ReWind demo by NG & Zelax (Atari 8-bit)

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  • čas přidán 9. 07. 2022
  • Amazing Atari 8-bit computers demo by New Generation and Zelax, first place at Lost Party 2022 (7-10 July 2022, Licheń Stary, Poland).
    Requirements: Atari XL/XE, 1088KB
    Download: demozoo.org/productions/310140/
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Komentáře • 132

  • @atariexplorer1545
    @atariexplorer1545 Před 11 měsíci +16

    Amamzing effects for hardware designed in 1978, one of the great 8-Bit demos.

  • @GordonBraicks
    @GordonBraicks Před rokem +47

    As a real c64 fan I have to confess: this looks ridiculously good. Those colors…

    • @ecernosoft3096
      @ecernosoft3096 Před rokem +8

      Now is the time to convert!

    • @eiliannoyes5212
      @eiliannoyes5212 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Convert now!

    • @BrendonCarr
      @BrendonCarr Před 9 měsíci +3

      Atari's 8-bit computers were designed in 1977 and 1978, about three years before the Commodore 64. They should have been obsolete by that time.

    • @Matze_Supercomputer
      @Matze_Supercomputer Před 9 měsíci +10

      its not time to convert ! both C64 and Atari 8Bit are so beautiful !!!!!

    • @eiliannoyes5212
      @eiliannoyes5212 Před 9 měsíci

      So is the feud old! Convert or perish!@@Matze_Supercomputer

  • @chrischiesa3253
    @chrischiesa3253 Před rokem +19

    Very impressive! as a software engineer of 30+ years and an Atari putterer of even longer, I find myself dying to know how each effect was achieved. Makes me want to finish up some things I started in the 80s. ;-)

  • @alaggan
    @alaggan Před rokem +15

    This is truly impressive for 1979 hardware :)

  • @KrunchyTheClown78
    @KrunchyTheClown78 Před 5 měsíci +4

    This is amazing! WE NEED MORE DEMOS LIKE THIS ON THE 7800!!!

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming Před rokem +21

    Such a demo on the Amiga's true little brother would even impress Amiga fans. Such a Doom like game on the 8 bit would be mindblowing.

    • @nickolasgaspar9660
      @nickolasgaspar9660 Před rokem +2

      Actually there is one. Final Assault was released in 2021

    • @Ama-hi5kn
      @Ama-hi5kn Před 9 měsíci +4

      Jay Miner's work will live on in both Atari 8-bit and Commodore Amiga computers. He shall be forever remembered.

  • @Matze_Supercomputer
    @Matze_Supercomputer Před 9 měsíci +6

    I love this !!!

  • @AtariForeva
    @AtariForeva Před 5 měsíci +4

    4 channels of delight coming down from POKEY.

  • @swietyEFI
    @swietyEFI Před 10 měsíci +7

    7:51 - nawiązanie do Numena z wstawkami z soundtracku z Dooma wymiata :) Miker szacun

  • @anneschmitt8461
    @anneschmitt8461 Před 5 měsíci +4

    GTIA and Pokey make this system a 8-Bit Legend... Crazy, what they can do with a 6502, that lacks behind the C64s 6510 and the Spectrum/CPC/MSX Zilog Z80 CPUs! THX!

  • @Matze_Supercomputer
    @Matze_Supercomputer Před 9 měsíci +5

    this is so awesome !!!!!!!!!

  • @Eric-lr5ur
    @Eric-lr5ur Před rokem +8

    Respect. This blows away some top notch c64 stuff on with no sid lol... Great job.

  • @X1L3
    @X1L3 Před rokem +24

    From someone more familiar with C64 stuff - this is brilliant. The larger colour palette of the Atari really shines here and it all looks amazing. Had much of what the demoscene does today appeared back in games in 198x we'd have all been completely blown away. Imagine things like rescue on fractalus made then with what people know how to do now. Love it :)

  • @robertleeluben
    @robertleeluben Před rokem +5

    That chunky parallax is sick.

  • @recycledsteel3693
    @recycledsteel3693 Před 8 měsíci +5

    8:13 doom music, so cool.

  • @andrewvato491
    @andrewvato491 Před 2 lety +8

    Best demo for Atari 8bit and +1mb ram :)
    LOST Party rulez!!!

  • @JohnnyOrgan
    @JohnnyOrgan Před rokem +9

    AWESOME STUFF! Made the machine SING! Loved the car ride section.

  • @211ryo112
    @211ryo112 Před rokem +6

    Poldożer, czyli nasi tam byli !

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před rokem +2

      tak to demo jest zrobione w Polsce :)

  • @FaiRLanesWorld
    @FaiRLanesWorld Před 2 lety +11

    Wow! Great demo! i really like it. Nice effects, Parts are not too long, FSO :) nice doom part, great gfx and sfx.

  • @adamv242
    @adamv242 Před 2 lety +13

    Amazing what can still be squeezed out of these late-70s machines!

    • @TheRobertfili
      @TheRobertfili Před 2 lety +4

      1MB memory

    • @IXSVideo
      @IXSVideo Před 2 lety +7

      @@TheRobertfili The demo parts run on 64K machines.
      1MB is for a fluent run of the demo.

    • @cyberyogicowindler2448
      @cyberyogicowindler2448 Před rokem +1

      @@IXSVideo Does the 1MB only simulate a floppy for faster loading?

    • @IXSVideo
      @IXSVideo Před rokem +2

      @@cyberyogicowindler2448 As it is pre loadad into the memory, it's a kind of fast loading.

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před rokem +1

      @@TheRobertfili doom required 128kb ram , its run on standard 130xe machines ;)

  • @cedynski
    @cedynski Před rokem +8

    bonkers !!! :) big restecpa :)

  • @ChristianCostaBatageloSC

    Very impressive!! 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @HyLsT16
    @HyLsT16 Před rokem +7

    Waouh !! It's really an amazing work !!! Artistic & technic !!! oO So well optimised !! A very High quality demo on Atari XL 1088 !!!!!!

  • @doktor.pajchiwo
    @doktor.pajchiwo Před rokem +7

    szach i mat:) rispekt:)

  • @strassenbahntk
    @strassenbahntk Před rokem +9

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is a masterpiece on Atari 8-bit. First screen already shows things a C64 can't do. Heheh

    • @jammerc64
      @jammerc64 Před rokem +1

      VHS glitches? Doable 😉 Sprites against parallaxed bars? That's actually copied from C64 demos by Offence 😉 So pretty much can do, just with uglier colours 😃

  • @RyanGoolevitch
    @RyanGoolevitch Před 2 lety +8

    DOOM on the Atari 8-Bit! :D

  • @yeoman83
    @yeoman83 Před rokem +4

    Nie no genialne! Ja się pytam dlaczego nie było takich gierek na atari w latach 90-tych 😂

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před rokem +2

      może będzie w dzisiejszych czasach , bo engine gry jest w realtime a tylko zrzut klawiatury jest jako patch :D

  • @piotrus7aswaitosaw979
    @piotrus7aswaitosaw979 Před rokem +6

    No Borewicz wymiata wszystko co było do tej pory:-) Dziękuję.Super Demko.

  • @wirelessdirk
    @wirelessdirk Před 7 dny +2

    i love it.

  • @AppliedCryogenics
    @AppliedCryogenics Před rokem +6

    Excellent work guys! I like the color palettes and the music! Ooh, and that translucent cube! This is amazing. And the parallax! And the raycast engine! Jeeze, it's one astonishing thing after another!

  • @VinsCool
    @VinsCool Před rokem +9

    This is so amazing!

  • @transilvanischervampir666

    schönes demo 🐸

  • @j1mp4ck
    @j1mp4ck Před 2 lety +8

    Creí que en el mundo del ATARI ya era poco lo que me impresionaba, solo viviendo la nostalgia, pero REWIND rompe los límites. Muchas gracias por compartirlo.

  • @georgebachaelor7600
    @georgebachaelor7600 Před rokem +7

    WOW 🤩🤩🤩🤩

  • @marxamiga
    @marxamiga Před 2 lety +7

    Very impressive. Great work guys!

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita Před rokem +7

    This is amazing! Loved every scene and couldn’t stop watching this demo!

  • @ktnlepside1665
    @ktnlepside1665 Před 2 lety +7

    Amazing Demo ! ❤🇵🇱

  • @jarosawwasenko1341
    @jarosawwasenko1341 Před měsícem +2

    great!

  • @sandorhard
    @sandorhard Před 2 lety +27

    Wow, that Doom thing looks so complete (sky, prison with bars, light effects, etc...) you need to make a real game out of it! The forest with the bird would also make a very nice looking game. Also, was that a HIP plasma you had there? Didn't render properly on my phone, but it seemed like that. Congrats! (thanks for the greetings!)

    • @philsan69
      @philsan69  Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks but I am not involved in this stunning demo, my skills are limited ah ah.

    • @jrherita
      @jrherita Před rokem +4

      The bird / forest scene was very relaxing and would even just make awesome ambience by itself ..

  • @user-io9vy1fl6d
    @user-io9vy1fl6d Před rokem +4

    7.28 - старые добрые времена)

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před rokem +1

      Спасибо, как один из авторов этой демонстрации, я хотел бы, чтобы нас объединяла страсть, а не политика ;)

  • @sirfred2678
    @sirfred2678 Před rokem +6

    Amazing job :) Świetna robota :)

  • @Kane_Sct
    @Kane_Sct Před rokem +6

    Excellent work!!

  • @ballistik_coffee_boy
    @ballistik_coffee_boy Před 2 lety +8

    Very cool! Love it! I run an Atari news show here on YT each week, and would love to feature your channel in my content creators bit. Thx for this! New sub

  • @kosmodromkk
    @kosmodromkk Před rokem +5

    Szok Szok Szok!!

  • @crazyivan030983
    @crazyivan030983 Před 2 lety +5

    Pozdrowienia z Polski :) FSO :)

  • @Mariusz_Wlodarczyk
    @Mariusz_Wlodarczyk Před 2 lety +6

    Do-sko-na-łe! Braaaawooo! 👏

  • @mikwawrzyniak3968
    @mikwawrzyniak3968 Před rokem +5

    Miodzio 😍😍

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 Před 2 měsíci +1

    When conventional hardware reaches its physical limit relatively soon The next frontier will be efficiency

  • @IXSVideo
    @IXSVideo Před 2 lety +10

    This demo is f'cking impressive. But there is much more possible.
    I still don't see all GTIA and ANTIC features.
    Also, as all parts can run at 64K of RAM, there is apossiblity to run that stuff from disk without breaking the flow of a demo.

  • @anektarynkaa
    @anektarynkaa Před rokem +14

    Everyone knows that software developers from Poland are the best in the world. This demo is polish masterpiece.

  • @OTPULTA
    @OTPULTA Před 11 měsíci +5

    Хорошая демка

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před 11 měsíci +1

      спасибо :) Я бы хотел, чтобы страсть к ретро-технике была сильнее, чем политические вопросы ;) С уважением Święty/Zelax

  • @as...4307
    @as...4307 Před 2 lety +8

    The killer. /I\

    • @tatqoo
      @tatqoo Před 2 lety +5

      No co ty ;)

    • @as...4307
      @as...4307 Před rokem +1

      @@tatqoo Samciu jak no co ty :)

  • @macsmola
    @macsmola Před 2 lety +5

    Jest Doom - klikam lajka :D

  • @zdebel
    @zdebel Před rokem +5

    O cie...

  • @Corsa15DT
    @Corsa15DT Před rokem +6

    doom demo is nice. make it a game

  • @tatqoo
    @tatqoo Před rokem +3

    My part of music has been released on my channel (sorry for hijacking the comments).

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před 10 měsíci +1

      muzyka w tym demie wymiata :D demo się ogląda świetnie - mówię to mimo że sam zakodowałem sporą część dema ;)

  • @andreamazzai1969
    @andreamazzai1969 Před 2 lety +8

    Wow, sometimes it seems it's not 8-bit.
    I use dto have a C64 and I am aware of the limitations; it looks like the Atari had better color palette and also some special FX look impossible to do in the C64. Or is it that the Atari had a much more powerful processor and can do things that the C64 cannot?

    • @philsan69
      @philsan69  Před 2 lety +9

      Atari 8-bit computers are older machines (1979) than C64 (1982) but have some strenghts (128 colors, taller sprites, overscan, slightly faster CPU). Obviously they have some weaknesses (limited high resolution, lower resolution sprites, 128 characters set).

    • @przemekkobel4874
      @przemekkobel4874 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah, color palette is probably the worst part of C64 - ugly and very limited. Still, an excellent machine that can do different tricks than A8. The soundtrack in Amanita demo is just something else.

    • @Mrshoujo
      @Mrshoujo Před rokem +5

      Actually, the default maximum used to be 256 colors, but there are demos wringing out over 25,000 colors!

    • @cazb73
      @cazb73 Před rokem +10

      Atari had great coprocessors. That was the curse of many chip designers, especially Jay Miner. He designed perfect, timeless circuits. They didn't need to be changed until they were hopelessly outdated. And then they died with the machine that used them. It didn't matter if it was an Atari 8-bit or an Amiga later.
      But it's management's fault. The 'exhaust it to the death and then forget it' method was the only way to go they knew...
      For example, the Pokey could be enhanced to stereo. GTIA and ANTIC could get separated video RAM and allow higher horizontal resolution...
      Ok, being smart 40 years later isn't so hard...

    • @tommyeastwood4393
      @tommyeastwood4393 Před rokem +1

      @@cazb73 it had to be a cheap computer for the masses not the classes:)

  • @jezgomez
    @jezgomez Před 6 měsíci +3

    How did they get the drums to soubd so SID like?

    • @R6502A
      @R6502A Před 15 dny

      Atari Pokey can be configured with four 8 bit channels, two 16 bit channels or one 16 bit channel and two 8 bit channels. Therefore it can use small samples, just like the SID. SID has 3 16 bit channels. So POKEY can sound close to SID but needs a lot more memory to do so.

  • @MrMarianoamigo
    @MrMarianoamigo Před rokem +3

    Muzyka zjebana, jak to na A8, ale efekty i grafika - mistrzostwo!!! Ten doom to zajebioza!

    • @tommyeastwood4393
      @tommyeastwood4393 Před rokem +4

      Akurat tu nie masz racji. Jest typowo atarowska i dobrze brzmi....ale to juz kwestia gustu.

    • @tatqoo
      @tatqoo Před rokem +3

      @@tommyeastwood4393 A dziękuję w imieniu całej ekipy..

    • @tatqoo
      @tatqoo Před rokem +3

      @@tommyeastwood4393 Moja część muzyki dostępna u mnie na kanale

  • @lencioasimov
    @lencioasimov Před 2 lety +1

    I can't run it in my mister pga core, any ideas? thanks!

    • @philsan69
      @philsan69  Před 2 lety +3

      It runs in PAL mode.

    • @lencioasimov
      @lencioasimov Před 2 lety +2

      @@philsan69 y tried all combination in core options. And not work

  • @Mariusz_Wlodarczyk
    @Mariusz_Wlodarczyk Před rokem +4

    Zobaczyłem, zachwyciłem się, wyrażam szacunek. Ale uwierzę dopiero gdy ktoś mi to puści na prawdziwym Atari. Dodatkowy RAM (nawet 1MB) nie stanowi dla mnie problemu. Jestem z tych, którzy akceptują rozszerzenia pamięci w ośmiobitowcach, bo uważam, że w epoce ich RAM był sztucznie obcinany przez księgowych. Zresztą to dotyczy wszystkich platform, nawet wielu dzisiejszych.

  • @jammerc64
    @jammerc64 Před 2 lety +6

    No VBXE? :O

    • @SoloKazama
      @SoloKazama Před rokem +3

      tak wyszlo ;- ) pzdr:)

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před 10 měsíci

      zwykłe Atari z 1MB ramu ;) potęga kodu heh :)

    • @jammerc64
      @jammerc64 Před 10 měsíci

      @@swietyEFI ale 1mb to nie jest zwykłe Atari xD

    • @SoloKazama
      @SoloKazama Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jammerc64cmon jammerski, atarka nie potrafi ladowac danych bez wylaczenia polowy pokeya, ladujemy wszystkow ram i odpalamy (czasami pare bankow sie uzyje, ale z grubsza kazdy fx smiga na stocku); ja czasami zazdroscilem tego loading-w-tle-flow z komody, bo mozna pod muze fajny design robic

    • @jammerc64
      @jammerc64 Před 10 měsíci

      @@SoloKazama w zasadzie to powinna być cała sztuka aranżu muzy, żeby podczas ładowania danych 2 kanały wystarczyły 😉 ale zgaduję, że ładowanie ze stacji to więcej niedogodności, bo chyba z powodu samej muzy cała scena nie poszłaby w ram expandy?

  • @alexxbaudwhyn7572
    @alexxbaudwhyn7572 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Warner Atari was laughably badly managed.
    Lost Miner and the Amiga.
    The ridiculously badly designed 5200, which should have been the xegs in 1982.
    Unfocused, badly managed hardware design and manufacturing, causing 6502 shortages and xl overpricing, too many 2600 upgrade projects, crappy 2600 dev environment resulting in losing best coders to activision, imagic, etc,, rushed crappy coding like pacman, et, defender, etc, unfocused next gen 16bit computer projects, on and on.
    Tramiel picked up the pieces and had a great hardware run.

  • @b213videoz
    @b213videoz Před 4 měsíci

    The only worthy demo is a playable game 🤪

    • @swietyEFI
      @swietyEFI Před 4 měsíci

      find - adoom on atari xl/xe ;) my port based on this demo routines ;)

  • @mikewest6569
    @mikewest6569 Před 2 lety +2

    Stop wasting your time and talent on these stupid demos and make some games that people can actually play.

    • @ignacywiacek5324
      @ignacywiacek5324 Před rokem

      playing is stupid :)

    • @MichalG75
      @MichalG75 Před rokem

      „Flimbo’s Quest” game still awaits to be finished , to say the least! :|

    • @triplextechinquisitor4619
      @triplextechinquisitor4619 Před rokem

      🤣 kick ass your self ....do not try to tell others how to live...nolife Rlamer...BLasPh/NG

    • @FutureChaosTV
      @FutureChaosTV Před rokem +9

      You apparently have no clue what the differences between a game and a demo are.
      Both have totally different requirements and features.

    • @eiliannoyes5212
      @eiliannoyes5212 Před 8 měsíci

      Wow!