The Drive for Healthcare: Establishing the UK's National Health Service
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Just a mild-mannered profile of the NHS foundation. Definitely no potential controversies here.
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The NHS has directly saved my life twice. It is an inefficient and often frustrating service, but when brown stiff hits the fan, they are there front and centre. Thank you NHS for treating my childhood asthma, setting 2 broken limbs, treating a range of minor ailments, for air lifting me to an intensive care trauma centre and directly saving my life (life save 1) with several weeks of in patient hospital care and years of follow ups, for removing a tumerous gland during the covid pandemic (life save number 2) and most recently a late night emergency admission due to an incredibly painful kidney stone.
All this in a single relatively healthy 50 year life span. Science bless the NHS and all the fantastic army of people who work there 👏👏👏👏
Thank you Simon. As a UK paramedic working for the NHS, I am immensely proud of the system we have. It has its failings, but if you are seriously ill, you will be prioritised on your medical severity, and treated at a high standard whether you are rich or pennyless.
What, you don’t think standard triaging happens in the US?
@@maerus5227 The hospital is only required to stabilize you. You haven't see the outrage about hospitals dumping people out of wheelchairs into their lawns?
@@gomahklawm4446 and that is why you carry double citizenship. Live and make money in us, get treated in europe
@@gomahklawm4446 that's bullshit. I had to go to the hospital a handful of times like 6 years ago because I was a heroin addict that had serious breathing problems. I didn't have insurance and they "stabilized" me and then kept me and treated me for a couple days on different occasions. I had all sorts of tests run on me the same as somebody with insurance. Usually after getting a steroid injection and oxygen for an hour my breathing would be perfectly stable and they would INSIST on keeping me!!!
@@tnikoli40 citizenship means nothing. To get treatment in most european countries you must be a permanent resident otherwise what you are doing is illegal.
I'm a brit living in canada . National health care is one thing I'd be willing to fight for
I wish Americans felt the same. We'd rather leave those without to suffer.
The problem is that the USA population has been brainwashed that universal health care is bad and a communist red thing bl
@@harryballz9486 funny thing is a bib majority of Americans want it something like 70-75%, problem is more the corruption of government not working for the people and filling their wishes
Fight for something that doesn’t work and relies on American healthcare for all of its tech and medicine
@@Miss_Claire we don’t believe in communism sorry
I live in the UK, the NHS has saved my life 4 times in my 50 years. I've had 7 surgeries and spent around 7 weeks in total in hospital. It hasn't cost me an addition penny over what I pay in tax. In fact it is emergency healthcare where the NHS is at its very best. It can be argued that for things like cancer treatments private healthcare can be quicker IF you have great coverage. That is no conciliation to those that don't, are uninsurable or simply can't afford health insurance. You will never go bankrupt in the UK due to healthcare costs, as there aren't any. It is without doubt our most beloved institution that we will never be prepared to live without.
PS you can have private healthcare in the UK. All emergency rooms or A&E as we call them are NHS though.
Yeah the NHS is fucking awesome.
Yeah, Australia as well. You can choose public or private, rather than private or 'guess I'll die or go bankrupt, then'.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey It might be too soon to conclude that poorer healthcare is the cause for higher fatality. Other explanations for higher case mortality include higher proportion of the infected are elderly/high risk people, such as people in care homes.
@@mymThePlayMatE The U.S. has three times the people with a lower death rate from Covid, that suggests to me the U.S. system is better at keeping people alive.
I have some experience with NHS. Two years ago, a cup broke in my hand, and sliced it open. Local A&E in Dover referred me to East Grinstead hospital where they specialize on such things. I needed some nerve repair to be done.
All I paid was £8.50 for antibiotics, and just under £100 for petrol+parking getting there.
I've done physiotherapy more locally, so I didn't use as much fuel, but still needed to pay for parking.
In the US, I would probably wouldn't have to pay for parking, and petrol is cheaper, but I would have a massive debt because insurance I would be able to afford wouldn't cover all the treatment I needed.
how did a cup break in your hand to leave you with nerve damage
Don't give us too much credit, you would still have to pay for parking.
Parking at children's hospital in Pittsburgh is $20 a day.
@yeoldebiggetee
Especially when you are there long term. My son spent the better part of two years there😳
Of course you can park on the street, but its metered, and you have to top off the meter every 2 hours🙄 And parking enforcement is quick to slap a $50 fine on your window if your time is up🤬
@Tim Hi Tim. Yes, prescriptions are free (including repeats) in Scotland and Wales. I think N Ireland is slightly different with free prescriptions being those actually written by your Doctor.
I think the fact that it continues to work despite the barrage of "crises" that hit it demonstrates it's inherent resilience and that resilience is a function of societal will to make it so. It will only die if willed to die. And it won't be.
Alternatively, it could be said that it holds on as those who benefit from it being in place (as far as politicians go) will NEVER admit it might in any way be a bad system...
well said
@@Rammstein0963. politicans benefit because it's popular. It's popular because the people who use it love it.
It's not a perfect system, but it's an order of magnitude better than a private system.
The NHS deserve all the credit and more. They helped rebuild me when I broke my spine, the work they do for the millions of people in the UK is amazing and we should help fund the NHS more. We should be more thankful for the NHS especially with this pandemic
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
Hurrahhhh...more taxesssss......uhhh....yaaaay........
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Could that be due to it only really taking out elderly people and the life expectancy (due to poor health care) in the US being so low compared to the rest of the world with socialised health care. Look it up you live on average 4 years longer outside of the US, pretty telling statistic I would say.
@@OMGWTFFYA U.S. has had 17.6M and only 1.8% have died compared to the UKs 2M cases and 3.3% have died, the United States had 8 times the cases and saved a higher percentage of its citizens.
As an American, I'll take the waiting times or the downsides of universal healthcare over one car accident putting me in five-figure debt.
Sweden has so many dirty commies around that they got us a working public transport system as well as healthcare, so i dont even need to risk driving :P
@@ClaymooreEOC public transportation is hit or miss depending on where you are.
Americans are so afraid of Communism that they think any kind of improvement to catch up with the rest of the world is going to lead to the resurrection of Josef Stalin.
@@catman422 What do you mean "resurrection"? Stalin is the man of steel! He can never die :P
As an expat, I too used to idolize the NHS. And you're very correct that in a car accident, for example, you're better off on universal. But it also has some downsides that you're not used to. Elderly people go blind waiting for cataract surgeries. Children become wards of the state and can be banned from seeker superior treatments abroad, and their parents imprisoned and children taken away for not accepting old style, damaging treatments (there is no parental consent and the child belongs to the institution while in it, and much of the radiation treatments are from the 1980's).
If you have anything rare you'll really struggle getting it treated because it mostly focuses on common things, due to economy of scale. Likewise, if a medication hasn't been on the market for at least 10 years, you won't be receiving that either, even in cases of life or death. They won't buy new things or new meds because they're too expensive and funding is very limited.
Also you can be denied surgery for being a smoker (even though there's a huge cigarrette tax to cover it), being overweight (even though there's a sugar tax to cover it), or if you offend a doctor by asking for a 2nd opinion, or if you offend a nurse by being too rude. But you always have to pay for it via a 2nd income tax, whether you are denied treatment or not.
Most of this happens because the government keeps parasiting money from the tax, which is SUPPOSED to go to NHS. But they re-appropriate that money to give to the rich, leaving the NHS to starve. Do you think the US government might do something similar to an American NHS? It's seriously a huge problem on this side of the pond, they just keep stripping it and it keeps offering less and less every year, but the tax charges never go down, only up.
@@janejan9728 People in the UK realy have been brainwashed to love the NHS, and one of the things that bothers me most as there has been NHS scandles for as long as its existed. Scandles that if any one of them happened in the private sector they would be tallked about for years and brought up constantly. But the NHS gets a by ball cause its government. No private firm could get away with it, but far from being hated its much loved
Hi Simon, the NHS was also modelled on the Highlands and Islands Medical Service (HIMS) which was the UK's first state funded healthcare in 1913. It's an interesting idea for a side project. HIMS initial director went on to be one of the author's of the NHS design. Just one of those stories that you didn't know about, but is interesting once you do.
I wish we had national healthcare. My wife has been hospitalized 5 times this year and her co-pay for those times is $8,000.00 (US dollars). We are living on disability bennefits so that $8000 comes to a bit chunk of money. I need a operation on tumors on my Kidneys so I guess I am going to drop dead since I can't afford to get the operation done. And NO, we do not qualify for any other help.
Easy solution: Get yourself elected to Congress. Congress Critters get everything covered./end sarcasm
this is petrifying, the thought that any first world countries have people dying without help is crazy.
What's your deductible? What's the contribution after deductible? I have to say the US has a very weird system comparing to the rest of the world.
If you're on disability, you qualify for Medicare. I just got on Medicare because of a disability, although it takes 2 years from the time of the start of disability to eligibility for Medicare. But it also matters who is on disability as it is only the disabled who qualify for Medicare. Would I want socialized medicine? Never. Lots of Candians come down to the states for more advanced treatment. The healthcare system just gets overwhelmed by people who skip out on paying and illegals who sneak into this country.
@@landerson1012 interesting how you look down on people who don't pay when you don't pay a dime. Only rich can afford to come here and get treatment. Are you a Darwinist?
I've been in both systems. This illusion of choice is a lie. You still pay a copay with insurance and van only go to certain doctors. And wait times in the US are about the same.
Yep, recently our insurance company had a dispute with one of the major hospitals here. Luckily they worked it out, because my wife’s doctor would’ve been considered out of network then.
So you pay for insurance but still have to pay out of pocket, you can't choose your own doctor and you have to wait? What a bizarre system.
@@thehangmansdaughter1120 yes. There is a particular story about woman who broke her leg or somethin? But the point was she didnt call an ambulance because it may have been out of network, and drove herself to a further away hospital to be in network, and the surgeon who ended up doing the surgery wasnt in her network so she ended up on the hook for all of it. Its crazy.
You can probably guess that I’m bitter about the lack of mental health available in small towns. I was a soldier; I’m still suffering from tinnitus and the results of multiple concussions. My personality has changed, for the worse. I have not been allowed to see my daughter in a year and a half, because I have become a lot more aggressive. I didn’t choose this; I have had multiple head injuries and I am not the same. I miss my daughter.
Have you tired the British Legion or Veterans UK? I had information about accessing mental health support in my pension statement this year.
The US has wait times just like everywhere else. I don't know why people think there isn't a wait to see a specialist because there is.
Ok fair enough but no one should have to worry about money when they literally have broken limbs or are in Situations where you need to see a doctor urgently like many poor people. For example my dad got hit by a car and the find was over a 115k That’s ludicrous.
@@iyubecaid3510 Did you read the comment you replied to? Guy is saying that the US system has wait times as well as high costs.
@@hoopyfrood7887 Yes I did read the comment and I replied with my thoughts I agree there’s wait time for everything that’s a part of life I’m just mentioning the outrages code of health care in the U.S
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@@iyubecaid3510 then get Medicaid. It’s easy, and you can do it in situations EXACTLY like that, even after the injury, and you also forgot to mention that in a LOT of cases like that, the hospital just writes those costs off as a loss because they know they’ll never collect anyway.
Stop twisting shit like this to fit your narrative.
The US: Hospitals buying billboard space to compete for patients is not in the interest of the patient. Just one small example.
To me this is one of those things that just should not be a political issue. Diseases have no business being politicized.
@@NPFAC The political issue isn't the sickness; Its who's future is sacrificed for someone else's present. Every dollar out of someone's pocket now, is a dollar they could've spent building themselves a better future.
@@dulio12385 Cant really say that when in the MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC money was pumped into the stock market, but not into the health industry (which is entirely for profit btw).
It’s hard to make use of those dollars when you are incapacitated by an illness that you can’t afford to have treated.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
Thank you for shining a light on the nhs... hopefully some people in the USA will see what they are missing out on
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported by the numbers.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161869/Top-doctors-chilling-claim-The-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1173526/
www.bbc.com/news/amp/health-40485724
www.theguardian.com/society/2019/nov/29/revealed-nhs-plans-to-ration-34-unnecessary-tests-and-treatments
Megaprojects idea: The Rise and The Fall of The Areceibo Telescope. Very topical!
I'll Second that!
I'd like to learn more about this
I agree
There are literally a dozen videos on that already. What would simon add?
"i cant see without glasses." US: "go work for a month"
Come on. There are TONS of places for poor people to get free prescription glasses. Not to mention Medicaid.
@@maerus5227 what about people in the middle though? The often overlooked in this system. The ones that make too much to qualify for Medicade, but too little to afford the private insurance?
Lots of companies don't offer health care to employees until they've worked for at least 90 days and in some cases only to full time employees. I've only ever worked for 1 company that I got their healthcare plan on day 1.
@@JDLauret I worked for a company that purposefully only hired part time employees so they didn’t have to pay benefits.
@@maerus5227 With the closing of many rural hospitals and health care centers there isn't. Not everyone can get to those places.
If by this point in time one doesn't realize that one's health is inextricably linked to the general health of others, one is being willfully stupid.
I dont want to pay more in taxes to have nationalized healthcare.
@@glennroberts971 then you'll continue paying out the nose for your health plan, which will still force you to pay hundreds to thousands of dollars out of pocket before full benefits kick in each year.
@@helljumper912 shush, he's proving my point.
@@helljumper912 I dont pay for healthcare. My employer provides it. Part of picking your job are the benefits associated with it.
@@glennroberts971 would you pick another or better job if you didn't have to think about healthcare?
Maybe start your own company?
I'd be terrified having to live a single day without health insurance
I sure as hell wouldn't drive a car, or bike. Or run. Or get out of bed basically. Oh shit that's not good for your health either. Shiiiit
it's not 'without' entirely. In the states hospitals are legally required to treat you no matter what. It's the bill that comes afterward that's the problem.
@@ilarious5729 😂exactly. Don't even consider taking a shower you might slip and fall and break an arm or smth
@@janejan9728 yeah my bad I meant health insurance. Seriously, last year I stopped my old job on 2 November and started the new on 4th November. First thing I asked about was do I have health care during that weekend. Thankfully it lasts 2 weeks after the job ends and if I had been unemployed for longer I'd have insurance from the unemployment agency anyways
I'm so damn happy I don't ever have to worry any of this. Earlier this year i was in ICU for a day and after that i was being monitored in the hospital for 3 days and i got a bill for 35€ and since I was unemployed at the time i just sent the bill to social services and they covered it, as they did the meds too i was prescribed. Also when i lived in Spain my healthcare was free since I'm from another EU country.
Imagine healthcare being about your health, not about profits.
I cant relate because... US.
Yeah I’m all too familiar as a person with chronic illness. The system here is so far beyond broken.
The system here in the US isn't broken. It just doesn't cater to anyone who makes a regular wage. Get rich then come to the US... Oh wait isn't that backwards? I thought we were the land of "opportunity." Guess chuck that one in the bucket of bullshit taught in schools anymore as well.
Imagine healthcare driving innovation, and improvements to medical practices all around the world, and providing a greater qaulity of care when compared to almost any other nation...Well I can relate because...US...But you go ahead and wait years to get life saving healthcare in a place with nationalised healthcare.
The greatest lie that far to many people believe is that "nationalised" healthcare is free. What you save in "healthcare insurance" you lose in taxes..and then some...But you go ahead and keep thinking a national healthcare system is a all GOOD thing.
Then you wouldn’t have most of the vaccines you have seen but ya keep shitting on the USA
@@carsongeye1462 I have chronic problems and I disagree
Everything is a dividing issue here in America. It's what we do. We love to argue.
Suggestion: Simon, can you do one on the Australian Healthcare System? And maybe the Canadian System? I enjoyed this video , your style and found this very informative.. Thank you
I Second this. As a Canadian I am content with the system even though I know it can be improved upon, rather happy to pay the taxes for it just so I don't go bankrupt every time I have a health issue come along
I recall reading a book about the Atlee government and one chapter touched on the NHS. Apprently (if I recall correctly) the numbers they used to estimate the level of patient numbers were based on 1930's figures. No one had considered that those who could not afford medical treatment would suddenly need it once it became 'free'.
I also take regular business trips to the US with the relevent insurance in place. On one of my first trips many years ago, and almost slipping off one of the high sidewalks in Denver and remember thinking that if I had slipped and broken my ankle it would be very expensive for anyone without cover. In the UK everything, from the amublance, x-rays and treatment would be free of charge.
Seriously guys, if you are in the US, you have no idea of the benefits of a system like this, not least that you will have a healthier and more productive society. You will see almost no one in the street wheeling around a bottle of oyxgen here.
There's a lot of naïve fools here that think anyone needs to be convinced of the benefits of nationalized healthcare. Everybody knows it's superior. The politicians know it's better. Most citizens want it. It's not about you, it's about making hospital and pharmaceutical execs richer. That will never change, and there's nothing anyone can or wants to do about. The united states is a country made by greedy rich people, for greedy rich people - and is working exactly as intended. The intention is to make sure that the average citizen is as poor as possible while still allowing them to sell their labor for far less than the value it creates, so that those that actually have a say in how things go may continue to accrue more resources.
Very succinct and depressingly true
I want to see a Megaprojects that is a biography of Simon.
He did it. czcams.com/video/iX4W9o2kcp8/video.html
I’m thinking he should do a geographics vid of his office!
@@Zman44444 or his basement where Sam and ETA are stored
OMG that's some next level sh*t right there. He would need a whole new channel called Omega projects... #feedthemonster
Seeing quite a few people slagging off the NHS in the comments. We don't charge $10,000 to deliver a baby and ask people to pay for an ambulance. That pretty much closes the argument
Your estimate of the cost of delivering a baby seems a bit low 🤔 but I'm not sure i'll have to check
@@ilarious5729 Wow seriously? That's mad
@@danollerenshaw8410 i just Googled this, seems like you were kinda right:
"The average cost to have a baby in the US, without complications during delivery, is $10,808 - which can increase to $30,000 when factoring in care provided before and after pregnancy.9.12.2019"
A knee or hip replacement costs £10,000 for the NHS, a night in an intensive care unit can be £5000.
I can't understand why would anyone get a baby there 😳
Slight critism to be said, the NHS hasn't been flawed it's been mishandled by the last few Governments, including Tory lite (new Labour) underfunding and creating the nhs trusts, trying to runt he NHS like a multiple Busisness's was a mistake it was never meant to make money it's a cost that must be paid to benefit all, the nhs would probably be a lot cheaper to run without private contracts being handed out to serco etc.. to take away services that the NHS used to do it's self, E.G. Cleaning, Some lab testing
Yes the cost was going up in the 80's but that was all caused by the Government at the time her mishanding of the Country was the cause and she used NHS spending as a scape goat, which now has become a cycle of "Oh, look at the NHS budget it keeps going up we have to privateise something to make it more cost efficent" and all it ends up doing is being worse than before and being over budget rinse and repeat.
it's the same with the Rail Service, since it's been private the service has been costing more and more and been less and less efficent and owened more by non-english companies then ever before, and the benefit to anyone using the service has been worse and worse each year.
Wow, it’s like you just discovered the very AMERICAN idea that “the government fucks up everything it touches”.
Amazing! Look at that! You get it now!
@@maerus5227 I'm not American, in fact never been to the USA, and not all governments fuck things up just greedy selfish people who run, on catch phases that mean nothing
@@maerus5227 Can you READ? It was privatizing parts of it that created a lot of mess that it has. And it's still far better than what the US has.
I’m recommending the Canadian pacific railway. It’s Canadas version of the transcontinental railway. (Day 2)
"There was a time in this fair land when the railroad did not run
When the wild majestic mountains stood alone against the sun
Long before the white man and long before the wheel
When the green dark forest was too silent to be real
When the green dark forest was too silent to be real
And many are the dead men
Too silent to be real" -- Gordon Lightfoot, Canadian Railroad Trilogy.
that or CN rail
The NHS has saved my mother's life three times, mine probably four, not even counting the dental work I've had done to prevent or treat life threatening infections, looked after my dad when he was dying. Its waiting times are a pain but crikey moses I dunno what I'd do without it. Well, die, I suppose :P
I had Medicaid because I was adopted and it’s the only good thing I got out of my adoption. I’d pay double the tax just to get that back. And I have a job with a health plan. Millions of Americans don’t even have that.
So every time you get a paper cut, its a life or death situation
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Health officials in America have even admitted to cherry picking data to make it seem like the American way is better. Many opening up from feeling ashamed after witnessing how good healthcare is in Canada and the UK.
"Here's the truth: Our industry PR & lobbying group, AHIP, supplied my colleagues and me with cherry-picked data and anecdotes to make people think Canadians wait endlessly for their care. It's a lie and I'll always regret the disservice I did to folks on both sides of the border ...The U.S. profit-driven corporate model is failing ...I'll regret slandering Canada's system for the rest of my life" - Wendell Potter
@@iCrapBubbles Prove Johns Hopkins lied or go away.
The amount paid for healthcare in the States is staggering. The price he quoted is not per family that actually per person which DOES NOT include high cost copay nor deductible. A copay is what the patient pays of the bill however, often this is too low and a second bill arrives for what the insurance did not cover. The insurance only negotiates the cost down and doesn't pay. A deductible is what the patient has to pay before the insurance will start picking up the tab. The insurance also decides how much a patient paid counts toward their deductible. Yep! So a not far fetched example would be seeing a doctor and paying $70 copay towards the bill which must be paid Before even seeing the doctor. The doctor then bills the insurance for $180 of which if the doctor is considered "in network" aka working with the insurance company their price is negotiated down to $96 by the insurance. Well the doctor still bills the patient for the $26 that wasn't covered by the copay. So yes, the patient usually pays twice. Of this the insurance will likely only count part of this $96 towards the deductible. Okay so how high are deductibles? It is not unheard of today to have deductibles in the $3500 to $4500 range and up. This is IF one can find a doctor who is working with the insurance company aka in network. If one cannot find a doctor within the network the price will be likely $180 instead of $96.
But the States have choices! Well, not really. Insurance is usually a benefit through a person's employer. The employer chooses the insurance company which often comes down to what they can afford to do. The choice that the employee has is which level of this insurance plan from the employer's choice. Well obviously it becomes guess work of just how sick one might be the upcoming year. The more insurance covers of the cost means higher premiums taken out of an employee's paycheck. How much one can afford to have taken out of their paycheck is quite limited. ONLY if a person knows they are going to have a surgery(s) done and if they can find in network doctors will they maybe save some money. It is not unheard of for one spouse to be working to cover insurance.
All of this happens IF someone decides to go to the doctor. Of which, many just skip it. Prices are not upfront at all. There already have been videos of couples trying to figure out which would be the most affordable way to have a baby knowing well mom is pregnant so lets shop around for the best in network doctor and hospital. Yea, go ahead and watch those see how poorly that goes. :(
As someone who works in a Pharmacy in Northern Ireland i feel i have to fact check this. NHS prescriptions are 100% free
Someone further down mentioned it's just Northern Ireland.
@@--enyo-- all 3 of the devolved authorities have removed prescription charges.
@Tim I think for simplicity he called it NHS but it’s called Health and Social Care but it makes up as part of the NHS
1:50 - Chapter 1 - Universal healthcare vs Private heathcare
5:45 - Chapter 2 - Amid the wreckage
7:30 - Chapter 3 - The NHS
9:40 - Chapter 4 - The early decades
11:25 - Chapter 5 - 1960s to the modern day
12:50 - Chapter 6 - Current structure
14:35 - Chapter 7 - Funding
15:20 - Chapter 8 - The future
Let's see how much an American citizen spends on average to treat some of the most common diseases:
Appendectomy: $ 17,000
Anesthesia: ranging from $ 500 for local anesthesia to $ 5000 for general anesthesia (it depends on the type of operation and especially on its duration);
Emergency room visit: $ 150 to $ 3,000 based on patient condition and required tests;
Ambulance: between $ 400 and $ 1200 (depending on the location, in states such as New York and California they are close to the highest price);
Broken arm: starting at $ 2,500 without surgery;
Visit to the dentist: $ 250;
X-ray at the dentist: $ 250;
Filling: $ 200;
Sprained wrist, which usually also includes radiography and the doctor's fee, costs an average of $ 500;
Fractured wrist $ 2,500;
Radiography: $ 190 to $ 1000;
Fractured Wrist Surgery: $ 8,000;
Sprained ankle: $ 500 to $ 2500
Tonsillectomy: $ 5,500;
Cholecystectomy: $ 11,000;
Trauma surgery: Cost can range from $ 110,000 to $ 200,000 depending on the severity of the injuries.
The average cost of an insurance premium (data referring to 2017) for the coverage of an individual is approximately $ 393 per month
Basically, in America if you are poor, you are dead, if you are not and you get sick, you will become poor and then you will die.
Addendum, if you're in a NHS based country and you've outlived your usefulness...you die...
@@Rammstein0963. Nice story to scare the children
Working people do have to pay a flat rate ( 3 tiers I think depending on what is needed ) for dentistry work if you go through the NHS but it is better priced than if you go private.
Alas , there's waiting times for NHS dentists too .
As a Brit studying to hopefully work I’m the NHS I can confirm we are immensely proud of the NHS. Keep up the good work against the pandemic!
1) as Simon said, the problem with the US is more of the medical cost rather than universal health care. With the super high medical cost in the US, it's just going to bankrupt the system sooner.
2) the VA system in the US is actually a single-payer system. So we do have "universal" healthcare in the US, if you served in the armed forces.
3) NHS is a single-payer system (pay by tax), whereas Obamacare just makes you pay an insurance company.
But something else to consider is that preventative care is far cheaper than people waiting until something gets so bad they're literally dying. For example, in Australia we have many screening programs available for free or greatly discounted. So you can detect and treat things like abnormal cervical smears, or dysplastic bowel polyps with day procedures rather than they become cancer and the person dies, is disabled, or requires major surgery and inpatient admission. Anything involving inpatient admission (or even turning up at ED) is very, very costly. Or just people being able to regularly go to their GP without needing to worry about cost so they can get these screens, or check something that's just niggling before it gets worse. Or get regular reviews on their diabetes and blood pressure etc (plus greatly discounted medication on PBS), so that they remain active, healthy, productive members of society, rather than turning up in ED with a heart attack, or diabetic ulcers so bad they need a BKA, or renal failure that now requires dialysis. People with chronic conditions that are well managed are going to give much more back than people disabled because they couldn't afford treatment when things weren't too far gone.
The VA is a fucking joke. You have veterans that can't get the mental help that they need and are blowing their brains out at the facilities trying to raise alerts on that they don't give a damn about my brothers and sisters.
Privatization of healthcare benefits the insurance industry.
Literally no one else.
It also benefits advertising companies.
Unless you remove the middleman... the medical insurance industry
I dont know, it seems to me if youre getting superior healthcare and at a price youre happy to pay then both parties benefit.
Suppose car insurance, house insurance etc benefit no one but insurance companies??? Makes you wonder why millions of people do it if no one benefit. I wonder what can be the benefit of having someone else pay for a sudden unexpected cost 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@nicosmind3 but you realise insurance companies dont provide care? Like they're not gonna stick a plaster on your broken leg, or give you drugs, or restart your heart. Like you dont get superior healthcare, the same way better car insurance doesnt give you a Lamborghini.
@@nicosmind3 @Bitchute is better than CZcams the question wasn't that nobody benefits... fatal flaw in your argument. Deductibles are alot lower for one, 2, have you ever been denied a car insurance claim? 3, Car insurance is required to drive. Oh wait, healthcare is required to live, my bad.
Got to give your some props my man, you did your best to keep it unbiased!
Except he is never unbiased
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
@@MenChooseSlavesObey The NHS is great, the government being a bunch if bumbling, incompetent idiots and the general public not giving a shit about the whole wearing a mask properly (seriously, IT GOES OVER YOU MOUTH AND NOSE! NOT YOUR FUCKING CHIN!) is what made it such a shit show here. If you want to see how most of us feel about the way this was handled then look for Jonathon Pie's video "A Tragedy of Indecision".
You just HAVE to do the upcoming James Webb telescope. Everything about that thing is absolutely incredible.
Feels like it's been upcoming forever
What is not usually mentioned in things about the N.H.S. is the BILLIONS it has saved the economy. Access to healthcare allows people to return to work after an injury faster and allow those who are ill to work. People who previously couldn't work or could only work in a limited capacity found that they could work after treatment through the N.H.S.
It is deplorable that somebody I knew, a mother of young children had to make the decision to either get treatment for her cancer and bankrupt their family, losing the family home or to die but know that her family would be provided for and safe in a home they loved. This is a decision played out daily in the U.S. and it is terrible that a country so powerful cares so little for its citizens.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Well you are only looking at one thing in odd circumstances, the N.H.S regularly scores higher over a range of various things than the U.S. healthcare system in academic studies.
Even if it WERE worse than the U.S. system, it would still be available to all at point of service, a poor service is better than none at all!
@@tedrex8959 U.S. having a Lower Covid Death Rate while having almost twice the Pop of the UK, Canada & Australia Combined is Objectively Better by any metric Common Sense.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Weeelll it would be if addressed my points, that the NHS has saved the economy money and that the U.S. has people that choose death over treatment and bankruptcy because the cost of healthcare is so high.
The U.S reporting has been, shall we say, spotty at best in some states unlike in the U.K. the government sets a single standard for reporting. Even if it is a correcf figure it doesn't include factors such as ethnicity, wealth, age etc making it useless as a judge of how good a healthcare system the N.H.S. system is. However the last reasearch I read placed the U.S. well below both the N.H.S. and many other systems of "socialised" medicine.
@@tedrex8959 its' Johns Hopkins, it's correct and the demographic of our countries are pretty close to one another, whatever you choose to believe is irrelevant.
But if everyone got healthcare for free, how would insurance companies keep holding Americans hostage?
Car insurance?
You think that's bad. Where would the politicians get their kick backs from? They would end up having to live on their salaries! Well, that and the other kick backs that's another story entirely.
Interesting assertion that's not backed up in the slightest.
3:30 "disillusioned with long wait times" lol I had to wait 22 hours in the er at johns Hopkins before I got a bed.
I highly doubt that but ya give no information bc you probably weren’t that critical
Long ER wait times are due to the fact many use ER doctors as their primary physician. Problems that could be handled with an appointment get worse and end up costing more in cash and time in the ER waiting rooms.
lol I'm Canadian. Two years ago, I sprained my ankle badly. In 60 minutes, I was examined by a physician, X-Ray'd, re-examined and given a prescription (and a sick note to skip work). I paid $20 for the sick note and $8 as co-pay for the prescription.
@@sammorrow8420 yeah being in Baltimore that was a huge issue. I remember seeing a guy waiting to be seen wrestling around with his gf like they were on a date.
@@mlu007 Exactly. Had phenomenal care after bad accident. Paid $20 for two ambulance rides, including one between cities. Our patient care is triaged based on need. You have to wait your turn because other people need help sooner. That's what civilised people do.
Megaproject Suggestion. Longest deep bore ice core in Antarctica. Took years, loads of drama with it and they found some cool stuff like a fresh water lake under the ice containing previously unknown lifeforms. Would go Well with the other hole projects that are popular
Speaking of deep holes, how about the Kidd Mine as well?
Try to do the House of Parliament in Romania. The second largest administrative building in the world after the Pentagon. Its maaaaasive!
Didnt he do that one on Geographics, or was that another massive eastern european government building?
My memory is terrible.
@@ClaymooreEOC found it. Tnx
That was Ceaucesco palace right? I only remember since they let the Top Gear boys drive under it.
It's so big it's sinking into the ground!
A quick tally of what the NHS has done for me, my parents and 2 sisters
5 births, one by emergency caesarean
12 scheduled operations
1 hip replacement
9 emergency operations ( family are a bit clumsy)
Long stays on Intensive Care & High Dependency wards
Countless doctors appointments
Cancer care
And never had we have to produce our bank card
We really ought to be eternally thankful
Future video idea: Toyota’s the Woven City. It’s an experimental city that will test how emerging technology will change how we live and societies operate.
@1:55 there is a conflation of public and universal healthcare. For example, in the Netherlands health insurance is private (other than indicated in the graphic), but it is universal (there is an individual mandate - everyone must buy it, and there is help for the poor).
I’m honestly surprised you didn’t mention Bevan, the architect of the NHS
this video is mainly about the comparison with the US
@@Kabodanki No it isn't. Have you even watched the video?
Nationalising private industries and structures to make a much more expensive and less efficient system, and people praise the government for spending more than 5x the money they need to, and deliviering a much poorer service.
Its anazing to me. Its like seeing your children go from being well feed to malnutrition, and praising the government for stealing your food, but giving back enough so your children dont starve
@@nicosmind3 and yet people adore this system because it means those who cannot afford private care can get help no matter what. It means that you aren’t burdened with how much money you have in your pocket and risk long term issues by not seeking help. You say this is taking the food out of the mouths of your children but it isn’t, it’s like donating to a food bank to help others who can’t afford it themselves
@@nicosmind3 Meanwhile in Reality... As the video states, The UK pays **half** what the US does per person - and gets pretty much Universal Healthcare in return. You talk about gov's stealing - its more like shareholders holding the life of your loved ones to ransom.
That being said; our system is swamped by new cases of COVID. We simply don’t have the infrastructure to deal with it. If you have a broken arm or leg, you’re going to be fine. If you have a mental health issue, you can get help (unless you live in a small town like me, then you’re screwed. I have tried.) But we’re not equipped for this pandemic. This is evident across our nation. Outbreaks in regions with small hospitals cannot stop the spread of infection. We are dying, because we lack the resources to stop the spread.
i live in Norway and have free healthcare but pay for private insurance also, because free healthcare lines are sometimes long.
Many are afraid of the socialist part of free health care and high taxes, but in total its better for everyone even if you dont get sick.
We may mock it, we may complain about it, and we may denigrate it, but by heck us brits are both glad and proud to have it, the NHS is a world standard in universal healthcare for all...
Yes, indeed it is. But people shouldn’t get mad when people from OTHER countries don’t want universal healthcare for all.
I just came to the comments section to see US citizens complain about the benefits of living in a civilised country where people get state healthcare.
The us has the VA, Medicare, and Medicaid.
The problem is that most of it is administered at the state level (with federal funding) so we have 51+ different implementations.
Yeah, the NHS is a real success story! I love reading stories in The Daily Mail extolling its virtues.
@@kayakutah reading the Daily Fail was your first mistake.
@@kayakutah I mean a good chunk of the uk population is alive today because of the NHS, and the daily fail is a Conservative/right wing aligned newspaper thats ideologically opposed to social programs like the NHS. That means that any article about the NHS is going to be twisted to fit that ideology, same goes for left wing publications extolling the virtues, they are inclined to support the NHS and ignore its faults.
From the US, let me say that I have long been a proponent of a single-payer, national healthcare system. The one we have now is broken, expensive, and terribly hit-or-miss in terms of results.
I love the NHS it's a core foundation stone for being British we have this service free to all regardless of anything like colour race or gender long live the NHS thank you to the UK government for starting this years ago.
As a health admin major I really appreciate this video
As a person who has been in and out of hospitals his whole life I think hospital administrators are assholes who creat more problems than they solve
We have universal healthcare in New Zealand. It's saved my life many times. Now I have MS and it's looking after me again. Without it I would have died 21 years ago. As Kiwis we value our social healthcare, everyone should receive the care they need, regardless of their financial means. That's a cornerstone of a fair and equitable society. The private healthcare model devalues the lives of the less fortunate, it dehumanizes them, it makes it obvious who's worth saving and who isn't. That's simply not right in a civilised society.
What I see a lot is, older folks bitching about how universal health care would be Socialism, while at the same time they've got Medicare or free VA health care to take care of them. Hypocritical.
Use taxes for an outrageous military budget: no problem
Use taxes for universal health care: Socialism!
Funny thing is as vet in the US we have universal health care for active duty and veterans. Those are usually the first ones bitching calling Obamacare socialism.
I'm British and most of this video hits the nail on the head, the only thing I wish it delved more into is the efficiency of the NHS, its no secret that nationalised institutions suffer from pretty extreme inefficiency, and the NHS is no different, over the years, I've seen many stories of wait times, quality of care and motivation in the NHS slowly declining, a quick example is A&E, known as the ER in America,
Go into the A&E department, wait around 30 minutes to an hour,
Get assessed by a nurse and placed into a category of urgency, green, amber or red.
Red - seen within 30 mins
Amber - seen 30 mins - 1 hour
Green - seen within 3 hours.
This system is heavily flawed because many people who enter A&E do not need to be there, headaches, coughing, general pain etc could wait until the morning when a GP visit can be arranged, instead, they are seen, which only increases delays in the department, the efficient way, if it was privatised would be doctors assessing you as you come in (Nurses CAN NOT discharge you) and discharge people if necessary, people can then receive immediate care, the doctors are available, unless its a weekend, where they are stretched thin.
This is only worse with routing appointments, you can be waiting up to 3 months for a heart ECG, then another 2 months for the results, then another 2 months to see a specialist, that's 7 months, and when your telephone consultation with the specialist finally arrives, they will cancel and rearrange for next month - this is so they can hit deadlines.
The main point of this is to show Americans, yes it's free, and yes it's excellent for life-threatening emergencies, surgery, broken legs, knife wounds etc, but for chronic illness and other minor illness, its really not fit for purpose, and in many cases, it's worth it to pay for a private consultation with Bupa UK or similar, because they are actually interested in getting you better because they only get paid that way, the NHS workers get paid regardless.
That's not to say that all NHS workers are lazy, far from it, but many ward nurses (and I want to stress, this does NOT apply to A&E) are unmotivated, lazy and frankly get paid for doing the bare minimum, some people have their drips blocked and they say they'll go and get someone to fix it, when they could do it themselves, instead of working with patients, a lot of them treat it as a chat room, sitting around talking, and it's disappointing to the many people in the wards, because they know if there was some sort of incentive to work, a push from management, many of the budget problems and other issues with wait times could be reduced MASSIVELY, this is seen with private healthcare.
I'm passionate about our NHS, but it's so fundamentally flawed and more money won't fix the problem, they always want more money, and in some respects, they deserve it, but I've seen it first hand, nurses are taught in nursing school to complain about more money, this isn't the way the NHS should be, and it needs an urgent overhaul to get back to the world-class system it SHOULD be, because at the moment, it's turning out a lot like the former nationalised steel and airport workers, a lot of people walking around, getting paid for doing absolutely nothing.
GPs now won't see you without a telephone appointment to see if its a major issue, this can take 1-2 weeks to do, before you get an answer, you have to fill in a 2-hour survey on your problems, where If you mention palpitations or a cough, it throws you out and tells you to call 999, (911 in the USA obviously). Things like the latter wouldn't be acceptable in a private institution, because it is inefficient and wastes money, the problem is, our politicians are so out of touch and all the labour party wants to do is throw money at it, and money won't fix a flawed system!
TL:DR, the NHS is excellent, but its fundamentally flawed with wait-time problems, quality of care and motivation, and money won't fix it.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
Simon Do The Arecibo Radio Telescope
i second this!
I third that motion.
I thought it had already been done?
@@kus88 it died last week
And believe me, Europe has got nothing on us for wait times at hospitals and doctors offices.
National health care is NOT free you still pay for it , just via taxes etc, what many people from the US dont understand. Lots of money is wasted in the NHS , i should know , i work in it . Most important thing is not the NHS itself , its the principle and the idea.
over half a million people a year go bankrupt due to a medical bill in america each year. im happy for them to continue wasting my taxes. the system works. could it be improved!? of course. but it does work
They waste money but far less than American companies.
While the NHS has its faults, its economies of scale more than make up for any wasteful practices.
The UK government spends less per capita on healthcare than the US government.
The NHS saves a fortune by not having private insurance companies skimming off their share of the profits.
The NHS is brilliant, it has saved both mine and my family members lives, and almost everyone I know was born in an NHS hospital. However, sometimes the treatment is shockingly bad and that needs to be addressed
My friend in the USA had to go to hospital. They took her to the wrong one where she wasn’t covered by her insurance policy. That hospital wouldn’t release her, so she had to pay for the treatment. And that sucks :o(
Your friend is lying out the ass, or you are.
Its called leaving against medical advise or AMA. Kidnapping is a federal offense. Treat your lack of knowledge with a book.
There seems to be some confusion here about if this happened. Yes it happened. If you don’t believe me, go on twitter and ask kaylee herself.
@@teamidris i don't doubt they billed her but they can't hold you against your will unless you are a danger to yourself or others. One hospital tried to tell me that they had the right to search my mother's purse because she was in the hospital, I threated to call the police if they did and they didn't do it. Hospital staff can be pushy but if you know your rights...
Might have been mentioned elsewhere in the comments but we in Northern Ireland do not pay for our prescriptions. This has been the case for several years now.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
I am an American and this episode made me cry at the possibilities that could come into being for our health care once we get rid of the current fascist regime
That's a very epic title to describe morons, and elderly people.
You live in a dream world. National Health Care won't happen under a Democrat government, any more than a Republican one.
I live in the U.K. and i'm Disabled. I get somewhat frustrated with the NHS. I had a very interesting conversation with a lovely lady from Texas. I told her I andmired the resilliance and community spirit there is in the states for people on lower income. while i had to admit i probably not fare very well in the states I told her i'd much rather live in a system where, assuming I could afford to, I had more control of my healthcare needs.
To all of the comments on other health care systems around the world compared to the NHS we have in the UK. We have the best system by far! Call it what you like, but we pay our taxes and get free point of service. I gladly pay 20% tax on my income to have such things, there isn't a country in the world I would rather be. I can walk down the street without fear, I could call the police without fear its called a civilised society.
This is not a race, but I respectfully suggest that the Australian system is pretty good too.
Alan Australia's has to be good when everything wants to kill you there lol
NZ isn't too shabby either
I have never been in a place I was more scared to walk down the street than the UK.The number of savages one can encounter there is staggering
The "Frauenkirche" in Dresden, Germany would surely be worth a megaprojects' video! After all, its not only a reconstructed building, whose original stones were enumerated and stored for a few decades, it's become a symbol of reconciliation after the pains of the second world war...
The hospital in the thumbnail is the QE2 hospital in Birmingham. They're caring for my nephew right now and working small miracles.
QE2 is a Ship. I know what you mean though.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey My nephew's healthcare has nothing to do with Corona, so go peddle your private healthcare propaganda BS misinformation elsewhere. Nationalised healthcare means my family won't be bankrupted by the cost of his treatment. In fact it won't cost a penny.
@@davidwashbrook9885 Johns Hopkins is BS? The U.S. has three times the people as the UK & Canada Combined and our death rate from Covid is Less, facts don't care about your feelings.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey My lived in reality doesn't care about your feelings.
This conversation is over. Troll.
Love the video and the shout out to NHS staff! As a final year medical student I was lucky enough to work as health care assistant on a gastroenterology ward while my placements were on hold. Although it was a difficult time for all (and it certainly had it ups and down) I honestly loved the team I was working in. The dedication of the nurses, doctors, health care assistants and Allied health professionals was truly inspiring! It certainly is true however that the NHS has its issues, many staff will happily moan about how outdated and slow the computer systems are (which has definitely caused some problems with the move to more virtual consultations). All in all though, I think the NHS works, despite its flaws, because fundamentally it’s something that is greater than the sum of its parts.
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Just to make it clear as an example my retirement age for the state was 65 as a key worker in stealth for the Royal Navy I stayed on till 70, in these 5 years of additional full time work I did not pay National Insurance it was the same for everyone who worked past their retirement age.
God Bless Socialized health care ...
All our Love - Canada
I also love Canada and their healthcare. I work in a health system all the way down in Southern California and a surprisingly amount of our care is to Canadians... AND they pay cash. God Bless Canada and their National Health Care system for enriching our hospitals especially along the border where the percentage of Canadian patients is much higher.
@@metriccruiser God bless the rich for theirs is the kingdom of heathcare. In the 🇺🇸
@@metriccruiser And I would bet most of them are snowbirds, who winter there, who pay cash because they got health insurance that requires prepayment.
I’m in the US and my wife had a surgery a couple years ago. It cost us $6,000 out of pocket on top of the 500 dollars per month I pay in medical premiums.
I'm glad I grew up in Canada with universal healthcare, or else my family would have been bankrupted by all my surgeries and other healthcare needs. I'm also glad for the NHS in the UK -- I got an ear infection once when I was on holiday there, and it cost me nothing for the clinic appointment and only 7 quid for the medication!
Emergency medical care is free in the NHS regardless if you're American, Candian, or British/
If you required surgery however, they'd charge you for treatment, but not the British person.
Here in Australia we have Medicare. And we're bloody grateful for it.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5%, Australias' is 3.2% Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has more than Twice the population as U.K., Australia & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
4 minutes, earliest I've ever been, aside from the bedroom, of course. :-)
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I can relate to this comment on a spiritual level lol
That long eh? Bet your palm had friction burns. Might want to get those looked at.
You don't have to pay for prescriptions in Northern Ireland
Do west Edmonton mall its the biggest mall in North America, (48 blocks) has a amusement park ,water park casino and hotel built in
I was near the skating rink and a bit around there. Was too vast to see all in one half a day.
I'm super grateful for the NHS, has always been there on the occasion I've really needed it.
I commented this a while back so glad it got picked
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey putting aside your grasp on percentages vs population size. You also miss the point that the US was a little later to the "COVID PARTY" so were able to benefit from increased preparation time as well as hard won medical advances in the treatment of more severe symptoms.
@@richardmould923 U.S. has had 15,842,789, UK has had 1,814,395, Australia has had 28,025, Canada has had 455,579.
How much more travel does the U.S. get than all three of those countries combined?
The U.S. did more while doing it for more & yes the reality is it just costs more, I'll trade money for life any nano second of any day, learn to account for yourself.
According to 2011 UK census, there are ~37.7 million people in the UK between the ages of 20 and 65.
1.4 million NHS workers means 3,7% for the workforce works for the government, just on the NHS alone.
This looks very sustainable...
Damn Simon this video has a rabbit hole of a comment section that I just have to stop trying to read as there are several layers of stupid bullsh*t in it that is driving up my blood pressure just by trying to make sense of it all. Great video btw. Keep up the good work
2:01 South Africa’s public (government) sector is largely free, I’d say that’s more green than blue. It’s saved my life on a number of occasions, doctors were fantastic and other than long waits, effective. Although it’s not the case for all areas of South Africa (Western Cape being the best for public healthcare) and does need more funding.
There is also a rather extensive and highly resourced private healthcare system which would be available to those with medical aid (~ $10 on the cheapest side and up depending on benefits)or have the money. During COVID-19 some private healthcare facilities have been instructed by the government to accept and treat admissions for COVID.
Merry Christmas! You all get health care!
There's one change that the Tories have consistently done for decades and that's to not adjust NHS funding levels with inflation. And that's a huge part of the reason why the NHS trusts and the NHS as a whole have ended up with funding difficulties.
uk inflation rate from 2016 has been decreasing yet budget increases every year, biggest drains are ever increasing health costs for self inflicted health problems i.e drink and drugs also the nations ever expanding waistline, also the ever increasing number of people who are using the service yet never paid into the system.
Of course the Tories hate the NHS, they can’t hand all the jobs to their rich mates (yet), but they sure are trying.
The average cost of American health insurance is closer to $1000 a month and rising constantly.
Lie. It’s $321. And that doesn’t count Medicare and Medicaid, which are $0.
The NHS proved its worth its weight in Gold all throughout its history, especially during current events. If it got privatised, it would be a truely sad day in our history.
We have indeed have taken it very much for granted.
I've had various treatments on the NHS, 2 of them serious. Had it not been for the NHS i'd be staring at a bill for upwards of £100,000. Both Acute, so I was in and out quickly with minmal follow up visits. I just can't begin to imagine the burden on my shoulders of that kind of debt. I'm truly grateful for our NHS and I can't begin to articulate how much we need to hold on to it.
Sydney Opera House was a huge project. Might be worth looking into Simon.
I had to go to the ER a few months ago because the steroids I was given for poison oak jacked my blood pressure up like crazy. I lost about half a my paycheck, paid a $150 deductible, and I still have $700 of a $1,600 medical bill left.
Until the US gets health care figured out, I will not go to the ER unless I am physically dragged there by other people.
The NHS is fantastic. I am Scottish.
According to Johns Hopkins Covid Case Fatality report, the United States is currently at 1.9%, the United Kingdoms' is 3.5% and Canadas' 2.9% and the U.S. has three times the population as U.K. & Canada Combined, It would seem the whole national healthcare being a good thing isn't supported the results.
@@MenChooseSlavesObey Yay copy/paste replies. I'm impressed that you tackled this nearly 40 times. That report is deaths in hospital. You do realize that Americans who don't have health insurance or haven't met their deductible don't go the hospital, that's a pool of approximately 30 million people skipping on care. The US case and an mortality rate are significantly under reported. www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/
I used to work at Park hospital, now Trafford General. Nice place for a hospital
My mother had a Neurostimulator fitted in the Hospital in the thumbnail, total cost £0. I would hate to receive a huge bill for medical care.
It wasn't 0 I can assure you that.
@@ChickenPermissionOG Total cost to her was £ 0, She didn't get a bill. It was already paid through tax and NI contributions. I paid for parking at the hospital when I visited so I guess you are technically correct.
@@AndyR072 exactly it didn't cost her 0
@@ChickenPermissionOG Actually you're still wrong because the OP paid for parking, not his mum.
@@--enyo-- You don't understand cost.
As an emt in the US I can say it sounds great and I'm sure it works awesome in other countries, but it's just not feasible here,
As many times as I've gotten calls for stupid things like "it's snowing out, I'll call an emergency ambulance to try to get them to taxi me to my surgery that's 90 minutes away on a good day" (yes I got that as a real call a while back) it would leave us in financial ruin in record time
They're human beings like us you know... You don't think stupid shit like that happens in other countries? That's a terrible argument for letting people die, and you're supposed to be an emt...
I always laugh in peoples faces when they try to argue that a private system is better. Their arguments pretty much boil down to propaganda thought up by rich people / drug & insurance companies to trick poor people.
Ok. No more new medical advancements for ANYONE then. Have fun with 2020-era medicine for the foreseeable far future. Because that’s what happens if the US goes single payer.
Plus, you do know that poor people get medicaid, right?
The problem with Obama care is that , the people who don't work often get free health care , the people in the working class often get over charged , my uncle had to pay over 700 each month for the Affordable care act ,lol
He only makes 47,000$ a yr. And he pays over 16,000$ in tax , not counting property tax . then the government forces us to pay for insurance we can't afford.
Simon, in American people typically wait months or years to seek medical attention for health issue because we can't really afford treatment. Does that happen in the good countries?
That is a complete lie and you know it. Complete and total falsification to push your political narrative.
Name me ONE personal example of that.
@@shikkonin exactly. The costs are EXTREME, and 1/2 or more of Americans simply aren’t willing to consent to being taxed at the rate required to pay for it.
I’m all for finding a way to get costs down in the first place. I am NOT for universal healthcare in a FREE country of 330M people that don’t consent to their taxes jumping by 20-30%.
I put up with two full weeks of abdominal muscle inflammation contraction from a bacterial infection.
Why you may ask? I am an American, and as such I am fraking terrified of medical costs.
I would be in the ground now with the words "Death Before Debt" on my tombstone if I didn't have a caring & equally stubborn family.
I don’t go to the hospital anymore, unless I have a gaping wound.
Well duh.... that’s what the hospital is for. Immediate care, clinics, and family doctors are for other stuff.
For the Americans reading this, to give an idea of UK tax rates/how much we pay for the NHS each month, I made £26,500 last financial year, my effective tax rate was 18% (so 18% of my total income went to taxes), and the amount of my taxes that went to the NHS each month was about £85. Considering what Simon said about the average American paying nearly 5 times that for private cover, the benefits of universal healthcare seem pretty clear to me.
loved the content Simon -- so glad Canada has UHC
The middle ground that my country did is subsidy in public hospitals and co-pay. That means you are still encourage to be healthy and responsible while also keeping cost lower than other country.