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  • Head to ​www.squarespace.com/nostalgia... to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code NOSTALGIANERD.... You may have heard of Backmasking, or Backwards Masking. This is where messages are hidden within songs (usually on vinyl), which when reversed, will reveal themselves. Well, could the same occur for computer code? Computer games? Let's try loading some code backwards and see if anything reveals itself. Then maybe, try some more realistic ways of finding some hidden computer code, in a fashion similar to backmasking.
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  • @Nostalgianerd
    @Nostalgianerd  Před 3 lety +183

    I find this stuff fascinating; Chris Sievey was actually working on a Spectrum release for his next single, Red Indian, which never saw light of day. This was an upgraded version of the Camouflage experience, where you could actually experiment with the "light show" yourself. Check out this video where he's interviewed by Tony Fletcher about it: czcams.com/video/3pWj4ejQRco/video.html

  • @lztx
    @lztx Před 3 lety +640

    I remember an old joke: they say if you play a windows 95 CD backwards it'll pay satanic messages. That's nothing! If you play it forwards it'll install windows 95!

    • @penfold7800
      @penfold7800 Před 3 lety +20

      No, that would be Windows ME.

    • @lztx
      @lztx Před 3 lety +17

      @@penfold7800 depends how old you are! I had windows 95 corrupt a hard drive beyond recovery in my 386 so the first version wasn't perfect either. (It wasn't hardware issue, reformat and installed DR-DOS 7.02 with windows 3.11 and it was fine)

    • @shannonhill3356
      @shannonhill3356 Před 3 lety +10

      All hail Linux.

    • @lztx
      @lztx Před 3 lety +3

      @@shannonhill3356 this was before I discovered Linux, though tbf I mostly played games on that DOS machine

    • @itzmeggy0074
      @itzmeggy0074 Před 3 lety

      Pen Fold darn you beat me too it

  • @mikel6989
    @mikel6989 Před 3 lety +683

    I hate when i'm listening to a record then all of a sudden i become a disciple of the antichrist

    • @Nostalgianerd
      @Nostalgianerd  Před 3 lety +97

      It helps if you're already a disciple to be honest.

    • @ki5aok
      @ki5aok Před 3 lety +34

      But they make it so tempting: 6 weeks vacation, full medical and dental, lucrative stock options, and a corner office with air conditioning. :-)

    • @YourIdeologyIsDelusional
      @YourIdeologyIsDelusional Před 3 lety +32

      Today we have the SJWs, back then we had the Evangelicals and "Moral Majority" as it were.
      People need to stop giving ideological loonies power. Especially private power.

    • @sonotdown998
      @sonotdown998 Před 3 lety +8

      @Mike L Listening to Styx forward is bad enough.

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn Před 3 lety +1

      i worked too hard to be a mere underling damnit!

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl Před 3 lety +186

    Finnish band Tarot used backmasking on their 1986 album 'Spell of Iron'. On the song "Pharao" there's a message in finnish, that says "I knew you'd listen to this backwards you pervert" :D

    • @ewanmcnulty
      @ewanmcnulty Před 3 lety +10

      I don't have anything to add, just nice to see another Tarot fan around here :)

    • @sirrobertwalpole1754
      @sirrobertwalpole1754 Před 3 lety +1

      Pervert~

    • @Kalvinjj
      @Kalvinjj Před 3 lety +13

      "Arvasin että kuuntelet tätä takaperin perversi!"
      I just had to do it, I had to grab it and reverse in Audacity!

    • @StaticVapour590
      @StaticVapour590 Před 3 lety +3

      mm mm

  • @thdremily
    @thdremily Před 3 lety +147

    Rick rolling in 2020, feels refreshing I guess compared to getting ‘stick bugged’

    • @Sivanot
      @Sivanot Před 3 lety +8

      Hey, at least stick bugs are cute.

    • @starlight4649
      @starlight4649 Před 3 lety +2

      that one game of among us that ends with the imposter yelling "get stick bugged idiots" as you slam the airlock button.

    • @G-u-z-i-o
      @G-u-z-i-o Před 3 lety +2

      You forgot to add "lol" at the end of "stick bugged".

    • @trajectoryunown
      @trajectoryunown Před 3 lety +9

      @@Sivanot Implying that Rick Astley isn't kawaii as fuck.

    • @patrioticwhitemail9119
      @patrioticwhitemail9119 Před 3 lety +5

      Stick bug's meme had a life span as long as a regular bug. Rick Ashley is immortal.

  • @RandomRetr0
    @RandomRetr0 Před 3 lety +196

    Heads up, you’d turntable is likely not spinning at the correct RPM. A few off for audio isn’t really noticeable but for computer code it shifts the frequency enough to create an issue

    • @Nostalgianerd
      @Nostalgianerd  Před 3 lety +82

      It's most likely not spot on. Although it was loading some files. But combined with ingrained dirt, warping on the discs and other artifacts, I just didn't have time to run through all the motions.

    • @arachnophilia427
      @arachnophilia427 Před 3 lety +25

      wow/flutter probably matters too. i'd recommend finding someone with a technics 1200 or something else with very consistent speed.

    • @downthegardenpath
      @downthegardenpath Před 3 lety +4

      Nothing more than a guess but I'd bet RIAA EQ doesn't help

    • @arachnophilia427
      @arachnophilia427 Před 3 lety +6

      @@downthegardenpath i would have to assume they accounted for that, and in theory equalization cancels itself out perfectly.

    • @ArtturiSalmela
      @ArtturiSalmela Před 3 lety +2

      I wonder if you could record some code that would tell the exact rpm of a turntable in code encoded on the vinyl itself

  • @CricketEngland
    @CricketEngland Před 3 lety +33

    2:39 always reminds me of the time we were traveling home from school on the school bus and we were allowed to pass tapes to the driver to play and someone passed up the coach a C64 computer tape....

  • @SupaPhly0
    @SupaPhly0 Před 3 lety +565

    technology connections: Please don't call it a vinyl! >:(
    nostalgia nerd: ha ha, vynil go spin!

    • @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq-q
      @qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq-q Před 3 lety +28

      SupaPhly lmaoo was thinking this the whole time

    • @Nostalgianerd
      @Nostalgianerd  Před 3 lety +123

      VINYL FTW.

    • @jamesfcarter
      @jamesfcarter Před 3 lety +23

      @@Nostalgianerd What do you call a record that's not made of PVC... a Shellac?

    • @DukeDudeston
      @DukeDudeston Před 3 lety +4

      So glad I wasnt the only one who thought this. Lol

    • @Zhixalom
      @Zhixalom Před 3 lety +15

      ​@@jamesfcarter What's wrong with "LP" or simply just "record", like we used to. I bet the young pups will eventually learn to adapt. I think the biggest issue if we were able to go back in time, would really be that you wouldn't get what anyone was saying and they wouldn't understand you either, even though you would supposedly be speaking the same language.
      - anyway, I admit that I find myself calling it vinyl too.

  • @BradTheProducer
    @BradTheProducer Před 3 lety +17

    Information Society deserves to be on this list. They did multiple things with hidden data tracks, including starting an online scavenger hunt to piece together a file that decompresses to an extra song not available directly on the album.

  • @Lamhfada1337
    @Lamhfada1337 Před 3 lety +82

    When i was a kid, we found a copy of "Leonard Nimoy Sings." So of course we played it backwards. All 5 of us there clearly heard "Shatner loves Goats."

    • @Gianfranco_69
      @Gianfranco_69 Před 3 lety +5

      Shame you aint got now.. thats worth big bux

    • @kenlieck7756
      @kenlieck7756 Před rokem +1

      What slander! He loves *horses!*

  • @ParoxyDM
    @ParoxyDM Před 3 lety +92

    If this Spectrum code at the end is an ad for Square Space I'm going to be pissed, lol.

    • @isaace436
      @isaace436 Před 3 lety

      what was the program?

    • @JonAllenMichael
      @JonAllenMichael Před 3 lety

      @@isaace436 I'm still waiting as well....

    • @nyko4972
      @nyko4972 Před 3 lety +2

      @@JonAllenMichael from 30:23 to the end of the video is audio code.

    • @JonAllenMichael
      @JonAllenMichael Před 3 lety +2

      @@nyko4972 right, but what was the code?

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon Před 3 lety +114

    My favorite backmasking tape was something along the lines of "This record is reversible, but time is not" I remember finding it on a flashvideo website many eons ago...

    • @RickinBaltimore
      @RickinBaltimore Před 3 lety +7

      ELO I believe that was?

    • @anumeon
      @anumeon Před 3 lety +3

      @@RickinBaltimore may well have been. It was so many years ago now, back in the good ol' days of yore. :D

    • @M3G4UK
      @M3G4UK Před 3 lety +5

      That was an ELO track. Can't remember which album though! It then goes "turn back! Turn back!"

    • @Chrnan6710
      @Chrnan6710 Před 3 lety +11

      Another ELO track! Fire on High.

    • @kabelsalad8380
      @kabelsalad8380 Před 3 lety +8

      Another ELO track: Fire on High, from the album Face the Music. That was their first response to the incident mentioned in the video where they were accused of being satanists. If you listen to the whole message, it's a deliberately overblown and ominous instruction to stop wasting your limited time on Earth listening to records backwards.

  • @StevePond
    @StevePond Před 3 lety +174

    Re. The Inner City Unit NewAnatomy program, I wrote it.. you didn't look at the source code did you for the easter egg competition within and easter egg withing a... oh you know :) the program was cut directly to the lathe from a Spectrum. The version on the vinyl is the last version, the other version was one I sent to a stupid person who couldn't get the program to load from vinyl hense the filename and my bit of code to see if I'd filled the Spectrum up yet. I still have an emulated version running on my phone for those times when we do gigs today and people ask about it..
    If you look at the sleeve the data track is listed as "Hectic Electric" and the album liner notes say "for more information colour your screen spectrum" I claimed it as "Avant Garde electronic" on the publishing info for the tracks on the album in a desperate royalty grabbing move.. There was a sticker on early copies proclaiming "free spectrum program" but we removed it because people were getting shirty in record shops demanding their free cassette :)
    You didn't try "0" on the menu.. ;)
    Thanks for the fun review!
    Steve - ICU

    • @leap123_
      @leap123_ Před 3 lety +6

      the ends says obj

    • @merlin5476
      @merlin5476 Před 3 lety +4

      Me and a few friend were heavily into 48k Spectrums ( & I.C.U.) & actually got this to work back in the day. i would love to go back & check it out again. I also didnt know that you "Steve" wrote it. Well done old bean.Dingwalls were the best gigs. especially the ones with Bob Calvert. x

    • @stashyjon
      @stashyjon Před 3 lety +5

      Hi Steve, never knew that was your doing. Is there no limit to your talent and deviousness. Hope yer well and love to the missus.
      PS, are we gonna get a Krankschaft game on the next album?

    • @StevePond
      @StevePond Před 3 lety +7

      @@merlin5476 I can send you a tzx file that will run on an emulator if you want..

    • @penfold7800
      @penfold7800 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StevePond it would be a really nice gesture if you could leave a link to a clean mp3 of the original track. Personally, I dislike emulators. But I guess they're useful to get these nostalgic games in more peoples hands than actual machines got produced.x

  • @Charlesb88
    @Charlesb88 Před 3 lety +96

    That was a LLOR-KCIR ESREVER you did there.

    • @leap123_
      @leap123_ Před 3 lety +2

      Now let's GUBKCITS ESREVER

  • @sn4ns4
    @sn4ns4 Před 3 lety +72

    30:20 ;)
    10 PRINT "we're no strangers to love"
    20 FOR I=1 TO 1000: NEXT I
    30 PRINT "you know the rules and so do i"
    40 FOR I=1 TO 1000: NEXT I
    ...
    130 PRINT "never gonna let you down"
    ...
    250 GO TO 10
    ;)
    actually it's a moving lobster picture, flashing border and text
    I love lobsters, best of all, the crustaceans. I love lobsters THEY'RE OUR FRIENDS
    290 REM LobstaligaNerd 2

    • @hahasamian8010
      @hahasamian8010 Před 3 lety +3

      I love this

    • @fredg8328
      @fredg8328 Před 3 lety +4

      Probably an easter egg about "Rock Lobster"

    • @ricky2k3_
      @ricky2k3_ Před 3 lety

      How do I load this? I tried with Fuse but returns "B Integer Out Of Range, 175:2"

    • @sn4ns4
      @sn4ns4 Před 3 lety +4

      Ricardo Martinez
      I’ve paused the video then loaded audacity.
      Set input as direct audio out and pressed play on CZcams and record in audacity.
      That was how I extracted the audio track.
      Then I used fuse to load the audio track.

  • @ovalteen4404
    @ovalteen4404 Před 3 lety +6

    Nilbog is Goblin spelled backwards!
    My first encounter with code tracks was the last track on Information Society's second album. Decoding that modem conversation with a loudspeaker, phone, and modem was quite the challenge. Later a simple DSP program made it so much simpler.
    A later album included a treasure hunt to find a download of the hidden track, but by the time I even heard the album existed, the links you were supposed to follow were all dead.

  • @TheAnkMan
    @TheAnkMan Před 3 lety +19

    First time I noticed a hidden Easter Egg was around 2000. Nostalgia just kicked in for me. My theory is nostalgia kicks in when you turn 30 and look back to your teens and twens. I found a sampler covering songs from 1984. One of the songs was by the band Propaganda "Dr. Mabuse", prduced by Trevor Horn. I noticed a strange sounding part towards the climax. I dumped the song into Cool Edit 95 (that's already nostalgia by now :-) and reversed it. The song starts with "Why does it hurt when my heart misses the beat", sung by Claudia Brücken. Listening to the reversed played part it reveals "Warum schmerzt es, wenn mein Herz den Schlag verpasst", the literal translation of "Why does it hurt when my heart missed the beat" from the beginning of the song.
    czcams.com/video/bHKm4mLTLs8/video.html

  • @DJKC
    @DJKC Před 3 lety +21

    At last, someone covering the Thompson Twins Adventure. I remember having this, but not where I got it from. It was a nightmare to rip then as you'd expect. Too light on the stylus and it skated on the flexi, too heavy and the record would just not spin properly. Somehow I did eventually manage to get it loaded. Wasn't worth the hassle!!

  • @RMoribayashi
    @RMoribayashi Před 3 lety +7

    The easiest way to hide a message in an audio track is with Morse code. If it blends well with the music and locks with the beat it'll be noticed by the few listeners who know the code but ignored by nearly everyone else. These days you don't even need to know Morse code to get the hidden message, you can just decode it with an app on your phone.

    • @freeculture
      @freeculture Před 3 lety +1

      If you do it in higher frequencies us oldies with our burnt out ears from crt use won't hear it at all...

    • @RMoribayashi
      @RMoribayashi Před 3 lety +3

      @@freeculture You mean like those Musak systems that add a screeching tone above 18kHz to discourage teens from loitering around the more posh stores in a mall.

    • @ideitbawxproductions1880
      @ideitbawxproductions1880 Před rokem

      *YYZ by Rush intensifies*

  • @SeithonJetter
    @SeithonJetter Před 3 lety +3

    Tip for cleaning vinyl records. Get some wood glue and pour it over the audio areas. It won't stick to the vinyl but it will trap any dirt or other gubbins. So when you peel it off you get a perfectly clean album :)

  • @jsecret9459
    @jsecret9459 Před 3 lety +61

    Anyone else really satisfied with him unwrapping the cassette......oh memories!

    • @Kholaslittlespot1
      @Kholaslittlespot1 Před 3 lety

      MMm shiny shiny staticness

    • @MetalTrabant
      @MetalTrabant Před 3 lety +2

      I used to do it more carefully, with a sharp knife around the edges, and kept the wrap for a while, because they were nice :D
      I still open up my new music CD's and vinyls so carefully that I can keep them in the original shrinkwrap for added protection...

    • @dannydetonator
      @dannydetonator Před 2 lety

      @@MetalTrabant You need a shrink-wrap machine, but then the temptation to flog off the stuff as 'never opened' might get you..

  • @Renwoxing13
    @Renwoxing13 Před 3 lety +10

    Heartware is one of the coolest band names ever. And that cover of the electronic etched heart was wicked amazing!
    Very surprising it is from 1986, it seems so sleek and modern!

  • @eggmug562
    @eggmug562 Před 3 lety +27

    4:50 did they seriously name their band after that anime. I wonder what legal battles they had to deal with

    • @MightyEggroll
      @MightyEggroll Před 3 lety +3

      There was a band called Rival Schools, named after the Capcom game. They didnt get any lawsuits from the company

    • @astral2048
      @astral2048 Před 3 lety +1

      No they just called it "Obnoxious Bastards". There's no serious issue with that. Just a cool Japanese name.

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Před 3 lety

      But anime have soundtrack releases, so it's potentially in the same market. I wouldn't recommend it, even if time, place and popularity meaning they aren't likely to conflict in practice. What if they became really famous? They'd be open to legal trouble, and worse, people who weren't in the know would find out they're nerds!

  • @Charlesb88
    @Charlesb88 Před 3 lety +5

    A important tip with Flexidscs: On most record players you need to place some sort of weight on the center area of the disc such a coin to prevent the disc from slipping around on the platter (you may even want to tape the coin down). Also, Flexidiscs aren’t designed to last very long so it was common to copy contents to a cassette tape so you don’t wear down the Flexidisc so as to become unplayable.

  • @SRGIProductions
    @SRGIProductions Před 3 lety +78

    oremoR nohJ, em llik tsum uoy emag eht niw ot.

  • @mrdummy_nl
    @mrdummy_nl Před 3 lety +51

    "Urusei Yatsura" is not just coincidence. It seems the Scottish band members watched some Japanese anime and they fell in love with anime named "Urusei Yatsura".
    The Japanese manga exists already since 1978. It is possible when the members of the band want start together, they need a name for it. And i think one of the members suggest because many of then watched UY series together, they choose this for band name. Really strange way to choose name.
    There is nothing elsewhere, the name is not just fell out of the sky. It's already well known in Japan and under okatus.

    • @astral2048
      @astral2048 Před 3 lety +9

      Actually it kinda is. The band members probably thought a Japanese name would sound cool so they went with that. Urusee Yatsura literally means "Obnoxious Bastards", totally fitting the theme of a rogue-like band that were prevalent in the 80s.

    • @medes5597
      @medes5597 Před 3 lety +3

      @@astral2048 they were a 90s band part of the tail end of Britpop and using twee imagery. The name was more likely chosen ironically because they weren't that.

    • @souljastation5463
      @souljastation5463 Před 3 lety +8

      I actually remeber hearing an interview of them at the radio back then, of course their name is tied to the anime, it would be quite the coincidence if it were not. IIRC they came to know about the anime when they did a trip in Japan (but don't quote me on this).
      BTW, in my country (which is Italy) Urusey Yatsura is widely known, it was aired and re-run numerous times since the 80s.
      Down here they aired every relevant anime of the 70s and 80s.

    • @dhruel
      @dhruel Před 3 lety +5

      Odd. "Otaku" is actual Japanese (basically translates to "nerd"), whereas "okatu" seems to be a bastardization of "otaku" and is crammed into the Urban Dictionary and some social groups. I'm guessing someone must have trolled "okatu" into existence. Shame on them. :P

    • @CanuckGod
      @CanuckGod Před 3 lety +3

      @@dhruel That, or the OP just misspelled otaku.

  • @RJRC_105
    @RJRC_105 Před 3 lety +6

    Red Dwarf had that episode Backwards, and if you play the scene where Rimmer and Kryten are being fired, backwards, it reveals a hidden message slagging you off.

  • @RavenLuni
    @RavenLuni Před 3 lety +2

    Contrary to what you said in your video, it is indeed possible to create a spectrum loader that loads different code both forwards and backwards. The trick to doing so is designing a custom loader - you would still need the BASIC program at the end of the tape but using the absolute minimum timings, no pauses and using the old machine code REM statement trick could make it small enough to be nearly imperceivable, then the rest is all in the 'mixed' loader.

  • @sammymcfone8281
    @sammymcfone8281 Před 3 lety +31

    The Atari st final fight exe actually has a huge rant in it.
    I opened it in an ascii editor when I was a kid and was shocked.

    • @SylveonTrapito
      @SylveonTrapito Před 3 lety +2

      What was it? I need to know now!

    • @antster1983
      @antster1983 Před 3 lety +6

      @@SylveonTrapito It's in one of Larry Bundy's Fact Hunt videos.

    • @SylveonTrapito
      @SylveonTrapito Před 3 lety +6

      @@antster1983 oh you are right. I think it was a horrible mensage of a developer that hate the game.

    • @antster1983
      @antster1983 Před 3 lety +1

      Agustin Goicoechea Here’s the video: czcams.com/video/2ndNSRy04YI/video.html

    • @antster1983
      @antster1983 Před 3 lety +2

      Agustin Goicoechea No, wait, here’s the one! Richard Aplin on Final Fight. But you can still watch the other to see Aplin’s other ramblings...
      czcams.com/video/sKk36WKWGUs/video.html

  • @rootbrian4815
    @rootbrian4815 Před rokem +3

    There's been quite a few tracks I heard on the radio that clearly had something recorded backwards in it, so the odd chance they played it twice (community radio that is), I managed to grab and play it backwards. Turns out, it was far too hilarious. I forgot what it said, and don't even remember the title of the song either, much less the album or name of the group/artist.

    • @echelonrank3927
      @echelonrank3927 Před rokem

      it was likely the dont drink holy water from the toilet satanic message

  • @MontieMongoose
    @MontieMongoose Před 3 lety +23

    This game will not sell records. In fact it's on pretty shaky ground....

  • @livefreeprintguns
    @livefreeprintguns Před 3 lety +3

    One of my favorite Bill Hicks quotes: "Did you know that if you play records backwards........... you're an asshole?"

  • @welovemrp00
    @welovemrp00 Před 3 lety +5

    I thought for sure when I clicked on this video, that what was going to happen that some album had recorded what appears to be spectrum code on it, but nobody in the last 30 years could get it to load. And then it turned out that it was just recorded backwards, and that you'd be the first person to discover it.

  • @Dr.Quarex
    @Dr.Quarex Před 3 lety +10

    I cannot believe the Stranglers' phone is still ringing and you just ignored it

  • @eviebr83
    @eviebr83 Před 3 lety +12

    Somehow i reckon the end code is another Rick Roll...

  • @Morganstein-Railroad
    @Morganstein-Railroad Před rokem +2

    there is an album by Isao Tomita Called "The Bermuda Triangle" Which,accordi thelinr notes, has a coded message. I quote - "Each side of this record contains coded data in the form of certain sound effects. The message can be recovered if the electrical signal from the record is interfaced with the input of a micro Computer programmed to the TARBEL system". That's all they tell you. They don't specify what type of Micro Computer to use, but as the album was released in 1979, it can't be very advanced. as i've never heard of TARBEL, I have no idea whether it works , or what the coded message is.

  • @urinalcake9581
    @urinalcake9581 Před 3 lety +8

    Ahh man, Dave Greenfield...
    My Dad knew him. Lovely bloke, apparently, though I never met him myself. RIP Dave - you were one hell of a keyboard player.
    On a happier note: great video! I had no idea these existed.

  • @IBlameTheLag
    @IBlameTheLag Před 3 lety +46

    If you play any nickelback song backwards it still sounds like crap.

  • @shelby3822
    @shelby3822 Před 3 lety +9

    Fun fact: the beginning of Slayer's Hell Awaits has "join us...join us" hidden backwards

    • @NihilQuest
      @NihilQuest Před 3 lety

      @@nonyabidness8676 Well I'm sure it was just cool at the time. It's a line from Evil Dead

  • @hughjanus3941
    @hughjanus3941 Před 3 lety +6

    I tried to find out what the easter egg was, I downloaded the audio and converted it to .tzx so that it would work on one of the Sinclair emulators. Sadly, it didn't work. The only way it could work is to put the audio on a cassette and play it on real hardware. I really hope someone will do that and post their findings on the internet.

    • @DuckReconMajor
      @DuckReconMajor Před rokem +1

      i was hoping someone would be in this comments linking to a video of this program working but i guess not

    • @Cyber_Akuma
      @Cyber_Akuma Před rokem +2

      Well, better late than never I guess? Just saw this video and I noticed the Easter Egg at the end too and tried to see if I could get it to work. Though keep in mind that I have never used a computer old enough to load from audio cassettes in person before and I don't even have a Sinclair, I used an emulator for this. I have no idea if I even correctly converted the audio file to .tap (was not able to get a conversion to .txz or directly loading the .wav file itself to work) in full or if it's corrupted or has pieces missing since it's oddly silent when it looks like it should have sound. Regardless though, I did get it to load and run a program. I... have no idea what this is supposed to be though, I am new to this channel so is this a running gag or reference to something?
      czcams.com/video/iUaiSCPijls/video.html

  • @refractionpcsx2
    @refractionpcsx2 Před 3 lety +10

    Good day to you too Nostalgia Nerd! Also nice Red Dwarf reference ;)

  • @AntigonePoss
    @AntigonePoss Před 3 lety +17

    At 2:25 you said "a California bill" when the article you show on screen says "Arkansas State Senate".

  • @kenlieck7756
    @kenlieck7756 Před rokem +1

    Just a tangential addendum: Not vinyl *or* cassette, but I used to have a promotional floppy disc (the big, actually floppy kind) from the band Information Society containing a game. I get it mixed up with the Stranglers one, but I believe it was a text-only game, and… well, it’s been awhile so I can’t really recall any details. Good luck tracking this one down!

  • @rekall76
    @rekall76 Před 3 dny

    when i saw the track name "300bps 8,N,1" on Information Society's "Peace and Love, Inc." i called a friend and had him set up his modem to receive an incoming call... i put my phone's handset near my stereo's speaker and called him back when it was done... and was amazed to find out he saw quite a bit of text displayed on his screen... a wild on-tour story written by Kurt Harland Valaquen... we both felt quite accomplished having unearthed this hidden fanservice treasure long before it became public knowledge, and i posted the text on a few local dial-up bulletin boards... Kurt would later offer up a similar track on "Don't Be Afraid"... peak nerdery.

  • @rebmcr
    @rebmcr Před 3 lety +10

    You can easily create code that runs backwards by including a comment character mid-way along each line.
    10 PRINT "HELLO" # 01 OTOG 02
    20 GOTO 10 # "OLLEH" TNIRP 01

    • @simonj48
      @simonj48 Před 3 lety +2

      That's not how it works. You have to put the code lines in backwards
      20 GOTO 10
      10 PRINT "HELLO"

    • @Eliasdbr
      @Eliasdbr Před 3 lety +1

      And we didn't get to talk about the binary code of each ascii character being inverted

    • @rebmcr
      @rebmcr Před 3 lety +1

      @@Eliasdbr Yeah I didn't know enough about how the Spectrum does character encoding to try that!

    • @ZiggyTheHamster
      @ZiggyTheHamster Před 3 lety

      I'm sure it would be possible to write a program that does something backwards and forwards, but it's not this. The characters are encoded bit by bit, so it would need to make sense in that way. Just typing the same characters but in reverse wouldn't encode the characters to be read backwards (a 1 is a 1, and if played backwards is not 1).

  • @djozr
    @djozr Před 3 lety +5

    Urusei Yatsura has a song called "Hello Tiger" about the character Lum from the anime also called Urusei Yatsura.

  • @ChrisBenard
    @ChrisBenard Před 3 lety +2

    I really enjoyed all the hidden messages in the subtitles. Thank you.

  • @Wenlocktvdx
    @Wenlocktvdx Před 3 lety +1

    There was a game on the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer that displayed a rant against a popular tape copying program while being copied with it. The author was aware that this software displayed the data on the screen while reading the tape signal. That copying software, incidentally, would not copy itself except that the older version would copy the newer version.

  • @_yadokari
    @_yadokari Před 3 lety +3

    To stop flexi-discs being dragged by the needle we used to place a half-empty can (Quatro, Top Deck, or Tizer probably) on the label.

    • @baronmeduse
      @baronmeduse Před 3 lety

      There was a little dotted circle telling you to put a coin on it. It generally worked. Is half the label big enough to accommodate a can?

  • @reagandow850
    @reagandow850 Před 3 lety +17

    “Another one bites the dust” is great backwards. It clearly says “it’s fun to smoke marijuana”. I was going to bring up The ELO record but you beat me to it! ;) there are many many more.

    • @areyousureyouenteredyourna85
      @areyousureyouenteredyourna85 Před 3 lety +2

      I told my friends about how I played a recording of the mp3 backwards on my moms computer back in the early 2000s and found the marijuana message. They didn't believe me.

    • @MrAvenger711
      @MrAvenger711 Před 3 lety

      Well after reading your comment, I searched for it. I did found a video talking about it.
      But it's really subtle, was this ever confirmed ? or just audio hallucination :)

    • @meetoo594
      @meetoo594 Před 3 lety +3

      Im pretty sure thats just your brain creating that phrase due to you having being told it was there. Its just random noise and your brain is trying to make sense of it by searching your memory for possible matches. Same thing as seeing images in tv static or hearing voices in white noise.

    • @alexanderthomas2660
      @alexanderthomas2660 Před 3 lety +2

      I've just checked, and especially the part starting at 2:20 in the track does sound a lot like that phrase when reversed. The fact that the song contains reversed sounds of instruments, does make it clear that they had the means to reverse audio, and makes it somewhat plausible that they tried to craft a part of the song to produce a funny message when played backwards.

    • @SimonBuchanNz
      @SimonBuchanNz Před 3 lety +1

      I watched a video a long time ago about statistical coincidence and the dangers of human pattern matching (probably a Royal Institution?) The video talked about how if you have enough random data you will eventually find a match for any pattern, and if you are looking for any pattern you don't need much random data at all, and that humans are overly biased to finding patterns in general.
      This original example was a particularly strong demonstration of the psychological effect of looking for something specific, they said this part had a message backwards, played it forwards, then backwards without telling you what the message was, then told you the message. They did this for several songs, and it was striking how unintelligible the message was before being told what it was and how obvious it was after, for every one.

  • @iamvulgar8188
    @iamvulgar8188 Před 3 lety +2

    Wow! Super interesting to see what was probably the first lyric video in history.

  • @mandisaplaylist
    @mandisaplaylist Před rokem +1

    It is not just cracks, pops and hiss that make loading programs from vinyl difficult. There is also postprocessing circuitry that assumes the vinyl contains music and is not that helpful with computer binary data. And the second problem is that the vinyl doesn't reproduce the sharp edges of the digital signal very well, leading to the Spectrum having trouble with the signal. In the original ZX Spectrum manual you can even read that "using hi-fi equipment to load Spectrum programs isn't recommended and may lead to poor results".

  • @billybollockhead5628
    @billybollockhead5628 Před 3 lety +74

    I like how you pronounced “aural quest” as “oral quest”.. which sounds something totally different

    • @MarkTheMorose
      @MarkTheMorose Před 3 lety +8

      I thought the word was pronounced ow-rul, but apparently it isn't, it's pronounced the same as oral.

    • @z.s.n.
      @z.s.n. Před 3 lety +4

      @@MarkTheMorose its pronounced ah-rahl.

    • @astral2048
      @astral2048 Před 3 lety +21

      @@z.s.n. non-American accents exist bruh

    • @z.s.n.
      @z.s.n. Před 3 lety +1

      @@astral2048 no way, are you sure..?

    • @blacksunshine7485
      @blacksunshine7485 Před 3 lety

      Billy Bollockhead sounds like a sidekick to Frank Sidebottom

  • @yukimoe
    @yukimoe Před 3 lety +8

    Spoilers for those who can't figure it out:
    11:01 mmm good day to you sir
    28:52 Not now, isn't Paul Gary or isn't it?
    30:23 LobstalgiaNerd!

    • @joaopedro8942
      @joaopedro8942 Před 3 lety

      30:46 WHAT?
      31:06 MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS

    • @brooknet
      @brooknet Před 3 lety +1

      28:52 is a Red Dwarf quote, from the episode 'Backwards'. "Nodnol? It's in Bulgaria, isn't it?"

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela Před 3 lety +2

    Superb stuff, and bonus points for all the classic old audio gear. Also, that wooden TV on the Old Grey Whistle Test is fantastic.

  • @four_makers
    @four_makers Před 3 lety +2

    I can't find any reference to it online, but I recall reading (maybe in JimBob's first autobiography) that the intro to 'A Perfect Day to Drop the Bomb' is actually the albums' entire Drum Machine program - which in the late 80s used a tape instead of floppy. I'm not 100% sure on that, but it's defintely never been succesfully loaded into any hardware since release.

  • @mawamatakama5150
    @mawamatakama5150 Před 3 lety +4

    @3:26 DANG YOU NOSTALGIA NERD!
    DAAAANG YOU!
    * Waves fist at Nostalgia Nerd *
    You did it again, but there will be NO THIRD TIME!

  • @UpLateGeek
    @UpLateGeek Před 3 lety +15

    I'm dying to know whether you ended up getting your OK Computer vinyls in the end?

    • @davidellis4031
      @davidellis4031 Před 3 lety +11

      I can say from personal experience that the records were packaged separately to the box, which most of the retail staff didn't know, resulting in people going home and opening a shiny presentation box with no vinyl anywhere to be seen. Took me two visits back to HMV to sort it out and get both the box and clean records.

    • @ZiggyTheHamster
      @ZiggyTheHamster Před 3 lety

      @@davidellis4031 this is weird, I have no idea why they'd do that

  • @MechaDragonX
    @MechaDragonX Před 3 lety +2

    The band is named after the 80's anime and manga "Urusei Yatsura" whose author, Rumiko Takahashi, also wrote "Ranma 1/2" and "Inuyasha".

  • @stevef6392
    @stevef6392 Před 3 lety +1

    That vinyl is the only format that can't reliably load those old programs absolutely pleases me. Man, where are those vinyl snobs now?

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před rokem

      It's probably the record player, not the record. If it could be recorded on cassette tape as audio, there's no reason a record couldn't handle it. It just doesn't make sense.
      IIRC reel-to-reel tape (at least at 15ips) is superior to vinyl; I'm almost positive. The dynamic range is *definitely* wider. There are physical limitations to vinyl as a medium that tape doesn't suffer from.
      The notion that vinyl is inherently superior to CD is absurd, and anyone who asserts that without other qualifying statements simply has no idea what they're talking about.

    • @bsadewitz
      @bsadewitz Před rokem

      Professionals sometimes even used (and some still use) 30ips, as the signal-to-noise ratio is higher. However, 15ips could have improved low-frequency response compared to 30 on 1/4" tape. 30ips on 1/2" tape is even better than that (think of the amount of tape involved here lol). I don't know if commercial reel-to-reel releases were available in even 15ips, though; I think they were typically 7.5ips on 1/4in tape. All that was squarely before my time (and I'm 42 😂).
      There's nothing wrong with enjoying vinyl records as a hobby, of course, but any superiority over CDs was generally due to more care being taken during recording and mastering.

  • @anumeon
    @anumeon Před 3 lety +6

    Not quite Zork levels of humour in the deaths in that "adventure" game was it? :D

  • @Richie016
    @Richie016 Před 3 lety +3

    Spectacular video. Nostalgic PC hardware

  • @Ayelmar
    @Ayelmar Před rokem +1

    I was about to mention that, though it's a bit outside the ambit of this particular video, in 1994, Mike Oldfield released "The Songs of Distant Earth" (with help from Arthur C. Clarke) drawing inspiration from Clarke's novel of the same title, which included additional content for Apple Macintosh computers of that era. Unfortunately, though I have the CD (now in storage a couple states away), I've never been able to check out the extra content, having never owned a (working) Mac of that particular vintage....

  • @ideitbawxproductions1880

    Glad you mentioned the CD extras at the end. This was a wild video, seeing these bonus programs on tape, and even vinyl! Definitely a precursor to those CD-ROM extras like Primus's Tales From The Punchbowl, Incubus's S.C.I.E.N.C.E., or Deftones's White Pony.
    Also, that sucks about your Radiohead boxset. How did they manage to ship that without the vinyl? 🤦

  • @karbinunit
    @karbinunit Před 3 lety +4

    Don't call me Shirley....... what you going to do about the 3 missing records......>???

  • @ZipplyZane
    @ZipplyZane Před 3 lety +4

    With the original title, I was expecting that you'd have found an example that only worked if you reversed the tape (or record).

  • @tomenza
    @tomenza Před 3 lety

    writing code that is functional both backward and forward has been a pursuit of mine for many years

  • @Gingerkitteh
    @Gingerkitteh Před 3 lety

    I'm always fascinated by hidden gems like these. I never knew you could encode computer programs in purely audio form, and especially not on vinyl!

  • @londongaz2
    @londongaz2 Před 3 lety +3

    Oh man. Hidden code in the video about hidden code.... that is so meta!

    • @petertr2000
      @petertr2000 Před 3 lety +1

      Surely someone is going to load it? I bet its Rick again

  • @Angellmbrr
    @Angellmbrr Před 3 lety +3

    OMG!!! I still have that CD album from Urusei Yatsura!!! And I don't have any CD player anymore! 😄😄😄

  • @kFY514
    @kFY514 Před 3 lety +2

    When you mused about the (im)possibility of having software that could load both forward and backward, I thought that you could probably just put another program recorded backwards after a full program recorded normally. It would be cool if that could be something along the lines of the famous Karateka easter egg, where the unlabeled side of the disk had the game rendered upside down recorded on it.

  • @jasonc4643
    @jasonc4643 Před 3 lety

    One of my favourite videos of yours, bravo squire!

  • @sjdpfisvrj
    @sjdpfisvrj Před 3 lety +9

    You can tell somebody if they've had a migraine by this analogy. That is EXACTLY what a visual migraine looks like.

  • @Popclone
    @Popclone Před 3 lety +3

    Got to say bro,m: the British. Lol
    Watching the Show “TimeLine” where the last time they discovered a Dinosaur Turd, bro it was 5 miles underground, they had to use the latest escalator technology to uncover it :) then they just cover it back...and moved on with life :)
    I’m joking ya know :)
    The End : jokes aside, love your channel, rare stuff.
    Take this into account: you should do an episode with “Kim Justice” you guys have so much in common, I would love go see an episode you guys talking / debating the past, especially in British Land 80’s lol

  • @FozzyBBear
    @FozzyBBear Před 3 lety +1

    Backmasking is most well known in vinyl, but the only time I've heard it for real, was on cassette. Back in the 90s I knew this guy had an old Fisher Price "baby's first cassette player" thing that had a reverse play button. The only tape we could find backmasking on was from the Christian rock band Petra. It was a warbling, high-pitched, male voice, clearly saying "Oh Satan, you are the holiest, we worship you." This wasn't like one of those Beatles records - if you played the tape forward you couldn't tell there was anything going on.

  • @MadTheDJ
    @MadTheDJ Před 3 lety

    Not a computer program, but something some artists did on vinyl was to put a pair of parallel grooves on one side of the record. Monty Python did this and didn't tell anyone, just to mess with listeners. Their joke being that you'd listen to Side 2, enjoy it, and at some point listen to it later and perhaps end up listening to a completely different version of Side 2 and be like, "Huh? That's not what I was listening to before!"
    Obviously this gag could only work on a record and not a cassette or CD.
    Rush did this with a promo 7" single titled "Rush 'N' Roulette," where you drop the needle and randomly get one of several tracks.
    Bands also liked to put stuff in the run-out groove of the record so that if you didn't have an auto-return feature on the arm, the needle would stay in the groove as it went in a loop over and over until you manually stopped it.

  • @charlescrocco7896
    @charlescrocco7896 Před 3 lety +4

    3:30. My first time seeing this from you, and your work is pure artistic mastery.

  • @wcarver2150
    @wcarver2150 Před 3 lety +3

    10:50 Subtitle jokes. Yes please!

  • @eastbeast1379
    @eastbeast1379 Před 3 lety +1

    That's interesting video about tape recorders for a PC based console I wouldn't know much about. Honestly, I had no idea it was going be about the ZX Spectrum as I was expecting loading up video games backwards like from the last level or somewhat corrupted loading. Interesting that musicians use to make a small game or have their music on a tape or vinyl before having their music featured in video games like in Burnout, WWE or Forza.

  • @deevus
    @deevus Před 3 lety +1

    If you wanted binary data that could be different forwards and backwards, use a data type where the header contains start address and data length. You would then have a header at the start and the end of the binary segment, with 2 sets of data in the middle. I haven't dug any deeper than this but data types like that do exist.

  • @honguyenminh
    @honguyenminh Před 3 lety +7

    "Help I'm trapped in CZcams"
    *intensifies*

    • @yetinother
      @yetinother Před 3 lety

      Nguyên Minh Hồ - I saw that too in the closed captions and laughed, then started making plans to get him out of the you tubes. May have to get the Mario Bros. involved.

  • @FSM_Reviews
    @FSM_Reviews Před 3 lety +4

    Ah, you'd need a 4 track tape player to get reversed audio.

  • @cornchipz
    @cornchipz Před 3 lety +1

    I wrote a paper on this subject for school once! Awesome!

  • @theannoyedmrfloyd3998
    @theannoyedmrfloyd3998 Před 3 lety +1

    Oo roo say yaht soo ruh
    Urusei Yatsura is a manga and anime series by Takahashi Rumiko. It's her first big hit from the early 1980s. Viz is currently publishing the manga in omnibus format and finally to completion.
    The title means loosely translated "Those Obnoxious Aliens." This is where tiger striped bikini clad Lum-chan comes from.

  • @hellomynameisrodney
    @hellomynameisrodney Před 3 lety +3

    "Mind your own business" 😄

  • @XantroyX
    @XantroyX Před 3 lety +8

    Have you ever heard Michael Jackson's "Earthsong" backwards???
    It's on CZcams. Check it out.

    • @nettack
      @nettack Před 3 lety

      Would it become a good song?

  • @me0262
    @me0262 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice Information Society also has something like this on their album "Peace and Love, Inc", it's more that you have to run it through a modem in order to see it.

    • @jerrybradley3792
      @jerrybradley3792 Před 3 lety

      I remember spending many hours trying to get my mac to read that track.. playing it on my discman and holding the headphones to the handset of the phone so the modem would hear the tones, etc. I don't think I ever got it to work perfectly, but I do recall being able to read a portion of the text file.

  • @k001daddy
    @k001daddy Před 3 lety +1

    The album "Peace & Love, Inc" by Information Society in the last track named "300bps n, 8, 1 (terminal mode or ascii download)" contained a text message you could read by connecting your hi-fi to your modem. The message talked about an eventfull night on tour for the band.
    Track: czcams.com/video/fcLBGadsu3s/video.html
    Text: www.textfiles.com/humor/is_story.txt

  • @shanecorning5222
    @shanecorning5222 Před 3 lety +3

    man WHY you got to do stuff so new? .... SHOW us an 8-Track with program on it for UNIX / IBM ????? ... Ma Bell ? .... :-D

  • @chadwhic
    @chadwhic Před rokem

    I just want to take a second and let you know how much I appreciate your closed caption humor.

  • @alexseekingtheKingdom
    @alexseekingtheKingdom Před 3 lety

    You're always killin it man

  • @stevenb427
    @stevenb427 Před 3 lety +2

    Easiest the best vid I've watched from Nostalgia Nerd. Great stuff! Thank you 🤖

  • @kennethbillings614
    @kennethbillings614 Před 3 lety +1

    God that loading sound brings back memory’s.

  • @cheaterman49
    @cheaterman49 Před 3 lety +2

    21:10 I kinda wish you showed some of your progress after looking at a walkthrough? This game intrigues me :-)
    EDIT: Oh you linked working images in the description, I guess I can just use those if I'm curious enough! Thanks :-)

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo Před 3 lety +1

    I know my inner nerd would have loved to have these albums at home as a kid.
    During the 2000's some CD albums and samplers here in Germany did similar things.
    Like I remember when I put Mama's CD of Garret Gates' Anyone of Us in the computer I could actually watch the music video of the second or third song as QuickTime video.
    I thought this was amazing back then and still is.

  • @timothyneiswander3151
    @timothyneiswander3151 Před 3 lety +2

    I didn't think playing the code in reverse would do anything. What I did think was that you found backmasked code that when reversed would do something.

  • @g0mtnlee
    @g0mtnlee Před 3 lety +1

    Freaked out by the subtitles. Was not ready for that. Well played...

  • @inphanta
    @inphanta Před 3 lety

    This video deserves an instant like simply because of the mention of Urusei Yatsura. One of my favourite bands of the era. Thank you, indeed. 😊 ❤️

  • @ratykat
    @ratykat Před 3 lety

    I wasn't expecting to see the town where I used to live (Cannock) in one of your videos!

  • @PXKMProductionsGaming
    @PXKMProductionsGaming Před 3 lety +1

    Glad you talked about Aural Sculpture/Quest! It was a delight to hear the intro track by Greenfield. RIP.
    Despite how bad you said it was, I still wanna check it out. It's a cool enough album to warrant owning twice, if nothing else.