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This seems to symbolize an abusive relationship. Obey, and things and he treats you nicer and things are clear, but he/she controls you. Disobey and he/she abuses you but the world becomes more colorful and you can eventually escape him/her.
Now that you say that... kinda seems that way.
That's exactly what I was thinking throughout the video. I noticed the colors right away, but I noticed their absence during the second try of the game. When you have to obey, even if it kills you from the inside, you close your eyes in front of other possible opportunities and push yourself away from the beauty of this world, especially when you are in an unhealthy relationship. It chains and blinds you, thinking that if you disobey you will hurt and lose your so-called "loved" one. It's toxic. You know how they say - love can be poisonous at some extends.
I agree, it really seems to be the meaning
That's exactly it. I played it shortly after I got out of an abusive relationship and it is almost scary how much the dialogue mirrors a real abusive relationship.
im guessing all of you are super edgy and have been in an abusive relationship or know someone thats has...😂
It's a story about an abusive relationship; when they call you a man at the end, they're giving you praise so you don't run away. The coin at the end is your small reward, which stops you from questioning them just a bit longer. It's about them controlling you and trying to make it sound okay because they "love" you, and they "praise" you for doing as they ask.
That's exactly what I thought.
Serenity2254 that's exactly what I was thinking.
The second they punished you for disobeying and asked it you were excited or frightened...
that's messed up D:
Even if it hurts or nearly kills you. That's also why the world gets more colorful the more you disobey, you're seeing the world for yourself.
"You can't just call someone ugly and disgusting and expect them to stay"
Tell that to my friend's boyfriend
I know it's a year late, but I hope your friends in a better place now
Comicat I hope so too
7Andrew still probably shouldn’t say it tho... whether he meant it or not, it’s still cruel and can get to someone’s head the more a person says that
@7Andrew never defend abusive behavior x
@7Andrew personally, i think that if he said it without meaning it then it simply means he does not care about ur feelings. Sometimes he may think it's a small thing or a joke but u never know, it's still a toxic behaviour that makes ppl feel bad about themselves
I think this is a metaphor for an abusive relationship...
When Mark played it the first time he got the 'good' ending; that is, he escaped the abuser (the voice/other person).
The second one is actually the 'bad' ending; you submit to the abuser and stay with them, following their commands and getting their praise, but it wont last. This is the 'honeymoon period' of the abuse; everything seems hunky-dory, but it's actually just the build up to the next incident. This is a very clever way to illustrate the situation from the victim's point of view (if that was the intent and i'm not just reading too far into it)
When you ask to be taught to play, you are denied. When you do not follow orders/fail, you are berated. I can't help but notice how the insults are aimed directly at you; not the way your playing. If you continually disobey everything starts to fall apart in the world. Signifying the decay of the abuser's hold over you/the character perhaps. And I can't help but take notice of that question... "Do I own your body or mind?" Abusers believe they own their victims, or that their protecting them (depends on the circumstances) this is clearly an abuser telling you that they own you in some capacity, they're demanding confirmation from you; making you tell them they own you, even if it's only part of you.
And notice you only get the option to leave if you disobey; you realize the person who claims to love you is an absolute pile of shite and you leave, not allowing them to drag you into another honeymoon period.
But even if you follow their instructions to a T, nothing will change in the long run. They were exited that you were scared of them; if you are scared they have more control over you, and you won't disobey if you are scared of the consequences.
Overall this game is actually very creepy, but a wonderful metaphor. This is very well made! And sorry for writing an essay, I had a lot of thoughts I wanted to get out. But I thank you if you actually took the time to read all this! ^-^
(and if anyone is concerned, I appreciate it but no, I am not/have not been in an abusive relationship myself, I do take psychology classes though and I just got through the section on abuse.)
Grace Daniel everyone thinks it's a abusive relationship, you're not the only one with a big paragraph of why it is that.
I tip my hat to thee, madame
I have been through it more than once and yes I can confirm you’re right. I couldn’t watch the video all the way through.
I’m actually really surprised that you haven’t been in a relationship like this. You know so much haha. I was stuck in a relationship like this with a very bad person and I can say that this pretty accurately describes it. Thank you for giving more insight to your point of view though!
@@cowabanger want makes u fall in love with that person to begin with.
this game is supposed to represent an abusive relationship. the commands, the insults, the "i will forgive you if you do this", etc.
amy mccormick that's what I thought, I was like yelling at Mark
amy mccormick that's what I thought too it is pretty obvious
amy mccormick I also see this as society, especially the girl/boy thing.
okokok maybe I'm weird, but I think the idea of a *VERBALLY* abusive relationship is kinda hot. Well, then again I'm also in to hardcore bdsm LMao
same I like controlling relationships yikes I'm fucked up😂
That moment when Mark is all "you can't call someone disgusting and expect them to stay," and you just start crying and you wanna hug him and just be like "I'm so happy no one made you think that was ok, I am still getting used to the idea that I'm a person."
Depends on the interpretation of the game. Personally I think it's either about a BDSM dom/sub relationship or an abusive parental relationship. If it is about the dom/sub thing, then that's perfectly acceptable, but otherwise, you're right. Everything in the game points very strongly towards it being one of those, and only one or two lines create the question of which one it is. It's ambivalent because of the "are you a boy? No, you're a man" line, because there's only one fairly niche scenario I can imagine where that would come up in a BDSM relationship, whereas it's definitely something even an abusive parent might say. But the line about "we're going to meet soon, are you excited or fearful?" points away from it being a parental thing, because generally kids live with their parents. The only scenario I can think of where that would fit is if the parents were divorced and the kid was set to visit the abusive one.
I don't believe the game fits the idea of just a standard abusive boyfriend/girlfriend relationship very well at all. It's almost definitely one of the two I said.
Mark seems to have a very consistently kind-hearted mindset, where the mistreating of (or the option to mistreat) someone in any way in a game like this comes as a complete shock to him. It seems like it actually disgusts him. I think it's an extremely attractive quality about him~. x3
It's also open to be interpreted about transgender people being "shut down" (for lack of better phrasing) by their parents (the "are you a boy or a girl?" "no, you are *opposite*" part). When you disobey the voice, the world starts getting more colorful, more happy-feeling, and the statues/spikes/shuriken-thingys stay as colored blocks. If you follow the voice, though, it stays black and white, and you see the dangers as barbs and stuff, but it also seems more orderly. I don't think it really seems like a BDSM relationship, but the abusive relationship thing does seem quite possible as well. I don't have any experience with that idea, though, so I'm not sure how someone who has experienced that type of relationship would view it.
Oh wow... I didn't even get that... but now that I think of it, it totally makes sense...
This is something I've been going through for a while but luckily my parents don't judge me.
What a Tumblr sjw ass comment.
I've been looking through the comments but there's one thing I haven't seen mentioned and I feel like it deserves some attention.
Yes, this game is clearly about an abusive relationship of sorts. If you obey, the world gets easier to see and understand. Things become clearer, you earn praise, and the game is given a more proper ending.
But what about the colored pixels that made their appearance in the disobeying route? I believe that this has more meaning to it rather than being a consequence. The world gets harder to read, but color becomes more and more prevalent as you go. It's scattered and it's jarring, but it's there nonetheless.
The 'easiest' way to go through an abusive relationship is to do what you're told without question. Even if it's harmful, it avoids conflict and makes it easier to go through the motions. But in a world where you don't make any of your own choices, is there truly any color? Is it worth it to spend your life in black and white for the sake of avoiding conflict and making the person who 'loves' you happy?
Or, would you rather choose your own path? Disobey and live life the way you want to. It can be hard to make it through an abusive relationship in this way, but at the very least you are still your own person. The world, your life, is your own. There is still color there.
I don't know, I just thought that was sort of interesting. I'm not sure if I got my point across, but hopefully you can make sense of my 2 AM rambling.
That's deep
Woah.
Ghost I thought of it also as symbolizing independence and being different.
Ghost yo
I don't as waiting for someone to say it
...this made me realise how vulnerable I would be to an abusive relationship.
I've been in a toxic friendship before, believing I loved that friend, and stayed for a grand total of 8 months before I realised she was bad news.
I'm very gullible, I crave praise, am a people pleaser, and would do anything to make the people I care for stay. Not to mention the terrible anxiety and already bad self image.
...God. I'd be easy bait for manipulation. I've been through it once but...true love corrupts absolutely-even if it's not true.
This is very late Ik. But in a way I’m pretty similar. I would absolutely find a way to get out of it if you end up in one and would need to call someone, whether it be a close friend, trusted adult, parent, whoever. But I do understand that at first, it’s hard to realize you’re in an abusive relationship.
Same. Now I get paranoid when I’ve done something wrong even when it’s just a small thing. I legit would do anything to make the people I cate about stay. And I even have anxiety and low self esteem. I hate myself so much but I still seem to worry about others
DaVinCi_ You know we’re very much alike in that way. I’ve had some rough friendships in the past. Now I have one who is amazing and I never ever want to lose no matter what. I also have struggles on self love and self worth and all that. But I think it’s important to know that even when we all have those days, we are worthy and we are valid and there are people who do love us. (I know it’s so much harder to believe that. I struggle with it a lot myself.)
I'm exactly the same.
You’re twelve, you don’t know what a relationship is
"I used to think being alone was the worst thing in the world... No, its being with people who make you feel alone..." Robin Williams.
People who can do that for you are rare in this world and likely only to be found once in a lifetime, keep them close.
Vanessa The Narcoblix
Most of them are men... Men who would help and fight for your honor... I will only have male friends... No girlfriends, no wives... I will not allow a female to get close... I will not be betrayed, at all.
I think it is a bit insensitive to assume letting a female close will automatically mean betrayal and that never letting one get close will prevent it. Of course, it's your life and you're free to do as you please, I just think that both men and women have to capacity to be caring just as they have the capacity to do harm.
Luvstys
Females more than men... Last time I checked, terrorists aren't to be negotiated with...
in my experience, i have been wronged by people of all genders, but betrayed mostly by men. yet i still have men im friends/associate with. assuming half the population will leave u soonest chance they get is kinda insensitive. i mean, u do u, but i cant help but wonder what has led u to this ideal?
I feel like this game is about an abusive relationship, and the voice is the abuser. But im only 5 minutes in, so im not sure.
Piemaker2728 no, it is kind of like that throughout the whole game
Yeah, I thought the same thing
You're saying that markiplier is an abusive girl? or a boy?
it pretty much is, this game is so deep like damn
Piemaker2728 that's what I thought too
I think this game is supposed to be about abuse, because if you disobey, you continue to see the truth, but when you obey, what the game is saying becomes the truth.
(0:03) Mark: I am a man-
Me: *WITH FIVE OVENS!*
Ah, yes memories
"Beg for me" Well this game took an unexpected kinky turn I would say
LOL
ZackRToler I love your profile pic!
i think the "do i own your body? or your mind?" was the real kinky part
ya
lol ikr
I feel like this game is a big metaphor for emotional abuse and manipulation/being controlled by someone
For example: The more you obey the narrator you get praised, and praised, and you know what everything is, but it's nothing but black and white, and frankly boring. But when you disobey or make a mistake, you get punished/insulted/degraded and everything, but its colorful, and you dont really have a detailed look at what everything is, but it's colorful and pretty. To the point where it could be a little overwhelming.
Another way it could be a metaphor for is the beginning, and whenever you can have a choice.
You choose to be a boy, you have to be a girl, if you choose to be a girl, you're a boy. They narrator makes it seem like you have a choice, to make you feel welcomed, but you dont actually have that power, and everything is decided for you.
The Saxophone God ,took the words out of my mouth
This metaphor of yours described me, from the very start to the end, but when someone makes mistake in my _'game'_ I do not insult them directly, but more cast them away and down them to show them they have done something that doesn't appeal to me.
I manipulate people, my best of friends while everything seems like a game... A game I must win and have power over everybody.
Hello Eff off geez
The way you described it sounds like life as a child
Hello Eff off Woah that’s pretty scary😶
The way that he says “I’m an idiot” when he almost failed really got me because when you don’t obey you get insulted so even when you do obey you get insulted none the less wether it’s that person or yourself. It’s a double edged sword
First thing I thought this game was about before reading the comments was abuse. I'm pretty sure this is a popular theory already but when you go through the game disobeying you DO escape, but your mind becomes more clouded with PTSD and/or guilt for the other person, especially if they did love you. But when you obey, the reason why the abuser is doing this become clearer, you start to understand more, but one detail people didn't realise. Things in the game get more detail, more understanding of the situation, but in both endings, the character is still left with no detail in themselves. No understanding of self-identity because they are so absorbed in the partner. It's hard to recover from that kind of thing.
you see how mark got happier the more he obeyed and how the other person showed more detail to the world, so mark became dependent on the maker so he could see the world the way it should be. but if he disobeyed, the maker would degrade him and keep him from seeing world in the detail that he did. this is fucking deep man
Rylee Rigby i would’ve done it like just what felt right or wrong...like the “dont touch the statue” one I would’ve touched it but only so i would get the checkpoint
That's fucked up. PERIOD
Look i really don't know if you are spoiling the mood or not, but hey, you got a point though!
I'm 14, and that's deep...
Dude..
The message was clear to me from the beginning. Being called your opposite gender is an insult to some. Which is why he says “no you’re a girl.” He acts like a dominant ruling force.
When you disobey you earn an insult and the creature grows anxious even further, thus the colored blocks appearing. It shows an abusive relationship where the creature withdraws and chooses to no longer submit itself to torment, but suffers from fear.
Ultimately you must decide whether to leave or stay
When you obey the creature is throwing itself into danger to feel loved by the narrator. Things become clear through trust but the creature is challenged to see reality at the same time.
He complements you because he got what he wanted.
It shows the lengths someone will go to feel love, and symbolizes an abusive relationship, which is heartbreaking
estoy en desacuerdo con la primera sentencia. cuando mark elige ser mujer, le responde que es un chico, pero al final le dice que es un hombre. no lo veo como un mero insulto, sino que está negando su identidad sexual
oh man, thats deep..
సత్య ॐ
Sentencia means sentence as in condemning, the word you were looking for is oración.
oof
Wow
That's not *LOVE* . That's *POSSESSION* .
Being called "Good Boy"?
Own *YOU* ???
The Heck
kinky
Agreed- that’s not okay in anyway-
Like a pet...
@@moodymoosh that bothered me…like I’m some obedient animal? I’m a person, not a thing….
@@CaLypSO4456 yea
I get that this can be viewed as an abusive relationship where dominance is put into place and the player is a role of the relationship and is told who they are and what to do and are shunned and detached from the world and reality as well as being verbally degraded if they do not follow orders, but if they follow orders they are shown the world in better detail. This is somehow what some would call a “loving relationship” and eventually the player would take the compliments and feel loved rather then disobeying in fear of being degraded and disciplined.
However, I also feel this game reflects society’s expectations and standards in particular cases. Some are told who they should be and what they should do to fit in, if they do what they’re told they get to become a part of the popular people and those who are looked up to and get to look down at the world in a new light. However, if they do not listen they are isolated and shunned for not obeying. They are practically isolated and become invisible and a part of the shadows, a blur.
The people who obey society’s standards are “loved”.
The people who don’t are not.
However no matter who you are and what you do, you ARE loved.
This is just my thoughts of this, a theory in a way.
If you read this thank you. Have a nice day guys!
I got so upset when he got excited over being called a good boy because that's another thing that abusive relationships will do. Mental manipulation right there.
This game gives me chills with all the deeper meaning behind everything
Musical Trash also wanted to point how he even started insulting himself every time he made a mistake he’d call himself an idiot or another name and got really disappointed
I use some of that trick myself on my parents. Works pretty much all the time which is why I have good perks.
When this was uploaded I was worried this game would strike a chord with Mark. Concidering a past relationship of his
@@DannyRoyalty3 that's awful
"Are you a man or a woman?"
*2016 nervously sweating*
•Lyna• 😂 true 😂
lmao
True
you forgot *attack helicopter*
LMAO, so true.😂
At the end, you get a single coin.
Just let that sink in.
I know everyone already understands what this game is about, but at the very end of the submissive route, after you have killed yourself, forced yourself to remain completely still, basically lived for someone else's orders, they decide to give you a single coin.
In most games, coins are used to buy things from a store, or are used to get a bigger score, something like that to make your overall ending better. They are used, usually in great amounts, to upgrade the character, or to gain a better outcome, or something like that.
But this game doesn't have a store.
It doesn't have a score.
The ending shows how, after all the horrible and degrading things the abuser has done to you, you could be given something that has literally no value, no matter how you look at it, and you would be happy, simply because you were rewarded.
Even the rewards in the game show another way of abuse.
this is so damn deep
‘You don’t call someone ugly and disgusting and expect them to stay’
mark
thank you.
Excited or frightened? " How about.... Exfrightened?"
-Markiplier 2017
Animeniac Simey *2016
Animeniac Simey this came out in 2016
I only came down here for this comment
I legit was thinking the same thing before Markiplier said it.
i saw this commit right after it played one here
I found this game about 3 or 4 years ago when I was still in an abusive relationship. Don't be afraid to leave or cut someone out of your life. They will make you think that you can't live without them and that you're nothing, but that's not true.
It may be hard trying to leave and it might even take some time to do so, but you can do it. You can find solace in people who do care and love you. Not someone who masks their toxic and abusive behavior in faux love.
It's hard, yes, but you are strong and can make it through. Your abuser is wrong when they say you're an ugly creature or you're disgusting.
You're wonderful and beautiful in your own way and they can't take that from you.
Please don't give up, you'll find a way out eventually.
I'm living the same thing with my parents.
However I learned not to care and pretend.
After I get a stable job. I'm never coming back!
Good for you! I did the same! The last time I saw my biological father, I told him that if he ever touched me again, I'd call the police. The abusive nasty fuck looked scared of me, hah. It took years to get to that point, and I put up with it, doing what I could with an impossible situation but now he's gone from my life forever :D
+zera0820 my family had to threaten my papa, inorder, to get him to leave. He stalked us after awhile and broke into our house, and I had defend my mama and call the police, bravest moment in my life. We just have to remember to be brave, and we'll survive😌👍.
sillygabbs It's those moments that are important to remember - even if you put up with a lot, you also fought him!!! Sorry that he was so scary :/ Glad that it worked out in the end for you and your mom!!
Aura The Lilligant Princess
Low key reminded of this guy I dated. He called me ugly, manipulated me, told me he’s the best I could get, and said he tried to give me the world but I didn’t deserve it yet, and I stayed. Emotionally abusive people are still abusing you even if they don’t lay a hand on you. This game hit me hard yo...
Captain Wyvern yes I’m in a much better place. Thankyou❤️
I really like this game. It's so interesting. Just they way everything gets darker, the more you listen. Everything gets brighter, the more free you are. You become dependent, on this "character". They build you up, and if you fail, they break you all the way down.
this game is a clear representation of an abusive relationship. When you mess up they call you terrible names and try to get under your skin. When you do something good they treat you like an animal and will at times say "good boy" or "good girl". The victim is confused and lost. They want to be loved and will clearly do anything for it. even if it means hurting themsleves for the others affection. I love how this game depeicts this problem that many people do not know of. I hope more games of this topic are made to spread awareness.
omg i never even thought about that....
Yeah it's kinda making me second guess my relationship.. but.. then I remember my control kink and stuff like that and understand he's never hurt me or meant anything.. at least i hope so.
Racket Wolf EXACTLY
Yea, I was kind of disappointed Mark didn't realize it. I get it though, at the time he probly was just thinking "oh I heard it's like stanley parable hurhurhur make good episode!"
Thats kinda like my dad and i’s relationship(not in any sexual way). He currently wants me to do tennis as a school sport, though i dont want to. But im scared to tell him that i dont want to cause im afraid he’ll yell at me again. Thats not a joke
Holy crap this game is deep. I caught on early on, and it's really sad. When you disobey the person giving you directions, they verbally insult you. When you follow their directions, they give you more and treat you like you are their pet. It's a metaphor for an abusive relationship, and I believe that this game did a perfect job of conveying it, what it means, and how it could ultimately effect the player, or for the metaphor, the person in the relationship, in the end. This is extremely powerful. I know that most of you already know this, this is just me sharing my thoughts. :)
Feel free to tell me how you interpreted this game! I love hearing different perspectives and opinions :)
I totally agree but I want to add something I think you know what it is but I wanted to say that anyways if you didn't if you notice that even if he praised to him he would allow him to get hurt I think that signify the relationship even more that even though they may love you they're willing to hurt you because it's not true love
+Triny Mae Which was the good one though was it disobeying or doing what they say? one was colorful but always said mean things one was black and gray but made you feel good
that is how so many people are around here too. just in general. you dont do exactly what they want you to and they say horrible things about you. you dont change yourself to be what they want you to be and they say horrible things about you. the whole while acting like all you have to do is do and be what they want you to and they wouldn't treat you this way. as if it you fault they do and say those horrible things. this is what people are turning into. monsters.
Triny Mae That's exactly what I thought!
“That’s me, little miss disappointment.”
*....same.*
This game is basically asking what you would do to be loved.
When you played the second half, it gave me a bit of anxiety that you might accidentally disobey them. I was fearing that if you disobeyed them, they’d talk you down after all the praising they gave beforehand. Is that what an abusive relationship does? You want to obey them because you fear them.
You are willing to put your life in danger so you can receive heartless love from them.
Wow, i’m speechless.
oh, same here! it’s beginning to make more sense.
Yeah that IS how it works sadly, at least a good amount of the time...
Then if that is an abusive relationship, does that mean that my relationship with my biological dad(not in a dirty way) abusive? I’m not kidding, he discourages me everyday and almost made me depressed. He constantly shouts at me and makes me cry. Well i just opened up
AnacondraiGurl _ That's emotional abuse. Talk to your teacher.
It was feeling like the representation of an abusive relationship
To be honest I get both abusive relationship vibes and religion vibes from this
+Mortem You don't know that it was directed towards Christians.
+Mortem That wasen't my objective, but eh
Religion ?
To be honest i get rape vibes
Teh Lilisaurus yeah I do to
"Are you a man or a woman?"
"I am a man."
"No you are a girl."
Welcome to a day in the life of a trans person.
Well I mean it could happen to non-binary people too but it’s not really the same so-
I’m lucky enough to be a Demigirl so people misgendering me is a lot less stressful
It sucks, right?!
@@EnbyAnnoyance it really does suck
Also someone having a gender crisis *cough cough* me-
I feel pathetic. I wanted to play this because it looked cool and I was obeying all the instructions until it got to the 'do not fail' part. My laptop is rly laggy and the controls weren't really working and I kept failing every single time. It kinda started to get into my head, 'how disappointing', 'ugly creature', after all that praise. And now I just feel like even more of a failure than before, especially since it's just a stupid fucking game. Welp, I'll go have that anxiety attack now.
CrazyAssFangirl yeah that last one seems to aim for the player failing it unintentionally
Gives you a hug as well
Dont believe this game. Dont feel pathetic.
Dont feel bad
Feel proud you were even able to load the game
*proceeds to hug*
Sorry if I sound insensitive but... That's just a game 😅
I can relate to this game so much. I was in an abusive relationship in which I let the other person define my life. She was emotionally abusive, but I was willing to ignore it because I thought she loved me. I blindly followed along, letting her dictate my life and my world. It caused me to question my identity in many ways. I began losing sight of anything that she didn't want me to focus on. I let her tell me what was right and wrong. She manipulated me. She took advantage of my good will. She broke me.
I still suffer from that relationship. Many of the things that happened are still invasive elements of my life.
And I did it all for the sake of being "loved."
You are loved for you, and anyone who tries to change you, doesn't love you. I hope you realize that you are worth more than that girl who broke you. She doesn't define you. Girlfriends abusing boyfriends is so often looked over and made fun of when it's a serious thing that happens. I hope you only listen to the supportive people in your life. YOU are loved. That girl isn't worth your hurt. Whatever she did to you, you will get better, and you will move past it. Stay strong :)
JMcAfreak I am so sorry for what happened. I really hope you got better in the end. just remember that no matter what, you will always be loved by someone
Get revenge on that brat. And do it QUICK, before she does that again with another person.
Hey, friend... Do you know what exactly she could do to improve? And do you think she really loved you regardless of what she did?
I'm asking this because it's not easy to find a guy who talks about this kind of things, because I have already thought once that I mistreated my boyfriend, I am still not sure if that's true or not, it's really hard to find something to help me on the internet, so I wanted to know of him: if you could talk to someone who wants to be a better girlfriend but doesn't know how, someone who maybe abuses her boyfriend, what would you say to help her?
Is it just me, or does that sprite/ silhouette look like Totoro?
wolfjedisamuel I was just thinking that!
Yeah.
Tortoro tortoro🎶
Omg yes
not just you
This reminded me of a controlling/abusive relationship
"im a man"
"no youre a girl"
me, a trans man, gets dysphoric: "oof..."
Aww.
Hope your doing great, Bud!
Same
mate if anyone at all misgenders you again just tell me i will kick their asses
Me when my mom misgenders me
poetry hobo Just remember: you are loved, you are amazing, and you are valid ❤️🏳️🌈
this makes me think of an abusive relationship tbh
if you do what they say, they're content. if you do anything else, they insult and belittle you.
True
abbiepancakeeater52 stop trying to get attention you 10 year old
anyone else getting an abusive relationship kinda vibe? because this really reminds me of mentally and emotionally abusive relationships.
that's the idea of the game (see my own comment on this video)
I think so too.
I was thinking the exact same thing actually. Especially how every time you don't do what it says I insults you, and tries to make you feel guilty about leaving. 0_o
I was thinking more a parental thing? Like your parents trying to decide your future etc. Trying to slow you down and make you take the easy, conventional route, rather than finding your own way- which has a greater risk of danger. Like, they love you and don't want you to be hurt which is why they encourage you just choose the spikes at the beginning- the spikes being the easier thing to do. As it progresses and you get closer to YOUR goal, it's like the parent realises that you can actually DO what you set out to do and wants you to be the best so they can be proud of you- but they want it to seem like that was their idea all along, not yours, like overachieving, high expectations parents.. Maybe I'm reading to much into it, idk, that's just what it means to me :o
Autumn Kalista mentally and emotionally are the same thing lol ( not trying to be rude or anything I thought it was funny)
I feel like this is a more meaningful story when played the opposite way around. Abusive relationships start out with you wanting to please the person and having the illusion of unconditional love. It takes time and mistakes to learn that their "love" really is heavily conditional, and they only really loved the idea of the perfect "you".
*Throw yourself into the barbs*
Darkiplier: OK
mark: “i am a man”
me: remembers all the times mark screamed like a girl
brutal
What is ‘screaming like a girl’ ? We all scream high pitched, that’s called a scream.
@@j.d.-lightful8979 my dog screams low pitched :/
Absolute Zero I scream low pitched and I’m a girl.
Absolute Zero I can’t scream period. I can yell. Lol
“Oooh, is that some kink I hear in your voice”
~Markiplier 2016
-Posted by a potato from the future
Not future enough as I am a week more futuristic
Shane Robinson Well, I am currently farther in the future by almost an hour
We are all trillions of years into the future, just not right now. Time is a layered reality my friends!
RandomPotato .-. Now y’all are past scrubs
Hi I’m from the future
Anyone else notice that mark puts on his Dark voice for the mysterious evil lover character? It fits of course but it literally sent me Dark vibes that I couldn't shake the whole time.
Me: *has had various flashbacks and a nightmare about my abusive ex these past two weeks*
Also me: let's watch Mark play this game for the third time!
Me again: *starts having a panic attack at the "do I own your body or your mind" part*
Me yet again: Congratulations. You played yourself.
The answer: neither, you are a sovereign being and nobody owns your mind or body except YOURSELF because that’s your natural God-given right to freedom and self-determination 💖💫
Second time watching despite the panic and triggers. Weeee.
I dont know why I do this. But yeah I relate to your comment.
Hi, some random person on the internet here. Ik this is hella late but I just wanted to reach out to you and hope you are doing well now. Domestic violence is no joke and I find it really sad that people are putting fellow humans -especially when they claim to "love" them- through that garbage. I feel very strongly about it due to personal reasons, and I hope you have found peace and gave escaped said person completely. I may not be religious but I can say with certainty that there will be someone looking out for you. Love from Australia.
Zues teh birb Thank you. I have managed to physically escape a long time ago, though the mental scars are still there, but I am making strides towards healing. I don’t get how someone can claim to “love” you, yet hurt you. I hope you are doing well, too.
I feel like this game is a representation of unhealthy relationships
Fakku Babe yes it is
Yes
Agreed
Its not
SavannaH Forseth it is
I felt really fucking empty after watching this, I don't know why but I just did.
You're supposed to. It represents an aubsive relationship. Notice how mark intially reacts and goes the easier way and defies the person. That is supposed to be how others see it, but when you are in love, even in an abusive relationship, you'll hurt yourself for it. So that's why it gives you and easy and hard way
Actually it's increasingly difficult when you defy the person BECAUSE in emotionally abusive relationships, the guilt-tripping is like nothing you have ever seen. It actually does feel difficult to disobey, but like in the game, where everything becomes colorful and beautiful, everything turns out so much for the better.
Whereas, if you obey, everything goes smoothly. You are under their control. They have nothing to worry about. You will obey regardless. Even to throw yourself into barbs.
That's why this is one of my favorite games. It really hits hard.
I agree, they make you think you're a bad, defective person , so that your easier to control. It definitely takes a long time to lose their lies.
I actually thought, while watching this, that I would have chosen the paths opposite of what Mark picked. What does this say about me?
It might be because Mark threw out literally everything!
Everyone has sort of explained the meaning behind this with the abusive relationship and everything but the thought I had with this was, rather than the world getting clearer, I feel like it’s the world becoming how he (the narrator) wants you to see it. Because the barbs aren’t barbs unless you listen and avoid them. The statue isn’t a statue until he tells you it is. He’s warping your perception to be what he wants it to be, so he controls your reality. I know people have probably said similar things but I just wanted to throw my hat in
THEY MADE A MAN OUT OF YOU
I get abusive relationship vibes from this. The way it says disgusting and how disappointing. And it tells you to do stuff, not in a question type, like this: Can you not fail? But instead like this: Do NOT fail. Almost as if there would be consequences, which there were. But then it tries to keep you by saying how much it loves you. Like how an abusive partner may try to keep you by telling you how much they love you so maybe you don't tell someone or leave them.
Glammie the only problem is that in the end it says, “No, you are a man.” To me it seems like abusive parents, or a really bad kid.
It seems kinky to me lmao
Glammie I think thats the point
This gave me so much anxiety knowing what this is about. Emotional abuse has been a large part of my life, as my mothers ex was abusive, as well as my own ex. They say things to you to try to get under your skin and it does get under and it sucks.
Well it's your own fault for choosing a girl who isnt interested and obeying your mom.
@@Promuch971 I am only speaking the truth. If you're one of those kids who don't realize reality, it's best to do research before fighting against something you've never experienced.
@@DannyRoyalty3 sometimes the only way to figure out something is to experience it.
@@melody474 I know that, but what are you trying to say?
FlamerGamer YT what the hell dude?
I know this video is old but it was in my recommends. I myself relate hard to these words my family was exactly like this, but I figured out that this wasn't what love was and I don't fall for it any more, when I get out I'll leave and stay gone. However I have a new problem, my girlfriend's parents do this to her. She doesn't see it, she thinks that the reason they treat her this way is because they love her and want her to succeed. She thinks she deserves this, she thinks this is her fault.
She thinks that going back to them taught her discipline, because of them she's developed anxiety so bad she says she hears things and her anxiety tells her things she knows isn't true.
She escaped them momentarily by dropping out of college by staying with me, she was happy for a while but the day came when her parents finally found her after she "ran away" they guilted her, told her that her bad grades and dropping out of college were her fault, they gaslighted her, and to this day they still gas light her.
It makes me cry, knowning I cannot do anything more, a lot of people have told her that her parents problems are not her own to bear, even I've told her that it wasn't healthy but she still felt such heavy guilt about leaving them that she won't leave them anymore. I love her more than anything, they're effecting her but I can't do anything more to suade her because I fear that I'll lose her. I fear that often, I have to move soon and the thought of the distance pains us both. My family isn't great but I don't care about them, they aren't worth my tears, they have proven that time and time again. But the one reason I keep living is her, I live to see her smile.. I want her to be happy, no matter what it may cost.
I'm sorry to get all venty here but this video just .. It just made me feel. I know this will get buried in the comments, but I had to let this out. I love her, and to my gf if you ever see this, I love you, and I want to see you be happy doesn't matter how. Nothing you say or do will ever change the fact that I love you, no matter if your parents approve of our love or not I will never stop loving you for the rest of the time I live. We may just be two girls but in deep down inside we're just two beings who want to be happy, you make me happy, and I want to make you even happier. I love you.
...I'm so sorry this went on as long as it did.
How are you? How is she now?
@@radioactivepower600nanaspersec Much hasn't changed, she's still with her parents, she's slowly coming around though I think. And I've been making efforts to leave my family as well.
@@imaginethis2899 Try your best, you left your family behind once, you can do it twice. And I know she will, too. But good luck with all of that, and if you wanna tell me more, I will be here
@@radioactivepower600nanaspersec Thank you, friend. I appreciate it.
@@imaginethis2899 No need to thank me, I´m just speaking what I think is true
Anyone else just wanted to yell through the screen “it’s abuse, Mark!”
All this..."You dont deserve it", "Ugly creature", "how disappointing" reminds me of something Personal...makes it hard for me to watch that Video.
Asur-Daena-Ellaera-Lala Cryasurra Choddakra same
Asur-Daena-Ellaera-Lala Cryasurra Choddakra Aww hugs for you
it explains my life pretty well...
Remember, the abuser usually needs the victim more than the victim needs the abuser. The abuser cannot be happy without somebody to abuse, but the victim can live without them just fine.
me too, sometimes i cry when i think about it
No, you are a man, *jaws dropped*
No. balls dropped
H o l u p
R/cursedcomments
"I beg you to stay" THEN BEG
"you don't call someone ugly and disgusting and expect them to stay" that's it.
This game really hits home for me. My friend just came out to his mom as transgender and she didn't accept him. She said, "it's the devil's work". My heart is so heavy. If you are trans or LGBTQ+ or are struggling with anything I want you to know that you are so loved and no-one has any right to tell you otherwise. Your feelings are valid. You are the only one who can say who or what you are. Never forget that.
+Bane64 ??
thank you so much ♡
Kylie Blaze I started tearing up when I read that. Thank you so much, and I hope you have an amazing day.
You're a wonderful person. 😀 I haven't had to face this, but compassion is a rare and valuable thing nowadays. 💙
you are not your sexual orientation.
If anyone needs to talk about anything, I will listen, try to offer advice, and NOT judge. We all need to talk to someone from time to time and I know how hard it can be to find someone who you think will take you seriously. I know I can't prove anything from here, but I am very non-judgemental and as helpful as I can be.
Finally, if you're reading this, have a nice day.
Will Herzog :)
Believe it or not, I have been in a similar, though somewhat more tame situation; not being able to stop thinking about someone and feeling useless to anyone and a disappointment to everyone. Just looking at what you said, though, it looks like you have overlooked one critical fact. You realized there was something wrong and you fixed it. You decided you didn't like what you were doing and you decided to change. That alone shows more strength and conviction than many people give credit for. Your story (the relationship part of it) actually sounds a little like a funky amalgamation of my past relationships. One has been forbidden to see me by her current boyfriend even though we are still loose friends, one broke up with me even though things could hardly have been better because I'm going into the military soon (long story) and we had saved each other from our past demons while we were together. Long story short, I have felt a combination of longing and self-loathing and it was the darkest time of my life. All I can say is to never give up. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take and you never get another shot if you choose the permanent solution. As long as you have your faculties about you and you are working to improve your situation, tomorrow can be better. I'm sorry about your childhood and the things thrown on you that it sounds like you didn't deserve, but the only way you get out of a shadow and into the sun is by moving forward. Go about your life, go to school, get a job, whatever it is you're doing. Find something you can enjoy doing, something you are good at, something that you can take pride in. One day you will finish something you've been working on for a while and you will realize "I did this, I can do more. I am not worthless. I don't need anyone else to function at 100%." If my working out with the guys in the Air Force Delayed Entry Program has taught me anything, it's that EVERYONE is capable of more than they think. I never did any sports in high school and I hardly exercised at all; I was pretty out of shape. Now I've cut my 1.5 mile time by over five minutes in about six months and I'm on the path to join the USAF in what is widely considered one of their toughest positions, EOD. Everyone is stronger than they think. Never let anyone tell you you are worthless or weak or undesirable or anything. You have some long, dark shadows to escape, but even the longest shadow gives way to sun when you take it into your hands to find the edge.
I second Will Herzog's statements. That fact that you were able to make a change is wonderful, and life is ever changing so as long as you move forward you will be able to grasp happiness one day. Hang in there.
Will Herzog Do you have Skype or no?
i've killed a man, where can i hide his body?
This is when video games truly reach their potential in art. It's just a short simple game that anyone can play. But you have to make these decisions. You yourself are forced to decide the "best" option and you're left with how that makes you feel. The anxiety it gives you, the fear, guilt, and pride. It's all there to give you a glimpse of someone else's life. To walk in their shoes for a few minutes. To give you more of an understanding of them, more than any other media of entertainment can achieve.
it hurt me everytime he said "im a good boy :D"
I feel like when he listened to the words, the character started believing what it said. For example, when Mark went through the game the first time, he avoided the barbs, so they stayed as just red blocks. But when he listened the second time, the character actually built the image of barbs in their mind when they saw red blocks. But every time that Mark disobeyed, the world got more colorful and happy. So when the character realized that the words were hurting them, he went away.
Cheeseymontage wow, that a really interesting way to see!!!
Omg.....thats actually.....Amazing....
Every time I watch Him, I feel like someone cares, and I feel like there's someone that I can depend on. Thanks fer makin me feel loved, Mark
Also, I cried too much at this...Im a very easy cry-er
Yeah I cried too, this was really sad bc it sucks how other people are going through things similar to this. Hurting themselves just for love
Kat Is Dun With You I know...
Hhehe dont panic! At the disco but i stan this
I think it got all colorful when you disobeyed them because it represented you denying and rejecting a toxic grasp
This game: *is actually really deep*
Me: hehe kinky
A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Nice way of putting it :)
Would you kindly?
The Dark Kitty How dare you *gets golf club*
"A Man Chooses. A Slave Obeys." Is an achievement you can get in the game lol
*"life is an endless void of darkness and depression...."*
This kinda hurts... I've been through so many abusive and forced relationships... This hits close to the heart...
i hope you're alright ♡♡
same...i treat girls like shit cuz of what they did to me
NARUTO SHITYOUDAMN ok so you shouldn't do that. Im sorry for you, but treating others like shit cuz someone else did is wrong.
and your 15...?
I hope your life got better
Mark : I am a good boy!
Me : First...you are a man.. *remembers everytime Mark swears*
This game hits home for me. “The difference between lonely, and alone. Alone is when you are left by yourself to be at home. Lonely is when, you feel empty, even with a crowd full of people.”
"No you are a girl"
Did you just assume my gender?
tell that to tumblr
I classify as an attack helicopter, thank you very much.
TRIGGERED
Okay haha seriously though, try making that joke to an actual transgender person who is too uncomfortable in their own body to interact with people and plans to face a life of expensive medical procedures and endless discrimination just to be who they are. As a transgender person, that first line actually hit me hard. This is Markiplier's channel. You can learn to be a little more considerate. All of you.
Jesus
We're just joking :0
.....Well shit I clicked on this to laugh and now I'm crying and questioning my life
Hot Pocket Shakespeare do you need a life no offense
Rory Bear07 * Pat pat * shhhh we do care 💕
Rory Bear07 lmao np
Hot Pocket Shakespeare same here
aww I know :(
Ha ha ha! Does anybody notice the typo in the title?
It says "Loved" it should say "you're a disappointment"!
I think it’s a representation of how people try to be someone they’re not so people will except them in fear that if they act like themselves they will not be accepted or loved
the game represents an abusive relationship.the commands,the insults ....etc..
i agree thats how i saw it to
wow that is also a really cool concept i never thought about it like that and that makes a lot of sense
HOLY SHIT I HEARD ABOUT THIS GAME ON TUMBLR and it is really in relation to abuse of all sorts, and it really hits home for me. I am so glad to see this played.
....iv finished watching this....and now in confused.
Am I still falling for the same tricks I did as a kid?
I feel the same way, but I also think that was the point. Our abusers paint a pretty picture for us, it's easier to follow what they say. When you play the path of disobedience, everything gets confusing, harder to see at times, but you can still spot the danger very clearly. I think it's meant to symbolize that very complex and confusing experience and I think it does a beautiful job with it.
+Francis Bacon no your fine, those people piss me off too.
+Tj F yea, I could see it that way. good description. thanks. I'll have this on my mind for a bit, but you've helped a lot. ^u^ thanks.
Bella Blackmist No problem :> I'm glad I could help!
*random speaker* : are you a boy or a girl
*mark* IM A BOYY IM A GOOD BOYY☺️☺️☺️
*random speaker* : no, your a man
*me* starts to cry, lol that’s so lovely too me
12:16 😢😢☺️☺️
I somehow found it really cute
The screen: *the end*
Mark: "whaT DOES THAT MEAN?!"
WELL IDK IF THIS LIL GIRL WANTS TO COOPERATE 😂
Lol
I love when mark plays these little short cute games
The Banana Killer z
The Banana Killer me to
this isn't a "little cute game", it has a very strong message on religion and trans people (that's also applicable to other lgbt+ people) which mark completely missed
Magalí Iglesias Barenys huh I didn't really read into it too much but now you say it yeah I see that
+Magalí Iglesias Barenys Really? Most people say it's about an abusive relationship, and I see more reason to believe that.
Would you please explain which parts of the game you think give comment on religion and such?
"you dont call someone ugly and disgusting and expect them to stay" damn that hit haardd
"I'm a man as far as I know and as far as I've convinced you guy- oh."
I died when a grown man got so happy when he found out he was a man 💪
Me too
This game made me really numb. My mother has always been emotionally abusive, but this game reminded me more of my dad. How it says that I will forgive you if you do this, and I always loved you. My mother is the first version, while my dad is the second. Both abusive, but one more bearable than the other.
"Disgusting!" Mark.... Listen....
Your a master peice!
“is it coming after me?”
*changes voice completely*
“hey back off, stranger danger.”
OOOH, when mark went and did what the voice said, the world that was shaped with all the curves and little plants and visible barbs, it's like in an abusive relationship the other person, the toxic one, they manipulate your version of reality and make you see what they want you to see. That's how I see the obedient path.
The rebellious path, I see, is your true way of seeing the world, and all the colours that you see is your newfound positive way of looking at things. Your true way, not being manipulated in any form.
the character kinda looks like its the silhouette oh Totoro
*of
^Blaise^ *sees totoro* "Hi new best friend"
Oh my gosh yes!
I thought the exact same thing!
Mark fell for that abusive relationship hard.
As soon as the voice started calling mark named I knew what it was....a toxic and abusive relationship. My friend went threw that. I told her to leave because he hit her and he told her it was love. She left him after he told her she was worthless and she had enough.
Title: Loved
Me: "Well that's something I'll never be."
Don't say that....
Never say that. People so do love you
痛み大きな wow....
Me too
ditto
“You can take my body and my mind, but there’s one thing you’ll never take, MY PRIDE!!!!” There ye go
LieutenantRedWall YEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH PRIDE!!!!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@not_sterling
True
Babidi : "Kill HIM! The only way is to kill the Supreme Kai is kill him Vegeta!
Vegeta : "*Strugless to keep his mind as his own*"
Supreme Kai : "Babidi has entered his mind"
Babidi : "You can't afford to let him live VEGETA!" "Kill him Vegeta KILL HIM!"
Vegeta : "I refuse"
Babidi : "WHAT?!"
Dabura : "HUH?!"
Vegeta : "Your business with the Kai it means nothing to me Kakarot is my only objective"
Babidi : "That's amusing Vegeta , but i'm serious every fiber of your body i command you to destroy!"
Babidi : "Kill KILL the Kai!
Vegeta : "*Still struggling to keep his mind as his own*"
Vegeta : "NO! Get out of my head i already told you I WILL NOT BE distracted from this ANYMORE! I WON'T!"
Vegeta : "It will takes more than this to stop me YOU MAY HAVE INVADED MY MIND AND MY BODY , BUT THERE'S ONE THING A SAIYAN ALWAYS KEEPS IT'S PRIDE!!!!!!!!
2:43
He died *four times*
ON THE SAME *FCKING BLOCK*
Jesus christ... this game really struck a chord with me and I'm on the verge of tears...
It's about being in an emotionally abusive relationship. When you start not to listen to them, they start insulting you and the pixels changing is you becoming confused and questioning their love. When you obey them, they praise you and things seem to become clear, because you begin trusting them. You think you're safe and it's normal. They love you. They demand you be perfect (Do NOT fail), and put you down if you don't listen or aren't perfect, making you less then them. You have to be the best to deserve them. I believe it's trying to stimulate the feeling and experience of an emotionally abusive relationship.
"Hey backoff, stranger danger" Me whenever I go outside😆
Thanks for your words of wisdom, Geesus 🙏🏻
Gared weh
Kitchensincc sameeee
I just run
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"That's me.. Little miss disappointment I know... I know" God damn I felt that so badly 4:40
as someone who’s experienced abusive friendships (which can be just as bad as abusive partners), this shit really hurts. “Why do you hate me? I loved you.” gave me chills.