible on my 2012 f250 3/4 ton 4x4. Its not a dually but I was hoping on some quick feedback from you. Is the Airbag set up plus solastic shackles plus equalizer anti sway bar setup the best way to do this?My wife has had several back surgeries and I'm just trying to remove most of the jolting and jerking from my travel trailer. Which is a 2019 29' Hideout. Right now I have nothing, Its all stock even stock shocks. In your opinion what is the best set-up as far as suspension. I want it to ride as close to a Cadillac as I can. I want to be able to travel across the country without being beat to death by my truck and travel trailer.
Man I need to do something to my 2016 F-250, I love my truck for the most part but it freakin rides like ass. How a company can put out a $60K plus truck that rides like utter shit is beyond me.
ok, some inside experience, i had the same model bags installed in my 2500 ram, and for some reason or maybe heavy reason, the air fittings blew out, what happens next was, ok so you have the internal jouncer to prevent the truck from bottom out, well the jouncer went straight to the bags and just poke a whole and destroyed the bags, now I have the ones with no internal jouncer and have worked just the same, I think if something happens again I will just in need to be careful until I reach my destination with the heavy load, I believe it won't happen with a trailer, only with having over 4500lbs of load in the bed, so, my bad
i have a 2004 ford f250 super duty 4x4 can i put air lift on the front as well as the rear will it give a better ride .
also i plow with truck would it help limit the weight when having plow on
So I can’t run airbags if my truck has a lift?
you still running the Sulastic springs with the air bags?
So does 5,000 pounds mean more ? Or total?
What system would I need to buy for a ram 5500? I am seeing a lot are made for 350 or 3500 or less.
Does it increase your gvrw rating Legally ( re rated )
It’s a tie rod not track bar
Does it ride better with the air bags?
Dragon Raptor: it does. I run 15psi driving around
Does anyone know what type of airbag or part number I would need to be able to drop the air and lower the back of a pickup for loading. I see some have internal jounce bumpers and others do not but from the videos I've seen you can dump air an drop it down like a diesel rv for example.
What is the new truck that you bought
Could you please advice what psi you are running with the 5th wheel hooked up and truck level.
weatherherk1: I imagine ill be around 55psi. Ill let you know though.
It whatever PSI it takes to get the truck to sit how you want. I've had mine anywhere from 15 to 95 PSI depending on the load.
Javier Martinez i understand that...I was referring to 5th wheel towing because we both are now running similar systems.
weatherherk1 I understand that, and the answer is the same. If you're looking for a specific number then start with 55 like he said and adjust from there. Every truck is different, there is no specific pressure to run.
Javier Martinez 👍
how much does a system like this cost?
Have you ever thought about deleting your truck?
Isn't the track width of the front axle narrower on the F450 than the F250/350?
bigshafe AFAIK it's (optionally) wider which allows for a tighter turning circle.
bigshafe: it's a total of 6 inches wider
I have a idea for a video for you
What is a track bar?
its not what he measured. he measured the tie rod.
the funny thing is that the track bar is clearly visible within the video. its the that has one end connected to the frame and the other end connected to the axle running parallel to the axle.
Black70Fastback: yep, my mistake.
They are like a cliff bar but you eat them before a track event. Get them at Costco by the box.
Bags look impressive in use, and probably give a superior ride; however, my opinion is still tainted by expensive issues with the air suspension on our recently demised Range-Rover. Purely based on the pain-in-the-arse factor when the bags degrade, I'm definitely still in favour of the Timbrens. We got around 110k miles until the air suspension gave trouble, which ain't bad, but the repair bills still give me nightmares a year on. I felt like I'd been raped. Coil or leaf springs for me from now on. Been looking at Ford Rangers this week, very impressed.....
Not a track bar
Interesting that he could not use airbags with his lift kit. As I said on the install video, I have a 6" lift and airbags. Maybe it is because I have a Chevy.
Shuffler703: he just didn't feel the need to add airbags for a lifted truck.
I read on one forum that a guy with a lift kit had to use graded all thread and made his own bolting. makes sense and would be an easy custom fitment.
Hey man, I'm using a 2016 sierra 3500 for hotshot trucking. I'm usually pulling about 25k with the gooseneck and the ride is just unbearable with stock suspension, should I get these or would they get destroyed under the weight? (Note the tires are larger than stock, 305 70/r17). I'm using shocker hitch and it's better but still really rough, if this doesn't work what should I get?
In my experience these would be an awesome addition for a Hot Shot rig. Being adjustable for varying loads you would love them. The ride and handling is great, and no more squat.
That's clearly not the track bar but okay...
Just wait till you hook up you're 5th wheel, and then you will be completely sold on air bag's.
How about just not lifting your truck.
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