Nikon Z 24-200mm VS Nikon 24-120mm F4. Picture quality, Focus speed and Focus Breathing.
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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In This Video we will be directly comparing the Nikon Z 24-200mm against the Nikon 24-120mm F4.
We will look at
picture quality at different Focal lengths and Different apertures.
From 24mm, 50mm and 120mm.
we will look at Auto Focus performance and Auto Focus Noise
Then we will look at focus breathing at 120mm.
If you are only interested in a particular part of the the video here are the links.
24mm VS 24mm 2:25
50mm VS 50mm 7:26
120mm VS 120mm 10:40
Summery 12:19
AF Test 14:33
Focus Breathing 16:53
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Nikon Z 24-200mm VS Nikon Z 24-70mm F4
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What do these results mean to you ? I for one Think the 24-200mm has really proved to be a great all in one lens.
I think one thing every Z user could take away is that the Z 24-105 S is going to be a great lens being an S-line its going to be even better than the 24-200mm.
As always thanks so much for watching !
Every Z lens seems to be sharper than its F mount counter part. As seen in comparison, 85mm f/1.8 S was so close to F mount legendary lenses like 105mm and 70-200mm E lenses and as more lenses and bodies on the way. It's good idea to have atleast a one native z prime with existing F mount lenses and slowly replacing F mount with equivalent Z lenses
Any idea when we might see that 24-105? 😁 I know it's on the roadmap for the end of 2021, but not sure where it fits relative to the other lenses. Could it be the 'kit' lens for the Z8 perhaps?
Ex review. Also we need to consider that 24-120 is $200 more expensive tough it is often bundled with D750 at a much lower price.
Look forward to your comparison with the 70-200 f/4 F. Thanks.
Where is a 24-120/4 S for Z-mount? ;)
You are the only youtuber on this planet that reviews this lens. Thanks a lot! :)
Factssss
I am blown away that a non-S-line Z mount lens performs this well against an F-mount lens with a gold ring.
The improvement in focus breathing is remarkable.
Thanks again for another great comparison.
Ricci, thank you again for doing these excellent reviews. I never miss any of your videos - they are all so relevant to Z shooters. And your reviews are so detailed and thorough, it must drive you a bit loony to go through these trials over and over again, but to me it is worth it - thank you again for doing this for your viewers!
I commented on a similar comment saying all I hope is you guys don’t fall asleep 🤣🤣🤣 I’ll keep making them as long as people keep watching them !
Another win for the 24-200mm :)
All these comparison videos are invaluable! I've come to rely on them to help me make my choices on which lenses to buy. Thanks a bunch!
Very impressive focus breathing of 24-200. So much less disturbing
First time i am happy that an Expert explain how good could be 24-120 lens. I I have been using this lens since 2018 and for better Performance, I baught Capture One 20, thanks Ricci
It's something else to listen to the lenses focusing, I consider the 24-120mm a quiet lens, but the 24-200mm is freakishly quiet (like the other Z mount lenses). Don't get me going on how loud my 300mm Pentax lens is now that I had to convert to screw drive - holy moly!
I like the 24-70mm f/4 but I always want more reach. Looks like the 24-200mm will find a home with me. (glad you stay awake through these tests with so little differences to noodle out :^) )
It can be tough sometimes hence why I cut this one a little bit shorter I just hope that you guys watching don’t fall asleep 🤣🤣🤣
@@RicciTalks I was forced to refeshen my coffee afterwards - but I toughed it out. LOL
24-120使用多年,覺得不是很好用,改用15-30和28-300,出門旅遊很好用。24-200是很好用的焦段,早年手動鏡頭時用過。
The 24-105 F/4s will undoubtedly be Nikon's best seller in the Z mount series once it is released.
Good point - will be popular but how many people will add / sell / upgrade from the excellent kit lens 24-70 F4 Z and loose money in the process of upgrading to 24-105 F4 -small increase in focal length.
but only when you buy it in a kit I think ... the price for an single upgrade will be high (probably around 1000 $).
I would also choose the 24-105, perfect for landscape photography. Hope that it will be a lightweight F4 and not a heavy F2.x
Why not a new Z version of 24-120 F4? It could be great!
for the 24-120, is it good enough for a 45mega pixel sensors like the ZII or the D850 ?
I have both lenses and the Z lens is great but the f4 -24 120 is better in darker conditions like you stated Ricci.
Another great comparison. I have both lenses. I'still use the 24-120 on my D810 but even though I have the 24-70 2.8 Z mount for my Z8 I'm using the 24-200 more and more when I don't need the speed of the 24-70. Very impressed with this lens.
Thanks a lot for comparing these two lenses. Would be interesting to compare the two Z-lenses 24-120 and 24-200 😅
Thanks Ricci for another good review - in video / live view mode AF acquisition focus seems faster on 24-200 than 24-120 and also cannot hear any lens focus / AF whirl noise from the newer lens. Wished Nikon could have updated the 24-120 to make it more video oriented when they brought out the D780 but still a good still lens and good price - especially 2nd hand, e.g., £400 - £500
Thanks for this comparison. My 24-120 is mediocre past 100mm. The Z 24-200mm looks appealing as a walk-around lens, particularly as it is fairly light in comparison to the F 24-120. As I use my AFP 70-300mm for longer reach, I'll wait to see what the Z 24-105mm looks like before committing to an alternative to the 24-70 f4 - its too bad Nikon didn't offer this sooner in the lineup.
I wanted to let you know that I did some research on the 24 120mm and the 24 200mm lenses.
I think that the 24 120mm is a better option for me because it's a full frame lens and it's better in low light environments. I do a lot of events and wedding videography, so this is a big deal for me.
The 24 200mm is better for outdoor environments because it has a wider aperture of F6.0. hope this helps, thank you.
Thank you for sharing. Still with my D800 and a second hand F24-120 f4 i bought from a seller having this extra lens from his D750 as kit. I find this lens to meet my needs as I am into landscape/city/travel. It proved me right with your test as value for money. In real world, pixel peep is not the way to appreciate one's creation anyway.
Keep in mind that this review is about the Z version of lenses, not DSLR, I see you are still using the D800.
If they made a 24-200 f/4, even if bulky, I would totally buy one.
Another very helpful video, thanks Ricci! Looking forward to your comparisons with the production version of the 24-50. If Nikon lowered the Z5 + 24-200 bundle price to $1999 for holidays sales, I'm thinking it might really be worth the extra $300 over the Z5 + 24-50 - if only because (so far) the 24-200 is such a good lens! Any thoughts?
holy cow the focus breathing on the 24-120 is a deal breaker. What are nikon thinking? they can't say they're focusing on video then make a lens like this. Yes these sort of vidoes are super useful, thanks mate :)
I'm still amazed that my F-mount 24-120mm f/4 lens autofocuses better on my Z5 (via the FTZ) than my old D750! If I could I'd get the new 24-120mm Z lens but the old lens still takes awesome photos. Thanks for the comparison.
How do you like this 24-200 vs tamron 18-400 ? Is it even compatible with the ftz adapter ?
Great content as usual!
I own a copy of the 24/120 and I am actually happy with its performance, for intended purposes. But I read lots of negative reviews of this lens which made me think I was not enough skilled to find its drawbacks. So I am actually positively surprised to see how it actually compares with the 24/200 Z.
Thanks for your comment as the lens owner. I'm thinking of getting a new 24-120 but have been hesitating due to many negative reviews. Sometimes, I am skeptical if some of the reviewers actually own the lens and have used it out in the field for some time before giving reviews. I rather read reviews, comments from the lens owners.
@@lamwp8634 thank you, glad if I can help. The lens is decently built, not too large or heavy compared to my 24-70. Renders very nice colors and it's super versatile. Yes there is some distortion at the extreme ends but nothing which can't be adjusted in post. I use it when I need a light bag. Alone or paired with the recent tamron 17 35 2.8 -4 which is also compact, light, affordable a d optically extremely good. If I need the best optical quality I have better options, but I got very nice shots with this one. I wouldn't buy it at the official price, but at current prices it's a very good opportunity IMHO.
Thank you very much for your great reviews! It really helps to choose the lenses.
This is becoming my dream lens for all-purpose, travel and hiking to replace my beloved Sigma 24-105 f4 which weights almost 50% more before the FTZ. Interesting, the price for this Z 24-105 f4 lens is announced right now as us$1099, while the 24-70 f4 is at us$996, just $100 dollars difference! Wow - Nikon seems to be reconsidering their pricing approach, nice move!
Hi Ricci.
Nice as usual comparison test...
Can you do the comparison between te F 24-120 F4 and the Z 24-70 F4?
Thanks
Any hunches on when the 24-105 will be announced? Seems like the perfect lens for all-in-ones (video & photo, travel&pro).
Other than 2021 sadly no !
@@RicciTalks It's too little too late, Canon Released the R6 and it's even better than expected. Nikon with the lack of lenses and high prices and technology that it's not up to date is basically forcing my hand towards Canon. So many years with Nikon and used to the way they understand photographers to come to this. If Nikon does not have a single compelling product by April next year I am going to switch. If they can't compete they should at least compete on prices.
@@jaimeduncan6167 lol 'is forcing my hand towards canon', 'Nikon with old technology'😂 you clearly aren't a professional photographer but rather an online YT follower who's sucked up by specs
Ricci, very cool music after introduction. It is Jackson Browne Hit song in 1974 ," Fountain of Sorrow " one of my favourite singer and composer.
I'd really like to see the 50-250mmZ DX vs the 24-200mmZ. I know which one I'd rather have, but is the 24-200 worth twice the price? I'd certainly go with the 24-105S Z if it was available anytime soon, but I doubt it will be worth upgrading from the 24-200mm.
I use to own the 24-120mm f/4, and even on my D700 it had poor performance at the edges, lots of smudging/loss of detail....so I'm surprised at how well the 24-120mm has held up in this test...maybe you have a good copy, and I had a bad one...
it should be good at edge for 24120, I own one with my D750 for 6 years
First off, thank you so much for your free content on CZcams, you are an invaluable resource as a relatively new photographer with a z6 (and d750, d700). One thing in this video that confused me is the 24-120 is infamously not very sharp at 120 especially at wider apertures. I've verified this with the two copies I own. So to say they're the same at 120, does the 24-200 also fall off in performance around 120? I'm impressed by the z mount otherwise, as the f mount was noted for its high resolving power, often kitted with the d750 and even d850. Does sharpness fall off at 120 on the Z 24-200, maybe just in the corners?
Thankyou for this video. I'm looking at the z7 currently as an upgrade to my d750 and wanted to know if its worth keeping my 24-120 or part x it in with the d750 and get the 24-200.
Thank you for the video as always. Hopefully D780 is not just sitting collecting dust. Patiently waiting for your comprehensive review on D780.
Hello Ricci. Thank you for the excellent reviews. I am hopeful you can answer a question. I have just come to the z6 and 24-200 from the d850 and 28-300. VR on the later was noticeable and with the Z6 and 24-200 I can’t sense if it is on even though I have it enabled in normal mode via the z6 menu. Is IBIS and lens VR completely silent? Or do I have a malfunctioning copy? Cheers and Thanks. Mark
Hi, thank you for the great review. I'm confused @17:42. What exactly is happening? I'm not sure why so much in and out of focus while in the same focal length apparently. I believe this is the Z lens. With the Z lens, are there more AF options?
I'm looking forward to your Z 70-200 f2.8 S reviews!
agree especially on how well it stacks against MK 2 F and MK 3 FL versions of the F mount lens, along with comparison against the slower 70-200 AFS VR F/4
Looking forward to your comparison with the new Z 24-120 S.
Thanks for the video, was deciding on the 24-200 or an F mount, going with the 24-200. Thanks
Wow snow i June... I don't envy you! Anyhow, thank for this great comparison
Hi, Congrats on a great channel. Quite impressed with the 24-200 between 24 and 120. Very much looking forward to your test of the Z 24-200 vs the F 70-200 F4. I have a Z 14-30, Z 24-70 and F mount 70-200 F$ which i bought because the f2,8 is a monster. If the 24-200 keeps performing so well, I could carry only two lenses when traveling. My shoulders would love that!
Look forward to your comparison with the 70-200 f/4 F. Thanks.
Could you possibly do a close focus test to see how the 24-200 performs corner to corner, flat field, or perhaps provide some information to that question. This is also of importance to me for semi macro work, where I do a lot of close up work with abstract surfaces such as scratched paint, metal, and other flat surfaces where I want everything in focus. For example, I was disappointed in the 16-80 2.8, an excellent lens at normal focus distances, but the older 16-85 performed flat field beautifully. Many thanks for your informative videos.
24-200 mm is very impressive in its auto-focus, this comparison is very helpful if I ever decide to go with the Z system one of these days. Thank you. (PS: where both lenses shot with the same body? In which case the 24-120 needs the adapter if used on the Z body.)
Somehow the AF tests made me think about using the DSLRs as a hammer.
Thanks very much. Very helpful! Still undecided about the 24-200 as I'm considering the 70-200 f4 F mount. Why doesn't Nikon just make 14-200 high end zooms and end this whole debate? 😆
I now have a 70-200mm f4 so that video will be on the way very shortly !
@@RicciTalks REALLY looking forward to this one. I love the 70-200 f4 and I've been wondering if I'll need to keep it with the 24-200. Ricci, you are the man... what would us pixel peepers do without you?!
The first comparison I noticed a darker difference on the left photo. Especially in the Grey. From corner to corner. But that was a bout it.
I think the biggest thing going for the 24-120 is it's constant aperture, despite it being a shorter focal range. Mine (when I had it) I never felt was all that sharp, and this comparison sort of supports that (I feel my 24-200 S lens is sharper) but I think as a travel lens, both can be good options, although I'm wondering if the Tamron 35-150 might be better than the 24-120 (but since Ricci only deals with OEM Nikon stuff, we probably won't see a comparison). But I ultimately sold my 24-120 after a few years and bought a 24-70 F-mount ED lens (non VR version) which was much better IMO (shorter on the long end obviously, so I had to pair it with a 70-200 and a 70-300 to fill in those gaps) but much better quality IMO than the 24-120, but the 24-120 isn't a bad lens especially if you can find one in good used condition for a few hundred dollars. It can also be a good lens for beginners so they can play around with things like focal length and aperture while learning the basics of photography.
(NOTE: a little typo at 6:31... listed 24-70 f/2.8 not 24-120 f/4)
At 9:36 I'd almost say the 24-200 is a tad sharper, but only in the lens in the back (look at the lettering 180 and 200 in both pictures. Now this could be related more to DOF than sharpness but I think the 24-200 still edges out the 24-120, althoug the 24-120 is very close.
The other thing I noticed between the two is more focus breathing with the 24-120, and this was even quite noticeable when I had just my D750. I could tell it was focus breathing more. The 24-200 does a little, but not as much as the 24-120 so that might be important to some people, especially videographers (not to mention the AF motors in the Z lenses are near silent, whereas some F-mount AF motors are noisy and in some cases, not even useable for video for that reason).
Great Video Ricci! Question on Z6 & Z7 Sensor in-body stabilization - do you turn it off for your landscape long exposures? I have found my landscapes to be just as sharp with it both on and off with my primes. I was wondering what your recommendation is. Many thanks and keep up the great work on the videos! Chris.
Hey Chris
So depends on the lens ur using
Some of the new Z lenses know they are on a tripod so will enter a tripod mode without you even knowing
So I don’t bother turning my VR off at all for landscapes
I have the 24-120mm F4 on D750 body for a year and I sold the lens because it was just inferior compare to the Sony 24-105mm F4. I also have the Nikon 18-35mm which was way more sharper than this outdated lens. I waited many years for Nikon to update this lens(my favorite lens for hiking) but it never came. So now I switched to Sony A7M4 with 24-105 f4 as my main gear.
That 24-200 is a truly impressive superzoom. How I wish it was a constant f4, then it would really be a no-brainer.
I love the Nikon Z system! I have the 24-70 f2.8 and have preordered the 70-200. Cant wait to get it in my hands! Quick question: is there a reason why no camera company makes corner to corner super sharp prime lenes with fastest apperture F4 or F5.6? It would be really good for a landscape photographer that does alot of hiking. :)
Very informative, I thought when the 24-200mm was announced it was going to be APS-C, as it's not this could be the right lens to take on holiday.
After watching all 24-200 related videos (you ve made quite a few this time;)) i think İ might consider this lens for travel. İt seems to actually break a standard for super zooms to be mediocre at best lenses. I am even in doubt now whether I need 24-70 f4S anymore... And İ 've just noticed you had a 70-200/2.8 S (totally forgot you had a preview video on it)).. When can we see this beast in action?
will make a good companion to my 2nd / backup Z camera the APS Z50.
Very useful. Thank you.
Can we see the 24-200 Z versus the 70-200 F4 F please Ricci
Iv only just been able to get the 70-200mm f4 so that will be next
@@RicciTalks Great. That is the big one for me... literally. I would be able to shed a kilo from the bag (if you include converter and mount). I expecting it to be close to the 70-200, but probably a little behind on sharpness - I look forward to the results.
@@RicciTalks Any update on the 70-200 F4 comparison?
The comparison images are shot I’m struggling with the 70-200mm f4 as it focus breaths backwards (closer you get focal length gets longer / further away u focus focal length gets shorter ) so it’s difficult to make 70mm match 70mm and 200mm to match 200mm
@@RicciTalks I'm more interested in the straight comparison shots to be honest. I've almost taken it as read that the 24-200 will be better than the 70-200 F4 in terms of focus breathing since it has been better than the other lenses you tested. Seems to be a strength of Z lenses.
@Ricci Talks Z mount lenses are making really good use of Bigger mount which was a limitation in case of F mount. These non-s and f/1.8 prime lenses compete so well even with Nano coated lenses. Imagine how good f/1.4s going to be!!
What does everyone think about the FX AF P f/4.5 - 5.6E ED 70 - 300? Seems a natural addition to the 24 - 70 f4 without breaking the bank. Thank you.
Awesome lens - a bit soft beyond 200mm wide open, but very sharp otherwise, and so light compared to most longer zooms.
Thank you, good stuff.
Hi Ricci, would it be possible to have one shot of the maximum corner? That is where the strongest fall-off would be expected.
Thank you for your expertise!
Need a new comparison between the z 24-120 vs 24-200
Please make a comparison between nikkor s 24 120 and nikkor f 24 120.
nice test, will you recommend the 24-120f for weddings and travel, till I safed up for the Z 24-70mm F2.8 S?
With a full frame camera, that is great choice for travel and most wedding; you will want a few primes for wedding too though, 35mm, and 50mm or 85mm, for shallow depth of field and low light situations.
Dear Sir, thank you very much for info :).
What are the steps in aperture on the 24-200?
Isn't there a Nikon 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 lens for the FTZ adapter? That would be a very pertinent comparison to do.
I do not have access to a 28-200mm so can not test them.
it doesn’t matter to me which one is better but I would back the z 24-200 being the best lens out of the two.
Also worth noting the 28-200mm does not autofocus on the Z cameras as it relies on the camera AF motor in DSLRS that are not in the FTZ.
I don’t think many would buy a manual focus lens over an autofocus lens when looking at a flexible all in one lens
are they calibrated before comparing?
Sorry if you have stated this and I just missed it, but the Z 24-120 IS AN S lens, and the 24-200 IS NOT. You've got it backwards.
We need a 24-120/4s vs 24-120/f F mount VR
One of the main things that tempts me to Z6 is IBIS. Can you do a video demonstrating how good you think it is - for stills.
I've shot with the Z7 and Z50 converted to the 70-300E @300mm, and the 5 stop IBIS+VR versus 3 stop VR is VERY noticeable/awesome. I don't push those limits often enough to chase IBIS though. I think this is bad timing to buy a Z6. The price will drop when the replacement comes out, or you could catch a black Friday special.
@@skyrunr Thank-you Ricci
There is an error at 6:25. Just to alert you, no problem, it doesn't keeps us from understanding the point.
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When do you think Nikon will come out with the 24 200 lens? I’ve had mine on order from B&H for a long time.
There’s been some that have shipped already so it depends on where you are on the pre order list. I don’t know the situation in the US but here in the U.K. some of the first orders have been fulfilled. As of the 19th June
@@RicciTalks I got mine, live in Sweden, and I'm very happy with this lens.
incorrect resume on this video. Edges on 24-120 are softer not because its an "old" lens. Z 24-200's rear element is bigger than one on 24-120 and located CLOSER to sensor, rays of light hit the sensor close to 90 degree, therefore there are better focus. Same apllies for ANY other lens, specifically designed for Z mount.
Any more lenses being released in 2020?
Thanks again for another great review Ricci. The 24-200 looks like a great addition to the Z line. However, I was disappointed a bit by the focus speed. While it the AF seems very sure and accurate the actual focus speed is, let's say, leisurely. The 24-120 hunts a bit more, and make a good bit of noise, but the actual AF (movement of elements) is MUCH zipper. Or am I seeing this all wrong?
Again and again we see how better z lenses are. Can't understand why Tony blamed z-mount.
Tony is like a lecturer rather than a professional photographer in my opinion. Tony talks inside his house most of the time with charts and technical data whereas pro photographers like Steve Perry, Matt Granger, Jared, Matt Erwin, spends most of the time shooting in the fields. They get paid for their photography output by the clients which say a lot of their recognition as pro photographers. Their comments are relevant from real world experience.
@@lamwp8634 agreed. Never seen him doing photography last years, just marketing forecasts, strategy to survive for Nikon and silly ideas like sensor-on-the-rails. Whatever, but not photography. He became just a ranter.
Excelente.
Can you do 10-20afp VS 14-30, APSC VS FF, cheap lens VS expensive one?
On the same camera body ?
It woule be nice if you can compare them on z50 and z6/z7. There is over 4 times price difference here in Canada between these 2 lens.
Is the 24-200 weather sealed? 😅
Yes
Now that Canon has released the R5 I can't help but compare it to the z7, which I just acquired one month ago. I confess to be very impressed with the build quality and layout of the controls. Perhaps I'm even thinking I might have held off and spent another $500 to get the R5 instead! The lens selection is also VERY impressive.
Remarkable difference in focus breathing and AF motor noise to the advantage of the Z lens.
I disagree they look the same. The Z lens had more colour contrast.
The F lens might be a bit brighter but the Z lens goes to 200mm and hence also replaces a 70-200f4 lens.
Would like to see landscape example tests instead of a shelf of camera gear.
At my D850 there is no focus breathing of my 24-120 f/4, with the FTZ Adapter and my Z6 there is a little but less disturbing focus breathing.
How focus breathing changes between d850 and z6? It doesn't make sense.
It is the same on the D850... Obviously as it is the same lens
@@ursli893 Why is that obviously? As nearly everybody knows the AF system between the D850 and the Z6 differs a lot.
Or do you think there is no difference at the AF-system between a D3100 and a D5 f.e.
Sorry, but your statement is nothing else but wrong.
@@frankluo230 Of course, it makes sense.
@@mick1967 AF has nothing to do with focus breathing. Changing the focus point (movement of the lenses) can cause focus breathing. This happens with AF or MF.
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TOO BAD it is the F Mount lens. NEED this as the 24-120 Z S lens!!!!!!
It’s a lot to expect much from a lens with such a wide zoom range and relatively compact dimensions. Looks like all one is giving up is a larger aperture. If one can carry a tripod to be able to shoot at f8 in low light you’re not giving up anything at all.
mmm, you labelled the Z 24-200mm with an S...
Yeh I realised that just after I uploaded sorry for the Typo !
Why your sound is so low? :) Adjust it just below 0 :)
the Nikon 24-12 F4.0 VR II is a top lens on a Nikon D4 or Nikon D3x camera. Nikon Z is a heartless mirrorless system. You can't compare F-Mount with Nikon Z. Z has nothing to do with classic photography. Have tried the Nikon Z three times and always come back to F-Mount. But that's just my opinion, good photographers will probably stay with F-Mount for a while
So many damn ads
First!
So disappointed in Nikon change of mounts. My argument for buying their product has always been that you can take a lens from the 1950’s and use it today. Canon has constantly changed it’s mounts. Now, Nikon is too. Even worse, they came out with all these bullshit 1.8 lenses only to come out with 1.2 later. Nikon has totally lost my confidence
LOL... we are all really sorry about that. Do you want a kleenex or something?
Why are you comparing these? Doesnt maake sense
Thanks a lot for comparing these two lenses. Would be interesting to compare the two Z-lenses 24-120 and 24-200 😅