This was a great run through, and the video format and editing made it even more enjoyable. This video has definitely helped me make the decision to back the game, thank you!
1:03:57 Hey Jon. Great tutorials and thanks for covering this game! There are no rules in BTAS for throwing carried items. There is in TMNT but your only options here are Hand Off or Drop. But if your viewers which to house rule this (because hucking a fire extinguisher across the room is awesome!) they can find the rule for Throwing and Intercepting items on page 38 of the Change is Constant rulebook.
I just got my shipping notification for the Kickstarter. Had a blast re watching your play through. Thanks for all the excellent content you create for us in the hobby!
Only thing to add Jon is that Batgirl regains a focus at the end of her turn. Other than that, enjoyed this video just as much as the tutorial. Can't wait to see what you play next
@@JonGetsGames no problem man. You honestly had so many things to remember with the moves, actions, dice roll, etc. We all have those moments with these board games nowadays.
I forgot about that too. Just received the KS of this game yesterday. Thanks Jon for giving me a heads-up on the rules! Your videos help with getting my head around the game. Thank you!
Great video! I noticed that whenever you went on the defensive, you only turned 1 die at a time to the block side. I believe you can turn all 3 dice to the block side when going on the defensive. So it seems to me there were many attacks where you could have rolled more defense dice for the heroes. Edit: Also, attacks out of obscuring terrain are also halved, so some of those late game Enforcer attacks targeting Gordon would have been weaker. Scenario's usually don't end until a hero receives a KO, so if the villain win condition was to just knock down a hero, that's unusual.
Thanks for this note, I didn't notice the "or more" there in the rules. I'll add a note to the Klingon subtitles in the tutorial. Regarding obscuring terrain, this surprises me because the designer of the game watched it and gave me notes before I published this and that wasn't mentioned. I see it now in the rules and would certainly have placed Scarecrows smoke bombs differently if I'd played that correctly. Regarding your last sentence, my understanding is heroes are never knocked out, just knocked down. Can you explain what you mean there?
@@JonGetsGames I typed out a whole response and it's gone, I must have accidentally not sent it! Here it is again: I'm not sure about obscuring terrain intent myself, but I have seen the same rules in 3 rule-books now. I think Scarecrow is the only character that can attack out of obscuring terrain without a penalty. The heroes can use them defensively though, but spending their attack actions and only afterwards activating cards/gadgets that generate obscured terrain. Offensively though, since it cuts your attack pool in half essentially, it doesn't have much of an application. I'd say it is a bit weird that Batman/Foot Ninja can throw a smoke pellet in-front of him and the struggle to hit someone right in front of him outside the smoke. For the KO's, heroes (and leader villain in competitive mode) get knocked down once their life/hp goes down to 0. The next time they activate, they make an awakening roll. If they fail to meet their awakening threshold, they receive a KO token. In most scenarios, this means that either the hero or villains have achieved their goal (or at least partially if there are multiple win conditions). As you mentioned in the video, if all the heroes are knocked down, they also lose the scenario, and I think that's usually the only way to lose without getting a KO token. I'm not 100% on this, but I have not seen a scenario that the villain wins upon only knocking down a hero. The heroes usually lose if they received a given number of KO tokens, usually 1 or 2. So while I have not seen the win conditions for the Scarecrow scenario, I found it unusual that heroes would lose upon being knocked down rather than KO. Assuming the scenario is lost upon a hero receiving a KO, Gordon still would have gotten a chance to do his awakening roll, and only if he had failed it would he gain a KO token. On an aside, I checked with the designer, Beat Cops count as minions for awakening rolls, adding 1 dice for friendly heroes' awakening rolls, and subtracting 1 from villain's awakening rolls.
@@sevithan9446 Ah I see, this really helps. It's shame this wasn't pointed out before I made the final render. You are correct that in the scenario I used there needed to be a KO to have the villains win and I missed that subtle distinction. I'll add a note into the subtitles about this. I think the heroes were still going to lose, but the game would have gone into at least one more round if I had played it correctly.
@@JonGetsGames It looks like Gordon would have gotten to roll 2(base defense) + 2(from both beat cops) +4 (Batman and Robin, if they don't move) dice for his awakening roll, plus whatever shields he rolls or gets form others (and he could heal had he rolled chi icons), on his next turn. Rolling 8 hits on 8 or more, is tough, but doable. So he had a chance to get up, but due to random initiative it may have stopped Batman and Robin from moving in order to help Batgirl because they needed to help Gordon. I know you weren't planning on it, but you played it very well, withdrawing Gordon away from the enemies surrounded with allies to maximize his chance of getting back up. In any case, I hope you make more videos for this game system in the future!
the cops you get with gordon dont ever do enough damge to wound. im playing coop. man bat auto defends 4 dmg. the most i think i can roll are two dice. am i doing somthing wrong? 1 day later: nm i found out if a cop doesnt move he can roll 3 dice to attack. not bad
Hey there. Besides the great playthrough I've got question away from the game. I'm not a native speaker and I noticed you're using the plural when speaking about a single hero. Such as "Robin can activate their bat symbol". That's a bit confusing to me. Is it your personal style of speaking, is it some kind of dialect or something like that? Would be interesting to hear about that habbit since I never heared it before.
That is standard english to me. It is like saying "Robin has a bat symbol and he can activate it". No indication of a plural. Are you mixing up their, to do with something they have, and they're (they are)? They sound the same. So does there.
@@Icematt12 He was definitely using "their", not "they're". It sounded odd to me too, at first. My assumption is that he was applying that to whomever would be controlling the character (even though he was playing all four in this game), rather than referring to the character themselves. Having said that, it would have been less confusing if he'd just used he/she for the characters, though.
@@roadytn "their" however can apply to one person or a group. "John is playing with their toy" and "Marketing have released the notes from their meeting" are both valid to me. But "his toy" admittedly would be the best one to use. I am average at communication, more maths and science, so don't take my word as educational fact. I'm just sharing my own knowledge.
The one rule about intercepting seems weird to me. So the more mobile the character who is being thrown to is the better the chances for intercepting? Not to say that isn't the rule it just seems counterintuitive. Am I missing something?
@@JonGetsGames Actually you use the intercepting characters movement to intercept not the character who is being thrown too. Maybe that is what you did I forget where that was.
This was a great run through, and the video format and editing made it even more enjoyable. This video has definitely helped me make the decision to back the game, thank you!
1:03:57 Hey Jon. Great tutorials and thanks for covering this game! There are no rules in BTAS for throwing carried items. There is in TMNT but your only options here are Hand Off or Drop. But if your viewers which to house rule this (because hucking a fire extinguisher across the room is awesome!) they can find the rule for Throwing and Intercepting items on page 38 of the Change is Constant rulebook.
This video was made with a prototype, so it is possible that some rules changed.
I just got my shipping notification for the Kickstarter. Had a blast re watching your play through. Thanks for all the excellent content you create for us in the hobby!
Thank you for the clear and very illuminating run through!
Great job as always Jon. Love your playtrough
Great video! Thanks for helping to learn how to play! :)
Only thing to add Jon is that Batgirl regains a focus at the end of her turn. Other than that, enjoyed this video just as much as the tutorial. Can't wait to see what you play next
Dang, I somehow totally forgot about that. Thanks for pointing it out.
@@JonGetsGames no problem man. You honestly had so many things to remember with the moves, actions, dice roll, etc. We all have those moments with these board games nowadays.
I forgot about that too. Just received the KS of this game yesterday. Thanks Jon for giving me a heads-up on the rules! Your videos help with getting my head around the game. Thank you!
So glad to hear this helped you :)
Thank you Jon! This video helped so much! 😃
Great video!
I noticed that whenever you went on the defensive, you only turned 1 die at a time to the block side. I believe you can turn all 3 dice to the block side when going on the defensive. So it seems to me there were many attacks where you could have rolled more defense dice for the heroes.
Edit: Also, attacks out of obscuring terrain are also halved, so some of those late game Enforcer attacks targeting Gordon would have been weaker. Scenario's usually don't end until a hero receives a KO, so if the villain win condition was to just knock down a hero, that's unusual.
Thanks for this note, I didn't notice the "or more" there in the rules. I'll add a note to the Klingon subtitles in the tutorial. Regarding obscuring terrain, this surprises me because the designer of the game watched it and gave me notes before I published this and that wasn't mentioned. I see it now in the rules and would certainly have placed Scarecrows smoke bombs differently if I'd played that correctly. Regarding your last sentence, my understanding is heroes are never knocked out, just knocked down. Can you explain what you mean there?
@@JonGetsGames I typed out a whole response and it's gone, I must have accidentally not sent it!
Here it is again:
I'm not sure about obscuring terrain intent myself, but I have seen the same rules in 3 rule-books now. I think Scarecrow is the only character that can attack out of obscuring terrain without a penalty. The heroes can use them defensively though, but spending their attack actions and only afterwards activating cards/gadgets that generate obscured terrain. Offensively though, since it cuts your attack pool in half essentially, it doesn't have much of an application. I'd say it is a bit weird that Batman/Foot Ninja can throw a smoke pellet in-front of him and the struggle to hit someone right in front of him outside the smoke.
For the KO's, heroes (and leader villain in competitive mode) get knocked down once their life/hp goes down to 0. The next time they activate, they make an awakening roll. If they fail to meet their awakening threshold, they receive a KO token. In most scenarios, this means that either the hero or villains have achieved their goal (or at least partially if there are multiple win conditions). As you mentioned in the video, if all the heroes are knocked down, they also lose the scenario, and I think that's usually the only way to lose without getting a KO token.
I'm not 100% on this, but I have not seen a scenario that the villain wins upon only knocking down a hero. The heroes usually lose if they received a given number of KO tokens, usually 1 or 2. So while I have not seen the win conditions for the Scarecrow scenario, I found it unusual that heroes would lose upon being knocked down rather than KO. Assuming the scenario is lost upon a hero receiving a KO, Gordon still would have gotten a chance to do his awakening roll, and only if he had failed it would he gain a KO token.
On an aside, I checked with the designer, Beat Cops count as minions for awakening rolls, adding 1 dice for friendly heroes' awakening rolls, and subtracting 1 from villain's awakening rolls.
@@sevithan9446 Ah I see, this really helps. It's shame this wasn't pointed out before I made the final render. You are correct that in the scenario I used there needed to be a KO to have the villains win and I missed that subtle distinction. I'll add a note into the subtitles about this. I think the heroes were still going to lose, but the game would have gone into at least one more round if I had played it correctly.
@@JonGetsGames It looks like Gordon would have gotten to roll 2(base defense) + 2(from both beat cops) +4 (Batman and Robin, if they don't move) dice for his awakening roll, plus whatever shields he rolls or gets form others (and he could heal had he rolled chi icons), on his next turn. Rolling 8 hits on 8 or more, is tough, but doable.
So he had a chance to get up, but due to random initiative it may have stopped Batman and Robin from moving in order to help Batgirl because they needed to help Gordon. I know you weren't planning on it, but you played it very well, withdrawing Gordon away from the enemies surrounded with allies to maximize his chance of getting back up.
In any case, I hope you make more videos for this game system in the future!
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the cops you get with gordon dont ever do enough damge to wound. im playing coop. man bat auto defends 4 dmg. the most i think i can roll are two dice. am i doing somthing wrong?
1 day later: nm i found out if a cop doesnt move he can roll 3 dice to attack. not bad
Where did you get that dice tray? I really like it
I was fortunate enough to be given this by someone who made it custom. They don't sell them though, so they can't be purchased unfortunately.
Hey there. Besides the great playthrough I've got question away from the game. I'm not a native speaker and I noticed you're using the plural when speaking about a single hero. Such as "Robin can activate their bat symbol". That's a bit confusing to me. Is it your personal style of speaking, is it some kind of dialect or something like that? Would be interesting to hear about that habbit since I never heared it before.
That is standard english to me. It is like saying "Robin has a bat symbol and he can activate it". No indication of a plural.
Are you mixing up their, to do with something they have, and they're (they are)? They sound the same. So does there.
@@Icematt12
He was definitely using "their", not "they're". It sounded odd to me too, at first. My assumption is that he was applying that to whomever would be controlling the character (even though he was playing all four in this game), rather than referring to the character themselves.
Having said that, it would have been less confusing if he'd just used he/she for the characters, though.
@@Icematt12 He doesn' say "Robin can use HIS (singular)...". He's constantly saying THEIR (plural) and I just wonder why is that.
@@Jito463 Thanks for your thoughts on that. Never heared people using personal pronouns of the plural form when refering to a single player or hero.
@@roadytn "their" however can apply to one person or a group. "John is playing with their toy" and "Marketing have released the notes from their meeting" are both valid to me. But "his toy" admittedly would be the best one to use.
I am average at communication, more maths and science, so don't take my word as educational fact. I'm just sharing my own knowledge.
Are u planning to make a video with the coop rule?
I am not. The game has already been shipped out to another content creator.
@@JonGetsGames That is too bad. Your video is really good, but I wish you beat the scenario :)
The one rule about intercepting seems weird to me. So the more mobile the character who is being thrown to is the better the chances for intercepting? Not to say that isn't the rule it just seems counterintuitive. Am I missing something?
I thought it was slightly counter intuitive as well, but that's how the rule was written in the version that I was sent.
If they could have intercepted the fire extinguisher then the villains first move should have been taking it then running away.
@@JonGetsGames Actually you use the intercepting characters movement to intercept not the character who is being thrown too. Maybe that is what you did I forget where that was.