First New Look Breakfast Time 10 November 1986
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- The change to Breakfast Time which happened a couple of weeks after BBC1's new look daytime schedule with the "splendid new desk" as Frank Bough said through clenched teeth. Francis Wilson never looked happy or comfortable in that suit.
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They had something really good in the original Breakfast Time. It had a warmth to it, it was a very easygoing start to the day which had just the right mix of news and lighter content. Easily the best of the BBC's breakfast offerings to date. Once they changed it, it declined swiftly and severely. The entire 90's Breakfast News was one of the most boring things ever. Today's Breakfast is alright, but it's nothing special. The gap in the market is something like the Breakfast Time of the early 80's. If one of the channels did that, it'd smash the opposition.
This is where Breakfast Time conceded defeat of the breakfast sofa to TV-am. Frank had gone by the end of 1987 of course. I believe this look was meant to have launched on 27 October, but for whatever reason didn’t. (Presumably union or technical)
The excellent ‘Battle for Breakfast’ documentary from 2014 basically states this is the version of Breakfast Time the BBC secretly wanted, even though it was dull as dishwater. Ron Neill who was the launch editor of Breakfast Time in 1983 acknowledging this version was a mistake, along with Frank admitting it wasn’t the same.
I seem to remember there was a problem with the set otherwise it would have been the same day as the rest of the new daytime schedule. Not even the addition of the flowers on the set behind the "splendid desk" could really make it any better. It just didn't suit any of the presenters after the relaxed show that went before it and Francis Wilson in parfticular looked fed up from day one.
@@neilogden Hi Neil, this version of BBC Breakfast Time was still produced from the Lime Grove studios, and those studios were falling to bits come 1986. In 1988 it was finally moved to BBC Television Centre where it occupied TC2 (where Lorraine and Loose Women are produced now). The 1986 revamp was terrible for the show. Frank Bough called it as you have a perfect programme format and you strangle it just as it was successful. Yes TV-am come 1986 had copied the BBC format, but there was still room for a second lighter breakfast show. However BBC management felt it should be more sedate. Hard news at breakfast for the yuppie business asses, which led to around 2 million viewers flocking to TV-am. They never really recovered from this, and it was not until June 1997 with the revamped Breakfast News that they started to recover some of their lost audience.
If I remember correctly it was the Breakfast News in 1989 that got pushed back by two weeks because of technical issues.
@@moramento22 Yes, as Studio TC2 at BBC Television Centre was having power supply problems, and so Breakfast Time was forced to continue for a further two weeks from Studio TC5 I believe they were in at the time. However there were delays in 1986. The new daytime BBC One service did launch on 27th October 1986, and Breakfast Time new look should have launched on the same date surely? However I have read that might not have been the case, as the hourly morning/afternoon news summaries did not start until December 1986, so maybe it was a phased in approach to the new schedules.
@@johnking5174 Oh okay, thank you for that elaboration. Sounds plausible that BBC wanted to do the scheduling changes in phases
Lasted to 1989 when it became more business like with heavy graphics, studio set, and a revised theme, again by George Fenton.
Interesting the different views. I was surprised there was no desk initially on 'Breakfast Time' but still watched it. After a month I did notice how spartan the 'Nationwide' studio looked compared to the new 'Breakfast time' one but before 'Breakfast time' launch I thought 'Nationwide' studio was homely, it was the homeliest set going. By analogy where UK National Railways had a 'preferred' route to Channel Tunnel but the one they built was not that preferred route
Dreadful programme. Did the BBC really think this would hold viewers? Frank looks like he's doing community service and left a year later, Francis looked embarrassed and don't get me started on that crappy theme tune and title sequence. BT mark 1 was the best breakfast tv there ever was in the UK.
I quite liked the theme tune, that was about the only thing though :)
The 1986 revamp was terrible for the show. Frank Bough called it as you have a perfect programme format and you strangle it just as it was successful. Yes TV-am come 1986 had copied the BBC format, but there was still room for a second lighter breakfast show. However BBC management felt it should be more sedate. Hard news at breakfast for the yuppie business asses, which led to around 2 million viewers flocking to TV-am. They never really recovered from this, and it was not until June 1997 with the revamped Breakfast News that they started to recover some of their lost audience.
2000 was the turning point.
@@jamesmitchell8922 Yes, with the launch of BBC Breakfast, it became less frosty
It was this stupid revamp that everyone hated that turned everything around for TV-am.
But on 23 November 1987 TV-AM got pissed when the big strike occured.
Look at Francis 😅😅😅😅 One night in Bangkok and the worlds your oyster!
In the first 30 seconds you can tell by their expressions and body language that the hosts know that the new format is a major mistake. "Spendid new desk"....lol
Even before that Francis Wilson looks miserable in his suit with hands in pockets.
@@neilogden Yes his walk off says it all.
It was much better when we had Bough and Selina Scott sneering at each other from adjacent sofas, separated only by jugs of scalding coffee that could potentially cause a "bad accident" should that sneering escalate into mindless violence.
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Tvam was so much better
Much better than the sofa nonsense. It really took off in 1989 when renamed breakfast news. For all those calling it boring - that's your opinion. Personally I find joking around on a sofa boring, this is much more interesting .
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