Sony FE 20mm f/2.8 APS-C Lens Review, Full-frame Use, Sample Photos, & 4K Video | Round Glass Review
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2024
- If you’ve been around this channel a bit, you’ll have heard me say that many new or modern lenses are too large, too heavy, and that lens designers need to focus on making high-quality optics that can be carried easily. No better example I know of on the market today proves that this task is possible than the Sony 20mm f/2.8 pancake lens. This lens has delivered some of the most captivating work I’ve created over the last year with details so incredibly realistic that they almost look fake. There are many, many photos in this video that still give me pause to look at them and think ‘I can’t actually believe I took that.’ I think that’s high praise, by the way.
If there were anything I could change about this lens, it would be that the molds for the aspherical elements could be polished to eliminate the onion ring out-of-focus point effect. I really, truly, hate that look more than basically anything else that a lens does. That said, stopping down this lens a bit eliminates that problem, as does shooting in settings where bright lights aren’t in the background. So if you, like me, loathe that look, just stop the lens down.
There’s a lot of good to be said, though, for a lens like this. But here is the best thing I can say: Sony, I want and would buy more lenses like this - small, light, well made, and with exceptional color, contrast, and sharpness backed by nice out-of-focus areas wide-open and stunning source-point stars when stopped-down. If that sounds like a lot to ask, yes, of course it is. But this lens proves that it can be done. You’ve set the bar high here and now it’s your job to meet or beat that bar again.
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Video Index:
0:00 - Intro
0:11 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Round Glass Review
1:46 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Specifications
2:44 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Tips & Tricks
4:06 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Seidel (Bokeh) Analysis
8:20 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Diagram
8:52 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Video Use
9:48 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Strengths & Weaknesses
12:51 - Sony SEL20F28 20mm f/2.8 Pancake Lens Review
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Glad I'm not the only one that still likes/wants smaller lenses.
Definitely not. There are a lot of us.
Super fun on full frame
2:00 you say its 13mm. I think it's the other way around. On a 20mm lens the apsc camera sees a 30mm image and the full frame will see a 20mm image including vignette.
You know what, I did that math assuming that it had a 20mm equivalent FoV on APS-C. I think you're correct -- a 30mm FoV on APS-C and a bit narrower than 20mm on FF.
It kinda looks like that vignette is due to the rear cover. If removed it could even cover the whole sensor. That trick works with many older sony apsc lenses
Good question and I honestly don't know, but I kinda want to try now. 🤓
I just bought a ZVE1 and this lens to test the small combo! Thnx for that video! I hope I like it hahaha
Nice! That should be a great combo.
Nice review, I just purschased a NEX5 for compactness as a second camera, and I think you made my mind about this lens! Other reviews criticize it a lot, but I don't think it's that bad and there is nothing like it regarding to compactness and prize.
Thanks and greetings from the Basque Country!
Fantastic and this is a great lens. I hope my photos of Bilbao captured Basque Country well! :D
@@DavidHancock Haha yes, but i reccomend you to come to see more places and small towns, the essence is there!!
you re right on. Manufacture spend little in creating a more compact lens with high IO optic .
Instead all curretly released wide angle lens are heavy & super large!!
While it's true that the larger lenses often correct aberrations better, the question becomes how much? Is the coma smear 6 pixels smaller for a larger lens? If yes, I don't need to sacrifice the bag space and weight for that.
hello, thank you so much for the in depth review of this lens that I can't find anywhere else... what do you think this lens performed on apsc camera? i love the small form factor of it but some says that this lens has just a touch of better quality compared to kit lens even phone camera this days...
is it worth buying for long term used?
thank you...
This lens is GREAT on APS-C. I used it on my A6400 and A5000 when I had those and loved the combination. I am a-okay buying used lenses and think it's a great way to get a good lens for a good price.
Love a 24mm!
Definitely. It's an awesome focal length.
Basque Country = very nice 👌 Lens seems pretty decent as well.
We loved it. I'd go back in a moment and explore more. I'd like to visit the smaller towns in the countryside.
I was looking at this for the A7cr as an ultra compact lens. Good that it only loses a bit around the edges in FF mode, good for cropping rather shooting in apsc mode. Great for a street pocketable solution shooting at 5.6 to 11. Would you agree?
Yup
@@DavidHancock just spoke to someone who said the latest AF does work properly with this lens. I have no idea as I am a canon shooter at present. Apparently hunts!!
@@ChristianLawrence All I can say on that is the AF worked a-okay on my A7 IV. I could see any lens hunting if the AF isn't configured correctly for the subject type, as that happens to me if I have it set up human and try to photograph an animal.
@@DavidHancock good to know thankyou
i've had a bad copy of this, the center is always soft and even the kit lens at f3.5 is way sharper than this. sold it and hope i can get a better copy in the market cause i really like small lens
That's a bummer. I wouldn't think Sony would be a company that lets a low-grade lens pass quality control.
Regarding the lens, I completely agree with your analysis. I have a copy and I really like it. But I was curious about the editing of your photos, a very interesting effect, an editing tutorial would be viable, on how you got the result in the photos in this video. Thanks.
Thank you! Which photos do you mean in particular? I generally don't edit too much -- adjust some sliders in raw, sharpen a bit, and if needed do a slight crop.
@@DavidHancock Thank you for your attention. For example, photos at 10:28 12:29 I really liked the treatment
@@JorgeNelson.S IIRC, basically the same way. These were shot at manual aperture and shutter speed settings -- I forget which and don't have the exif handy -- with auto ISO to control exposure. In post, I edit raw. The four key sliders (and what I do with them) are highlight (drop the highlights, usually a lot), shadow (increase to recover details), white (minimal boost to make some color channels pop), and blacks (minimal reduction to add color saturation.) exact settings on those sliders vary by lens, lighting, scene color, etc. Then I bump the sharpness 1% per sensor megapixel rounded up to the nearest 5. So 35% on my A7 IV. Saturation and vibrance I usually leave alone but if they are moved I rarely adjust them more than 6%. 3 balance of editing will be horizon correction and dust removal. I also synchronize those settings across the photos and then inspect each one to see if any changes are needed. As I go, I'll delete the ones I don't like and open the ones that remain for raster editing, which involves a quick auto contrast to see if there's a benefit or effect (often neither) and then a quick unsharp mask at 15% with a threshold of 20 (I think those are the numbers.)
Let me know if all that makes sense or not.
@@DavidHancock Yes it makes sense. Thanks