Tree work for the Beginner. How to climb, Set rigging, Spurs, Ropes & harness.
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- Tree Climbing & Arborist work takes skill & is dangerous. Today Its the basics: Roping, gear, cutting, felling, Pay rates & more. If your thinking about it watch this first!
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I’ve been a tree guy for eleven years and this was a really good video. I appreciate you looking out for us tree guys and appreciating what we do,
Jacob you are an amazing climber and I have admired you for years and love your videos keep up the good work buddy
Jake. You guys are AWSOME!! Have watched your channel a lot and am always noting how you and the other climbers never seem to get winded during a climb. Or at least you dont show it on film. :) I've been a climber for a while and you encouraged me to gopro my adventures and start a youtube channel too. I'll be contacting ya'll in the near future. Dave from iArborPRO, Maryland.
I've been a tree guy ever since trees and this is the most treeiest video. I atreeciate you looking for tree tree tree tree, tree tree.
I've been doing tree work for 20+ years. The single best place to start in this game is on the ground. Spend 2 years being the best groundsman in the company, watch the climbers, ask them questions, learn what they need u to do while they are in the the tree, if they don't have to constantly direct you from above you become more valuable and worth spending quieter times teaching you more, stay off Ur phone, be proactive, but the most important thing to do is be safe,keep people safe. Once u master ground work (including roping down etc) then your ready to start learning climbing... Pay your dues, you will be better at being a climber for it!! Dragging branches isn't fun for anyone, especially if you've just spent a good few hours up a tree in awfull weather or if your feeling under the weather..dragging and chipping is character building, it truly weeds out the lazy workers!!
Good input, thank you !
leakso1 Best comment here this man knows what hes talking about
Nobody likes to drag and chip brush but it's good for you 😂 character building like he said
It's just the truth as I see it. I've seen to many guys get the harness after 3 months in to tree work, and I've seen many injuries for it, including a man fall out of a tree, damage to property etc... This is not a game, refuse a harness unless Ur 2 years in to tree work ... One wrong move or decision will at the very least hurt you!!! Think about that... Stay safe.
Exactly ...
I've been climbing for 10 years, all I can say is start from the ground and move up.
I'm a ground man and I enjoy it waiting to climb tree though I've climbed my first Tri a long time ago climb 30 ft
Hahaha I see what you did there
Lol good choice of words
I have been climbing for 3 years
I bought my first pair of gaffs a few months ago, $90 on craigslist, nice set of buckingham pole gaffs, work excellent, although above 15-20ft I get a little shaky, and nervous, any tips?
I been climbing trees for 50yrs. I'm going to be 70yo next month. I climb daily. Hope I can get another 10 years! I do it for the challenges it brings. Pretty much learned by watching. I've had countless guys ask me to teach them, to this day not a one of them has been more than 10 ft up! It's not for most people, You have to really want it! I love my job! As far as wages, I demand what I know that I'm worth! Generally 40-45$ hr. Swing high, swing low, my fellow tree climbers, but most of all,swing SAFE!! Excellent Video,👍
Happy early birthday
Is it possible to climb a tree that is at an angle, not straight?
That's odd because every single source on the internet says tree climbers only make like 40k a year
Sure,in 1980 maybe 😅
My guy makes 500$ a day
I immediately went and bought all the gear and was a professional within an hour
laugh the fuckup
Nope
Story of my life bruh
Nob
Now that is funny! Cheers
Been climbing 30 years. Can't tell you the number of people who have asked me to teach them to climb. You can always tell the difference between those who want a paycheck and those who have a passion. Those who want a paycheck I show them how to climb, those with a passion, I teach.
@Johnathan Strange This is the best comment i have seen on this entire video.. Much love to you man
I want to be taught.
I’ve been Interested in climbing for 10+ years and just recently started getting the equipment I love climbing. I’ve loved to climb since I was little. I was actually nicknamed monkey. I’m pretty good at watching and learning but to be taught would be a dream come true. I’ve always had a passion to be a mechanic and I can work on anything from a chainsaw to a 318 v8.everything I know I’ve learned from CZcams or taught myself.
Yeah buddy,lots of men can climb a tree,but can they climb it and do a non butchering non corner cutting job?this type of work it's ranked as one of the four most dangerous jobs ,yet you gotta be finesse at it
@@artglezz1109 correct. Was trimming a Hackberry one time that gave me an uneasy feeling. That Eerie feeling made me want to tie off to a tree nearby as my tie-in point. Not less than 30 minutes the entire tree broke in half as a result of internal wood rot. I loved the wild swing that I had, but somehow I loved that feeling of knowing even though you didn't know.
Still climbing after 47 years. I got my first job when I was 20 and I'm now 67. When I talk to any new climbers I tell them that if at any point you feel a little uncomfortable making a cut in the position your in at the time, stop and reposition yourself in a more comfortable position for the cut that you're about to make. It's worth it.
My fellow aging arborist! I'm still confident at 70 and take on a few medium to small jobs to stay in shape. With a career like ours we are VERY safe! Good job!
When I’m up in the air I take my sweet time. If you don’t like my slow decision making process you don’t deserve my labor.
Is it possible to climb a tree that is at an angle, not straight?
Hi @markokg1982, simple answer is yes so long as you climb the back side of the lean that the tree is on. The object is to use gravity to help you, climbing on the back side of the lean uses gravity to keep you in the tree and also helps the gaffs dig in better and maintain a better angle into the tree. If you climb the underside of the tree gravity is wanting to pull you away from the tree. Sometimes though you do need to swing around to the underside to cut branches etc off. Obviously if the tree is on such a huge lean then no you probably can't climb that tree as you will tend to fall off /out of the tree (gravity) and working on the underside is impossible as well for the same reason, gravity. I recommend watching Guilty of treason you tube channel, there is probably the best video I have seen on the channel explaining climbing spurs, the use of them, gaffing out etc.
Hope this helps :-)@@markokg1982
I got bids to take down a 50-60' maple in my yard. Told them I wanted it "on the ground", I would process it the rest of the way. 2-3 hours of work for them at most. Tree crotched at about 7 feet, so no climbing really required. No powerlines, no fences, no risk of landing on the house or near the street. Multiple quotes >$3500. Bought myself an Echo CS400, safety gear, a few wedges and got to work. Worked methodically. Learned how to undercut limbs so I didn't bind the blade. Took a month by myself to process the whole thing to firewood--half split with a maul, the other half with a borrowed splitter. With saw, oil, gas, a few chains, chipper rental and stump grinder rental, cost about $800. I'm ultra paranoid and made sure I had clear exit paths and kept my site clean as I went. Most fun I've had in my 40 years. If it had required climbing, I'd have hired it out.
Thanks for sharing and for watching !
So I just bid a job to take down 2 50’ pines and I’m curious without having the gear what all I would need to get the job done right . If you by chance get this can you please message me all that’s needed for this type of job ? Any help and guidance is greatly appreciated. Times are tough rn and unfortunately taking a risk to eat is a must . Thank you in advance!
This dudes gear if from the 1900s. Old ass buckinghamd saddle. Dude fliplines the weirdest way ive ever seen
Rofl maple for firewood
@@YourStepDadBob Wow, reading this really late... hope your job went alright! The maple I took down was ~45" in diameter. So my 18" saw was undersized when it came to the base trunk, but was fine for limbs, bucking, etc. I could have used a bigger saw for some of it, but a bigger saw would be unwieldy for most of the smaller work. Saw was ~$350. Stump grinder rental was ~$250 for the day. Gas, oil, and a couple spare chains, some wedges figure another ~$200. I already had a splitting maul. A friend loaned me his hydraulic splitter for the big stuff, which was a huge savings. The biggest reason I was convinced to do it myself is because I could reach all the major branch/trunks from a short ladder on the ground. I dropped the limbs from bottom up. I labeled the limbs in the order I wanted to take them. Only had one limb that was even close to falling on something, so some rope work was needed, but no problem. I made some mistakes, but nothing I would consider dangerous (beyond your average risk working around this stuff). If I had been near any obstructions, I wouldn't even have tried it. Anyway, I know I'm late with this. Posting for anyone else in the same boat. I'm not above paying a professional to do something. But honestly it was a chance to do something I'd never done before, and there was minimal risk. I'd do it again in the same situation. But I wouldn't risk dropping something on my house in the process.
Have to agree with Rufus. Mentorship (if professional) is the greatest asset for a beginner. Love what was said about passion first. True wisdom right there.
Would be so sick
Jon the Roofer haha
Yep passion is the main reason that keeps me going. Arborists don’t really earn well if working for a company in the uk, I definitely don’t. But love what I do and love the constant learning. Your vids are great btw, big fan! 👍
MrStreetboy thanks!
August Hunicke my mentor has been doing it 27 years I have 6 years under my belt and have great respect for the dangers of this work I love. I can make it look easy too but trust me it is still dangerous i use caution always and take my time and think. Never ever be afraid to ask your mentor for help I still call mine all the time.be safe greenies.
Keith trimmed a couple of trees for me, was very impressed with his being very safety aware. Dropped the limbs exactly where he wanted them to go and did an outstanding job. Really enjoy watching a PRO do his thing!! Good Job! Real professional workmanship and a nice guy too.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING. In my younger days I was active in rescue work and built my own set of tree-gaffs...and learned how to climb by watching the power company workers climb phone poles. That was way before computers, CZcams, and even before sissor lifts and bucket trucks!.
I realized the skill it took and practiced in the woods behind my house, so when a rescue situation came, I could lend a hand, since, back then; IT was ALL VOLUNTEER! I helped save a bunch of lives! I've lived a life of serving. That's the volunteer side of me, but the professional side is a lot higher tech. I won't get into that. The point I'm making...the fellow in the video asked for people that knew about climbing and such, to tell beginners some sort of advice.
No matter whether you climb with Prussics, or gaffs, you always want to have a conditioned body. If you're fat, loose a bunch of weight before you start or you'll give out half way up the tree or bluff or rock, or whatever you're trying to scale! Then you will put someone elses life in peril by having to come after you! Look at an Arborist! You won't find even ONE that's out of shape! So you have to stay in shape...and round is a shape that will get you killed! Then you need to know your PPE! Know how to wear it...what it does and how to tie it. I slacked off alot on rope work when I turned 25, and spent the MOST of my time, fire fighting...(when I wasn't at my regular job). It was actually SAFER, fighting fire, than rope work was...so all you young people that are seriously considering being an Arborist...keep that little bit of wisdom in the back of your mind!
Again...THANK YOU FOR POSTING!!!
I love cutting trees... On the ground. Machines and wedges are my tools. NO WAY do I want to climb. That's a lot of money, time and skill for that. Any time I hear someone scoff at someone's estimate or complain about what they payed I have to hold back some language. Climbers deserve massive respect for that work.
Agreed 100%
I'm a professional arborist. You guys did a good job covering some important points. Tree work is one of the most physically demanding professions and you have to be 100% aware or you can get injured/die. The pay is not great considering how strenuous it is and the special skills required. Like you said guys who do it do it because they love to do the work, not for the money, and that's why pay tends to be low relative to other skilled trades. Experienced tree workers have a work ethic like no one else I've met.
I was curious why the pay wasn't substantially higher. It is a skilled trade that requires experience so I dont know what I am missing.
@@SINQUEFIELD83 well kiddo!! I've been doing tree work for many years and as climber you can easily make 250.00 for a small tree and for a medium to large size tree you can make close to 500.00 in one day that is pretty good money if I say..
the pay is actually great especially if your a climber, grondsmen here get $150-$200 a day cash, and thats probably only 6 hours work
Im literally about to climb a tree after my lunch break. I was told that 5 minutes ago, and thats why im watching this videa.
Hope it helps! 👍
Did you die
soo did he make it
@@josepadilla8606 not looking good
@@josepadilla8606 can't you read boy?
I've been a rock climber for 30 years. Just retired from the fire service. I've thought about getting into tree work for a retirement gig but there is certainly a lot to learn.
I’ve been tree cutting for several years. I only use ladders; therefore, I enjoyed this video. Great job guy’s. To all those who are thinking about doing this work, please adhere to their advise. Thank you very much for sharing your expertise. Take good care. God bless.
I'm 22 and I started climbing at 20.I only have 2 years of experience and I work near powerlines.This job isnt for everyone but if you do get into just always be careful and stay safe
And communicate to help keep all safe especially roping near lines
Are you still in the tree game how's it going I'm 21 just started 5 weeks ago
My brother fell from a tree 30 feet and here’s what happened. He broke his l1,l2, and l3 in his back. Crushed his right side of his rib cage and punctured his lung and lastly broke his neck. He did survive after 3 surgeries and 7 months in the hospital. He spent the rest of his life wearing a turtle brace and in constant pain. All because of a $600 bid to take a tree down. Please think and be careful.
How did he fall ?
$600? I can tell he wasnt geared up correctly
Wow. Did he have a safety lanyard on? Thats terrible
Dear Lord
My dad fell 40 feet and broke his necks and back in like 3 places
I appreciate the genuineness of this arborist. Thanks for sharing your experience levels with the added light humor for fun.
Been some time since getting up there. Respect for talking about panic. Watching an old school climber brushing up gave some key insights. I learned oldschool, yet keep 2 points, as it helps to build the confidence in the gear. Once you get to six inch wood, start to think about topping. By no means am I a grizzled climber, yet stoked to get back in the saddle. Thanks for the video.
Great video !
I have my own professional tree service and have been climbing for 27 years now and I am still doing it at 52 years young. All of my guys start on the ground dragging limbs loading the chipper, then they start to learn how to use a chainsaw correctly and safely once they can use a chainsaw with some sort of professionalism then I put them at the bottom of the tree doing all of the roping and down rigging along with using the chainsaw to keep the grounds crew and the guy up in the tree moving and safe. If a good worker has learned each step :
*The grounds crew work, dragging limbs,
Loading the chipper, properly how to tie arborist knots, even how to properly throw a rope and pull a rope.
* The chainsaw how to safely use it and cut with it in a responsible and professional manner.
*The roping, rigging, and chainsaw work ie managing the guy in the tree, the ground crew and keeping everyone moving.
Then I introduce them to the next big step of climbing!
You see a young guy NEEDS a good background in ALL of these steps to be able to LEAD a team and work professionally and SAFE.
**Note: there is no I in team, EVERYONE works together and goes home together!
I agree 100%. Learn the ground operation and what it takes for the climber to do his job while being safe. I was taught how to climb by a lumber jack out of Nova Scotia, eventually owing and running CATV pole line construction company, and sometimes climbing as many as 50 to 60 poles a day. That was the most rewarding work I ever participated in, now I sit behind a drafting table.
Tree work is great money!!! I'm 16 and I've been doing it since I could walk!! My papa is 61 and he's been cutting trees since he was 25!!
The most important thing in cutting a tree is the know how involved!!
Good job! Appreciate you reinterating that people should not take risks by trying to do something, just because someone made it look easy on you tube! I appreciate you being honest and saying how difficult it really is! Also enjoyed the comment about "don't do it for the money".
Thank you ! I appreciate the comments
Great video. Just started climbing a few months ago learning from a guy who owns his own company, is in his late 30s, and been doing it since he was 16. Tons of knowledge and better to learn from his mistakes. Long term goal is to open a company after I get my military retirement and he is all about putting me in the right direction.
Won’t lie climbing with gear and a saw is way more fun then when I was a dumb kid and just climbing trees to have fond in the woods.
Looks so easy!!! Perfect example of “LOOKS ARE DECEIVING !!!”
Thanks 🙏
Thank you Todd!
I would have loved to see him stand on his first limb and look at his knees. I started climbing when I was 32 for a municipality that did not allow spikes for trimming live trees. A year later I learn how to use spikes , but doing work in the evenings and on weekends with that I'm in enough to pay for my house without touching my regular paycheck in 10 years, and have a new car with two years. I do like your comments on safety they are very important for new climbers those tips to save someone life
Great video. I started in tree work when I was 11. My step dad was a climber watching him climb the trees and run the ropes for him was pure fun in my eyes. I worked with him on alot of jobs for years before him and my mom divorced I never got a chance for him to teach me to climb. Fast forward a few yrs I worked for a tree service for about 6 yrs working out of the bucket. It's been about 6 yrs since I've been out of the business I really miss it i still do tree work randomly for myself or family. But it's not enough so i went and ordered all the climbing gear needed and am gonna practice ascending and descending and then hopefully someday completely get back into the work. I found this video just browsing trying to research. Thank you for posting
Thanks for sharing Kevin and I appreciate you watching !
Thanks for looking out on us new guys. You are basically sending us blessings and we need as many of those as we can get when doing this stuff.
great video Dirt! Fascinated with tree work. love educational vids like this. please keep em coming. Thank you, be safe.
Setting a climbing line first is always the safest option. Always tie in twice when running a saw. Even a sharp handsaw will cut through a tensioned climbing line or rope lanyard in a heartbeat.
i moved from Minnesota to California a little over a year ago. used to watch you in MN, still picking you up in cali on a pretty different subject. love it, your the dude. hope all is well. thanks for all the schooling. will never forget how to eat an elephant.!!!
Hey thanks Anthony for still watching ! Hope all is well with you too
I have the greatest respect for you guys that do this for a living I used to use ladders to get into the tree canopy now I've bought myself climbing gear and practising to get comfortable with my gear I take my hat off to guys respect 🙏stay safe
For trees you want to keep the way to get up them without spurs is a thrown line. You have a weighted bag full of shot for a small but heavy bag on a light weight line to throw it up over a strong branch. That line lets you pull a full rope up and then with the rope in place climbing gear lets you get up and down. They also use slingshots and air guns to shoot the weight up but can throw on a large number of trees.
Carry a spray bottle of alcohol to spray down saws and cutters between trees to not spread disease from one tree to another as an infected tree can have zero signs it is sick.
Have a saw dedicated to known diseased trees. Yes it is an extra expense but you are doing your best to not spread things from tree to tree.
One important thing is to always be looking around as you climb as trees can hide ant nests and bee/wasp hives that you can not see from the ground and nothing like being tied to a tree when you disturb a hive of bees. If you think climbing is bad in normal gear think of how bad it is in a bee suit.
Sounds like you really know your stuff. Thanks for sharing that wisdom!
Another thing to keep in mind, if you're pruning and not taking a tree down, is to use some kind of friction saver to protect the cambium of the crotch or branch. I'm a newbie at this and my passion is to only remove trees if absolutely necessary.
Be safe, climb well
Eace
Truly informative. Do you have a channel?
Want your knowledge. Seems to be much more coverage
Thanks for this. I love the insight.
Groundsman for 5 years then went up. Watching it day in day out definitely helps. Like an apprenticeship and its own challenge in one. Good groundies are PARAMOUNT
Is this a groundsman responsibility?
I’ve been on the ground mostly for my 8 plus years experience and that’s where I learned the most. I’ve been in a tree quite a few times as a kid and as a professional and by no means am I anywhere near as experienced as I am on the ground so I’m starting over and learning to rig and climb, I’m thinking of starting my own business now and will say. If your planning to own or start a tree business. Don’t even think about it unless you know how to climb already, or have very deep pockets. Ive done lots of other types of work but love tree work and so I figure this is my calling
I hardly ever comment on any video but this video blew my whole understanding of tree climbing out the universe I'm too cheap to pay a tree removal company to remove a pine in my back yard seriously I had no clue how complicated tying ropes together can be today I learned that is truly a science the youngman that's showing how its done safely sir true true respect for your field wow the gear alone is a deterrent for me trying that this video is the most interesting on CZcams THIS WEEK THANKS
Enjoyed seeing how it’s done. I was fearful the whole time though. God bless these skilled workers.
Good video! My ex husband has been trimming trees since he was a kid. His dad owned a tree company and later on so did his older brother. My ex also worked for a couple of the big nation wide companies, (my son still does, he learned from his dad). These two companies clear the trees from the electric lines. They've had some really close calls. It's very dangerous. And you're right Stan, they don't get paid nearly as much as they should. You guys really think hard on whether you really want to do this.
Your right June- its so dangerous- especially around Power lines! Thats even worse yet.
Did they work for Right tree company?
A couple of nationwide companies.
I'm from NZ and just starting out as a groundie and learning things about climbing week by week. Really great.
cheers for the video, just starting my tree surgeons training journey in the UK.
I have those tendencies to watch a video and say "I could do that"! Well I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I am smart enough to know when I'd like to keep my neck in tact! Good info!
made me chuckle thank you.
More often than not. I think that's the right answer on big tree. Climbs
I financed 200 skydives by doing tree work on the side. Ordered a set of climbing spikes from Grainger and got out my rock climbing gear and went to it. I had a bunch of rappelling experience so trusting rope wasn’t an issue. Eventually got regular tree work gear which made it easier. I just did the limb and trunk dropping and the homeowner did the clean up. I did around a hundred trees and then hung it up. Was a great experience and the hardest work I ever did. It was long before CZcams was around and just used my head to work through issues. Never got hurt, made a lot of extra cash for my skydiving hobby and had some very tired evenings. Be safe.
You too Randy, thanks!
I worked for a tree service for a few years I worked my way up through the ranks became an a trimmer and danger tree specialist safety is a huge part of being good in this field good video guys
Safety is very important, thank you !
I have watched this video many of times and I love it every time I watch it. I love how much emphasis Keith puts on safety. I also how you start out Stanley. I was there once. I have also seen you in another video this summer were you were back in the saddle. You had all the guys up at your northern cabin. Love this video.
Thanks so much for being here Bill, appreciate the love 😀
@@Dirtmonkey Also I understand but I really missed seeing you last weekend. You gave me a shout out over a book and the respect that was in your post blew my mind. It was moving. I enjoyed your zoom call. Take care Stanley. Stay in touch.
I like how you say your scared when you start. So true. The next thing I say is trust your gear. Show proper attachment points ( D rings only). Know your knots!!!
Me: looking for a video on how to get into a high tree
Them: don’t do this
I've been watching videos all day to try to figure out how to cut down my palm tree, I guess it ain't going to happen.
@@stevievelarde6835 call a pro an never ever ever ever ever think a ladder is a good idea I been doing trees for 14 years and it's a whole new game off the ground so if you have never done it staying on the ground is the best idea. Spend the money save your life and make sure whoever u choose is insured work comp an liability. There's alot of guys with a pick up an a chainsaw who call themselves arbor workers and could cost you a lot of money to repair their damages.
@@danielm2312 thanks D. Yeah way out of my league brother.
I can do anything theme song running through.... followed up with a hell naw...
Too late
I’ve been doing tree work out of a lift for around 5 years (out of 8 years because my hips gave out and I wasn’t able to walk until my surgeries) and I’m just now learning how to climb. This work is not for the faint of heart!
I was in natural resources in the corps. Lot of our work was limbing and thinning. Did a lot of that. Learning what you can before popping spurs on. But experiencing it first hand is the best teacher
Allot of injuries happen when heading up a tree! There is NO reason to climb up with only a buckstrap. Set your lifeline with a throw ball.....this assures you will be safe at all times
STIHL BORN Sorry, but NOTHING assures you will be safe at all times.
Albert Ledesma you are correct....at no point did i say that all the dangers are gone. My point was to give an example of a way to perform the task with a bit more safety. IMO....the second you stop being scared...is the second you should stop working in this line of work.
"... this assures you will be safe at all times" is the point where you "say that all the dangers are gone."
You throwing a ball up is one way to get up the tree but you don’t have to it’s all situational. Working as a line clearance tree guy we rarely throw ball our life line into a tree and normally take the stairs. But again it’s situational.
If I drive safe that doesn't mean there is no danger. It just means I'm being safe at all times.
I’m 17 and have been climbing for about 6 months and climb nearly everyday, I suggest joining a tree service and starting from the bottom and working your way through the process of being a ground man and watching climbers everyday and when they think you have the skill and knowledge to climb they will let you!
Im 17 i work for my dads small landscaping business i do most of the tree work including all the dragging heavy lifting and grunt work i work two jobs as is publix and my dads lawncare /landscaping business i dont want to leave either do you have any suggestions for me
Hey man I'm 16 and I'm a groundsman and I have been for half a year now everyday of the week I want to learn how to climb but noone has time to teach me where should I start ?
@@johnwalden1213 It might be time to apply at another tree company and tell them what you want.
@Blake839 he's literally giving the same advice has experienced climbers.I was actually just thinking that coming from a seventeen-year-old it's pretty good advice
17 and working for 6 mos. Ill pass on the advice.
Awesome instructional video. Much respect! You guys aren’t paid enough. Would love to learn but that’s why the Pros’s are Pro’s! 😊👍🙏
Just subscribed. I have no intention of climbing trees. But the appreciation for the skill can be realized by watching. Also kudos to you for going outside your area of expertise! Thank you!
Love!!! Climbing been climbing since a little boy but now got safety lines. And still love it.👍 then I get home I'm still watching climbing 😂😂 family thinks something is wrong with me😂💪💪💪💪
I do the same thing and family thinks the same thing
@@robertstroh4803 Nice.😆 mate 💪💪
I'm glad you addressed the panic attack factor, I've been having issues as an electrician, climbing up big columns that require straight ladders to go up 200 feet. Even going up 50 feet in a lift, if I'm alone I feel like I'm very prone to having a panic attack, because I have had them in the past working at heights.
Had a job doing telecom in my early to mid twenties. Most definitely do not carry a small flask.
@@Helpasos NO!
@@Lengsel7 YES!
@@Helpasos 😂😂😂😂💯
Ive been climbing trees since I was about 4 years old, looks like fun to me.🤷♂️😁👍
Yes! Make more videos! DIY and HGTV ruined my 20’s and 30’s... I watched this video because were considering cutting down an few, but you have provided excellent display for reconsideration...we used no equipment and bout died! I got intimidated when I underestimated the weight of the tree....the thud of the fall shook my soul, I realized at that moment we had entered a true danger zone, if a branch even barely catches you it’s game over. I agree with the wife y’all look fantastic
Thank you and more to come !!
In my own opinion, one of the best places to start is honestly to get into a big tree service, the companies who clear power lines. Getting into a company like that will open many doors to learning from the ground up, from simply dropping straight trees from the ground to limb walking and trimming back limbs and everything in between. It's a good place to learn from some very experience people who have made a life of doing it.
Great intro to tree climbing! I'm 45 now and working fly in, fly out, was a rock climber/mountaineer for many years and this industry has piqued a HUGE interest for me as I don't get to the hills much anymore sadly. More from the rope access and vertical side but I'd love to pursue it. The further down the rabbit hole I look, the more enticing it becomes - can't believe I've only really discovered it now. I've a tonne of ground experience with saws, but you're right, there is no way, even though I'm very confident working with your roping systems, that I'd jump straight up into a tree with a saw. Those nuances like tree deformations, saw behaviour a limb control/lowering I think would be far better learned from a safe vantage point at least to begin with. Though I do intend to study up and at least get some practice in amongst the canopy without cutting anything while I'm learning and dragging logs!
Hi
I'm Larry
Desert Oasis Tree Service.
Ben a tree man for over 30 Years.
Loved it when you said when in doubt rope it out.
I'm 64 and still climbing and taking the big the bad and the ugly trees down. Did storm trees for 10 years and still do then here at home. That power saw gets in your blood.
Thank you, really reinforcing on the do and don’t . Ground guy first is my take off and ultra safety approach. Cheers thanks again
August Hunicke is a good climber to watch on u tube as well as human good vid stan
Buckin billy ray
Reg Coates
Haha i watch all those guilty of treeson seems they know what they are doing
I have to let my friends know about this. (Stanley & Keith) I was hired to remove some trees. I began today. The customer said he watched a CZcams video to see what I would be doing. He said it was 2 guys and one guy was scared. He described the video and I asked if if ended because of a thunderstorm. He said yes. I told him I knew exactly which video he was watching. I also told my customer not only have I seen the video I have both of those guys cell phone #'s on my speed dial on my cell phone and they both are my friends. The customer was shocked that I knew both of you guys but I loved the fact that he was taking a look at what I would be doing and ran across your video.
Good look out! Godspeed, Bro.. My respects for all those climbers. From your angle I can now see how daring and dangerous it is. You guys ought to be paid more. It's not just a job, it's a challenge against your health and death. Seriously my sincere RESPECT for all three climbers out there.
Thank you for the support for us Gentlemen. I did my time with some old school guys before moving into Davey tree and the big three in NY for a catch up to modern ways experience. I guess 4 - 5 years with mentorship then out on your own.
I'm ten years in as a self-employed climber and treasure my time with the experts every day.
Thats why I'm alive.
The "In it for the money" guys I knew never made it. The one passionate or who were "hungry" did. Most of them anyway.
Safety First.
All of you start watching bucking billy ray smith a real life legend,This guy bucking billy ray smith makes you know it alls look like gardeners.
Yeah he be way up there
Or human he’s pretty legit and funny
Human is really good too.
Both are good gumans new school buckims old school
Coy McKenzie brother old school all the way
I heard that falling isnt even that bad. Its just that sudden stop at the end...
LOL- I think your right
Al Irizarry gravity kills. Lol
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Yah, that also applies to sky diving! :-D In my first 20 jumps I had 18 malfunctions. So I would say the first few times you climb, expect something to go wrong.
that is why you stay connected to the tree or use a dynamic rope
Great, just what we need a video online for people to go out buy there own gear and boom your an arborist now. Keep the teaching for your employees and proteges
Im about to get into tree work I'm 23 this video was extremely insightful you guys thank you so much especially Keith your explanations are very thorough and you don't miss any point.
Are you still doing tree work by chance?
@@codyhanson1581 yes I've been climbing now since last fall and I've progressed so fast and I love it!
Thats awesome ill hopefully be climbing by the end of summer or the begining of next year
@@codyhanson1581 be careful! I feel thus is what I was meant to do. Everything hS came very naturally to me and I've even surpassed my teacher and a lot of other climbers I know who have been doing tree work and climbing for years. Not that I don't still have a lot to learn. Oh boy do I!
The statement about passion first is so true. I grew up on 10 acres climbing trees freestyle when I was 5, learned how to use a saw when I was 12. Didnt put the 2 together till I was 22. As far as money goes, it is lucrative but it took me 3 years to figure out my price point. I now wont climb for even family for less than $50/ hr, no minimum though because I love the work that much. In regard to hours, I regularly work 100+ hrs in a week for the company I climb for. Overall new guys lookimg to get into the industry ABSOLUTELY need to find themselves an experienced mentor. Be it either a guy like myself or a professional trainer/ seminar like Phil Kelley (best climber I've seen) that teaches @ Vermeer Arbor training events etc. My company brings him out periodically to train us on everything from the basics of safe climbing to advanced rigging techniques. Climb high, cut safe and check your pulse because if blowing out a top @ 100' doesn't getting your blood pumping you might already be dead.
Thanks for the comments Todd!
Im 19 years old and do tree trimming full time for a company that works with the power company and it is really fun work but really hard on the body. Its awesome being 75ft up in a tree seeing stuff from a birds eye view. I also run a lawncare and landscaping company when I get off of work so sun up to sun down 6 days a week is a regular thing!! Its a great field to get into!!!!!!!
Awesome , for sure!
I’ve only been in trees for a short time now and I vividly remember being that beginner in the video. I started as a chipper operator and clean up guy and worked my way into climbing trees. I learned from a great climber, Nathaniel Ride, the ins and outs of climbing and I got to wear I was in some pretty knarly trees, trimming, rigging, and felling some wild stuff. For those beginners out there…START SMALL…watch experienced climbers, watch beginner climbers and critique what they might make mistakes on. PRACTICE YOUR KNOTS a million times until they become muscle memory. One of the worse feelings that I’ve experienced is getting into a tree and completely forgetting my steps and techniques. It’s super hard for someone to explain it on the ground and then actual performing it 100+ feet in the air. Last but not least for now…TRIPLE CHECK your gear before every climb, and TRUST your gear literally with your life. Love this video when he said you have to be symbiotic or one with your gear. Great video guys, thanks for posting! Sorry I’m late to watching it, lol.
Great work Keith and Stan!
Thank you!
Thanks Rufus
Awesome vid for beginners! Thanks for breaking down the gears and lines in detail. Definitely going to continue my research and prep before i attempt to prune the trees in my backyard (and drop at a later date).
This video was very informative. Everyone that was in the video, added to the quality of the video. Great job!
I got back into tree work after many years at the age of 52 because of this video. That was 2 years ago. I love climbing and had forgotten my passion for it. This is not a job for somebody that is not willing to commit almost all there time to it. There is lots to learn and I think that you only will really learn it If you are passionate about It. There is lots to learn and the learning never stops. Also you need to be willing to expand your comfort zone in many ways, and to do that safely you need to understand many things about trees and gear. People should not take this lightly and really need to ask themselves if they are willing to really do what is needed to do this job properly. First learn to climb and use the gear before ever taking a saw up with you. This is a great vid.. im more new school now. Back in the day I was old school cus it was the old school that existed back then. I have 3 different mechanical devices. And i have a favorite, I have a petzl zigzag, rope runner pro and a unicender. My favorite device is the unicender. Thank for this vid. And I like the message.
I’ve been doing tree work for 12 years groundsmen all these years & I know a good amount of knots learned a lot from the climbers been with a few company’s but mainly worked with my friends dad & I’ve got to say I love tree work. I think it’s time to start climbing
Stanley I think you are just awesome man!!! Great into to this vid.
Thank you 😀
Keith is a pro for sure. For newbs I recommend Rock climbing, that's where I started. I builds confidence with heights, learning all the knots and gear and the trust of the equipment during a fall. Everyone should fall once to truly understand
Started this job after being out of work because of covid layoffs. Ground guy right now, but i think i mightve found my career. Yesterday boss asked if i wanted to learn how to climb. So stoked.
Can not wait to get myself into trees. Safely.
I do this professionally 6-7 days a week, and while I respect anyone that is in this line of work, and im sure this man is a hard worker, so much of this video is super cringey. For one, he tied his blakes hitch wrong, although he is using an approved termination knot on his carabiner(anchor hitch). please please seek professionally guidance if you want to get into this trade. this is not a game, it is very real and very dangerous. august hunicke is a guy on youtube that is extremely knowledgeable, his videos are worth a watch but no video is substitution for real life training through mentorship. be safe; climb high!
Climbing arborist and educated climber are also good resources for information
Bino h is also good for introductory gear, knotts and climbing techniques
watched several times over, the blakes hitch was not tied wrong. can you give more info on why you feel it is wrong please.
We do treework a LOT. It's what we refer to as a "value added service" as a general contractor. My guy has been an arborist for 30 years. He has had more major serious injuries over the decades that I am surprised he is still alive. Our customers often scoff when we quote 3K for a single tree. They think it's so easy to do. My man has 3k in just GEAR to do the job. Working trees is possibly the hardest and most dangerous work anyone can do. For anyone needing tree work. Please respect the men doing it and try to comprehend the sheer amount of effort, skill, COST etc to just be able to do it and do it safely for both the Arborist and customer's property. But I'll admit. I'm a complete coward with heights. I wont use anything larger than a 10ft ladder. I loved the end when Stan went up. I did the exact same thing with my guy. Not because I wanted to do this type of work but because I wanted a understanding of what it took to do this. It gave ma a new respect.
Rob Lambert great comment man
Meanwhile in Amazon jungle natives climb their fucking trees using muscle power a strap of bark wrapped around their feet. Somehow they survive and don't charge 3K per tree, I guess.
@Brock Jones yes, I'm not claiming accidents don't happen, just claiming that some "professionals" might rely too much on equipment and too little on intelligence and skill. Imagine if a circus tightrope walker had to wear tons of expensive gear and charge his customers extraordinary because of that. It would kinda show he sucks and nobody would hire him. Of course, he still needs a safety net BELOW in case he falls ... which he doesn't because his job depends on not falling.
@Brock Jones well if all you need is rope and a saw, I suspect you are not one of those guys charging 3K per tree. And I doubt that your rope costs 3K either (as the original poster seemed to be implying).
@@clray123 we aren't in the Amazon jungle
This video popped up on my play list again. I love this video. I was there once scared to death. Now I have been 70ft in a tree with a chainsaw in my hands. Keep working on it Stanley. You will get there. lol
fair comment.newbies need to practise the basics.setting ropes,working saws at height.etc.I've climbed from childhood.used t be a flying trapeze artist until but a truck head on and bust my back.when you're I top,you need to be working your ropes and saws,without distractionds.practise,practise practise.if it evident come natural you need more training,or another trade.some folk think if they watch a video,they are able.every tree different and any knee of them has the potential to kill/seriously injured you.if you've not got control over the situation,you are a fool.not only to yourselves but to your groundman too.stay lucky brother.he all listen to this man.we don't want to see anyone hurt.stay lucky.maddogdom.West cork.republic of Ireland
Be prepared for loads of training and costs for training, after working as a groundsman for a while I trained in this order..
-specialist arb first aid training.
-tree I.d and disease I.d
-Ground saw use and maintenance.
-large fell.
-Aerial rescue.
-use of chainsaw in a tree.
-rigging and dismantle.
Remember these qualifications need refreshing atleast every 5 years.
Work with a climber and watch how he/she deals with different species of tree. You need to recognise if a trees even safe to climb in the first place. Whittle college is good if your in the uk plus going home and learning more from online resources. You can learn all the knots you may need to use. And most importantly, when people stop to watch you because they find it amazing, which people will do, don’t be a smart ass and act all cocky and try and be a big man. You won’t feel like a big man when sitting down the hospital waiting to be stitched up!
Good info, thanks for sharing 👍
Electrical hazard awareness training if also very important (which needs to be renewed every year). In the USA Paul Smith's College as a decent arborist degree. When I went there it was called Urban Tree Managment.
Ive been working for a tree service company for almost 3 months and have recently started training for climber i am training under a guy who has been climbing for 20 years best thing to do is always inspect equipment and take it slow if it dont feel right then readjust before something happens
I love this video. I told Keith about my best friend trying to climb the tree and Keith was laughing and understood. But I remember how I felt the first time I climbed the tree.
Thanks Bill!
Pm
Amazing! So much to learn in a very short period of time. Overwhelming but beautiful for the courage. Keep on keeping on.. You will get it:):)
22 years and lyme 36 times, at 59 hung up the spurs. Good times and free work outs. Use a split tail.
I'm becoming a climber. Never done this. Any tips?? Not standard company either. Me and my brother are starting a tree removal company.
Start at the ground, learn your saw and the reaction the wood has to your cuts. Learn to judge height, walk back from the base of the tree until the top is at a forty five degree angle add your height and that's going to give you an idea of if it will fit. Get good bull ropes, snatch blocks, porta raps. Learn your knots. Never make a cut when your not tied in, never make a cut when your tied in without a second tie in (halyard)
Work hard, pay attention, have a boss who’s invested in you and wants you to own a business or climb. I bought a diesel dually when I started and it gave me and edge as well as buying my own equipment, don’t slack on tree gear. Be professional, humble yet confident in a tree and don’t rush
Good advice,I've been cutting trees since I was a young man but have never been around any climbing professionals. Today I went up my first pine tree with spikes and just a old rope and a belt. I got 3/4 up at 30 to 40 ft was making my knotch and my Spurs gave way . I cought myself for a split second after a 10 ft. Drop but felt like I was on a ice pole and down I went until I hit the ground. Only a tree burn on one knees. Call me crazy but after I hit ,I made a small adjustment to the rope I was throwing around the pine and back up I went.
Didn't realize there was so much gear until I seen this video. My second attempt up the tree was better,made a good knotch and fell the top section right on my mark. My spikes was still just taking chunks out of the side of the tree ? I'm guessing I was standing up way to straight . I have a passion to work so day after day I'll climb trees and either I'll teach myself or it's gonna kill me. I have no desire to stop. I'm 51 years old also. Don't tell me I can't
Very interesting, thank you. I am considering this line of work and it was very informative. Thanks again.
I'm fairly a new climber. I'm blessed to have my best friend as my trainer. Definitely got to be comfortable, the right gear, and fearless. Being an athlete has helped me the most.
fear less Is wrong. fear keeps you alive remember that.
Did my first at 11 yo. 2 maples with major forks at about 30 ft. All rope rigging ,all home done. Mirical ime alive today, made major mistakes. Cut the top tied off around the tree no life line and it splits top to bottom., that tree should have cut me in half with the rope around it. The top layer over to just be for 90% then roles and popped loose, bucked took my shirt off as it went under my rite arm and filed skin off my chest. The line catching on the splinters are all that kept me from dropping out at about 45 ft. And yes I said I was 11 yo. Dad laughed his ass off me dangling up there spinning like a top. Always called me a lumber jerk after that. He's gone 18 years now. And it's one of the better memories.
Thanks for sharing Charles and thanks for watching!
God bless. I will definitely put a stop to any kid's in trees with saws if I see it. That is a man's job, you didn't deserve that.
Gale Hess his dad was making him a man yours made you a puss
Big kudos to Keith Kalfas. All this time, I thought he just made crazy A.D.H.D. videos about landscaping. Pretty impressive climbing skills! Lol
As soon as I watch this guy I consider my self as a professional arborist. You know I last week I used an old spurs like 5 years old sharpened them put them on used only a lanyard just I climbed a tree about 50 feet high came down took me almost 40 minutes but it was fun . It was crazy but very entertaining.
I absolutely know nothing about climbing trees.This video is awesome.I think i'm about to go climb a tree outside..... Seriously a lot of great info
13:00 When seasoned tree climber says ‘you could have a panic attack’, I was like - nope!
I’ll stay on the ground thanks.
Nailed it Stan. It really is a high skill extreme liability of danger. The best advise I could give owning an arborist tree service would be to take your time and get the experience. In actual every day jobs, 3 smaller 40ft trimming jobs is usually a better job to lock in then a 70ft cotton wood. Don't bite off to much for your body to handle.
Good advice- I like to take smaller jobs sometimes instead of bigger riskier projects myself.
A year ago I saw this video and immediately wanted to climb. Fast forward to now I got the dream job, landed an apprenticeship with a local tree company and now I climb every other day
Great video , really opened my eyes to all the risks and dangers in this Line of work !
Thanks Cory, hope it helps you out!
A climber should know the species of tree he is in....every tree is different....may be brittle, or it maybe hard wood. It may hinge good, or it maynot hinge at all!
Amen to that. Healthy oak is insanely strong. Overgrown/dying Bradford pear is one step above styrofoam. I've gently leaned against a branch the size of my leg and had it snap off.
STIHL BORN I have a tree in my yard that I don’t know what it is. It has decaying branches that break off after moderate to heavy wind and rain storms.
Even though some of the branch are about 4-8” diameter I’d be afraid to climb it to cut it seems brittle. (I’ll hire somebody first 😏)
I don’t trust that thing to hinge or no hinge.
Yep!
very true
If I could find a cannabis tree it would be great to climb. I would get really high.