Star Trek Into Darkness - Spock Outwits Khan And Cripples The USS Vengeance

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  • With the Vengeance in the hands of Khan and on the verge of destroying the Enterprise, torpedoes sent by Spock detonate and cripples the Vengeance right before both ships start falling to Earth.
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Komentáře • 831

  • @meatballsnacker-sitregald6919

    Dealing with Vulcan's technicalities is like reading a fine print on a Term of Service. You'll never see it coming.

    • @darthpepe2994
      @darthpepe2994 Před měsícem

      Kind of like Apples TOS. We've all seen South Parks "Human Cent-ipad" episode lol

  • @mookie756
    @mookie756 Před 10 lety +815

    I gotta say I love Karl Urban in these movies. He may simply be doing his best Deforest Kelley impression, but it's a damn good one! Brings back a lot of the old Kirk/Bones chemistry.

    • @DarksaberForce
      @DarksaberForce Před 10 lety +17

      The only thing is in the new movies they seemed to have traded Bones with Uhara. Like the old Bones should have more time with Kirk and Spock.

    • @nurse425
      @nurse425 Před 3 lety +12

      And that's why he needs to come back as Dredd!

    • @5133937
      @5133937 Před 3 lety +17

      It’s amazing how Karl Urban managed to keep up Dredd’s perma-scowl through that entire movie. Seeing him as Bones or any other character without that scowl makes it hard to believe he was Dredd. Great actor.

    • @dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189
      @dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189 Před 2 lety +3

      Yup! They managed to capture that cast formula. He was great in "RED" as well.

    • @TheArcher101
      @TheArcher101 Před 2 lety +8

      Damn it, man, I'm a Doctor not a torpedo technician!

  • @ladyofthesith1943
    @ladyofthesith1943 Před 10 lety +759

    One thing I've noticed in this Star Trek universe is how much the shields suck. Even with shields still up, the Enterprise was losing large chunks of the hull.

    • @MarcusDarkstar
      @MarcusDarkstar Před 10 lety +40

      their like SW shields no apparently :P JJ Abrams should never have touched Star Trek,,, that said he might make good Star Wars movies.

    • @ShehbazAhmed5
      @ShehbazAhmed5 Před 10 lety +107

      you forget that the people who made the Vengeance probably had access to everything about every Federation ship so Marcus would have Enterprise's shield frequency which was why he badly damaging the enterprise when they were at warp. And plus I'm sure Khan knew exactly where to fire to hurt Enterprise's shields the most so ya if the Klingons had all this info, same thing would've happened

    • @KenoshiAkai
      @KenoshiAkai Před 10 lety +71

      It's always that way in the movies...at least the TOS-era movies. For one thing, they have the SFX budget to smash up the pretty looking ships, and for another thing, it establishes greater dramatic tension to show ships actually taking damage rather than have everyone toss about on the bridge and push buttons frantically while they babble about shield percentages.

    • @ShehbazAhmed5
      @ShehbazAhmed5 Před 10 lety +8

      Patrick Bright I agree, it is something that is great about these new Trek movies

    • @seanhampton4456
      @seanhampton4456 Před 10 lety +41

      Yeah, I never understood that. They say stuff like, "Shields at 25%!!", yet chunks of the hull are being blown off. I would say shields are at ZERO% if they are making holes in the ship!

  • @primeholyassasin20
    @primeholyassasin20 Před 6 lety +132

    I realize now that Spock really wasn't lying. The torpedos were indeed Khan's, he just didn't mention he took his crew out of them. I guess he realized Vulcans don't lie and tell the truth, but they don't have to tell the WHOLE truth.

    • @joe9739
      @joe9739 Před rokem +5

      Saavik: You lied...😮
      Captain Spock: ... I exaggerated.

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 Před rokem +7

      Spock didn't lie. He said the torpedoes were his, not his crew.

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Khan asked the wrong questions.

    • @thebluedragon07
      @thebluedragon07 Před 8 měsíci +5

      He lied by telling a technical truth.

  • @kkelseym
    @kkelseym Před 6 lety +716

    I mean... I liked this film.

  • @cirrusB612
    @cirrusB612 Před 2 lety +157

    When I first heard Spock say "Will the Enterprise prepare for imminent proximity detonation" I immediately realized what had been done and I got chills. This is probably Spock's best moment in the trilogy.

    • @playstationarusu
      @playstationarusu Před 2 lety +11

      Except there's no reason to warn the crew of the detonation. There's no atmosphere for the shockwave to travel through :/

    • @cirrusB612
      @cirrusB612 Před 2 lety +15

      @@playstationarusu No reason to fault the rule of cool though! Eh, maybe he was warning them about the space debris that would get knocked about in the explosion, the new debris that might be in the area because of the crippled Vengeance, or whatever. Or maybe it's scifi, and scifi makes a lot of mistakes sometimes. Or I don't know anything about science. No reason not to love it!

    • @kirklanyoshinaga8953
      @kirklanyoshinaga8953 Před 2 lety

      @@playstationarusu nah he wanted to brag to Kirk about his master stroke. :)

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 Před rokem +2

      @@playstationarusu Well still Gravitational waves do occur
      Especially on some of my weapons
      That's why its good to have a warning

    • @machdude3366
      @machdude3366 Před 6 měsíci

      @@playstationarusu You do know that shrapnel in space is a VERY dangerous thing, right? Shields down and got huge chunks of ship hurtling at you? Still dangerous.

  • @MrJustonemorevoice
    @MrJustonemorevoice Před 7 lety +502

    You gotta feel for Khan at least a little bit.
    He believed once he had ran that the Admiral had killed his family.
    The he learns they are alive
    He gets them back
    Then he believes they are dead again when Spock detonates them inside the Vengeance.
    Emotional roller coaster for the poor guy

    • @noivern8869
      @noivern8869 Před 5 lety +17

      He deserved it tbh dird not knowing his crew was actually alive and well

    • @J_C_CH
      @J_C_CH Před 4 lety +20

      Nah fuck him

    • @appleheaddefender
      @appleheaddefender Před 4 lety +13

      Mr_No_One the cry is heartbreaking

    • @appleheaddefender
      @appleheaddefender Před 4 lety +4

      Evil Gopher no fuck you

    • @aboosker4656
      @aboosker4656 Před 4 lety +21

      HE WAS CRUSHING SKULLS FOR A LIVING IN THIS FILM HOW IS HE A POOR GUY (i get the irony )

  • @chrispeplinski7306
    @chrispeplinski7306 Před 9 lety +211

    I love how spock outwits khan,

    • @bamarine247
      @bamarine247 Před 9 lety +47

      Khan: "You can't even break a rule, how could you be expected to break bone."
      Spock: "Well...I'm smarter than you."
      Khan: ".........*facepalm*"

    • @jakeblues875
      @jakeblues875 Před 9 lety +3

      TEXAStooTAL L At which point I expected Khan to go "... **facepalm** D'oh!"

    • @lordbry470
      @lordbry470 Před 6 lety +7

      Outwit? Without future spock, this scene wouldn't have happened lol.

    • @hellohello3700
      @hellohello3700 Před 6 lety +5

      In reality khan would have outwit and destroyed everyone as he posseses, a genetically enhanced brain. This is just hero's always win irregardless of technical and realistic variables.

    • @HoneyMochi
      @HoneyMochi Před 6 lety +2

      hello hello These are the adventures of the Federation Vessel. USS Mah rey sueeeeeeee

  • @KleinpeterHank
    @KleinpeterHank Před 2 lety +19

    I thought Spock was going to trick Kahn with the “Vulcans do not lie” because he’s half-Vulcan. When I saw that he did give him the torpedoes but never said what was inside, gotta admit that’s clever Af.

  • @Sam-im5tc
    @Sam-im5tc Před 7 lety +53

    Fun fact. Benedict Cumberbatch plays Khan in this film. He will also play Shere Khan in the Warner Bros live-action Jungle Book film. Seems he likes playing villains named Khan.

    • @SiBanstead89
      @SiBanstead89 Před 5 lety +4

      Even more of a fun fact is that the villain in the following movie was played by another actor who has also portrayed Shere Khan

    • @alexxbaudwhyn7572
      @alexxbaudwhyn7572 Před 2 lety +2

      Unless he Khant

    • @jucklowe
      @jucklowe Před 2 lety

      If that's your idea of fun,,,, you need a girlfriend.

    • @Sam-im5tc
      @Sam-im5tc Před 2 lety +2

      Imagine being toxic on a 4 year old comment.

    • @theoutlook55
      @theoutlook55 Před 2 lety

      @@Sam-im5tc good comeback.

  • @ElGringoCastellano
    @ElGringoCastellano Před 7 lety +53

    Khan should have just warped away instead of playing with his food.
    If he wanted to destroy the Enterprise and its crew, he could have done so at a later date.
    When you grasp power suddenly, it is wise to minimize your vulnerability as quickly and as soon as possible. Securing and holding your position is more important than total victory in the near term.

    • @joeshmoe6930
      @joeshmoe6930 Před 2 lety +2

      Not to mention he's supposed to be superior, yet he allowed, nearly BEGGED for the "enemy" vessel to warp aboard a shitload of torpedoes. And then he was just like "ok cool I trust that those weren't ACTUALLY torpedoes, like you say."

    • @InvincibleSol
      @InvincibleSol Před 2 lety

      This is one of the best comments I've seen.

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 Před 2 lety

      Oh it's much worse than that actually. Given that Khan forced the Enterprise to lower its shields he could have easily scanned for life signs and would have instantly realized that his crew were no longer in the torpedos.

    • @joeshmoe6930
      @joeshmoe6930 Před 2 lety +1

      @@danlorett2184 Could'a, would'a, should'a, but he didn't.

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 Před 2 lety

      The torpedoes were timed, even if he'd warped away he'd still have blown up

  • @kevaninthe4135
    @kevaninthe4135 Před 9 lety +240

    Benedict Cumberbatch is a boss.

    • @aztecaddress6356
      @aztecaddress6356 Před 9 lety +9

      he is SMAUG!!

    • @KrautGoesWild
      @KrautGoesWild Před 9 lety +1

      azteca ddress Okay! That does it! Twenty seconds ago I was content with owning the "TLOTR"-Trilogy but now I am going for Hobbits, too.

    • @GESSO217
      @GESSO217 Před 8 lety +6

      +Life in the 413 A Boss, but no Kahn.Ricardo Montalbán was better.

    • @ishmaelforester9825
      @ishmaelforester9825 Před 7 lety +9

      He should be the new Bond, but they are not even hyping the lad. More talk about Hiddlestone and Elba. What? If Cumberbatch wants it, he should get it. He is a genuine fine actor and it would be interesting to see him as Bond.

    • @asecretone
      @asecretone Před 6 lety +3

      Cumberboss

  • @IdgaradLyracant
    @IdgaradLyracant Před 10 lety +189

    I have to agree it's more then likely the torpedoes that detonated were detonating a priming charge not an actual full payload, the full payload was likely removed to make room for the cryotubes.

    • @TheAkashicTraveller
      @TheAkashicTraveller Před 4 lety +15

      Yeah, if those had proper warheads that should would be gone.

    • @effersonfrank
      @effersonfrank Před 4 lety +26

      Indeed. And consider the fact that Spock didn't detonate the torpedoes remotely; they were beamed over timed to explode, WHILE Kirk, Dr. Marcus and Scotty were still on board. Khan didn't beam Kirk & Co. back to the Enterprise until after he had his torpedoes, and Spock had no way of knowing whether Khan would carry through on his end of the bargain.
      If those 72 torpedoes were expected to completely destroy the Vengeance, then Spock would end up killing Kirk, Carol and Scotty.
      So I agree that Spock knew that the warhead-less torpedoes would merely disable the Vengeance, knowing that Kirk & Co. were safe on the bridge.
      Plus, if Vengeance had been totally destroyed, with or without Kirk on board? End of movie, right there. You'd still have popcorn left.

    • @tanall5959
      @tanall5959 Před 2 lety +14

      Don't forget that, after Marcus and McCoy disarmed the first torpedo and found the cryopod, it was later revealed that it was the fuel pods that had been removed, not the warheads. It's also been revealed in past Trek that torpedo warheads are dial-a-yield.

    • @JaredlS10
      @JaredlS10 Před 2 lety +4

      @@tanall5959 yep, way I have always believed is the torpedos go into the launch tubes and then get a precise amount of anti-matter and matter to set the yield. Like Malcolm said in Enterprise "Photonic torpedoes. Their range is over fifty times greater than our conventional torpedoes. And they have a variable yield. They can knock the comm array off a shuttle pod without scratching the hull, or they can put a three kilometre crater into an asteroid."

    • @heintz256
      @heintz256 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JaredlS10 am I the the only one that found ST: Enterprise at least a bit enjoyable?

  • @XkriskrossX
    @XkriskrossX Před 9 lety +124

    0:06 IT'S A TRAP!!!

    • @gertrudemcfuzz74
      @gertrudemcfuzz74 Před 9 lety +30

      Josh Friedman LOL! That's what I thought too. Who knew that Ackbar had a cousin in our galaxy?

    • @HITHEREWINSTON
      @HITHEREWINSTON Před 7 lety +7

      I would honestly be surprised if that *wasn't* a direct reference/easter egg.

  • @annamaytonic8329
    @annamaytonic8329 Před 2 lety +26

    The fact that from the first movie it directly showed that itvwas an alternate universe, that is what opened me up to watching and enjoying the newer films. It wasnt another remake of the original necessarily. It was a reboot with a known, calculable twist.

  • @fgutz1970
    @fgutz1970 Před 2 lety +57

    One of the best part of this film for me was how it showed just how powerful phasers and photon torpedoes would be if real.

    • @jucklowe
      @jucklowe Před 2 lety +5

      I'll say,,,, shit blows up by the moon and suddenly crashes into San Francisco, 250,000 miles away. Plus, get a girlfriend.

    • @winxwest2964
      @winxwest2964 Před 6 měsíci +1

      if you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk @jucklowe

  • @sanyahikari7072
    @sanyahikari7072 Před 5 lety +17

    Sulu's like: "Who forgot to pay the electric bill?"
    😆 LOL

  • @thecocomonk2657
    @thecocomonk2657 Před 2 lety +10

    “Shields at 6%!”
    Oh no we’d hate to lose all that protection they are were providing us.

    • @joeshmoe6930
      @joeshmoe6930 Před 2 lety +2

      I see a lot of people saying this, but since we don't see an attack against a ship with no shields, we don't have anything to compare it to. Maybe the ship without shields would have taken a single shot to completely annihilate?

    • @owenschnitzler9340
      @owenschnitzler9340 Před 3 hodinami

      Well, when Kirk took the Kobayashi Mary test in the 2009 film after the Klingon shields went down it only took one torpedo each for the ships to be destroyed.

  • @Ithinkiwill66
    @Ithinkiwill66 Před 5 lety +19

    God damn dreadnaught ship nearly tore the Enterprise in half! But revenge was diffently a dish well served cold to Khan 😉

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 Před 2 lety +1

      Yet the Dreadnought-class starships would later evolve into the Ambassador, Galaxy, and Sovereign-class starships of TNG. In fact, the Sovereign-class starships can in essence be looked at as the direct descendants of the USS Vengeance as they were designed solely with combat against the Borg collective in mind.

  • @coralroper6876
    @coralroper6876 Před 10 lety +71

    Spock, that was well-done...but mean. Khan is going to kill you now. Still, well-done.

  • @TraustiGeir
    @TraustiGeir Před 6 lety +16

    Now, Khan, repeat after me:
    "I...am...a...sucker."

  • @joezingher4770
    @joezingher4770 Před 8 lety +42

    At time 6-8 seconds, it looks like Admiral Akbar from Star Wars....

  • @mikebronicki6978
    @mikebronicki6978 Před 4 lety +12

    Best part of the plot / storyline in a very good Trek film. I love these actors.

  • @maidros85
    @maidros85 Před 2 lety +36

    It's funny how after this moment when they were, basically, in orbit around the Moon (which is a huge distance from Earth), Enterprise started falling toward Earth in no time. JJ really doesn't get space...

    • @erikscott5709
      @erikscott5709 Před 2 lety +6

      The moon is 1.28 light seconds away. In the time it took to read that sentence, they could have done it at one half impulse. With working inertial dampers they wouldn't even spill their beers. Star Trek Physics FTW. It's Checkov's acronym, not mine... "Faster Than Light".

    • @dsdy1205
      @dsdy1205 Před 2 lety +1

      @@erikscott5709 Sure, but impulse is equivalent to thousands of gees of acceleration. If they were just falling it's going to take a few days to get to Earth, just like anything else that falls from that distance.

  • @MarkyVanHelsing
    @MarkyVanHelsing Před 6 lety +5

    No matter how much trouble she's in, the Enterprise will always bounce back....You rule Big E!!!!

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Před 2 lety

      At least until it self destructs for the umpteenth time.

  • @senjiukanuba5569
    @senjiukanuba5569 Před 9 lety +5

    This is why Spock ought to be the captain. :)

  • @luissoulless1976
    @luissoulless1976 Před 2 lety

    As soon as saw it, I nonstop’d watching over and over and over again

  • @outlander8825
    @outlander8825 Před 8 lety +7

    Dudes, I haven't been keeping up with the shatter, but another thing, the Enterprise was in warp, and indicating they still had a long way to go (like days or so, at least). And once they got shot out of that warp drive field, they miraculously popped out of warp and on the Moon's orbit. And that is a Royal Spaceballs Mel Brooks maneuver.

  • @Amarouq
    @Amarouq Před 7 lety +1

    haha Jim comes racing into the medical bay screaming for Bones, and Bones is just sort of 😒 "what is it now." true friendship.

  • @Dfturcott
    @Dfturcott Před 10 lety +9

    i liked this part, i didnt see the switch coming and the possibilities it allows is intriguing.

  • @JAMES-qp8tz
    @JAMES-qp8tz Před rokem +2

    00:25 "Will the Enterprise prepare for imminent proximity detonation." - Spock 2011

  • @J_C_CH
    @J_C_CH Před 4 lety +8

    If you think you can outwit Spock, think again

  • @RoninDave
    @RoninDave Před 10 lety +44

    I'm Khan! My superior intellect can't conceive of someone arming the torpedoes and blowing them up inside the ship which is something I would do with my superior intellect if I was in their position

    • @seanhampton4456
      @seanhampton4456 Před 10 lety +15

      I'm Khan! My superior intellect can't conceive of another ship using the command codes to lower my own shields! And I would change the command codes with my superior intellect if I was in his position.

    • @RoninDave
      @RoninDave Před 10 lety +1

      Lon Stucky still a better movie by far and more plausible

    • @seanhampton4456
      @seanhampton4456 Před 10 lety +19

      Agreed about it being a better movie. But both movies are just trying to make the point that the need for revenge blinds you.

    • @kmichael9787
      @kmichael9787 Před 10 lety +17

      I thought in both films, and the episode, Khan's intelligence was constantly overshadowed by his need for vengeance and his emotional attachments to his people. It is perhaps for that reason Spock, although (probably) not as intelligent, but with a better grasp of his emotions, is able to beat him.

    • @CarrionCrow993
      @CarrionCrow993 Před 10 lety +15

      In my mind Kahn got arrogant when it seemed he was in full control, and relied too much upon Kirk's conscience and that of his crew's. Also, when you're that close to getting everything you've fought for for so long, you don't see much else.

  • @liamdudeeee
    @liamdudeeee Před 9 lety +92

    I hope we get to see some actual space battles in the next movie. Not gunna lie, but the Enterprise didnt fire a single shot in the entire movie.

    • @WaveForceful
      @WaveForceful Před 8 lety +17

      Peter Ian Staker Star Trek isnt always about space battles, I'd honestly like to see a movie like the motion picture again tbh.

    • @yoshitotem
      @yoshitotem Před 8 lety +3

      +Cheburashka207 Er... I believe the correct term there would be IF not WHEN. Russia isn't that stupid, as technically the whole "mutually assured destruction" thing is still in effect, but more so in the background as the cold war has come and gone. Regardless, if Prussia were to make such a move, the USA would undoubtedly retaliate. Neither country is willing to sacrifice tons of innocents just to jab at the other, its a fools gambit.

    • @loganthekrogan2182
      @loganthekrogan2182 Před 8 lety +1

      +Peter Ian Staker I'm american and i find your statement hilarious.

    • @michaelmartin8337
      @michaelmartin8337 Před 8 lety

      +Peter Ian Staker P.I. Staker - PIS-taker - COME ON! 8-)

    • @TheUndyingCrystal
      @TheUndyingCrystal Před 6 lety +2

      Злой Волшебник If you really think Russia has the military power that it did back then, you're an idiot. They're strong, but they've never been as strong as they were under the Soviet Union, and likely never will be again.

  • @kenp7814
    @kenp7814 Před 2 lety +2

    He's locking Phasers but uses torpedos

  • @captrodgers4273
    @captrodgers4273 Před 8 lety +293

    shields are useless in jj abrams star trek

    • @HellsRaven4444
      @HellsRaven4444 Před 8 lety +100

      +capt rodgers In return, they buffed up their Hull strength immensely. Seriously, the amount of punishments both ships took would have easily taken down any ship from the original universe. Hell the Vengeance took 72 advance Photon torpedoes _internally_.

    • @Phoenix_254
      @Phoenix_254 Před 8 lety +49

      +capt rodgers Shields have been useless in many iterations of Star Trek. Next Generation shields seem to go down by 30% after a few shots. Then you watch the sacrifice of angels battle in DS9 and many ships are destroyed after a few shots.

    • @captrodgers4273
      @captrodgers4273 Před 8 lety +8

      yes yes yes. but as you can tell shots go right thru the shields. at least the sheilds in regular trek stopped a few shots from ever causing any psysical damage to the ship

    • @austrone8586
      @austrone8586 Před 8 lety +2

      +capt rodgers you cant see the shields in the old trek the shields are like cages like circular surrounding the ship

    • @johnilarde8440
      @johnilarde8440 Před 8 lety +4

      +MagoPie nope they are NOT originally round cause the Enterprise NCC 1701 A has a different shield the shield of it covers the starship and shapes like the starships then in the generation and TNG the spherical shields was introduce then in Nemesis the shield just like the Enterprise A was re used so the original shield was shape like the starships

  • @PrometheusOfVideos
    @PrometheusOfVideos  Před 10 lety +6

    Spock told Uhura "to assemble all senior medical and engineering staff in the weapons bay" so it wasn't just Bones who armed all the torpedoes

  • @Timeward76
    @Timeward76 Před 6 lety +3

    The vengeance's phaser sound effects are very cool...

  • @ChrisBricks
    @ChrisBricks Před 10 lety +5

    Love the use of Star Wars (well, Skywalker sound) explosion effects when the Vengeance is crippled. Sounds fucking awesome in 7.1 Blu-ray :D

  • @avanstrash6149
    @avanstrash6149 Před 2 lety +9

    this movie is weird that how the heck a space ship located near moon with incapacitated engine (pretty much) can get sucked by earth gravity and fall into earth atmosphere and the whole thing happened in time span less than a day.

    • @InvincibleSol
      @InvincibleSol Před 2 lety

      Yeah, I tried this in space engine and realized how unrealistic it was.

  • @AlastairjCarruthers
    @AlastairjCarruthers Před 2 lety +12

    I like how he just didn't notice dozens of cryotubes right in front of him

    • @rambo8863
      @rambo8863 Před 2 lety +1

      You never been on the phone whit someone and you ask them
      if they know there your phone is?

    • @justinklenk
      @justinklenk Před 2 lety +1

      @@rambo8863
      Haha, NO - but we DO catch your drift, bro... 👍😂✅

    • @tdog652041
      @tdog652041 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rambo8863 I’ve been on the phone and panicked because my phone wasn’t in my pocket, not my finest moment.

  • @KoryDaoust
    @KoryDaoust Před rokem +2

    I don't know why there was so much hate for Kelvin timelines. It was so, fresh. USS Vengeance, excuse me? Violent, glorious, evil, magnificent. Kelvin was fun.

  • @Danielspellman
    @Danielspellman Před 10 lety +51

    I really don't understand people nitpicking the details of a movie. It's a freaking movie! Do you not enjoy anything? You must be fun at parties.

    • @bmwsux6
      @bmwsux6 Před 10 lety +7

      Kyle Denny
      you mean like when they nitpick the fact when not shown in ANY previous movie that r2d2 can fly?

    • @monsterx3055
      @monsterx3055 Před 10 lety +1

      then you missed the sub text of the original concepts behind star trek

    • @TheBellman
      @TheBellman Před 10 lety +5

      People nitpick a movie because it's not distracting them. A good movie will still have lots of flaws, but you'll be absorbed by the movie enough not to notice them. When people are nitpicking a movie, it's because it's missing something. Here it's because the movie is not only shitting on the technical lore of the Star Trek universe, it's a crime against the very essence and concept of the show.

    • @Solaxe
      @Solaxe Před 10 lety +6

      TheEliteGir Cry more. "Oh new movies are so bad everything new is bad balbalabal"

    • @monsterx3055
      @monsterx3055 Před 10 lety

      because, you're not very bright.....

  • @FreakyTeeth
    @FreakyTeeth Před 2 lety +2

    You know if the timer on the torpedo was shorter, but more people on the enterprise would have lived.

  • @Jackw00pw00p2
    @Jackw00pw00p2 Před 10 lety

    Nice play there Spock, Khan wanted the torpedoes and he got em. Just forgot to check for his people inside em XD

  • @EthanJohn1986
    @EthanJohn1986 Před 10 lety +5

    Peter Weller is AWESOME in this movie

    • @KenoshiAkai
      @KenoshiAkai Před 10 lety +2

      One does not mess with Admiral Robocop and come away unscathed.

  • @Lizziefan118
    @Lizziefan118 Před 9 lety +9

    Watching this makes you wonder the NCC-1701 USS Enterprise must be a tough one after all the punishment she got.

    • @bjeh001
      @bjeh001 Před 9 lety +1

      Dante ArteriustheRavenRebel Watching this makes me wonder why the JJprise is always getting its ass kicked.

    • @Espo97734
      @Espo97734 Před 8 lety

      ***** nah thats the Michael Bay Enterprise

    • @yoshitotem
      @yoshitotem Před 8 lety

      +Dante ArteriustheRavenRebel And Princess Breanna In the state she was left, she was barely holding herself together, one more hit from the Vengance's weapons barrage and the enterprise would've been no more.

    • @Qusza2007
      @Qusza2007 Před 8 lety

      +Dante ArteriustheRavenRebel And Princess Breanna LoL... "plot armor" want to have a word with you. ^_-

    • @Lizziefan118
      @Lizziefan118 Před 8 lety

      Qusza2007
      Let's all leave that option off the shelf.....

  • @EvileyeV
    @EvileyeV Před 6 lety +5

    They should have the vengeance against Nero's ship BADASS

  • @kaijuhub3937
    @kaijuhub3937 Před 10 lety +211

    STOP HATING ON THIS MOVIE!

    • @kaijuhub3937
      @kaijuhub3937 Před 9 lety +6

      ***** This was voted the worst at a Star Trek convention by fans and fans constantly complain about the Kirk/Spock radiation scene since it is a scene from Wrath of Kahn with the roles reversed.

    • @LP-hj6vg
      @LP-hj6vg Před 9 lety +9

      Niru-Kun And they're right. Honestly, I recently watched the Wrath of Khan, The Search for Spock and The Voyage Home again, and they're astoundingly good. Great music, compelling, humorous, full of action and wit, and deeply philosophical (The Wratch of Khan and The Search for Spock) or satirical (The Voyage Home). Just really beautiful films with beautiful messages.
      Into Darkness, on the other hand, is a very nice and entertaining blockbuster (I liked it), full of exaggerated action with a plot that doesn't really make sense, and not quite as good as the first new Star Trek because it was the same effects again. Why didn't the filmmakers develop further the theme of Volcan's destruction and discuss how the pain is dealt with and how the Volcan race is preserved? Why didn't they write a film about this? For example, a planet similar to Volcan that the Klingons are also interested in because its natural resources are vital for the Empire or any moral and philosophical conflict. In short, the new Star Trek is not what particularly Leonard Nimoy's Star Trek was about, and that's a real shame.
      Also, watch The Wrath of Khan again and watch Into Darkness right after it. You'll be blown away by the visual effects and action of ID, but you'll realise that the references are forced and don't do TWOK justice, and that there's no message to it but entertainment. If you want entertainment, then have fun watching Star Wars (very nice films too).

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 Před 7 lety +13

      +EarthHound Much like assholes, everyone has an opinion. My only gripe is that the haters like to act as if you're an idiot or never watched the original Star Trek if you don't agree with them...

    • @mo_fanthe_magic_god7954
      @mo_fanthe_magic_god7954 Před 7 lety +8

      those fans cannot accept new change both the old and new one are good but style and topic is different they need to be open minded should they

    • @garethfairclough8715
      @garethfairclough8715 Před 7 lety +3

      Goku, you'd be surprised just how accepting fans can be of new trek.
      What they cannot accept, however, is utter shite. This film is an example of utter shite.

  • @iw_legendary_sayain2215
    @iw_legendary_sayain2215 Před 6 lety +1

    Bendthatdick Cumonherback is a phenomenal actor.

  • @lexijamie3193
    @lexijamie3193 Před 6 lety +1

    Sulu: they've locked phasers on us sir!
    Me: was that a torpedo just hit the Enterprise

  • @francisilarde123
    @francisilarde123 Před 10 lety +2

    Spock trolled Khan

  • @snitox
    @snitox Před 3 lety

    0:59 them yelling Bones and Bones just standing there lol.

  • @ProtonFilms_Mark
    @ProtonFilms_Mark Před rokem

    They used the exact same trick on the Borg in the comics. In IDW's To Boldly Go the crew is redistributed across the fleet while the Enterprise A is under construction. The Borg have arrived from the Delta quadrant looking for the Narada (as it evidently featured Borg tech heavily and they tried to find out how the Alpha quadrant managed to replicate their technology). The USS Endeavour under Kirk lead the Romulan Imperial fleet to attack the Borg sphere, the Romulans weakened the shields enough for the Endeavour to beam survivors of the USS Concorde out of the sphere and replace them with armed torpedoes.

  •  Před 7 lety +1

    72 torpedoes explode near the Vengeance's warp core and yet it survived. That is one tough ship!

    • @sethcourtemanche5738
      @sethcourtemanche5738 Před 2 lety

      They were most likely at least 7 decks from the warp core

    •  Před 2 lety

      Probably.

  • @bobojo37
    @bobojo37 Před 4 lety +3

    Internal antimatter detonations, of that scale and number, should have annihilated even the reinforced hull of the Vengeance. Just observing that.

  • @ribaldi
    @ribaldi Před 7 lety +59

    72 photon torpedos detonating inside a ship simultaneously didn't destroy that ship? I don't think so.

    • @jordanreed3675
      @jordanreed3675 Před 6 lety +18

      Mr. Blue Cherry they did say that the fuel and warhead compartment was removed so that the cryopod could fit into the torpedo

    • @dmj-pt7cm
      @dmj-pt7cm Před 5 lety +2

      Umm, yeah. 72 explosions from INSIDE the ship! No shields to "help". Good-bye, ship. If the Enterprise survived that it'd be laughable, but we'll let this one slide because...Khan is on the ship and it's just not time to kill him off yet. We may need him for a sequel. And we definitely need him to fight Spock mano a mano.

    • @martinigasolini4062
      @martinigasolini4062 Před 4 lety +1

      @Casanova Frankenstein At the very least it would have started a chain reaction and other combustible materials on the ship would have exploded. It's not believable no matter how you look at it, for comparison the Klingon ship of the dead or Sarcophagus in Discovery which was was easily as big if not bigger than the vengeance was destroyed by just a few photon torpedos.

    • @schwarzerritter5724
      @schwarzerritter5724 Před 4 lety +4

      Since Khan put his crew into the torpedoes, it is probably just the engines exploding.

    • @mikebronicki6978
      @mikebronicki6978 Před 4 lety +7

      But the USS Vengeance was equipped with plot armor, so it would have taken at least 75 torpedoes to destroy it.

  • @pedrowolffenbuttel9763
    @pedrowolffenbuttel9763 Před 7 lety +29

    "Shields are at 6%"! But still, those phaser fires hit the hull of the Enterprise like there were no shields, I simply do not understand!!!

    • @randomdrifter
      @randomdrifter Před 7 lety +19

      Shields have an upper damage treshold mitigation value, so damage would be mitigated by that amount by the shields while the rest go through
      Without the Enterprise's shielding, the damage would have been much worse I imagine

    • @MrArcticShadow
      @MrArcticShadow Před 7 lety

      What the hell does that mean?

    • @randomdrifter
      @randomdrifter Před 7 lety +15

      Easiest way to see it is by a simple theoretical mathematical formula:
      Incoming Damage = e.g 1000
      Shield Mitigation (aka reduction of damage) = e.g 600
      Damage recieved by vessel in this scenario = 1000 damage - 600 shield strength = 400 damage pass through recieved
      Without shields, the vessel in question would recieve the full blunt of 1000 damage onto it's hull instead
      The numbers used here does not reflect the numbers in the movie however

    • @MrArcticShadow
      @MrArcticShadow Před 7 lety +2

      Zeph Ng
      This isn't a video game where some player uses a defensive skill and some math equation in the background automatically reduces the damage taken by a certain amount. Though it's not much better by being a sci-fi movie, but it makes no sense for them to take partial damage and then say shields have gone down to XX%. Either the entire damage is blocked (with some shield still remaining) or the damage is partially blocked (with all the shields gone), how can there be any middle ground?

    • @randomdrifter
      @randomdrifter Před 7 lety +5

      There can be, it's not so black and white as yes/no
      No shield emitters have infinite energy output, so when the damage treshold goes over what the shield can mitigate, the damage just follows through, with the energy used to sustain the shield drained from the shield's power source

  • @BlackfeatherLegion
    @BlackfeatherLegion Před 6 lety +32

    Can someone from a non-nostalgic/old school Star Trek fan background try to explain what is so wrong with this film? To me it is one of the greatest films ever made, granted I also have never watched classic Star Trek but I shouldn't have to anyway since this is a different timeline entirely.

    • @SiBanstead89
      @SiBanstead89 Před 5 lety +15

      To some Trekkers, the original series & movies are the only thing in the canon thats worth it, they have no time for the 24th Century period or the reboots because it isnt "their trek"
      They also feel that the vision of Gene Roddenberry vision must be adhered to at all times..like there will be no racial conflicts or displays of sexism..etc (which I find odd considering the outfit choices the females had in the original show) and any deviation from that is seen as sacrilege
      I Love Star Trek for what it is, entertainment. And If I learn something in terms of how to respect ones self and other, its a bonus.

    • @colepowers6894
      @colepowers6894 Před 4 lety +5

      They hate it because it's not the same
      Ignoring the fact that Nero's incursion changed EVERYTHING
      Hence why things aren't the same
      Frankly I'm ok with that

    • @Matihood1
      @Matihood1 Před 3 lety +3

      @@colepowers6894 Wait, Nero's incursion wasn't a thing in the original series? You learn something new every day...
      I actually watched both the new movies and the original series and enjoyed both, understanding that they were made in completely different time periods by completely different people probably. I never watched any other series like The New Generation, just the very original one and I still very much liked the movies.

    • @davidho1427
      @davidho1427 Před 3 lety +12

      @@Matihood1 yeah, it never happened in the Prime timeline. Hell, Nero didn't even exist in TOS. It was Nero's actions that caused the entire alternate reality that we know as the Star Trek trilogy.

    • @Matihood1
      @Matihood1 Před 3 lety +6

      @@davidho1427 An alternate timeline... That's a pretty cool way to do a reboot, not gonna lie.

  • @Eclipton
    @Eclipton Před 10 lety +2

    Only one was armed. The explosion from one torpedo set off a chain reaction detonating all other torpedoes in the vicinity. They did it that way because they knew Khan wouldn't have time to scan all torpedoes at the time, making him unaware of what would happen until it was too late.

  • @ReaLifeHDchannel
    @ReaLifeHDchannel Před 7 lety +3

    If the ship was built for minimal crew, you'd think that the admiral could get his weapons faster.

  • @jenniperkins4260
    @jenniperkins4260 Před 4 lety

    Love it

  • @brutes23334
    @brutes23334 Před 9 lety +1

    Still have yet to see a space battle where the enterprise can fire back and kill some stuff. Maybe the next one

  • @luiseduardo586
    @luiseduardo586 Před 7 lety

    Dr. Marcus recovered herself from a broken leg just entering the futuristic 23rd century medical bay...

  • @My-nl6sg
    @My-nl6sg Před 6 lety +6

    How did the Warp Core of the USS Vengeance survived this mess, sixty something advanced military warheads literally detonated WITHIN the ship's hull near the engineering section?!!!

    • @surajsuresh8945
      @surajsuresh8945 Před 4 lety +1

      I don't think they detonated with the amount they were supposed to cause what should have been the ammo was essentially superhumans in Cryo tubes

    • @MrMisanthrope84
      @MrMisanthrope84 Před 4 lety +1

      Because JJ Abrams

  • @MrMedukneusha
    @MrMedukneusha Před rokem

    i love how they get pulled from orbit...while they're right next to the moon.
    Just as logical as starfleet being in SF

  • @JD867
    @JD867 Před 10 lety +1

    I'd say that ships impossibly tough to withstand 72 torpedoes detonating INSIDE it, but then again, with all those cryo tubes it probably doesn't have much in the way of a warhead compared to a normal torpedo.

  • @numbaoneg101
    @numbaoneg101 Před 2 lety

    0:56 “Not bad commander” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @johnhyout
    @johnhyout Před 5 lety

    This set of films were awesome.
    Let's hope Tarantino comes out with some cool more crude version.

  • @amit790
    @amit790 Před 10 lety +1

    Khan thought his crew died, and never knew they were still alive.

  • @SL16867
    @SL16867 Před 10 lety

    "Abramsverse" is a fan term for the new timeline/reality that Star Trek 2009 and Star Trek Into Darkness take place in. STID is set in the year 2259. Site-to-site transport didn't debut in prime universe material until the TOS movies.

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 Před 2 lety

      The term the rest of us use is "crap". How hard is it to transport something to the transporter and then immediately transport it somewhere else?

  • @Mr.Deleterious
    @Mr.Deleterious Před 2 lety

    "Star Trek roof with that "wraith" of Khan"

  • @theodoresweet3610
    @theodoresweet3610 Před 2 lety

    Nice!

  • @hansword
    @hansword Před 6 lety

    0:43 Khan is like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! lol

  • @RaiderOfTheLost
    @RaiderOfTheLost Před 7 lety

    "He's locked on phasers on us"

  • @sammymartin8390
    @sammymartin8390 Před 7 lety +8

    The one playing McCoy talks like deforest kelly

    • @MrTBSC
      @MrTBSC Před 7 lety +8

      sammy martin yepp karl urban plays a darn good mccoy

    • @Akm72
      @Akm72 Před 7 lety +1

      A good Judge Dredd as well.

  • @inakyturner7471
    @inakyturner7471 Před 6 lety +2

    Spock: 'Omae wa mo shindeiru'
    Kahn: 'NANI?!'
    *splode*

  • @porridge57
    @porridge57 Před 2 lety

    There is a lot of great shaky cam, lens flares and explosions in this movie.

  • @calebmantle5694
    @calebmantle5694 Před 2 lety

    Never play chess with someone willing to overturn the board...

  • @joyhaswell751
    @joyhaswell751 Před 6 lety +1

    I was so rooting for Khan! 0:43

  • @cubdukat
    @cubdukat Před 10 lety

    It also doesn't hurt to have a Chief Engineer with a bugged VISOR who has to change the shield frequencies in front of a screen that displays what the current shield frequency is.

  • @zevilar5817
    @zevilar5817 Před 6 lety

    LOL Spock is such a badass there

  • @cameronsteers9756
    @cameronsteers9756 Před rokem

    0:38 Star Trek using star wars sound effects....I mean hey, if it makes the explosion better, go for it!

  • @matthewbrune5490
    @matthewbrune5490 Před 10 lety

    spock+khan+crippled enterprise+big deadly ship+torps big enough for cryo pods=victory

  • @steve2275
    @steve2275 Před 6 lety +1

    0:30 strange he didn't se that coming

  • @mrman343
    @mrman343 Před 3 lety

    0:54 when I thought I smashed my maths exam but ended up getting an F

  • @chicagogalaxy670
    @chicagogalaxy670 Před 7 měsíci

    Spock is literally the best 🖖

  • @LiquidSnake1988
    @LiquidSnake1988 Před 6 lety +2

    Much better than star wars

  • @falseprophet1415
    @falseprophet1415 Před 6 lety

    Honestly, after those explosions inside the Vengeance, You'd think it would've just outright been rendered to debris, much less able to go into FTL towards Earth....

  • @yamifannetje
    @yamifannetje Před 10 lety +1

    Spock didn't outwit only the enemy, so it seems :p

  • @AtticTapes14
    @AtticTapes14 Před 3 lety

    COOL LENSE FLARE

  • @thejackedupreviewshow6924

    Technically that was Bone's doing since he helped armed it. It was tricked by Spock but it's not his point as Kahn beamed it aboard his ship.

  • @CptOriginal
    @CptOriginal Před 6 lety +2

    KHAAAAAAAN!!!!!

  • @treyhelms5282
    @treyhelms5282 Před 2 lety

    That was a good part of the movie

  • @mikes252
    @mikes252 Před 2 lety

    I love that 72 torpedos detonated inside this ship and it didn't do all that much damage , 1 torpedo in Voyager could take out a whole ship

    • @mumtaz1977
      @mumtaz1977 Před 2 lety

      If you had followed the previous events in the film, you would have watched when they were told that these torpedoes did not warheads included.

  • @yamifannetje
    @yamifannetje Před 6 lety

    the irony! Bones defending Spock's actions against Kirk

  • @bmwsux6
    @bmwsux6 Před 10 lety

    jsm666 : possibly the only reason the ship was crippled insted of being destroyed is in order to fit the cryo tube into the torpedo casing is that you must remove the main explosive charge that came with it. Afterall many bombs use a small charge to initiate the larger main charge.

    • @GeorgeWBush-im9ll
      @GeorgeWBush-im9ll Před 10 lety

      Khan said earlier in the film that the main explosive charge/warhead had been removed in order to install the cyro-tubes. However, the powerplant and/or propellant would have had their own explosive potential - especially if detonated 'inside' the ship.

    • @bmwsux6
      @bmwsux6 Před 10 lety

      George W. Bush
      So I guess we said the same thing.

  • @JurassicLion2049
    @JurassicLion2049 Před 10 lety +3

    I wonder if Capsicle is somewhere amongst those popsicles.

  • @CorekBleedingHollow
    @CorekBleedingHollow Před 8 lety

    0:56 Nurse! She's having Jim's baby!

  • @rainalane1638
    @rainalane1638 Před 2 lety

    So with a fully developed moon city, a gigantic shipyard on LEO, and being near the federation capital, and no one notice 2 big ass ships fighting side by side in sector 001 ?