Having owned both a supercharged ls & turbo ls I found the supercharger far more fun to drive. The instantaneous power & acceleration throws you back in your set while I found the turbo a bit boring. Power delivery was a lots of nothing & then suddenly lots of everything. I also found the whine of the supercharger was awesome as well.
For the LS platform.... True street car, go PD supercharger. Dyno queen or 1/4 mile car, go turbo. Want increased power everywhere, go PD, want ludicrous power in a narrow band, go turbo. There's a reason GM went with PD superchargers on their hero cars.
I would like to see this turbo Ve with a smaller turbo. Would love to see the diffrence in power curve with a smaller turbo. Obviously probably wouldn't be as good up the top end and less peak numbers but never really seen many dyno's with smaller turbo's on V8's as my (limited) understanding is they would come on to boost earler. Anyway mate love your work. Not trying to say I think it would be any better but would lovet to see the diffrence if you ever get a car in the shop with similar set up with a smaller snail. Cheers :)
Great video. You hit the nail on the head. Comes down to how you want the power to come on and where you are mostly going to use it. I went PD SC as I mainly use it on the street. Loads of fun instantaneously.
Great video, some people lack common sense chasing big peak numbers and they cant get it to the ground. The amount of times i see big power cars with crap tyre's get dusted by a less powered car with grip.
great video mate !!! im a huge turbo guy have had them on most of my cars, but on both my SS's i have magnasson superchargers, not saying they are better, but for the street i think they are just so much more fun. especially in a manual. But its exactly what u said, horses for courses, if i was running my car down the drag strip or doing top speed runs turbo is the way to go, but for v8 on the street i think a supercharger can give you all the fun u need
Yes!! Great video!! Completely agree with everything said. Yes, you're so right!! Alot of people just focus on Peak Power! But that doesn't tell the whole story. That's why Alot of people don't understand having these Humongous 1400hp turbos for the street!! Just doesn't work! Unless your running nitrous or something. I've seen 2jz engines at 6000rpm that were completely flat on the street. Is almost like the engine revs!! But the lag is just so much...I mean you literally have to be on it!! To get that turbo to spool.
EBay twin turbo the way to go. 150 bucks to buy and they last a long time. Might not be as good as the name brand turbos but who cares. Still plants plenty of power over the Lsa boys.
Having had both in various states of tune, I’d say turbo is better for a street car.. the power and especially the torque in the cars I’ve owned was more accessible in everyday driving with a turbocharged car
Here's a question from a dummy, how close is the comparison of pro charger to super charger ? And thanks for the vids, i smiled every day after you did my car, man i miss it.
Great video 👌😎 , without knowing the turbo size ?? At only 600kw Wouldn’t it be beneficial to run a smaller G42-1200 or alike to get way more power under the curve ?? And get the best of both worlds so to speak. Turbo’s for the win in my book 👌👌👌
Having owned both a supercharged ls & turbo ls I found the supercharger far more fun to drive. The instantaneous power & acceleration throws you back in your set while I found the turbo a bit boring. Power delivery was a lots of nothing & then suddenly lots of everything.
I also found the whine of the supercharger was awesome as well.
Is it true the supercharger falls on power at the high end say if i wanna run all the way to like 7k rpm
Great video Stathi :) Blower all the way for the street from my experience.
Absolutely good all round package for the street
Great video and excellent explanation.
I’ll go the 2650 blower for a genuine street car.
For the LS platform....
True street car, go PD supercharger. Dyno queen or 1/4 mile car, go turbo. Want increased power everywhere, go PD, want ludicrous power in a narrow band, go turbo.
There's a reason GM went with PD superchargers on their hero cars.
I would like to see this turbo Ve with a smaller turbo. Would love to see the diffrence in power curve with a smaller turbo. Obviously probably wouldn't be as good up the top end and less peak numbers but never really seen many dyno's with smaller turbo's on V8's as my (limited) understanding is they would come on to boost earler. Anyway mate love your work. Not trying to say I think it would be any better but would lovet to see the diffrence if you ever get a car in the shop with similar set up with a smaller snail. Cheers :)
Awesome video! well explained great to see the dyno overlay
A good honest and informative video,thanks !!!
Great video. You hit the nail on the head. Comes down to how you want the power to come on and where you are mostly going to use it.
I went PD SC as I mainly use it on the street. Loads of fun instantaneously.
Great video mate!
Great video, some people lack common sense chasing big peak numbers and they cant get it to the ground. The amount of times i see big power cars with crap tyre's get dusted by a less powered car with grip.
Facts
Great review mate ive gotta blown vz clubby and it for does give me a smile every time i drive it.. blower for a street car for sure
Great video mate
Great common sense explanation
Well done sir
They are equally great!
awesome.
great video mate !!! im a huge turbo guy have had them on most of my cars, but on both my SS's i have magnasson superchargers, not saying they are better, but for the street i think they are just so much more fun. especially in a manual. But its exactly what u said, horses for courses, if i was running my car down the drag strip or doing top speed runs turbo is the way to go, but for v8 on the street i think a supercharger can give you all the fun u need
Yes!! Great video!! Completely agree with everything said. Yes, you're so right!! Alot of people just focus on Peak Power! But that doesn't tell the whole story. That's why Alot of people don't understand having these Humongous 1400hp turbos for the street!! Just doesn't work! Unless your running nitrous or something. I've seen 2jz engines at 6000rpm that were completely flat on the street. Is almost like the engine revs!! But the lag is just so much...I mean you literally have to be on it!! To get that turbo to spool.
EBay twin turbo the way to go. 150 bucks to buy and they last a long time. Might not be as good as the name brand turbos but who cares. Still plants plenty of power over the Lsa boys.
For me personally the feeling when the turbo brings that power on is what does it for me haha.
Having had both in various states of tune, I’d say turbo is better for a street car.. the power and especially the torque in the cars I’ve owned was more accessible in everyday driving with a turbocharged car
Here's a question from a dummy, how close is the comparison of pro charger to super charger ? And thanks for the vids, i smiled every day after you did my car, man i miss it.
Would you think these 2 cars would run similar times and the strip?
Great video 👌😎 , without knowing the turbo size ?? At only 600kw Wouldn’t it be beneficial to run a smaller G42-1200 or alike to get way more power under the curve ?? And get the best of both worlds so to speak. Turbo’s for the win in my book 👌👌👌
What sort of Diff Ratio would you run in both of these set ups ?? 3.45 3.7 3.9 ??? In the MANUAL of course
There is no right or wrong answer, like everything it all comes down to application and what you are going to do with it.
2650 whine & dine😎
Noticed the HP and Torque on your dyno graphs dont intersect at 5,252 rpm, any reason?
it does, if i set it to HP & FT Lb and set both Side axis the same it will cross at 5252Rpm
@@IndependentMotorsportsoh my mistake different units haha 👍
As a run of the mill SS owner with a weekend car. Both are expensive as hell. Man cars are expensive 😂
Manual I’ll go supercharger , auto I’ll go turbo
Mate just by curiosity how much will it cost to install a supercharger in v.e ss commodore
This is a very open question with lots of different scenarios, without knowing anything you would need to budget somewhere between 17k & 21k
@@IndependentMotorsports thank you for your time .
Why doesn't anyone do bi-turbo for low revs?
You just don't have enough room to do that and it would send the buget to the Moon.
Reality is both setups will not have traction on the street so they will feel the same.
Turbo. Period
Turbo always needs tuning and doesn’t like hot weather
😂 yer like superchargers love the heat .
4500 stall problem solved
Race them ….
This discussion is dead lol anything that takes power to make power is not that great , turbo and nitrous is best way to go
Get a blower...
Neither!
What about a Centrifugal Pro Charger is it pretty much the same as a top mount SC or is that a different animal.
That's a different comparison again one for another day