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- Sometimes projects are just too big for the equipment we have, and you have to accept "failure". The @Kubotatractorcorp B2601 is a very capable compact tractor. The @Artillian "front hoe" stump bucket is heavy duty, well made, and extremely effective. But that doesn't mean they can do everything. Today I learned that after spending more than 3 hours trying to remove an old tree stump. It was simply too big.
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I’ve got the same tractor w/backhoe and I’ve dug my share of stumps up. I’ve learned that patience is the key and water can be your friend. After exposing as many roots as I can I fill the hole with water and let it absorb overnight. Dry soil and rocks are locking the entire root structure in place. If you can soften the area deep down around the roots I bet you’d be successful. Good luck!
Thanks for the encouragement, Greg!
Valiant effort! Sometimes a backhoe, or fire is what's needed. Best to take a break, regroup, and try again later. Good job, and a good start.
Thanks Ross!
Amen to that Ross 😇👌👍( BTW ROSS I RECEIVE YOUR LETTER TODAY !!! ) SO NEXT WEDNESDAY IT IS ROSS ON THE LAND STICKER TIME MON AMI CHEERS
@@RCAFpolarexpress fantastic David!
Well Ed Rome wasn’t built in a Day so try again another day I am sure you will get it out. Thanks for the video 😁👍🚜💨🍳
Great effort, Ed! I’ve tried to dig up big stumps with my backhoe that I was SURE they must be rotted out after many years. Nope. Like your Persimmon tree, those stumps were still surprisingly solid below ground. You’ll need a bigger machine for this one, my friend. Thanks for sharing!
"I didn't really want to move that dumb ol' stump anyway. Stupid stump."
👍😎
Haha!
💥 You tried, but I have a feeling you’re not done yet. You just ran out of time. Looking forward to part two. That’s a big one!
*Keep on tractoring!*
I understand the frustration of stumps. My neighbour got smart and bought a Woodland Mills stump grinder. But it's still tractor time! Have a great weekend Ed. 🚜🪵🇺🇸🇨🇦🍻🍻🍻🍻🍹
Morning Ed! You did great pal. You may remember I had a stump bucket for a while and my first video or two were pretty rough. LOL. Here's what I learned : I noticed you push forward through the dig. The teeth on the sides of the bucket are meant for sawing. Drive into and under the roots. Stop, curl in ( to apply pressure) and then lift while you reverse out of the dig. This allows the bucket to saw through the roots . I think you are correct in that you want to work from the outer roots towards and under the stump. You have to take little bites at a time. In and under. stop, curl in, and lift while you reverse. When you see a big root, move the tractor so you are digging and sawing it perpendicular to the root direction (just like you are sawing a board). Today's a new day! Don't give up - get back at 'er. Take your time and you can do it!! I promise!!
Hi Gord. I was actually thinking of you while working on the stump. I do remember your videos. And I remember the criticism you received for “beating up your B2601”. There’s a lot I didn’t show here, haha. I may take a break and try again! Thank you, my friend!
@@MyClutteredGarage LOL! Yup...give it another shot my friend - you'll do great!
Ed, Great attempt. Thanks for posting. I appreciate that you can post even when the result is not quite you wanted or expected.
Live on to challenge it another day.
Dan
Thanks Dan. The good, the bad, and the ugly, right? 😄
Before I had a backhoe I'd burn the stump out. Stump cut low, bore big holes in said stump and pour in Diesel fuel. Keep filling it up for a month or so, then light er up. With the diesel soaking in so long, it gets down into the roots and burns them too. My neighbor lent me a barrel with no bottom or top but had holes around the bottom, we put it around the stump and added cordwood to keep it going. If you stood near you could feel the heat through your shoes. That barrel was like a turbocharger for the fire.
Stumps are more challenging than we realize!
You made great progress towards ultimately getting that thing out. May not seem like it while the battle rages on but once it's over you'll see how far you were.
That is a good size stump! Removing stumps with a smaller machine is quite a task. Take a break, regroup, and I say give it another try once you're less frustrated. Maybe you results will be different. I was really "rooting" for you though!
Haha! Thanks much!
I spent 3 hrs removing a 18 inch freshly cut pine tree. I used my B2601 & a china made stump bucket. I did get the stump out but it was quite a chore.
Good job! They are handy for smaller jobs, right?!
You have to be retired with lots of time on your hands
@@sleddog46 so THAT’S what I’m doing wrong! 😄
Nice try. Tree stumps can be incredibly stubborn.
I was using a backhoe and a skid loader and I had a hard time with one yesterday
The most interesting thing to me here is it it didn’t take away my curiosity to watch you dig even though you told us it didn’t work at the beginning
Thanks Brock. I figured I had to say it up front as to not disappoint! Appreciate your support!
We all fail time and time again that’s how we get better and more creative
That’s frustrating for sure! I dug on a stump in my field for hours…even cut roots with a saw and could NOT get it loose. I finally just cut it off below grade and buried it. You gave it a solid effort. 🤷🏼♂️
That may be my only hope!
You're absolutely right! Sometimes you just have to walk away. Sometimes you just have to walk all the way to your local explosives dealer for a few sticks of dynamite! 🙂
🤣🤣🤣
Sometimes it’s best to realize you don’t need to waste positive energy on a negative situation.
Situations like this make me glad I have a BX23s And the BXpanded root ripper for the backhoe. Makes the difference between night and day.
I have to admit that I'm glad you posted a fail. Fails too are a great teaching tool. Thanks for the lesson of what may not be the right way. Hope you do eventually get it out and the mess cleaned up and the yard looking pretty again.
Thanks Dan. I wasn't sure if a fail would be received well, but there have been very supportive comments like yours. Much appreciated! -Ed
My 3 point hitch stump grinder would have it gone in under 30 minutes
Please keep up the great videos
in hindsight, that would’ve been a better option! Thanks so much for watching.
I dug one out by hand when I was 20. It was 34” across, I expected shallow roots, but I was wrong. Two full days with a axe, pick and a shovel, and I had a hole 10 across, 8’ deep. Finally pulled it out with the tractor. It was a great feeling once gone. But what a ridiculous amount of energy burned. You will figure it out, thanks for sharing.
Man you’re like an archeologist! 😄
You say, it was "a ridiculous amount of energy burned." I hear "It was great exercise."
@@Kaelland it truly was, and the feeling of accomplishment was huge. But also had just over a mile of fence to build that summer. However, every day ended on the patio seeing the unobstructed landscape off my patio.
@@Kaelland it truly was, and the feeling of accomplishment was huge. But also had just over a mile of fence to build that summer. However, every day ended on the patio seeing the unobstructed landscape off my patio.
What did you do with it? I think it is best to have it ground-off, or cut it off as low as possible and burry it. It is an eyesore to have a pile of stumps in the corner of the property, and they don't burn well.
A+ for effort! Some stumps are nearly impossible to remove with a tractor. I dug on the one in my backyard 3 different times over a year before finally getting it out. That stump definitely hadn’t deteriorated much for 10 years. At least you had some tractor time!
Thanks, Ben! Those stumps are amazing. But then again, so are trees!
@@MyClutteredGarage nature is amazing. If you notice a tree has more roots on the opposite side of a lean to make them more stable. Also in the direction they encounter the most wind the have more roots. It’s crazy a plant knows what it needs to do to survive.
Ending should of been "Sometimes the only thing you can do is Burn It" 😂🤣😂
Walk away. Sometimes that is the best advice. And then jump back at it !
It's okay Ed, it isn't the size of the mess, it's the success of the project and you're in good hands with the Kubota. Very good video, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Mike. And I can use the Kubota to fix my mess 👍😄
From a fellow B2601 owner - never give up!
The roots look like they are bleeding…great Friday date night horror movie…‘The Bleeding Stump’ ! Colleen and I loved this video. Keep working it and don’t get stumped…teehee
As dry as the ground is, those roots are still holding moisture!
I sold my stump bucket and bought a woodland mills stump grinder, best decision I could have made. Makes getting rid of stumps so much easier and faster.
The stump bucket has its place, but I sure would like a stump grinder too!
Not sure what to say Ed. You gave it your best shot. Maybe a backhoe or a stick of dynamite, LoL. I've got a huge dying Pine Tree in my front yard I need to get removed. Nice thing about Pi e is, the roots don't normally grow so deep but the root diameter might be 10 - 15 around the tree. I also think hardwoods especially Oak and Hickory, their root balls can be extremely deep. I'll have to get me a stump bucket for my loader as I don't have a backhoe either.
Thanks, Dean. These compact tractors can do a lot… but not everything!
To paraphrase Dirty Harry, "A man's gotta know his tractor's limitations". Now you have a reason to buy a stump grinder!
Great video. Superb driving and manipulating that loader with the stump bucket Ed. I’m in your corner bud. I’ve made quite a mess with my B2601 with backhoe trying similar stumps. I have resigned myself that if they are to big….leave them alone or slowly chip away at the exposed stumps. Lately, Mother Nature has been helping me out with high winds blowing the dead Ash over and pulling the root ball out of the ground. Stay safe. See you Monday nights live stream!
Thanks much! I did kind of make a mess 😄
Sometimes you gotta walk away. Sometimes you gotta get the stump grinder out 👍. That was quite a large stump to try and tackle with that stump bucket. I’ve tried a few smaller stumps with the same stump bucket only to arrive at your same conclusion 🤷♂️.
Another Great vidio Ed, but come on buddy! I am fortunate to have a BH92 BACKHOE ,but l would of taken on this stump with a sharp spud bar ,axe ,shovel or dynamite before slapping on the "miracle wonder device" on my tractor. I really think the "anti-high-leverage" apparatus's are made for your horsepower divided by ten to the inch-- in your case 2.6 inches or maybe a 3 inch trunk. Sure was a LOT of straining & howling for the tractor. Great words of wisdom on the "fail" at the end. Thanks for the great Video Sir and happy safe landscaping.
Thanks very much, Donald. So many lessons to learn 😄
@@MyClutteredGarage So much work&fun out there to achieve, we need each other to learn valuable lessons from. Nothing ventured-Nothing gained.Thanks again for your experience.
Ed, I will have to say that was a valiant effort. You stood that Kubota up on two legs and went for it. Amazing how long roots will last but treated lumber will rot on your deck!! You and Brock coordinate stump videos? 🤣
Haha! Did he publish one today too?
That was certainly one stubborn stump!
Indeed, Chad!
You have not been defeated, tomorrow’s another day, stay positive.
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m not sure if I have anything constructive to add. My approach would be a stump grinder. I have a 24” and also a backhoe on a 32 hp unit. If I really wanted it gone I would probably have gone the couple miles to my local rental and got an excavator. At closer to 80 than 70 I don’t feel the need to prove anything. I have 2 maples much larger than your stump, plus a couple 24-26” spruce stumps to introduce to my grinder. No need for total removal in my case. Too hot to dance with right now! I do enjoy your videos. I too have to store my “equipment” outside, I try to keep most of the tractors inside. Too many tractors or too few buildings? Chicken or egg thing?
Thank you Stanley. You clearly come from a place of wisdom and experience! I appreciate your kind support. -Ed
Just like the other people said. A backhoe is the best way. Or maybe a stump grinder.
Helpful to leave 3 to 4 feet of stump out of ground it gives to lots of leverage
I have used a sawsall a few time’s to cut roots.
Haven’t got a stump bucket yet, still shopping for the best one at the best price.
area looks like would support a campfire on top of stump. 😀
Thought about it! 😄
That is actually a workable idea 💡. A pretty good one, I might add
I recently cleared the roots and stumps to prep the area for both a small orchard and garden. I did with B2601 with nachos. The area originally the home to 2 pine trees and an oak tree. The stumps had been approximately 100ft plus tall and a minimum of 24 to 30 inches tall. I had the stumps ground leaving the roots to deal with.
It took a total of 15 engine hours fully prep the area including leveling putting 6 inches of topsoil to prep for planting . The area is approximately 900sq ft.
The roots went to the transfer station in 3 pickup truck loads.
My suggestion to rid yourself of the stump is rent an excavator. It will make short work of that vexing stump.
That may be the trick! Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had quite the project!
I think you should call the Navy and give them the coordinates. Have them run a fire mission from the New Jersey battle ship. That will get that stump. Not sure what to do about the impact craters... we will deal with that later. Fire for effect!!!
My wife asked me if I had any dynamite 🧨 🤣
This really makes the stump grinder look good. You could have ground it in 30 minutes and not destroyed a yard
I agree! The stump bucket is super handy for smaller stumps and for digging small holes, but this stump was too big.
Thanks Ed. I think you were wise to walk away. I got my stump wrecker (GWT) and thought I could dig up anything. That’s when I learned to use cave man techniques and burn out those nasty critters. Either drill 1” holes or use a chainsaw to cut slots around the the center and light it off with diesel with a wee bit of gasoline mixed in. I got holes in the ground that I had to go looking for dirt to fill in with. CZcams has plenty of ideas.
That was a lot of tree for a small tractor but I would have tried as well. lol.
Live and learn, right?!
If that is an oak stump, there will be a tap root going straight down into the ground 4 to 6 feet. Not to discourage you, but it may require bigger equipment to dislodge that beast!
Oh I agree. It’s a persimmon tree stump, but I’m wondering if it has a significant tap root. If so, I’m dead in the water with this small machine! Thanks for watching!
Well may need a little time and a chain saw on outer roots to soften it up for removal - ( saw one former "Spec Ops" put a little surprise up under the center - impressive launch. ).
Back in the day, you could just buy dynamite at the HW store and blow a few stumps. It’s really fun if you aren’t close to stuff sensitive to vibration or having a stump land on it. I’m working on a ripper now out of 1/2” steel. I have a BX and it needs a very small contact point to be effective.
Hi ED... I had a stump the same as you, the trees been gone for years... ended up digging a 5' deep trench all around, turned out I missed one root going straight down on the bottom under all that tree, it was so solid of a root, love my backhoe, keep at her I took me about three days of frustration... but I got her out...
I was thinking there may be a big tap root holding it solid!
Let me know when you want me to bring over the L3301 with the BH77! We can get that bad boy out of there!!!
Thanks Phil. That might do the trick!
I have never seen anyone dump the dug up dirt on top of the stump they’re trying to remove. Of course you can’t see your objective, you have all the dirt piled on it! But you had the right idea towards the end, work around the stump to get at the root system.
I have a stump grinder now 👍
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I also have a stump bucket and to be honest it’s made for very small stumps, also it’s probably the worst attachment that I have for my LX2610, no vision of what you are doing and I find it puts a lot of stress on m’y front loader.
I think the stump bucket has its place, just not for large stumps like this. Thanks!
I had 2 stump about same sizes. I dug them up with the loader all around then took the sawsall and cut the roots all around then used the loader to pushed on the stumps and they came after s while. It was not easy. I had a guy to give me an estimate to removed them and it was 1,400. No way i was paying that much.
Yeah we’d let it rot before paying that much. 😄
I attack the larger roots with a Sawsall. Then dig a big enough hole to push the stump over and ether break or cut the tap root. Some times it is more then a one day job.
It may help to dump your dirt off to the side so you can see where the roots are. I've got the artillian 24in bucket. I've removed a lot of stumps with it however haven't tried one that size.
Thank you CW!
I think a sawsall would have helped after you exposed the larger roots.
Like others said, seems you may be dealing with a large tap root. The pines down here in GA have massive tap roots, 4’-5’ deep, as big around as the tree trunk. Only way I’ve been able to remove them is to dig a deep hole right up to one side of it with my lx2610, then pull it that direction with a winch. Even then it’s a trial and error process. Dig down, pull, if it doesn’t move repeat. I’ve had holes 4’ deep before it budged.
Yikes! Well you’ve got to figure it takes a lot to hold up a tree!
I would try chainsaw
Not good on the blade and if that don’t work
Try Dynamite or call Mike Morgan to blast it out 😂
Look forward to part 2 or part 3
Don’t be a quitter !
Phil
Blasting would be fun!
Try the burn barrel first and then try to dig it up.
Well you gave it a good try I think The problem is The Tractor is too small to do that kind of work maybe if you put a stump grinder on the back of your tractor it would work but I don’t know if your tractor is big enough but great try what is a good video 👍
Thanks Dean. I think you're right!
I can't help but wonder if the Good Works Tractors stump bucket might have been more helpful here. Not that it would have done any better at ripping out the roots than the Artillian bucket. But the attachment plate on the GWT bucket is solid, which means that you can also use it as a dozer blade. So, it can be used to push a lot of that loose dirt out of the way so you can see your work area better.
But that thick root at that one side won't be your last hurdle here. Persimmon trees have strong tap roots. You're probably not going to be able to break it off very easily.
I was thinking there may be a tap root. In which case, I’ll never get it out with a compact tractor! Thank you.
@@MyClutteredGarage If you have a backhoe, you may be able to dig around it enough to cut the taproot with a chainsaw and then fill the hole back in.
But it would probably be faster and easier to rent a stump grinder and just grind the stump down.
Never give up. You can do it. Just keep at it Clean around it with a shovel and get carpenters type scroll saw at it I know you will get it done
Thanks. Piece by piece!
I always wondered if heavy trencher would do much or the work of cutting some of these big roots. Are the power enough to saw through this wood? then you could have a better chance of getting the stump out or at least very least
Try to make a rhino root ripper. Love it on my b2601.
Ouch....Your efforts look really hard on the poor tractor. Maybe it's time to find an alternative before it gets really expensive. Doubt your insurance will pay for another bent loader arm.
Too hot for that hand shovel... walk right back to the shed and place the shovel down....step away. I had the same issue with a mammoth stump... I piled all the brush on it and had a great brush fire... stump was gone
Sounds like a better solution!
Interesting video as always.
But maybe in this case, the backhoe attachment would of been more anventagious for this job????
Well we all get stumped at times. This just happens to be your turn! Build a hill now! Sorry Ed.
Haha! Thanks Martin!
Take a sawzall and cut the exposed roots really works well for me
Good thinking!
Personally, I (step-1) tend to cut them as low as possible with a chain saw, then I (step-2) get the largest and longest drill bit I have and I drill the stump full of holes, then I (step-3) throw dirt over the stump and the surrounding area so I can mow, then (step-4) forgetaboutit. 🤣
That could work!
Plunge cuts with a chainsaw also help. Any artificial fissure to make surface area for bacteria (or fire) to do their thing.
It seems like it should have worked. AND you move the camera around alot and your editing is smooth! Comment: you said, "no budgey budgey!" 😒
THAT ending kinda made me teary 😢...you are very deep, Eddie!
Keep after it! Get under it and put a bottle Jack under it and lift it out. Eventually it’ll “pop” and loosen the rootball enough and you’ll get your satisfaction!
Might help if we weren’t in a heat wave! Nothing is fun! 😄
Looks more like a sapling bucket not a stump bucket.
Well, smaller stumps than this one for sure! But it's a handy attachment!
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You have not been defeated, tomorrow’s another day, stay positive.
Way to much stress for the return!!! The wrong tool for the job.
True. Much bigger machine needed!
rent a stump grinder.
Embarrassing. No way I would’ve posted this video.
The good, the bad, and the ugly. All worth sharing. Thanks for watching. 👍
It's a good example that things don't always work out, doesn't mean you can't show it.
You’ll never succeed if you don’t try.
Nothing embarrassing about this effort at all.
Being a B2601 owner, I was just concerned about your loader.
You don’t need a third one. 🫣🥰
Keep them coming Ed.
Great effort, Ed! I’ve tried to dig up big stumps with my backhoe that I was SURE they must be rotted out after many years. Nope. Like your Persimmon tree, those stumps were still surprisingly solid below ground. You’ll need a bigger machine for this one, my friend. Thanks for sharing!