I'm from Ireland. One of the worst curses that could be used here was "The curse of Cromwell on you!"/"Mallacht Chrombhéil ort!" His memory was still hated up to the 1950s. However his attack on the town of Drogheda, though ruthless, involved the slaughter mostly of his enemies from England, who had fled to that town. The brave defence of the town of Clonmel impressed Cromwell so much that he agreed to allow the native defenders march to the coast and thereafter to France following their surrender. PS "Cromwell" is in fact a gaelic name ie "Crom-bhéal" meaning "Turned-down mouth" referring to a "Turned-down Mustache" probably.
Christmas was banned in Scotland from 1640, before Cromwell did, until 1958 (nineteen fifty eight). When i was a child elderly relations talked about going to school on Christmas Day
Have you not over done this. There's a lot of revisionism in relation to Ireland. Cromwell did not outdo the 30 years war and did you miss out the small point of parts of Ireland holding out for the King or Irelands part in the civil war? Did Parliament go there without cause? Very Manchster Guardian.
The Republic of England should be the proper title! 'Britain' did not exist as a politicl entity until Scotland was forced into 'Union' in 1707. England is not Britain but but a nation in the British Isles along with three others who have separate histories, identities and languages. Cymru am byth!
@@williamhaines7876 So there was a plebiscite was there? Or just a vote for the ruling elite? If there had been a referendum then the union would have been halted. Scotland was brought into union for empire, not altruism or any of the other nonsense spouted by the British state & its minions. They didn't as so often lied about bail Scotland out, they offered money lost by the elites in the Darien scheme as an effective bribe to accept union & access to empire. They took it & subsequently Scotland played a disproportionately large role in empire, for all the good it did for the ordinary citizens of this whole island & beyond.
Scotland was certainly not forced into 'Union' or anything else in 1707 . That is a myth which the Scots have enjoyed whinging about ever since. You will find that actually the Scottish nobles and Scottish power brokers involved were more than happy and willing to sign the documents , join the union and even happier still to take the large sums of money they pocketed in the process ( sound particularly 'patriotic' to you by the way...?) . To put it bluntly , at the time Scotland needed us and the union much more than we needed them and the union. They are the facts. Do the research. England forever !
It was theocratic military junta not a republic. It was governed by a fundamentalist military purged legislature that governed subject to the de facto veto of a fanatical military council and then a military dictator for life in Cromwell. If Brits saw this happen in any other country they would label it as such.
I'm from Ireland.
One of the worst curses that could be used here was "The curse of Cromwell on you!"/"Mallacht Chrombhéil ort!"
His memory was still hated up to the 1950s. However his attack on the town of Drogheda, though ruthless, involved the slaughter mostly of his enemies from England, who had fled to that town. The brave defence of the town of Clonmel impressed Cromwell so much that he agreed to allow the native defenders march to the coast and thereafter to France following their surrender.
PS "Cromwell" is in fact a gaelic name ie "Crom-bhéal" meaning "Turned-down mouth" referring to a "Turned-down Mustache" probably.
Or grouch... Lol
Please try and defend "To hell or to Connaught" now. Revisionist nonsense
Christmas was banned in Scotland from 1640, before Cromwell did, until 1958 (nineteen fifty eight). When i was a child elderly relations talked about going to school on Christmas Day
Couldn't get out of my mind that the author sounded like Elizabeth 1st from Blackadder
Great program but way too many commercial interruptions. A commercial break literally every 3-4 minutes makes for an unpleasant listening experience.
Really?… I only had 2 commercials Tbf 🤷♂️
You can listen on Spotify or other podcast provider and only have a couple
I would swear they add an advert as soon as you are not looking at the screen. Big brother is watching.
I'm in Great Britain - I didn't notice any ad breaks. Maybe CZcams handles adverts differently in different countries?
That's CZcams doing. Not the podcasters
The only sad thing that I've heard here today is that Tom Holand is a loyal reader of The Guardian!
Poor, poor you.
Great episode!
I’m a new subscriber to the channel. Tom, Dom and their guests are incredibly entertainig. 😊
Honestly a cromwellian hereditary republic would look a lot like the United Provinces with the stadtholder
Came here to try and find out what happend to the nobility during the time of the republic.
A large part of the nobility had supported the Parliament side in the war.
Ooo I'm in!
As Lenin grasped ; in 1917 most people want peace and bread .
Have you not over done this. There's a lot of revisionism in relation to Ireland. Cromwell did not outdo the 30 years war and did you miss out the small point of parts of Ireland holding out for the King or Irelands part in the civil war? Did Parliament go there without cause? Very Manchster Guardian.
The Republic of England should be the proper title! 'Britain' did not exist as a politicl entity until Scotland was forced into 'Union' in 1707. England is not Britain but but a nation in the British Isles along with three others who have separate histories, identities and languages. Cymru am byth!
England and Scotland were officially unified together as one country from 1657 until the restoration.
I would suggest doing some research into the settlement and maybe you will be surprised at Scotlands willingness to unite with England
@@williamhaines7876 So there was a plebiscite was there? Or just a vote for the ruling elite? If there had been a referendum then the union would have been halted. Scotland was brought into union for empire, not altruism or any of the other nonsense spouted by the British state & its minions. They didn't as so often lied about bail Scotland out, they offered money lost by the elites in the Darien scheme as an effective bribe to accept union & access to empire. They took it & subsequently Scotland played a disproportionately large role in empire, for all the good it did for the ordinary citizens of this whole island & beyond.
Scotland was certainly not forced into 'Union' or anything else in 1707 .
That is a myth which the Scots have enjoyed whinging about ever since. You will find that actually the Scottish nobles and Scottish power brokers involved were more than happy and willing to sign the documents , join the union and even happier still to take the large sums of money they pocketed in the process ( sound particularly 'patriotic' to you by the way...?) . To put it bluntly , at the time Scotland needed us and the union much more than we needed them and the union.
They are the facts. Do the research.
England forever !
It was theocratic military junta not a republic. It was governed by a fundamentalist military purged legislature that governed subject to the de facto veto of a fanatical military council and then a military dictator for life in Cromwell. If Brits saw this happen in any other country they would label it as such.
Sunak is not a Muslim....he is a Hindu
What were the names of the two books mentioned, please?
1984 and a brave new world.
Restless Republic was the history book mentioned (Anna Keay)
The historical novel mentioned earlier was An Instance of The Fingerpost by Ian Pears
Better than the muslim hand we have now
Fascinating subject, but the sound quality is so bad that I cannot bear to listen to the whole episode -it's just too much of an effort.
Is it that bad?
It’s not as if you are listening to an orchestra.