Understanding Bass Pedal Settings - Kick Setup Essentials
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In this Drum.Dog video we go through everything you need to know to set up a bass/kick pedal to your personal requirements!
Kick pedals are a really personal element of the kit that can easily be overlooked, this video will help you understand which characteristics can be changed and how to change them.
Contents (Quick Navigation):
0:49 - Feel Characteristics
- 1:10 - Velocity
- 1:28 - Resistance
- 1:35 - Return
2:27 - Adjustments
- 2:30 - Spring Tension
- 3:33 - Beater/Footboard Angle
- 4:27 - Beater Height
- 5:32 - Beater Weight
6:55 - Cam Shape
8:01 - Double Pedal Tips
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What an awesome video! Nobody teaches these things!!! Thank you!!!
It's been said already in the comments many times over, but this video is absolutely, hands down, the best, most informative content on the subject- drummers everywhere thank you! Killer job mate!
Super important to experiment with many different bass drum pedal settings to find your comfort zone!!
I recently ordered a E-kit and a double pedal, I have been suffering with my pedal being too sensitive.
This video is about to change that!
Watching this a few days before my first double bass pedal arrives. Thanks, really helpful!
Glad it helped!
Hi, Thanks for that you just made things a whole lot easier for me! Exactly what I was looking for and explained perfectly. Used this guide to adjust my edrum bass pedal on the Millenium mps 850 electronic kit.
This was very well done. I’ve watched a lot of pedal tutorials while trying to sort out getting the feel right. This the first one to breakdown “feel” into velocity, resistance & return…and to show how the adjustments affect those three components.
Beyond what you covered, your 3 component approach helps explain the impact of footboard length, direct drive vs chain, etc. on feel.
Many thanks!!
been playing for years and didn't know half of this. very clear explanation - thanks :)
This was hugely helpful in adjusting my angle. I have an Alesis kit and the bass drum’s volume is quite low. Changing the angle helps me hit it harder, hence louder.
Perfect video for what I wanted to know. You're awesome, thanks!
You sir have saved me alot of time I've been trying to work out how to change the pedal board angle on my speed cobras ..thank you.
This guy is a whole vibe.
Very helpful. Thank you!
SUPER helpful!! Beem struggling a lot and this was the best explanation yet!
We're glad it helped! 🙏
My new kit came with the pedal set with a pretty tight spring and pretty far back angle. And man i have been adjusting and changing the settings a ton. I can't figure out where i like it 😅. Now im here lol😂
Thank you for the easy to understand video. I just started taking up drums about 4 months ago and am pleased with my progress. The bass drum pedal has been an issue as I can't seem to get the right resistance that is comfortable and the right rebound as I am learning all kinds of songs. Hopefully O figure this part out soon. 😊
Thanks mate for Explaining the bass pedal & taking the time to explain in detail’s
This video really helped me get my bass pedal just the way I like it! thank you so much!
Great video! Right to the point with enough information to fix the problem. Thanks!
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching
Very well done video my friend! Subscribed gonna go hit the kit now
Wonderful video, super helpful! Life long guitarist... trying to figure out how to play my son's kit... great info to refine and adjust pedal settings. Thank you!
So great to hear it's useful for you Kurt! 🙏
Welcome the dark side 😆🥁
Thanks! Just what I needed. Getting my first drum set today. Got the pedal yesterday. I never knew there would be so many settings I could adjust. Didn't come with a manual.
Congrats, enjoy!! 😁🥁
Great content guys!
Thanks Alan! 🥁
This channel deserves more subs, Subscribed, always great content
Thanks so much! 😊
I have a lot of issues. I have been playing drums for many years but have been inactive for a lot of time. I remember that since beginning i had problems with triplets on double bass drum. I will definitely try out some of these techniques, and hopefully it will help to play triplets much easier.
Best explanation IN ALL CZcams (Specially for a beginner like me.) Yeah!
That was a good video. Thank you.cheers
I hated my bass pedal until I watched this... Thank you.
Very well explained Sir! Very informative video.
Glad you liked it
Thanks so much. It is very practical
Excellent Video.... Well Explained, Thanks!!! - 👍
Really useful, thanks!
Great video , Cam shape is something I hadn't noticed.
My Tama pedal has a offset cam and beater angle adjustment.
If I don't have the beater angle set just right the beater can come back and hit the top of my foot.
@6:28 my old ears 🤣 thought you said 10 and 20 pound weights.
Bad hearing tends to add a little humor to my life.
Great Video, taught me a lot!
Happy to hear our video was informative! We’ve covered more topics in depth on our site that might further pique your interest: welcome.drum.dog 😄
Holy hell as a new drummer THANK YOU for this.
how’s the progress 3 months later?
Yamaha FP9 user here. gonna start learning how to benefit all the customization of this pedal!
That HP90P sure looks sweet!
Thank you! I understand now!!!
Glad it helped!
Very useful, thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
I need to learn how to play off my toes rather than my heel! Will have a go at adjusting my pedal settings to see if that helps.
I just got a new pedal and yeah, spring tension is definitely important to tinker with. It might not feel as important as beater height, but you are correct in that it definitely needs attention!
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very important lesson.
On the issue of cam profile mentioned near the end of the video, if you're a Bury The Beater type, (hold the beater against the head between beats), you should stick with round cams only. The other cams actually help you if you prefer to bounce the beater, (beater off the head between beats).
Nice content bro
Thank you, We have some cool stuff coming up
It sounds like if you decrease the beater length and then decrease spring tension you could basically get the same feel for small bass drums and still hit close to center. I have a 20" bass drum and with too much time on my hands 😊 I tried a riser but didn't like that the beater when it hit the head was way past 90 degrees. Over the past year I bought the Tama HP-50 and Rogers Dyno-matic pedals as you can raise or lower the right side post which are fixed in height on most pedals. The Rogers pedal has so many adjustments that you can spend a lot of time tweaking it while the Tama has much less to adjust. My older pedal is a DW 5000 Turbo and maybe I need to try that again lowering the beater length and decresing spring tension. I wish I got one pedal adjusted that I felt that is it and I don't need to mess with it anymore. 😀
Great explanation. What beater angle is best?
Cool!
Excellent! Do springs get worn out after time? Can I change velocity with a tighter spring? Maybe one that's newer if your old one is maxed out? Thanks in advance cheers for Knoxville
3:43 The axle that the cam lobe is attached to is hexagonal on mine, which effectively gives me 1 single angle that I can set the beater at. Alesis, what the hell is wrong with you?
I really like the video, really wenn explained! There's one thing though where I'm not sure if I'm horribly wrong or there is just a huge mistake at 5:09! The "shorter" the beater is, the LESS resistance there is because there is less mass to move, right?
A common misconception! Taller beater = more mass to counteract the spring tension. Try it yourself, compare a super short beater to the longest setting, see how the resistance compares 🥁
Great video. Got new pedals and feels like I'm just starting to play drums all over again. Frustrating above all else.
Great and informative vid! I’ve been drumming for 20 years, but you would never know it, especially when you hear my loosy goose and sloppy bass drum :(. Can you please outline the best adjustments for someone who has a hard time getting that quick Double, i.e. slide or heel toe technique, is it better to have more spring tension less spring tension, which cam would you recommend, where would best adjustment for the beater to be
Hi there just to let you know that your comment we'll be answered in our comments video dropping later today.
lower spring on the main Pedal(Double Pedal copy setting part) ?
Tama HP600 has interchangeable cam too..
what do you mean ' lower slave pedal spring tension ' ? less resistant ?
Thanks for the tips and explanations.
I am just getting back into drums after some 25 years, and laughed when you said usually the first thing people change is spring tension because that is exactly what I did. I bought a Donner ded-400 electric kit so I don't disturb my neighbors and I felt the peddle that came with the kit was far too lite on the return and I constantly was double tapping the kick drum. I had the spring adjustment maxed out and it was still too lite, I ended up buying another name brand spring and fitting it to my peddle and it feels way better. a much higher spring tension and I no longer have to have it maxed out which is really nice. I am going to see if mine has that angle adjustment to move the beater head closer or futher from the drum. I don't think it had an adjustment there but i will check it out.
My pedal was bugging me a lot. Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Yep
Slightly lower spring tension on which side? Did you mean to say slightly higher on the slave side??
Cool tip a learned from the concert percussion world: Have the beater hit about and inch above or below dead center of the head. Hitting dead center actually cancels some of the tone.
If you are interested why this is the case. The linked video shows the various types vibration a drum can make. Keep in mind that modes can happen at the same time, and that the relative contribution of the various modes makes up what we call tone. Putting the beater off center simply opens the door for the non-symmetric modes, which are not possible if the beater is dead nuts center. czcams.com/video/mPlCXR6NI8I/video.html
Pedal setup is only part of the equation. The surface you are striking has a big part in pedal speed, rebound and feel. Head tension, porting the front head, a pillow inside and other muffling will all affect your pedal feel.
For spring tention on double pedals: our bodies aren't exactly perfectly balanced and sometimes our main leg can be stronger or faster.
That’s a problem I’m dealing with right now because I want to be ambidextrous on my feet. Not very fun when you think you know how to play lol
@@shanelovell1994 Tried getting a clamp to attach your hi hat to your kick?
So my slave pedal keeps moving around eventually skooting up to the leg of my high hat and making a klinking noise any tips on securing the slave pedal ive used the little spikes on the pedal but it slides still was thinking of using zip ties but wondering what others have done
Try using the foot of a cymbal stand behind the pedal to help keep it planted 🙂
Keep an eye out for our upcoming video focussing purely on double pedal setup 👌🎥
Now we need a hats video!
Great idea Steve 💡
I have my spring tension the same on both my bass pedals. The beaters sit at the same height and they are equally far away from the bass drum and yet the left pedal feels like it has more resistance and slower return speed. Are the springs just messed up or am I doing something wrong?
Is this on a double pedal? The driveshaft always causes a mild transmission loss, a slightly lower spring tension on the slave pedal can help out with this 🙂
@@drumdog I’ll give it a try, thanks!
@@drumdog Sorry but, wouldn’t it make more sense to have the slave side tension be greater to make up for transmission loss? Just curious
What kind of key do I need to adjust my foot pedal?
Most drum keys are universally compatible, @jordonpolete7381. If you're adjusting a bass pedal, look for a standard drum key, and you should be set. If there's more to your pedal setup, we've got detailed guides on our site that might help: welcome.drum.dog
How can I slide my pedal up or down the chain I've done it before just having a Brian fart!😂
ТАМА 😎
no one ever talks about how to set up the bass drum itself..,say when , ..the pedal board cannot find a flat position..,and what adjustments have to be made to get it flat.. still elusive on certain Bass drums like the 16 inch Sonor..
Check out the Gibraltar bass drum riser, made for this exact purpose 🙂👌
'Opposite other hand' would be the same hand... I do not follow. If only I knew what you meant..
This guy looks like pewdipie
to be honest I loved piano pedals better. just plain simple
What would you suggest I try to eliminate some kind of unwanted rebound i get from my kick pedal? I mean I kick once and it seems and feels like there's a comeback like a repeated beat, I'm a beginner and it's kind of frustrating.. good video!