Someone removed the ABS light disconnected sensors on this Prevost Drive shaft replacement air leaks
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- The ABS problems were hidden from the buyer of this bus. A shocking discovery of the abs bulb removed and system disconnected. Major air leaks fixed one after another over and over. Rusted through air tanks, leaking fittings, bad valves and more.
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I’m just a driver, but there’s something therapeutic about watching your videos! You do amazing work!
I got hooked on these because here in the Nordic countries Detroit diesels are like unicorns. You hear them in American movies but never on the roads. Our roads are filled with Scania, Volvo, MB, Man etc. engines but I've never heard a Detroit live. That 2-stroke sound is just something special.
Johnathon is one hard working man. You’re so lucky to have him and he is gaining invaluable knowledge from you in the process. Some days he needs a dozen more arms! Bet he sleeps well at the end of the day. Thank god you catch these terribly unsafe vehicles and make them roadworthy again.
Scott, your apprentice is a righteous dude! That was heavy labor all the way! I'm once again impressed and glad that you are addressing all of these safety issues! I'm driving the same highways those buses are! Good on you!
They're doing great, best way to learn is by doing, even better under instruction 🙂
Kinda silent type
It's crazy the amount of neglect and hidden problems that you uncovered here. You guys never cease to do amazing things!!
Definitely a 'hey Lance' moment with the ABS system.
The cost to repair could be more than the purchase price of the bus.
You are making a fine mechanic of the young lad. He is very lucky to be in a 2 man shop. He gets to participate in every aspect of the job. Not to brag or boast but I had the exact experience and when I moved on because of shop closing there was a huge difference between myself and the other apprentices.
Hey guys. As a retired DOT inspector in the UK I can tell you that the ABS inactive is a very serious matter. We would have issued prohibition to take the vehicle off the road until it is fixed! It is also very illegal to use the vehicle in that condition. Thanks for the vids and tour good work.
If the UK's auto inspection standards were applied in the U.S, probably 30% of all vehicles and half of the trailers would be written up for violations of one sort or another. It's a common sight to see tandem-axle equipment trailers with the wheels missing on the front axle and sometimes the front axle itself is missing.
In the late 1990’s I drove commercially based out of Ohio. I drove for Lakefront Lines. We had over 100 coaches which were maintained spectacularly. One morning I had a big long crack in the passenger side window. The mechanic on duty told me to drive it into the shop, over the pit and he would fix it. He took out the seal on the outside, literally kicked it out, and put in a brand new windshield in the same amount of time it took me to do my pre trip.
During the summer, we would often have charters going to Cedar Point (a big roller coaster park on the lake). None of our coaches were red tagged, but a rival coach company would nearly always have half a dozen coaches red tagged because their mechanics would do the electrical tape thing on the dash. Lazy and dangerous.
Good to hear of the companies that do good maintenance
Oh Lakefront Lines is a great company, love seeing them on the road. They take pride in their work, and their coaches are spectacular.
-i don’t work there
The amount of rust is incredible! The person selling this coach should be brought up on criminal charges just for the safety aspect.
Most likely sold "as-is" which removes a lot of liability for problems that pop up.
I am so glad that my 24 year old Monaco dynasty has lived in a dry climate and has absolutely no rust. This bus looks like it truly was driven in a lot of salty roads.
Your man is a work horse! Amazing job. The crows foot on the brass fitting was giving me anxiety. And the AIR leaks!! My God. You guys are Aces
Hi Scott, finding and fixing air leaks is like peeling an onion. The deeper you go the scarier it gets. I'm retired from working on pneumatic systems, no bubbles under pressure is always the gold standard. Keep up the good work, you make the roads safer for all of us.
ABS ~ Absent Bus Safety. WOW...glad you received this bus in your shop. Coming together well. Safety factor has increased ten fold.
So many different and independent problems it’s crazy. Then to find the intentional hidden abs stuff was crazy.
Wow. That is Beyond No Maintenance. How could anyone sell anything that has never been serviced, with a conscience? Thankfully you know your stuff.
That thing was carrying around 40+ passengers until a couple of years ago or a few thousand miles ago. Many of those issues were on that bus
The DOT needs to inspect busses just like any other commercial vehicle on the road. Here in California when they have mandatory stops for busses the inspection stations completely fill up with out of service units not to mention the money the Heavy Tow companies reap in for units that cannot be repaired on site.
Scott once again saving lives out there. What a horribly unsafe thing to have disabled!
I’ve been watching your channel for nearly 2yrs and I enjoy your content. I dont own an RV/bus, but I started watching your channel to get an idea of what repairs are like on a bus. My plan is to buy a bus in two years, and when I do, I will be scheduling a appointment for you to make sure its road ready. Keep up the great work.
That is very hard work gentlemen,,,,,,! I really admire your dedication to this craft. Its heavy, dirty, work... Folks are lucky to have you as a resource for honest work on their rigs. Congratulations on your great content. I am amazed at the results achieved at the end of every repair. Kudos to you and your team Scott..! Thanks for creating this wonderful, and educational, entertainment........
I have to be honest, when I saw that seal I thought it was a window seal hahaha. That’s some oil pan seal.
in a case like this i personally if it was my bus would want it fixed and made correct the abs in my car has saved my butt a few times over the years this is truly a sad situation don’t do this people it definitely cost less to fix in the first place than to have to make it work again
Wow. What a mess. Shows how easy you can get caught out. Looks like nobody gave it any love in its life.
Scott, and Johnathan,
Nice work!
Scott, you should consider advising the owner of that bus to possibly consider going after the seller for the lack of maintenance. If for nothing else, to at least recover the cost of fixing things. Might help them out.
Just a thought.
I'm not going to get long winded on this, I'll just say if this company is still operating, they should be investigated by the state & DOT. That said, Scott, you guys have again gone above and beyond. Another safe & road worthy bus on our roads. As to the as-equpipped from Prevost ABS system, it seems that the only possible way to restore the ABS system would be through a Prevost service center. They should have access to the schematics to rebuild the system if the client wants to pursue it. The fact the company disabled the system is beyond the pale.
They didn't wear out the zerk fittings putting grease in them that's for sure.
Like new condition.
In my experience and its extensive, PCV maintenance is not what you might imagine.
Of course there are great exceptions thank goodness, but the fleet is not new and its very hard to keep up to scratch.
Thank you privatisation
More life's saved, thanks to Scott and crew.
Absolutely wild how much of a disaster this thing was hiding underneath a pretty face
It’s 1/2 the age of most of the buses we work on but way more problems for sure.
Wow! Never seen u-joints done in that way. Guess you had to since it looks like it was a captive u-joint. Great stuff, I really enjoy learning from you guys and it doesn’t cost me a dime for school. You guys are the greatest 😊
Probably never seen a u joint that was a rusted almost 30 year old stuck son of a ….
Watching this entire project is an eye opening experience. Getting a Provost bus seems like a big mistake. So much wrong with it.
Prevost is O.K. This is the result of a previous owner's long term neglect and disabling a safety system while hiding it.
Wow, great work. What an eye opener of a video. It really shows just what a nightmare a badly maintained/bodged up air system can be. I’m guessing that reinstating the ABS system is going to cost an absolute fortune. Removing it was bad form to say the least.
Glad you didn't try to go beyond your capabilities and what is required to get the bus back on the road and past a DOT. ABS is not easy to work on and it xan be a neverending and really expensive repair.
Scott, good on you to be forward-thinking about your potential liability exposure when making the decision to not screw with that butchered ABS system. That was a very sound decision.
Holy moly,
a lot of work might be the understatement of the decade... YIKES, Whattafrkn nightmare..
Kudo's on getting it all functional, great job Jon and Scott.
You guys rock. Bigtime.
Thanx again.
Thanks for keeping safety on your priority list
Repairs are expensive so many people do not repair things, do the cheapest way they can, wire around things rather than repair things, or disconnect things. I am running into this on my RV
Really should wear eye/face protection under there. One speck of rust in your eye, and things shut down fast. Talkin from -miserable- experience.
This is what years of differed maintenance looks like.... truly a wonder it wasn't involved in a helluva accident
This bus has been crazy find after crazy find. The ABS light trickery was just the icing on the cake.
You might want to check out the u-joint removal tool that Harbor Fright has. I don't know about the quality on it, but it s less than the Tiger. When you find these defects it reminds of getting fired for finding and reporting equipment problems at two different companies. Thanks for helping to make roads safer.
Johnathon must not have problem falling asleep at night 😂
I sure hope the buyer didn’t spend that much on that bus based on what you’re finding. If the seller hid the abs issue it makes you wonder about any other buses in their fleet.
Were older buses not required to have ABS and the ABS on this particular bus was an added option? As you said, the bus will pass DOT inspection with the repairs you did without messing with the ABS. Great video. Always appreciate all the time taken to edit these videos so the main steps in repairs are shown. High yield content.
ABS required after 1998.
Not working is a violation
Disabled is a citation
If DOT pushes it, the mechanics could get their cards pulled, further investigation could get the company in hot water.
And he said that it will pass the air brake test, which is proper pressure rise, and minimal pressure loss, within a minute. I believe it’s 2psi released, 3psi applied. It will pass that now. It still won’t pass a level 1 DOT with ABS disabled, though a level 1 is rare, especially on a bus.
@@jaysmith1408 thanks for all the clarification.Much appreciated.
@@Brian-vh7gb very welcome
@@jaysmith1408 Now that it will likely become an RV, NO inspections required! SCARY!
For such a nice looking bus this creature is a bit of a mess. The deal with the disconnected ABS system could be a severe legal matter. If a government mechanic disconnected all that there would be some serious legal matters. The number of air leaks is just mind boggling. Wonder if there is any maintenance records on file for this creature?
Watching this and wondering where are all the women who "Don't need no men" now? This is brutal work!
In lieu of pulling the dash to fix the ABS or check engine lights, I would hook up a small speaker and have it play the world’s most annoying sound as Jim Carrey sounded like in Dumb and Dumber.
Good job
The only thing I can say is...WOW!!
Well my initial thought was “no f’ing way”
The brakes on that thing were a can of worms in every aspect. Just crazy how the ABS was just chopped out and abandoned.
I did not expect to find the abs light and system tampered with
Check the air vent on the rear axle, make sure he won't have rear seals blow out after all that work.
Malfunctioning ABS is worse than no ABS. I can see the reason for disabling the indicator too as tricking the buyer into believing he bought a bus with ABS would also be dishonest.
Yes, people do stuff like include here in canada cut corner.thanks video expose this.😮
I hope the purchase price of this bus was appropriate for all the work that was needed.
Purposely neglecting that ABS system was a big mistake. In my world that would be like just chopping off a major system on a yacht. You're either going to pay for it to be fixed at the outset of the problem or you're going to pay for it in the long run. And in the long run the bill is going to hurt 10 times worse.
It's not a commercial bus now. I'd chuck the dam thing an make it a straight pipe. Kind of thinking in the box. As long as it's safe.
You need to go through those brakes front to back, everything !
Wow abs is expensive
Sounds like there could be demand for "BGM-Approved" pre-inspected buses. Who better to know if a rig is worth buying than you guys?
Hopefully the company that owned this bus before your customer bought it is no longer operating. What a death trap.
Wow not sure if that thing is worth that much work. 😮
When the owner brought it in i told him that if he walked away that day and sold it immediately he would loose the least amount of money. Going forward the money loss would only increase.
Check to see if abs or cel lights work with key on during any test drive
A transponder that broadcasts, "Bus serviced by Bus Grease Monkey" otherwise when I see one of these Bus conversions coming down the road I stay fair away.
Another amazing video, is the owner going to seek recompense from the dealer.
I'm really curious to hear what the owner says about the ABS moving forward? What's the next step? We'll see. Thanks.
As bad as that thing is, it’ll never be done. He’s gonna have problems with that every day he owns it.
I always replaced the straps when replacing the U-joints because they can stretch
One things for sure nothing is easy for anybody that works on a bus I think the only thing harder to work on would be an army tank
Tank parts are just heavy. They don't have ABS or emission controls or much in the way of lights. Busses make tanks look easy.
My nightmare of buying a new vehicle. Looks good, drives ok and then I get it to a mechanic and they find this kind of neglect.
Awesome channel
Hey Scott got a technical question if you don't mind, what do you use on all the air, fuel ,and hydraulic fitting threads on install? Thank you for your videos all ways great content...
On NPT threads we use a permatex product called “right stuff”. Never fails to seal.
@@BusGreaseMonkey thx
Abs wasn't required until 99, and it wasn't long before that, early 80s when abs caused many crashes by failing and releasing the brakes so many mechanics and drivers didn't trust the systems for a long time
build a small air hammer on a floor jack //that they use to break-up cement for power //and move the jack with air cement hammer,-- in place of work// with out a pit to work in .
Abs is good but it crazy not to fix it
I can’t imagine cost involved with the work you have done and not yet finished. And will repairs ever be finished. Or continue to be thing after another
I think it is normal that era there is no ABS on tag axel.
Wowzers seen disabled ABS systems before but this looks like the swankiest one.
So is the bus road worthy in the US with the ABS not working? It's a shame that the chap was miss sold when he bought it
There's some real garbage individuals out there - I couldn't imagine disabling the ABS on any vehicle, much less something of this size, and be ok with that. That's inhumane.
Ratchet strap the drive shaft just to help brace it up so it’s easier to move around getting it off.
Thanks for the video.
I'm SURE you said you were going to do this over the pit!
It was 105° heat index outside on the pit. 70° in the air conditioning in the shop.
Previous commercial owner should be named and publicly shamed. Seems to be the only option that works
I do not think I will ever Ride a motor coach operated by a commercial operator again "the sketchy operators" that Doctor their buses just to be cheap skates is amazing
not a bit of RTV to hold that gasket in? I know its not needed but I still like a bit
Jaysus, where was that coach in service? East Claptrapistan?
Salt lake city.
@@BusGreaseMonkey No surprise, they still salt the roads in the winter.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Well, they don't call it Salt Lake for nothing. I had a part time job for years driving for a charter and tour company , and Peter Pan Bus Lines in central Massachusetts , and I've never seen such a rusted under carriage of a motor coach.
29:35
Cue screaming goat
maybe they got by with it because ABS was optional on that year/model?
the Driver = original ABS. 🤪
Salt water flood, I have never seen a car this much saltwater damage
Every 10-minute job is one broken bolt from becoming a 3-week long sob, cry, and curse-fest of frustration......
The drive shaft bolts were a definite concern about breaking. Thank goodness they came out.
The rust bucket bus .
lol that bus was living in a salt mine
I'm thinking they parked it in the ocean every night! I'm from Maine and that amount of rust is shocking. How did it ever pass any sort of safety inspection. Just terrifying that these things are on the road with us little guys!
It looks like it did a lot of winter driving in a place that used road salt and then never flushed the undercarriage.
Grease fittings seem really dry!
Never touched it looked like
Shhh11!!! That bus is one of the reasons why I feel much safer here than in US! That bus would not have pass inspection in YEARS! Regardless if it is in commercial or private use. And btw those inspections are mandatory and not a joke! More than a little rust on important places? Fail! Brakes dont work evenly? Fail! Airbag light on? Fail! Airbag light not on at all at start? Fail! Most likely same with ABS light, but I have not personal experience about that. Airbag light I do.
I check the regulation and yes ABS light needs to be on at start, but turn then off.
It clearly was passing inspections because this just came out of revenue service during covid. Only a few thousand miles ago. The bus companies can do their own inspections. I would love to see their operation. Stop by and do a pre purchase inspection on a vehicle they are selling. If you remember or saw a previous video on this bus i mentioned three guys bought buses at the same time. One burned to the ground on the trip home from buying it.
@@BusGreaseMonkey Sorry I did meant to say It would not have pass inspection here in Finland in years. To me it feels really odd that firms can do inspections to their own vehicles, it is not possible here! and also other way, inspection firms can't repair vehicles. I think that would be nice video idea to do a pre purchase inspection. This is also not the first time that I am like whhhahaattt?`How that pile of junk did pass inspection? This has happened on multiple youtube channels. Anyway that bus is way better now, even without ABS. Yes I did see that video, wild!
For some applications air tanks have an expiry (or inspect/re-test) date - does this apply to buses?
What year is this bus? What day and month was it made?
That driveshaft is a thing of beauty. Will it rust like that?
Put the Kroil on it before you drive it back in
We did it in and out
So what are you doing with the air tanks?Do you go stainless steel or mild steel
Ordered new ones from the manufacturer. $150 ish each
Wether it was private or comercial use any accident even if not there fault wont get paid because critical factory safety gear was disabled ul probs end up even being liable even if not ur fault and noones insurance will cover it so ud b paying out of pocket big time and in n out of court. Who ever sold this bus like this should b jailed
Nice job Gents! What’s the brand of channel lock pliers are you using (specifically during the universal joint removal)?
Cobra from knipex
Nobody ever did an underbody wash on that.