Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone. I have been trying to figure out how to measure all coils at once. Thanks for the info and how to build the tools. My boxes are full of Mac and Snap On it’s also packed with custom tools I built. I have always measured them one at a time and record then compare. This is far superior. Thanks again. I have been working on cars for almost 30 years. I try to learn something new each day. Now I know how to measure all coils at once. My way of thinking is if you can build it why buy it? My favorite just because of the name one of the mechanics gave it is for removing the front crank bolt on BMWs from 84-91 6 cylinder that use a timing belt. The bolt is torqued to 250 ft lbs. he named it the orgasmatron. It looks like a mid evil weapon. The factory tool is $600+ I built it from scrap with a welder I had 15 minutes total in figuring it out and building it.
Nice probe Ramon! I use the PP361 Pico Mixmaster 12 channel with additional PP369 Set of 4 HT Leads so I can do 8 cyl engines. I could do 12 cyl engines if I got another set of 4. I bought mine from AutoNerdz but AESwave also has it.
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Until I decide what compound transducer I want to try I have gone back to making a voltage chart for each one, but I think the compound transducer is the answer
Any conductor will work. You just have to play with it and see what works for you. I got these copper bars from eBay and that was over a year ago. Pretty cool tool if you use secondary ignition in your diagnostic process.👍👍😊
This looks like a commercial product already! I am wondering if neatly wrapped electrical tape would work instead of plastidip? Also, would old-school bronze ribbon weatherstripping for doors work for this project (easier to get, perhaps)?
Dmitriy L. I don’t know about electrical tape. It would make me nervous. This setup works well for me but I believe any conductor would work. Only thing I don’t know is amplitude of a signal from different conductors. Cheers 👍👍
Really cool tool, I would love to build but can't find the snap on cable to connect to scope. Any good ideas on where I could find one? Part number of cable might help. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
If you don't have a Snap-On cable, would you just hook the ground to the disconnected shielding of a standard RCA cable? Is the a simple schematic for adding capacitance protection?
It's neither! -- it's a capacitive voltage divider. Search for "princeton ignition waveforms" and look at page 5. There could also be a 100KOhm resistor in series with the probe, and a TVS diode at the oscilloscope input for a good measure.
THAT WAS THE BEST , I HAVE A QUESTION WILL I BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ONE OF YOUR HOME MADE IGNITION PROBES ALSO AND CAN I USE AN INJECTOR SYNC WITH AN INCERLINDER PRESSURE TRANSDUCER TO CHECK TIMING AND THANKS SO MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY .
Ramon, hello it is always pleasure to watch your videos always learn new things great things comes from great man like you really enjoyed every minute of this video. cheeeeeeers
@@kyhomegarage3430 It seems the OTC tool (or Pico Mixmaster) should not be too complex to make. These are going for $350 or higher. You think something like running each signal in parallel each with its own diode might be good enough for a DIY'er?
@@kyhomegarage3430 Thanks for the response. For the waste spark systems, does the OTC tool simply invert the voltage of the opposite polarity waveform and combine it, thus allowing the scope to display the combined superimposed ignition and inverted waste spark (or inverted ignition and waste spark) pairs? www.motor.com/magazinepdfs/071999_06.pdf I'm guessing the OTC tool is not smart enough to simply ignore or filter the signal from the waste spark altogether and only send a signal from the firing partner to the scope. In reading from the link above, it seems as if superimposing the ignition + inverted waste spark doesn't really matter in analyzing the waveform patterns as I'm guessing each of the waveform pairs have similar patterns (albeit voltage absolute magnitudes are different) thus the combined signals should superimpose on each other nicely as long as one is inverted?
Louis Pasnik yes it does. If your signal is inverted all you need to do is plug your lead to another row on your tool and signal will be inverted. Thank you
Hello sir!congrats for your repair information and for your handmade tools ideas and tips sharing with us!I want to ask you about the cooper bar multi signals from the ignition coils in one channel can we do something similar and from the injectors signals? Multi signals injectors all in one channel?with a different way of course not with a cooper bar!best regards!!I look forward to your reply!!
@@kyhomegarage3430 thank you very much for your quick response!!!if we take for example in a 4 cylinder engine 4 wires and connect in to signal wire of injectors and the other side of this wire connect all together with a common wire and with an adapter connect to one pico lead we will see 4 signal together?and this is safe for pico?in my mind I have the 4 to 1 wire like this from awswave www.aeswave.com/uIsolate-Network-Isolator-p9669.html best regards!
The main thing and the only important thing of this probe is oscilloscope PROTECTION that is between oscilloscope and the metal stick at the end. Yet, I do not see any discussion anywhere of this ONLY IMPORTANT thing: what is capacitor (if any), or what is the name of the VERY SPECIAL cable that is used between oscilloscope and the dumb metal stick at the end. What is the SMART part of this probe? I see no such discussion.
Its a stupid cable from stupid Snap on ignition tester with stupid capacitor built in to it protect stupid oscilloscope. Probably has some stupid name anyway which I don’t know. Thank you for watching.
@@kyhomegarage3430 It is NOT a matter of exchanging childish name calling. It is a matter of protecting EXPENSIVE oscilloscope from being bricked. Only cable design can protect it. Name calling, like children, does not help anything. I asked for serious information to protect my (and readers' scopes).
What II meant by "stupid" or "silly" (or any names I might used): the piece of metal at the end is not "smart" in a way it does not provide any protection from voltage spikes. Piece of metal bricks the oscilloscope. We need "smart" protection from cable design: capacitors and resistors are inside of the cable (usually). I might have woken up some incorrect emotions in you by using wrong wordings initially.
Mambre Khachatryan thank you I am glad you enjoyed this video. I don’t need to use attenuator because as you could see voltage input is less than 200 mv but I do use cable with capacitor in case of voltage spike from faulty ignition coil. Also my probes are very well insulated. I hope this answers your question. Thank you.
I have issues with the transducers not showing 0 psi at the exhaust stroke so that I can accurately test back pressure. I am now looking into compound transducers
J.R. Robinson that is same problem I have. My was working fine for long time and now every time I use it part of my waveform will drop below zero line and I don’t know why. I just got fluke PV 350 works great. Will do video soon.👍👍
Thedons brewery not that I know. But you don’t want to use any adapter. This snap on ignition cable provides protection to scope in case of open plug or ignition coil.
Great tool design and good use of the Plasti Dip!
Very informative. Thanks. I think video comparing dielectric strength of heat shrink vs Plasti-Dip would be interesting.
Great job..!
use a small diameter pcv pipe with a cap to dip the bar without using too much solution?
Thanks for the shout out, Ramon. It's appreciated!
logical canuck you are welcome my friend. Keep up good work 👍👍
Great video and thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone. I have been trying to figure out how to measure all coils at once. Thanks for the info and how to build the tools. My boxes are full of Mac and Snap On it’s also packed with custom tools I built. I have always measured them one at a time and record then compare. This is far superior. Thanks again. I have been working on cars for almost 30 years. I try to learn something new each day. Now I know how to measure all coils at once. My way of thinking is if you can build it why buy it? My favorite just because of the name one of the mechanics gave it is for removing the front crank bolt on BMWs from 84-91 6 cylinder that use a timing belt. The bolt is torqued to 250 ft lbs. he named it the orgasmatron. It looks like a mid evil weapon. The factory tool is $600+ I built it from scrap with a welder I had 15 minutes total in figuring it out and building it.
All Things M3 love that name my friend. I enjoy making my own tools. If you have grinder, welder and acetylene torch sky is the limit.😁😁👍
Nice probe Ramon! I use the PP361 Pico Mixmaster 12 channel with additional PP369 Set of 4 HT Leads so I can do 8 cyl engines. I could do 12 cyl engines if I got another set of 4. I bought mine from AutoNerdz but AESwave also has it.
Hayward's Automotive that is nice kit. I watched Maic Salazar using that setup in one of his videos. Cheers my friend👍👍👍
That's really ingenious!! Awesome video and I definitely plan to build one as well. Thank you !!
ElectronMark Boggess thank you my friend I am glad you like this setup. It works great 👍
All of these years I've had RCA to BNC adapters and never knew what I'd ever use them for. Until I started using my scope on the car...
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Dude all of those cylinders are firing outside of the combustion chamber!!!
Until I decide what compound transducer I want to try I have gone back to making a voltage chart for each one, but I think the compound transducer is the answer
What a great way to get secondary! Thanks for sharing this with us!
PAULY'S AUTO thank you for watching my friend. This tool works great. I use it all the time.👍
brilliant homemade tool. can you tell me exactly what type of cable I need to build this please..thanks alot very cool
What a great idea, I wonder if using a thin sheet of copper instead of a thick bar might allow for the tool to be flexible like the snap on
Any conductor will work. You just have to play with it and see what works for you. I got these copper bars from eBay and that was over a year ago. Pretty cool tool if you use secondary ignition in your diagnostic process.👍👍😊
That is really cool. It's very impressive u built ur own. I'm trying to learn how to use my verus pro labscope
Thank you my friend. This tool is very useful for sure.😊👍
Maybe use a drywaller's "mud" tray to be able to dip the whole bars at once.
This looks like a commercial product already! I am wondering if neatly wrapped electrical tape would work instead of plastidip? Also, would old-school bronze ribbon weatherstripping for doors work for this project (easier to get, perhaps)?
Dmitriy L. I don’t know about electrical tape. It would make me nervous. This setup works well for me but I believe any conductor would work. Only thing I don’t know is amplitude of a signal from different conductors. Cheers 👍👍
Really cool tool, I would love to build but can't find the snap on cable to connect to scope. Any good ideas on where I could find one? Part number of cable might help. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
Hi my friend. Here is used one on eBay
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good job
what . a great idea, thanks for sharing. I neverl iked any of the options for Verus
Julio Cruz Thank you sir. This adapter works very well. I use it every time I have a car with misfire .👍👍
dont forgot about grounding a stick probe
I do with snap on cable
If you don't have a Snap-On cable, would you just hook the ground to the disconnected shielding of a standard RCA cable? Is the a simple schematic for adding capacitance protection?
Also, is the capacitance protection in the Snap-On scope just a 10:1 or 20:1 adapter?
It's neither! -- it's a capacitive voltage divider. Search for "princeton ignition waveforms" and look at page 5. There could also be a 100KOhm resistor in series with the probe, and a TVS diode at the oscilloscope input for a good measure.
Dmitriy L. Thanks for answering this question my friend. You are awesome 👍👍😁😁
@@DmitriyL_Arithmechanics thanks for the reference! Seems easy enough to make.
Grover, this is near. This is far. Near. Far. Lol. Nice video.
THAT WAS THE BEST , I HAVE A QUESTION WILL I BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ONE OF YOUR HOME MADE IGNITION PROBES ALSO AND CAN I USE AN INJECTOR SYNC WITH AN INCERLINDER PRESSURE TRANSDUCER TO CHECK TIMING AND THANKS SO MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY .
Ramon, hello it is always pleasure to watch your videos always learn new things great things comes from great man like you really enjoyed every minute of this video. cheeeeeeers
j georges thank you my friend. I am glad you enjoyed this video. Cheers 👍👍
that otc tool is made by farret . i have had that tool for over twenty years
Randy Gould you are right. I didn’t know that until I did some research my is OTC. Thank you. Cheers
@@kyhomegarage3430 It seems the OTC tool (or Pico Mixmaster) should not be too complex to make. These are going for $350 or higher. You think something like running each signal in parallel each with its own diode might be good enough for a DIY'er?
Louis Pasnik that could work but you can’t reverse your waveform for waste spark system.
@@kyhomegarage3430 Thanks for the response. For the waste spark systems, does the OTC tool simply invert the voltage of the opposite polarity waveform and combine it, thus allowing the scope to display the combined superimposed ignition and inverted waste spark (or inverted ignition and waste spark) pairs?
www.motor.com/magazinepdfs/071999_06.pdf
I'm guessing the OTC tool is not smart enough to simply ignore or filter the signal from the waste spark altogether and only send a signal from the firing partner to the scope. In reading from the link above, it seems as if superimposing the ignition + inverted waste spark doesn't really matter in analyzing the waveform patterns as I'm guessing each of the waveform pairs have similar patterns (albeit voltage absolute magnitudes are different) thus the combined signals should superimpose on each other nicely as long as one is inverted?
Louis Pasnik yes it does. If your signal is inverted all you need to do is plug your lead to another row on your tool and signal will be inverted. Thank you
Do you know the value (or could you measure) the capacitor in the Snap-On scope adapter?
Todd Erickson Sorry I don’t know. I will look into it. Thank you
Hello sir!congrats for your repair information and for your handmade tools ideas and tips sharing with us!I want to ask you about the cooper bar multi signals from the ignition coils in one channel can we do something similar and from the injectors signals? Multi signals injectors all in one channel?with a different way of course not with a cooper bar!best regards!!I look forward to your reply!!
George -Ribo- I don’t know. Magnetic field around injectors is much smaller than ignition coils. I will try it thank you 👍
@@kyhomegarage3430 thank you very much for your quick response!!!if we take for example in a 4 cylinder engine 4 wires and connect in to signal wire of injectors and the other side of this wire connect all together with a common wire and with an adapter connect to one pico lead we will see 4 signal together?and this is safe for pico?in my mind I have the 4 to 1 wire like this from awswave www.aeswave.com/uIsolate-Network-Isolator-p9669.html best regards!
George -Ribo- that will work only if test leads have diodes in it otherwise you will short all control wires into one wire. Hope this make sense
@@kyhomegarage3430 yes it is!!!thank you very much for your help!!I hope seen you make something like this!!!
Good job! What I don't understand why does so thick insulation need?
Attila Sipos you want to protect your scope in case of defective coil with crack insulation. Thank you
Way to go 👍
The main thing and the only important thing of this probe is oscilloscope PROTECTION that is between oscilloscope and the metal stick at the end. Yet, I do not see any discussion anywhere of this ONLY IMPORTANT thing: what is capacitor (if any), or what is the name of the VERY SPECIAL cable that is used between oscilloscope and the dumb metal stick at the end. What is the SMART part of this probe? I see no such discussion.
Its a stupid cable from stupid Snap on ignition tester with stupid capacitor built in to it protect stupid oscilloscope. Probably has some stupid name anyway which I don’t know. Thank you for watching.
@@kyhomegarage3430 It is NOT a matter of exchanging childish name calling. It is a matter of protecting EXPENSIVE oscilloscope from being bricked. Only cable design can protect it. Name calling, like children, does not help anything. I asked for serious information to protect my (and readers' scopes).
What II meant by "stupid" or "silly" (or any names I might used): the piece of metal at the end is not "smart" in a way it does not provide any protection from voltage spikes. Piece of metal bricks the oscilloscope. We need "smart" protection from cable design: capacitors and resistors are inside of the cable (usually). I might have woken up some incorrect emotions in you by using wrong wordings initially.
Удивительно.
Great idea, thanks for the video. Just wondering why you do not use any attenuator to protect the scope?
Mambre Khachatryan thank you I am glad you enjoyed this video. I don’t need to use attenuator because as you could see voltage input is less than 200 mv but I do use cable with capacitor in case of voltage spike from faulty ignition coil. Also my probes are very well insulated. I hope this answers your question. Thank you.
@@kyhomegarage3430 what size capacitor do you use in your cable? And do you just wire it across the signal wire and the ground wire?
@@alanw5879 I really don’t know but it’s built in Snap On cable that I use. I am really sorry but I can’t answer your question.
Good vid I enjoyed watching
Gary
Gary Bratton thank you my friend. Its good to hear from you. I hope you are doing better. Cheers
Great video, I was wondering if you tried your presser transducers with the new formula and how accurate they were
J.R. Robinson formula works great but aftermarket pressure transducer have some issues. I will make video soon. Cheers my friend 👍👍
I have issues with the transducers not showing 0 psi at the exhaust stroke so that I can accurately test back pressure. I am now looking into compound transducers
J.R. Robinson that is same problem I have. My was working fine for long time and now every time I use it part of my waveform will drop below zero line and I don’t know why. I just got fluke PV 350 works great. Will do video soon.👍👍
JUST WONDERING IS THAT RCA PLUG
hello. could I use insulating tape in between plasti dip layers for insulation. Thanks I'm in the process of making one. Thanks again
stephen marshall You can use whatever you have. More insulation is better. I used supply that I had and so far I am very satisfied. Works good.👍
stephen marshall this is copper I used
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@@kyhomegarage3430 thank you very much for replying and thank you for the video. keep doing them please
I WAS WONDERING IS THERE A ADAPTER FOR THE BLUE SNAP ON IGNITION PADDLE THE LONG ONE. TO CONVERT TO BANANA JACK
Thedons brewery not that I know. But you don’t want to use any adapter. This snap on ignition cable provides protection to scope in case of open plug or ignition coil.
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Chad Gardee Kentucky 😁😁
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Richard Gill cheers my friend 👍👍