The Battle of Lewes 1264 AD
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Simon de Montfort: "It's over Henry, I have the high ground!"
Henry: "You underestimate my numbers!"
Anakin: "You underestimate my power!"
Darth Henry: Nnnyyyaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!
(whoooshh!)
Darth Henry: Ahhrghhhhhh....
Simon-Wan Kenobi: You were supposed to destroy the french, not join them!
Darth Henry: I HATE YOUU!!!!
@@Potoum Congratulations on seeing the reference....
At yes soviet rush tactics
I disagree with the accuracy and so does Osprey publishing.
- Dictatorial King.
- Angering landowners with heavy handed assertion of royal authority.
- Broke because of pointless overseas campaigns with little material value.
This guy's literally me on CKII
Eh... pointless is arguable. If everything worked out (ambitious thinking, yes) he would've got Sicily. That's not nothing.
@@HeyImLucious He could have invested the money better
So relatable.
This video misrepresents his rule. He did very little that would justify a constitutional reform such as the Provisions of Oxford (the Sicilian business and the money put forth for the Crusades never bankrupted the country, not sure how he concluded that). The magnates wanted more power and by that time Henry III could barely move without their consent. That lack of movement for a king began after the Magna Carta and would continue.
@@HeyImLucious To be fair Sicily is so far from England it would be extremely hard to control. It was nothing but dream ambition. His father wasnt able to hold France which is close to England so I have no idea what make Henry think he will be able to hold Sicily. I think that it would be logistical nightmare for English Monarch being able to use his authority here yet alone do something militarily good if rebellion broke out there.
I'm sensing a severe pattern in your videos...
"They did not properly scout the area..."
"They did not set up sentries..."
Man-o-man, when I get myself a 13th century army that's gonna be about the only thing I do with them...
As Sun Tzu wrote "Know your enemy and your self and you will not need to fear a 100 battles. Know only yourself or your enemy and you can only be safe for half the battles. Know neither yourself nor your enemy and you are certainly in danger"
It feels like people tend to lose battles if they're unprepared
It works the same in strategy games. You need to see what pieces are on the board, and where, in order to assess what to do. If you dont have intel, then you're fucked.
"Ambitious yet arrogant" is also some kind of pattern.
Play total war the tactics from here work on game... i copied hannibals tactic of light mobile less experienced troops in middle to backpedal and better trained heavier troops along sides. I copied battle of carne over and over....also learned to put weak low skill troops against a river or wall so they cant break, they either fight or die running not a option.
"An ambitious but arrogant king.." Oh, so he's gonna lose this battle isn't he?
Who Boris?
Aye.
Another running theme seems to be "piss off your vassals, then ask foreigners to help suppress them."
A leader makes a the difference... especially for those that followed Spartacus in his last battle.
I think Richard the lionheart was also ambitious and bit arrogant but he won his battles
@@Shubham-vr5ye Yeah but It's about how the narrator frames those traits. In Richard's case, they'd probably say, idonno, "ambitious, brave but impulsive". Vs in this case the "ambitious but arrogant" immediately sets off bells that this is going to be a comeuppance story about the arrogant king losing a battle cause bad character traits.
It feels like the cavalry getting too hot headed and leaving the rest of the army to fight while they ride down routing troops is the biggest reason a lot of these battles are lost. Imagine if Edward came back while they were engaged and hit them in the back or side.
Builty Gishop or too confident for that matter
Well but chasing the enemy down also prevents regrouping of already broken units. So it's not just an hot headed chase.(I'm not saying its fully reasonable.)
That's exactly what would've happened if Henry hadn't gotten himself captured
@@gelibolu1976 even if the guys they routed and chased had come back, the cavalry would have returned to the battle sooner and likely ended it with hitting the enemy army in the back.
Cavalry ruined battle example number 213124
I’ve learned more about history from Baz Battles, History Marche, and Kings and Generals than I did throughout my entire schooling. These videos are excellent.
same
They are, but if u learned more here then u weren't listening or u lacked initiative. These videos are fun n great but they are short so they don't paint a full picture
I learned more through those 3 and Epic History TV. Kings and Generals has a few small innacuracies but overall picture and story is reliable
Your schooling must have really sucked then, at least history-wise. I have also learned a lot here about individual battles, campaigns and commanders that I would otherwise know little or nothing about. But to compare that to the entire history part of my schooling, spanning basically every major aspect from stone age to cold war? Heh, sorry, but these videos, as excellent as they are in their own niche, don't even begin to scratch the surface. For one, they are essentially only about wars and the military, which is but one thin slice of human history.
@@Stripedbottom its just the propaganda version that is covered. The story that is convenient to your particular country that gets told in schools
Edward Longshanks: I'm gonna to do what's called a pro gamer move
The OG Leroy
Edwaaaaaarddddd Loooooongggggshaaaaaanksss!
@@SketchyBack Henry III: Oh my god he just ran in =_=
LOL! You guys are great!
@@SketchyBack Made my day XD
I live in Lewes. It’s a fairly unknown battle but is pretty major. Thanks so much for covering it 👍
really,? i thought brits were military historical' nerds !because lot of british historical tv shows are usually very good and abundants !
Live in LEWES too
@@DidierDidier-kc4nm nah, I live in the midlands and grew up in Scotland. I've had to educate midlanders on the battle of bosworth, the importance of Warwick the kingmaker, Evesham, the demontforts, hell even about why Watling Street is so important to British history. You tend to forget what is on your doorstep.
Do you guys see the reenactment there? If so... I'll catch you there.
I just finished reading Sharon Kay Penman's Welsh princes trilogy and this battle was covered in the second book, Falls the Shadow. How fascinating, being able to see it broken down like this.
That downhill charge must've pushed some men rolling down the hill
Or maybe the rebel front line soldiers simply threw themselves and rolled down the hill like a bowling ball and knocked down the kings army.That would be a sight to see.
@@Semperidem94 that would be hilarious and epic at the same time
Shades of Big Round Top.
Undoubtedly. I've been to the battleground. Offham hill is very high & very steep.
@@runlarryrun77 the charge is indeed an avalanche
The Old French nobles were basically mad at the new French nobles
Frenchmen being angry over other frenchmen. Never heard that one before.
@An Average Guy yellow jacket riots are just tho
@An Average Guy nice stereotype, so with your logic all englishmen have disgustingass teeth. but i dont believe in stereotype, you're just an asshole living in the past. Really sad lmao.
@@zomkino Don t be too salty Mate but @Anaverage guy is quite right ! i know it because i m frog
@@DidierDidier-kc4nm "im frog" ? nice way of shaming your entire country.
The power of the highground. A classic!
You underestimate my power
Tell that to Napoleon
Obi Wan would be proud.
THIS IS SO COOL, I live here and never thought you would make this! Generally quite well done, only missing a few small details. Love this channel
I love BB for not only giving the description of course of the battle, but also and foremost the circumstances of conflict, great job!
I cannot say how much I love these videos. Didn’t know of this battle, didn’t know of the fascinating backstory. It’s almost cliched with the young Calvary officer calling for the charge early in the battle. While outnumbered holding the high ground and choosing the time and place to battle is as old as time itself. Too bad Henry or his advisers had never read Sun Tzu. You could make a video a week and I would still want more, I need to learn how to use patreon and help fund these CZcams channels that provide such wonderful content be able to keep producing great material.
Wow Henry's son Edward pulled a stupid LEROYYYYY JENKINS and completely threw the battle.
Lerooooyyyyyyy Longshanks!
Or knew his dad was an idiot and legged it to come back to a peace treaty.
At least he had chicken.
His father commit the entire infantry to an UPHILL CHARGE WITHOUT CAVALRY SUPPORT, that's what threw the battle. You can't blame Edward for his father's stupidity
Had he come back sooner he could have cleaned up the rest of the enemy army by himself charging down hill this time lol
I want a compilation by you saying only THE BATTLE IS ABOUT TO BEGIN
I want those sweet "It is year..."
@@xtremebanana1998 "it's summer"
@@xtremebanana1998 HAHAHAHAH also that
@@vectrom21 HAHAHA it's late midnight
Its spring
There are many great battles and History channels in CZcams, Questions d'histoire, Kings and Generals, Epic History TV, HistoryMarche, NotaBene, Indy Neidel channels and many more, but Baz Battle still outclass them all. Baz Battle is pure jewellery but I salute all those great channels, it is a pleasure to see new stuff from any of them! Fantastic job!
These Kings should have practiced their tactics playing Total War: Medieval 2. Probably would've had more success.
That's what I do😂😂😂.
Do you like cavalry charge?
@@magnusthelame3608 "Once more into the breach, dear friends, once more. Or close the wall up with our English dead!" -Henry V
😁👍✌️
If he played medieval 2 his son would have been able to defeat the entire army with just his knights
This war is the centrepiece of the 'Britannia Campaign' from Medieval II funnily enough.
Excellent! We had captured the enemy King!
We are blessed!
Give the dog some wine, let him watch as we defeat the rest of his army
For a moment I read "The Battle of Lewds", thought it was a Gigguk video.
I noticed a bulge in your formation UWU
A man of culture
i wanted to upvote, but 69 likes man... must preserve
@@thirdtrysacharm6177 ah yes, the bulge
"It's over Henry ! I have the high ground !"
You underestimate my power!
Henry: You underestimate my Power....
Barons: Dont try it!!
Thank you for this video dude, I live 20 minutes from Lewes and Battle/Hastings in Eastbourne, always nice to learn about my local history. 🙏👍 ty
Your videos are not short. Length is alright. But they're so entertaining and captivating that time seems to fly when I watch them!
I've lived in Lewes all my life and this was the most entertaining way I've learned about the battle!
Fantastic video. I live 5 minutes away from Lewes so it took me by surprise seeing the town's name in a CZcams video with over 100k views. Keep up the fantastic work!
At around the 3:08 mark you show a picture of the Coronation Chair in reference to mid-century events. However that chair wasn't made until the end of the century. I know it is nitpicky, but I bring it up because the only reason I know this is that another of your videos about Edward inspired me to read more about him. This is one of my favorite CZcams channels, please keep up the great work.
Could you please do a video on the invasion on The Netherlands that ended the golden age of The Netherlands? It is known as the ''1672 Disaster Year''
Dutch people I know you are here please like this so our teacher can see this comment.
Man, these make my day. Thank you.
Awesome video! Thanks for showing it!
A great episode, thank you!
The victorious cavalery chasing after the beaten foe instead of turning around and hitting the enemy from behind has to one of the all-time classics in battle history.
thought this said battle of lowes and i was expecting a fistfight in a home improvement store
Love your work guys!
*Troops interrupting the Kings breakfast, "Good Morning your Highness, we've come for your head".*
Another great vid, in animations as well as the voice-over. Love it. Keep up the good work!
Simon de Montfort's father, also named as such, was a military general during the crusades against the Albigeois, a different kind of christians ruling the Southwestern part of France (around Toulouse). He managed to beat them and burn them at the stake. He then became earl of Leicester when his uncle died, but the title was given to a more "english" noble by King John. His son then took it back.
His father was also struck on the skull and killed by a mangolet being operated by cathar women during the siege of Toulouse, at which point Raymond the 7th went on a campaign to retake Languedoc from the crusaders, before the new french king Louis the Lion invaded and the Languedoc nobility cowed out and decided to capitulate to him
This feels like one stage down from a civil war in England that Ive never heard about. Amazing what you can always learn
Best Battle History Channel. This is saving the day❤️
Thanks for the Weapons Doc information, will watch it!
This was just purely amazing. Against all odds.
PLEASE DO THE BATTLE OF MIDWAY. It's one of the most significant battles in history.
At least you found a sponsor that isn't a predatory mobile game
Wow I live here! I’ve known the battle for a while but never seen it visually. Awesome!
Nobody knows where it took place.
Possibly to the northeast of Lamport off towards Offham and West Chiltington. where the biggest hill is that faces south would be a good place.
This gets the blood flowing
These battles are so unpredictable. It feels like luck was important in the past.
I love your videos I think they’re really interesting keep up the good work!
Battle of Evesham next?
As always great episode
Simon: "It's over Henry! I have the high gro-"
Edward: No
Love these videos Ty 👍
Our founding fathers wouldn't have had their ideas of a representative congress without this series of events. History still matters.
Fascinating. Simply fascinating. Another pivotal battle in human history.
pffft. that battle is notging to human history. only for the brits...
@@doomerboomer9402 Do you understand the impact of these battles and how the outcome affects the future? And British history IS human history. All history is.
there are thousands of battles like this one. you overestimate its importance. also given that the actual result of the war itself was the opposite of what that battle achieved
@@doomerboomer9402 I think you underestimate it. Battles like this highlight the importance of strategy and tactics and how they can influence future battles and wars. Not to mention the social-political effects the results of a battle can have.
" Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."
there are hundreds of battles more "strategic" than this one. this was just some anglo/norman brawl in a tiny town somewhere in Britain. you just cant compare this battle with Agincourt. Crecy. Catalaunic Fields battle. Dara. etc etc. you just cant. i liked it tough im not saying it sucks. but lets be real mate
I've been waiting for a new video :)
Ooh, does this mean you're going to cover the Evesham campaign? The Harper Encyclopedia of Military History describes it as the most brilliant campaign of the Middle Ages.
Interesting, I've never even heard of that one.
damn that sounds interesting..
Knowing this channel, expect to wait a few years to see it concluded.
Compare that to Kings and Generals for instance.
@@ChrisDynamo Oh, with Kings and General you also have to wait years. But the time will pass faster, because they handle a dozen series simultaneously.
The Caboose at the End of the Train I’m surprised, the Battle of Evesham was the battle that ended the Barional rebellion and was the funeral nell for Simon (I’m a historical reenactor who participates in both the battles of Lewes and Evesham)
I have a math exam tomorrow morning and here I am revising for history
Every time I see a new Baz Battles video i'm like: "Oh yeah baby!"
I don't much about this part of history but as soon as you mentioned Edward, I think we know how well he deals with rebellions..
And here we go
Oh, I love this, although it makes me sad because thinking of this battle is impossible without also thinking of Evesham. Simon de Montfort is one of my favorite historical figures of all time.
As always your videos of are an excellent quality
Crazy battle
At Last! Waiting for so long for this!!!!!
Thanks for updating the main playlist what's next for this channel?
Lewes is a lovely little town, well worth a visit
A bit brief. Missed out the good bits.
Like Cornwall being captured at the Windmill. And the defense of the city itself.
As well as the king holling himself up in the priory while negotiating a treaty.
Then refusing to surrender to Simon, instead to De Clare.
I'm currently gearing up for this battle. Cant wait to get stuck in.
While Edward certainly didn't help by charging so quickly, Henry definitely didn't need to follow suite and run his footmen uphill into the enemy. After Edward's charge Henry had a large advantage, and since time was on his side -- there was only so much time until Edward returned from the charge and since Henry would have only bolstered his forces as time went on such a huge hit to the numbers of Simon's retinue would have been crippling for the rest of the war which would force Simon to either attack downhill and into a much larger force or retreat which would put him at a major disadvantage throughout the rest of the war. Henry's war should have been won with Edward's charge, and though with Henry's subsequent attack it was a poor decision if Henry had held off on the advance and forced the enemy to move off of the hillside to fight on equal ground or retreat in fear of Edward's return the war should have been all but over.
I do agree that Edward should have, after breaking the flank, regrouped with his father much quicker -- but his father's actions in the battle were much more damning to his efforts than his son's charge.
stupid a** s*** charged uphill. ancient warfare 101 class missed
I love theses videos
My family lives in Lewes. I've been to the town a few times, and its amazing!
thanks!
Documentarians should start following the lead of creators like this. Documentaries are manipulative persuasive pieces. Most are therefore worse than ignorance. Baz and similar youtubers do not set out to persuade but to convey information as objectively as possible within their time limits. If curiosity stream was full of content like this, I might actually subscribe.
Used to live and work there and in that same area battle was fought , would have been some uphill slog , and longshanks really screwed up , Simon must have marched along the downs to take that position , and it's a surprise there was none of Edwards men on high ground as you can see for miles from up there ,
They used to have the 5th November bonfire there where effigies of pope were burned ( just a side note . The area also used to be a horse racing track , if your map is correct
Great Video. Though I need to watch these in order. I’m all over the place with this series.
So, one battle and the a descendant of the infamous counts de Montfort and what does he do as a result of one battle?
He captured the king of England.
He defeated an army of 10 thousand (having only 5).
He captured Prince Edward (it is strange that he surrendered without a fight, but oh well).
He also grabbed uncle, who, for a moment, was ALMOST the Holy Roman Emperor (but he turned out to be so lazy and stupid that he decided not to go into the jungle of German politics at all, which is why the German princes and Przemysl Ottokar (hello to the videos about Kressenbrunn and Marchfield ) restore their order in the state, seizing the crown lands and other property).
In short, Simon de Montfort is cool. Really cool!
Then Edward escaped captivity, gathered an army, and beat Simon in the battle of Evesham where he had a hit squad of knights locate Simon during the fighting and brutally murder him
Love hearing baz read me an ad knowing he’s getting paid
Simon de Montfort: Its over Hernry III., I have the HIGH GROUND!
Henry III.: You underestimate the size of my army!
Simon de Montfort: Dont try it!
Edmund went YOLO
Holy shit that's my house. Didn't expect a baz battle down the road from me.
Between u K&G and maney others i solute you sir and team......i need more history
This explains why Edward was so brutal against William Walace in the future. He has a thing against rebels.
Well William raped a bunch of nuns so he's not exactly a 'goody'
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Thank you for tossing a coin to your CZcamsr
"The battle was about to begin."
I love it how he says that.
Great video as always plz update the battles in chronological order playlist :-D
i never watched the full video yet but this message might be foreshadowing the outcome of this battle 7:31
Incredible 💪🏼
Look forward to the inevitable part two, the Battle of Evesham (1265) where, spoiler alert, Simon did not fare as well.
Simon: IT'S OVER HENRY! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!
Henry: You understimate my numbers!
I coud watch thease for all of my life.
So one thing i'd like to add; Edward fervently chased down De Montfort's infantry because the infantry he charged were londoners, he saw their siding with Simon as a personal betrayal but even more importantly, a bit before this battle his mother was leaving london when a mob of these same londoners accosted her party and hurled things at her. Edward chased them to send a message that nothing like that could ever happen, either as revenge for his mother or thinking on the safety of his wife the future queen. Edward's charging after them was less battle frenzy more revenge fueled rage. Though it can be argued that whatever the reason, the action did lose the battle, he knew how militarily incompetent his father and uncle were, and had he not left the battle to harry the london infantry he would have been able to support his father and likely could have beaten Simon there. Which he did do later on in their second battle, where he had Simon brutally murdered in the midst of the fighting by a hit squad of knights who were tasked specifically with finding the rebel and killing him
Main source for this information; A Great and Terrible King, Edward I and the Forging of Britain. By Marc Morris
The king could have pull a ceasar and just waited. He had more men and time on his side while the duke was on a hill.
Just form up and retreat using your cavalry to screen the action. But I don’t know how that plays politically. Better to fight another time of your choosing and place.
Dantick09 and build walls around the hill, ofcourse
Excellent
Awesome. I visited Lewes during Christmas and the battlefield is in a park now. XD
i am from Lewes, the battlefield was on the hills at the top of Lewes. As far as my memory recalls, the northern army under Simon de Montfort captured the prince in the mill and the king was forced to surrender. I made this comment before watching this vid, let's see if i'm right.
Flash Gordon Oooh so that’s it. I thought it was in the park because of the monument there.
Keep uploading
Love your videos, yada yada, keep it up plz.
I already knew the battle from the documentary "britain's bloodiest dynasty" LOL
Gretell Montiel Same. One of the best documentaries in my opinion.
Battle: A 13th Century European revolt in which the King loses and is captured.
Comments: _Star Wars._
Next up the battle of Evesham lol love this battle as I live in Evesham 😀
John: SIgns the first constitution.
BazBattles: Starts calling kings "dictatorial".
Henry: Well, that escalated quickly...
That's why you don't mess with the high ground
"Happy Lewes Day"
May 14th, 2023
12:15AM since I couldn't sleep for shi--
I wish you do D-Day the Normandy landings?The day that changed the course of History?The biggest amphibious invasion ever.