Always love your videos AMD! And it was nice to catch up with you last week! I love my Tundra TRD Pro for many reasons you pointed out, but still can't believe the "reverse D" defect I had on the hood emblem. It's definitely a solid truck and after driving the Ford F-150 and the Chevy Silverado this week side by side with the Tundra, it seems Toyota did its homework in coming up with a "balanced" truck that hits the sweet spot.
Thank you for the videos AMD. These trucks have issues and Toyota has really dropped the ball on quality control. I picked up my 2023 Platinum last week. It spent 4 out of the 8 days I had it at the dealership. Build date was 11/22. When I drove it home from the dealership I felt the suspension bottom out twice. Turns out that the air suspension was out of spec and it was not adjusted correctly from the factory per the dealership. They verified and performed a TSB for it. That fixed the issue. Then my A Pillar began to rattle incessantly. The dealer found that the clips were broken inside the A Pillar. The dealer put foam inside it because toyota told them they didn’t have the clips available to fix it due to shortages. The rattling continued. Then my center console got worse. They rattle straight out of the factory and it got worse in the 8 days I owned it. The dealer put felt inside. It helped by about 50%. On the way home from the dealership service the drivers side window started to whistle bad. I rolled it up and down many times and it wouldn’t go away. The next day I drove for about 2 hours and the front seats have a horizontal support bar positioned way too far back towards the seat back. If your anatomy isn’t just right, you’ll be sitting on a thinly padded bar. The seats are poorly designed with minimal padding. That was the last straw and I took a hit and sold it back to the dealer and lost a couple grand in the taxes I paid. Well worth getting rid of it. Toyota may get this right in a few years but I’d highly recommend staying away from this truck right now. We own a newer highlander and a Venza and they’re great. So im not a toyota hater. And I owned a 2004 tundra for 15 trouble free years waiting for this new generation. Very disappointing.
Wow that’s heart breaking and very upsetting ! I think you likely did the right thing getting rid of that truck sounds like possibly a lemon to me. I also own 2 Toyota products 2018 tundra and 2015 rx450 h Lexus and sold my 2006 tacoma and love them all with very little issues. I think Toyota will get their act together ,it may just take a couple years to get the bugs out! If they don’t get their act together people will shop elsewhere. I buy Toyota because of their reliability, and keep it simple style ,and will continue to do so until they stop being reliable, then I’m done!
Very unusual i have a 22 pro no rattles wind noise whats so ever and no problem with the seats also just a great truck with now 5 k in miles on it milage is getting better every day with winter gas mix should be much better with summer blind next year
@@philipkolatis3611 not that unusual. Glad you got a good one. Reports of these issues are all over the place and the dealers are starting to hear about it. Being a long time toyota owner I’m spoiled with good quality vehicles.
What happens when as a company, you take a $39000 vehicle and tack on $3000 worth of silly add-ons and charge $64000 for it. It compares to something from maybe 5 years ago which would have been criticized for cheapness even at $29000.
AMD Another great video on the Tundra Trd Pro. You have to own or drive one of these trucks to appreciate how they drive and the quality that Toyota has put in them and the thought process that goes into designing these trucks. I appreciate your knowledge and the wisdom that you put in creating these videos for us - keep them coming as they are a gold mine. Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
I just haven’t warmed up to these new Tundra’s! From the total lack of recovery hooks on their “ Off Road” models to the wastegate issues on the turbo’s plus the fact that many 5.7 V8’s have gone over a million miles. Talk to me about this truck when one reaches one million miles & maybe I’ll be a believer? I’ve seen many videos on CZcams of these trucks going off road & literally were falling apart ! 😂
@@stevenlefebvre2991 I don't like this one either. Our 2020 TRD feels much better and natural. Nobody knows how long these turbo engines and hybrid systems are going to tolerate the constant towing. It didn't improve any MPG rates either.
No v6 turbo is gonna be stronger then a v8. V6 truck it’s not a factory choice, it’s the government choice. The more technology it’s on added to a vehicle the more parts are going to fail. If you drive like grandpa a v6 will give you better mpg then a v8 for sure, but if you are towing the v8 will be better. I used to have a 08 tundra and the mpg was horrible even driving like a grandpa So the problem it’s the government and technology. 🤷🏻♂️
@@pelecho hi Antonio. I also love the V8 tundra. I have a 1917 and a 2021 and the 21 model gets pretty good mileage around 19 on the highway and 16 around town so that’s not too bad for a V-8. And I don’t drive like a grandpa. Even when I’m doing 90 miles an hour on the highway it’s still gets about 17 miles per gallon. There’s nothing wrong with that. The V6 turbo kick in at that mile Per hour and you get horrible mileage. I love my V-8 tundras.
You all know moving to twin turbo was not toyta? All the auto makers are under extreme pressure to get better gas milage, lower emissions etc... Even it means throwing common sense out the window... Plenty of v8 tundras out there! I would be super super hesitate being a new power train
Just few things that were poorly executed: 1. No tow hooks 2. No bed step on bumper. 3. Subscription based maps and remote starter. 4. Moved cruise control on to steering wheel. 5. No mechanical linkage for tailgate operation. 6. Wireless phone charger too far away. 7. No front differential lock, as Chevrolet now has. 8. Almost forgot, reliably issues already. *edit* 9. Was reminded about no V8 option. (Was the entire reason I purchased a 2021 Tundra) And ...yes our 2021 4runner TRD Off Road makes use of the Rear Locker regularly.
You can get tow hooks 😂🤣. Who cares about a front locker. 99.99% of people don’t even need a rear locker. All trucks have teething issues when they first come out. Don’t be a cuck
As always an excellent full review including the chassis. Hope your beautiful new shop is doing well. Wishing you and yours all the best during the holiday season.
Our father has a 2020 Tundra TRD. It is incredibly good. But we will never buy this new generation. No V8, two turbos and/or hybrid batteries to worry about after 200K-300K. Nobody knows how constant towing will treat those new technologies in 4-5 years. The cost cuts in the 2022 are also very noticeable. The famous interior rattles and squeaks reflect the cheap plastics you have shown. I have been very disappointed with Toyota quality ever since most of their 2018 models.
No they won’t fix it. It is engrained in today’s DNA of Toyota. Been buying Toyota’s since ‘96 up to ‘17. I have seen the interior materials quality, fit and finish slowly go down hill over the years. The last Toyota I bought was ‘17 Tacoma. I would much rather buy well maintained used Toyota than a new one. The reason used Toyota’s hold their value is nobody who wants quality will buy the new crap.
I have a 2019 Tundra that is solid as a rock, and a 2022 N450h+ that is super well built with very good quality interior materials. The wife has a 2019 R350 and same thing….Toyota is having issues with the current Tundra, but they will fix it with time, they always do.
Great review. They need to put 12v outlets above the rear view mirror (upper console) for dash cams and radar detectors. That would clean up the cords running down to the dash.
AMD...Went to my local Toyota dealer this morning. They said I should replace the spark plugs on my 2014 Avalon. Price: $269.00!! Why so expense, do they have to remove the engine! (joke). Anyway, after they checked my prior service, they said... no they were replaced at 115,000. Bottom line, my Avalon has 150,247 miles... still no rec's from the dealer for any work to be done. Even my brakes are fine... no prior work ever done! Thank you again for your CZcams videos!
I'm the lucky owner of a 2023 Solar Octane Tundra TRD Pro (purchased at MSRP, score!). I test drove a Capstone prior to buying mine. 2 things I wish it had: heated/cooled rear seats for the kiddos, and the mood lighting. Otherwise...amazing vehicle.
Obviously you haven’t test driven this new turbo V6 truck. I still have my old 5.7 from 2008 but will be gifting it to my father. This new Tundra will do well.
2 things that are really obvious and a big negative, 1.) MPG, I expected so much better being a 10spd, V6 engine or even the hybrid engine is really a disappointment. 2.) Price just not a $70K truck, or what I expect a 70k truck to be.
Fake engine sounds through the speakers???! What the heck is up with that?! That's like driving around in an EV with engine sounds coming through the speakers lol..... just stupid.
Great video as always. Yesterday, in the Consumer Reports magazine, which normally is quite favorable to Toyota's products, I noted that they listed the Tundra as a 'don't buy' because of poor reliability issues. If so, I think that these are just assembly glitches for the new model and will be resolved by Toyota.
@TheMrDudiness Great comment. Unfortunately Toyota has fallen upon its old formula, using a hybrid more as a poor substitute for a super charger rather than for fuel saving. It would have been better if they used a system similar to the Rav-4 Prime that used the battery to give a powerful boost, and allow electric only operation for a few miles. This could have been done in place of a turbo, and the longevity of the V-6 might’ve been legendary. The turbo V-6 by the way was one of worst trouble spots mentioned by CU.
I'm surprised people still give Consumer Reports a dime of their money - they're a shell of their former self for how unreliable they have become, and charging people out of the wazoo for diminishing information? No thanks.
You showing the poor fit and finish of this truck is why I watch your channel. I noticed it twice with two separate tundras I saw at the dealer waiting for my Toyota care service (which btw is a whole mother story. The tech put 4.9 quarts in my 1.8 which calls for 4.4. The 2.0 takes 4.9) most channels floss over the troubled things.
@@user-3tf67bk46u Yeah the 1.8 is fine. Not overfilled enough to do anything. Oil came out fine no foam or bubbles etc. still shows incompetence. Only reason I get it done at the dealer is because it’s free for the first two years. They do 10k mile oil changes but that’s absurd so I do one between them doing one because 5k is enough for my cars.
@@user-3tf67bk46u Absolutely. It’s crazy. That’s why I don’t like to buy used and would for sure not buy a lease return. A vehicle is expensive. And for a full synthetic change with good filter it only costs me about 30 dollars to change the corollas oil.
@@timcunningham6932 doubt it this tundra will still out last any truck the big 3 puts out . GM with lifters 8spd auto issues , Ford eco trash 🗑️ still having cam phasers issues , having to replace the timing sets before 150k or a 10speed auto that shudder you out the driver seat. And for Ram with electric issues, hemi’s also having lifers problems . Yea I’ll stay with Toyota 😄
@oliverramclam6009 I don't think it will outlast the big 3. The past generation yes but not this one. Reliability rates are already down and keep dropping. It's not more reliable than the Ford or GM trucks anymore. Sad to see cause I'm a Togota fan
#1 can't really tow, gets worst gas mileage towing than the V8. The twin turbo V6 3.4 liter engine is probably one of the worst idea Toyota have come up with in recently. Could have gone with a turbo V8 instead.
AMD, Did you borrow this TRD Pro from David at Automotive Press? 😉 You focused on the T-O-Y-O-T-A printed on the front grille and dash. On a white pickup like this, I think the classic company 'signature' is the word TOYOTA written in red letters across the tailgate. 🤩 As a truck, my only real concern with the Tundra is the shrunken interior which is a very common theme in every Toyota that has come along in the last 5 years.
I wish there was a badge somewhere mentioning that it is a TRD. I wonder who is the target audience. If it’s a work truck, what is the point of all the gimmicks? If it’s a luxury segment vehicle, what is the point of all the gimmicks?
I wanted a Tundra for years; what's not to like about Toyota reliability, and full size truck capabilities? The issue is that I can not bring myself to pay the asking price for trucks for one; nor can I abide this move to turbo V6's as opposed to V8's. They are being marketed as equal power with more fuel efficiency, but the numbers I see don't bear that out. My V6 mini van get approximately the same gas mileage as my 6.2L LS powered car, and with that I get more torque and horsepower. The Tundra has been plagued with issues with the turbo since it was released; that in combination with "supply chain issues" and parts shortages means that you could pay upwards of 60 to 70, or even close 80k for a truck that may or may not be on the road long before a long down time. I get the warranty argument but down time means you're paying monthly payments and interest on a vehicle you can't even drive. I have a great friend that is as big a Toyota fan as I am and is so mad that he bought this truck. He paid about 68k, and put less than 5k miles on it before the turbo issue reared it's head and grounded him for 7 months. They supposedly had to remove the cab to get to the turbos and do the repair, and this was after months of waiting for parts. Part of the issues is this rush to push the green and renewable energy movement forward at a greater cost to the consumer. I am all for renewable energy and reduction of green house gases and pollution, but when the technology is ready and completely viable.
The green activists don't care one bit whether things are ready for prime time or not. They would just as soon you not have your own vehicle anyway and instead take public transportation. We need to resist these earth worshipping extremists
You need to stop exaggerating on the turbo problems since the wastegate was a small issue and it's already been fixed. You either go EV or Turbo, it's up to you to decide since Toyota is still trying to save combustion engine and all you do is complain.
@@jasonthach44 😂 Did it bother you when someone says something about Toyota? What he said it is true and it takes a while to get parts since Toyota has to replace the turbo because of the waste gate issues, the hot fix for it is an update which does not fix it but prevents it from happening while you have warranty, another smart move from Toyota 👍
Great Video. I am a new subscriber as I just found your channel and I'm enjoying your videos. I have a 2008 Tundra V8 4.7 I bought new and absolutely love it with just about 180,000 on it. I love the way the new Tundras look but without that V8 option I will not buy another as I feel pickup trucks of .5 ton or higher really need that bigger engine. Also I am not sold on anything Hybrid, it has its goods but also bads. Keep the Hybrid in the F1 cars and off the streets lol. Anyway thank you for sharing and I look forward to watching more! Stay safe and well!
Everyone is bashing on the turbo reliability, but forget that every heavy duty diesel these days is turbo. All the semi trucks racking up millions of miles are turbo, and a majority of working boats like tugs and tow boats have turbos… I just don’t understand the freaking out so many people are doing
I live up North Minnesota, please make some video for TRD PRO how to warm up in mornings, how to efficiently use this new system because I watched your other video and it’s not 100% typical hybrid. Thanks a lot.
It is a sexy looking truck for sure. Looks awesome. I still think I will hold on to my 2017 tundra with a 5.7 and my 2006 with 4.7L. All electrical crap and sensors and batteries are not gonna be cheap to replace after warranty is out. And working on hybrid system is not something backyard mechanic should mess with. These are still awesome trucks hands down
100% man. One of my previous cars was a 2007 Camry LE hybrid. Needed a battery replacement at 197K miles. That was a $7K job from the cheapest mechanic I found. I was lucky to re-sell it for $2500 and buy a 2008 SE with a dealer-fixed 2.4L engine without the oil burning issue. That 2008 still drives like new at 210K and 14 years later. 0 issues.
I'd love one of those 1st gen Tundra's with the 4.7L. I think they are a perfect size. Question though, why do you have both a 1st gen and 2nd gen Tundra?
@@flight2k5They are reliable but include a heavy and polluting battery that costs more than replacing an entire engine. The regenerative hybrid tech is also more expensive to diagnose and repair than average mechanical components.
I just traded my 22 TRD PRO for a 23 Platinum Hybrid. Couldn't be happier. My truck is a pavement princess. My platinum is more than capable of tackling the occasional dirt road I go on in MUCH more comfort. Both trucks are about the same price. I'm 43 not 25. Give me creature comforts over fox shocks I'll never use any day! :D
I PERSONALLY love "Tacos" better. I jst like the look. Sayn this, I agree w/TRD version, dont like chrome on trucks. If I WANTED a truck, price is way out of MY pocket book. I guess the black door handles is like the Toyota's nite shades. Great analysis! 👍🇺🇸
LAND CRUISER question Toyota is unable to repair our 2014 (purchased new) intermittent wipers. They work while stopped in traffic but stop working while moving. Toyota pretty much gave up. Any ideas. Love your videos been a subscriber forever. Love your new shop too looks super nice You deserve success with all your hard work thanks
I got a third-gen SR5 with the TRD Off-Road premium package and some other bits...it's the best of both worlds and no hybrid, moonroof or gaudy Pro red trim. However, I had a second-gen SR5 and there were many things about the interior that seemed better than the new trucks. Regardless, It's a far better ride and the improved torque is noticeable. The over-engineering of the rear suspension is impressive.
I just can't warm up to this truck. The 1st thing you see getting into one is the cost cutting door handles. No recovery hooks on the Off Road not a good thing. All that black plastic on the exterior is a trun off. How about some steps built into the bumper. For the price I would want more.
I bought a 2023 Tundra SR5 TRD off road package. Dealer and toyota rep told me that the payload on mine is 1819 pounds, however the sticker on the door jamb specify 1395 pounds. Can u please help me understand why the number on the sticker is so low. ?
Thank you for all you do. I have a 2020 TRD Pro 4runner and the fit/finish is perfect! Have you heard any rumors of the Land Cruiser coming back to the U.S.?
Thanks for another Great video about a Great TRUCK, Yes haters I called it a TRUCK. I got my new 22 Tundra TRUCK last month and I am super thrilled with everything about it. I know it will give me 10 years of great service and the next owner many many more.
I wish they would have made the TRD Pro in a 6.5ft bed model! Has any heard why they did that? Is it because it would have not have had as good offroad numbers, which would reflect onto the 5.5ft bed model.
That's one big fugly angry truck. I will keep my '17 tacoma. I despise that grille. It's a non-starter. And a hybrid to boot. I hope Toyota likes these because they will own these for a long time.
Hi Ahmed! I really enjoy watching all your videos and I've learned alot. And if there's one thing I have learned is about the importance of checking and changing my oil. It's #1. I have a 2018 Tacoma and we all know where and how that oil filter service is done. And the Tacoma TRD Skid Plate has a door to access the oil filter. So, I wondered why you didn't show the location of the oil filter on the Tundra when I noticed the Tundra TRD Skid Plate does not appear to have the same door. Also, you didn't show us the Engine Compartment. (Always love to see the engine). And too, you show us the ginormous fuel tank but, what is the capacity? Maybe a "tech quickie" video to supplement?
I couldn't imagine off-roading in a nice new truck like that. To me, I'd want an older truck so I wouldn't have to worry about messing it up. I don't like the camo in black trim either.
IF in 2024 the PRO improves the overall quality then I may trade up until then my 22’ TRD off-road (painted door handles & no camouflage wheel flares) with top option package @ $58,6K this value package makes the $70K PRO look overpriced IMO.
Great video as always. I’m glad I got to experience Toyota’s rise in the late 70s and their hay days of the 80s because I will never own another new one after buying a 2021 Tacoma. I’ll keep my 85 and 88 running forever and leave them to my kids. While some will really like this truck, I see it as a gigantic example of how Toyota lost it’s way. 1. Expensive beyond the reach of 95% of buyers 2. TRD Overbadging 3. Fake exhaust noise- really? 4. Poor quality control 5. Electrical nightmare past warranty period 6. Turbo failure imminent I fully expect to see repair videos on this truck in the coming years (and Toyota will reap those costs as well)
You forgot to mentioned........a lot of these Toyota's are now built in Mexico/ U.S. and Canada. Only if they were build in Japan like most older ones....the fit to finished would be Superior! Quality control and etc!
Have the same issue with the dash corner by the vent. I thought it was just mine. I also have that window trim issue. I have the limited trdoffroad. I want the trd pro but really looking forward to the trailhunter model. Thank you again for your reviews and honesty. I agree with the arm rest on the doors. Fantastic idea. I wish the analog cluster was more up to date. Especially would like the boost gauge. Did any of the models you drove have squeaking brakes?
The TRD Pro 2023 is my favorite truck ever made!!! I have mine pre-ordered. I LOVE everything about this truck! Perfect is the word I’d use to describe it.
Another Great Video AMD ! I was under the impression that Toyota reserves the Block TOYOTA lettering on the grill of only the toughest and top model that’s available for that production year .. thought I read that somewhere .. is that a new lift you have the Tundra on ?
If given the choice to keep a vehicle for the next 15+ years, used for towing an Airstream camper, less than 5k miles total use per year, which would u choose: 2021 Sequoia Platinum 4WD or 2023 Sequoia Capstone 4WD? I love my 2021 and that it’s NA V8, but hate not having the 360 camera, parking sensors, rear cross traffic alert/braking, heated steering wheel, and seats that actually cooled effectively, else my 2021 is flawless for me.
If those add one are that important to you, then might as well get the new gen. Personally, the price difference might not make it worth it, but if you have the cash, then go for it.
Appreciate the new Tundra deep-dive videos - thank you! I have a 2023 1794 and LOVE it!
This is probably one of the best simple video about the new Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I totally agree on the good and bad things that were pointed out.
Always love your videos AMD! And it was nice to catch up with you last week! I love my Tundra TRD Pro for many reasons you pointed out, but still can't believe the "reverse D" defect I had on the hood emblem. It's definitely a solid truck and after driving the Ford F-150 and the Chevy Silverado this week side by side with the Tundra, it seems Toyota did its homework in coming up with a "balanced" truck that hits the sweet spot.
Now come on, you can't leave us hanging on the "reverse D" defect...???
@@ScrewThisGlueThat He has a couple of videos on it. The D in TRD on the hood badging was backwards. Ended up getting it fixed.
@@ScrewThisGlueThat Please watch my explanation here: czcams.com/video/-2uFENJTt3Q/video.html
Thank you for the videos AMD. These trucks have issues and Toyota has really dropped the ball on quality control. I picked up my 2023 Platinum last week. It spent 4 out of the 8 days I had it at the dealership. Build date was 11/22. When I drove it home from the dealership I felt the suspension bottom out twice. Turns out that the air suspension was out of spec and it was not adjusted correctly from the factory per the dealership. They verified and performed a TSB for it. That fixed the issue. Then my A Pillar began to rattle incessantly. The dealer found that the clips were broken inside the A Pillar. The dealer put foam inside it because toyota told them they didn’t have the clips available to fix it due to shortages. The rattling continued. Then my center console got worse. They rattle straight out of the factory and it got worse in the 8 days I owned it. The dealer put felt inside. It helped by about 50%. On the way home from the dealership service the drivers side window started to whistle bad. I rolled it up and down many times and it wouldn’t go away. The next day I drove for about 2 hours and the front seats have a horizontal support bar positioned way too far back towards the seat back. If your anatomy isn’t just right, you’ll be sitting on a thinly padded bar. The seats are poorly designed with minimal padding. That was the last straw and I took a hit and sold it back to the dealer and lost a couple grand in the taxes I paid. Well worth getting rid of it. Toyota may get this right in a few years but I’d highly recommend staying away from this truck right now. We own a newer highlander and a Venza and they’re great. So im not a toyota hater. And I owned a 2004 tundra for 15 trouble free years waiting for this new generation. Very disappointing.
Wow that’s heart breaking and very upsetting ! I think you likely did the right thing getting rid of that truck sounds like possibly a lemon to me. I also own 2 Toyota products 2018 tundra and 2015 rx450 h Lexus and sold my 2006 tacoma and love them all with very little issues. I think Toyota will get their act together ,it may just take a couple years to get the bugs out! If they don’t get their act together people will shop elsewhere. I buy Toyota because of their reliability, and keep it simple style ,and will continue to do so until they stop being reliable, then I’m done!
Very unusual i have a 22 pro no rattles wind noise whats so ever and no problem with the seats also just a great truck with now 5 k in miles on it milage is getting better every day with winter gas mix should be much better with summer blind next year
@@philipkolatis3611 not that unusual. Glad you got a good one. Reports of these issues are all over the place and the dealers are starting to hear about it. Being a long time toyota owner I’m spoiled with good quality vehicles.
What happens when as a company, you take a $39000 vehicle and tack on $3000 worth of silly add-ons and charge $64000 for it. It compares to something from maybe 5 years ago which would have been criticized for cheapness even at $29000.
Rattles seem to be a problem at Toyota now. I bought a 21 Highlander for my wife. We wanted a well built, quality suv. Big disappointment
Great review 👍You really know your stuff and I like the fact that you are honest.
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Your narration and humor are always great.
They used to say Toyota in the front pre 1991. Then the Toyota logo. I like that Toyota letters are coming back
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AMD Another great video on the Tundra Trd Pro. You have to own or drive one of these trucks to appreciate how they drive and the quality that Toyota has put in them and the thought process that goes into designing these trucks. I appreciate your knowledge and the wisdom that you put in creating these videos for us - keep them coming as they are a gold mine. Merry Christmas and happy holidays.
Look at their prices how expensive they got they just like every other car manufacturer now there's not a deal on the price
I just haven’t warmed up to these new Tundra’s! From the total lack of recovery hooks on their “ Off Road” models to the wastegate issues on the turbo’s plus the fact that many 5.7 V8’s have gone over a million miles. Talk to me about this truck when one reaches one million miles & maybe I’ll be a believer? I’ve seen many videos on CZcams of these trucks going off road & literally were falling apart ! 😂
I totally agree with you I have the older version and they are rocksolid I don’t like this new version tundra at all.
@@stevenlefebvre2991 I don't like this one either. Our 2020 TRD feels much better and natural. Nobody knows how long these turbo engines and hybrid systems are going to tolerate the constant towing. It didn't improve any MPG rates either.
No v6 turbo is gonna be stronger then a v8. V6 truck it’s not a factory choice, it’s the government choice. The more technology it’s on added to a vehicle the more parts are going to fail. If you drive like grandpa a v6 will give you better mpg then a v8 for sure, but if you are towing the v8 will be better. I used to have a 08 tundra and the mpg was horrible even driving like a grandpa So the problem it’s the government and technology. 🤷🏻♂️
@@pelecho hi Antonio. I also love the V8 tundra. I have a 1917 and a 2021 and the 21 model gets pretty good mileage around 19 on the highway and 16 around town so that’s not too bad for a V-8. And I don’t drive like a grandpa. Even when I’m doing 90 miles an hour on the highway it’s still gets about 17 miles per gallon. There’s nothing wrong with that. The V6 turbo kick in at that mile Per hour and you get horrible mileage. I love my V-8 tundras.
You all know moving to twin turbo was not toyta? All the auto makers are under extreme pressure to get better gas milage, lower emissions etc... Even it means throwing common sense out the window... Plenty of v8 tundras out there! I would be super super hesitate being a new power train
What a great overhaul review. Thank you. Even watched it twice.
I made my decision to get the pro because of you. Thank you.
Just few things that were poorly executed:
1. No tow hooks
2. No bed step on bumper.
3. Subscription based maps and remote starter.
4. Moved cruise control on to steering wheel.
5. No mechanical linkage for tailgate operation.
6. Wireless phone charger too far away.
7. No front differential lock, as Chevrolet now has.
8. Almost forgot, reliably issues already.
*edit* 9. Was reminded about no V8 option. (Was the entire reason I purchased a 2021 Tundra)
And ...yes our 2021 4runner TRD Off Road makes use of the Rear Locker regularly.
You can get tow hooks 😂🤣. Who cares about a front locker. 99.99% of people don’t even need a rear locker. All trucks have teething issues when they first come out. Don’t be a cuck
@@wangwang2003 yea the f150 doesn’t get crazy better gas mileage. Who cares about the app. Fords are garbage.
9. Interior plastic, Interior plastic, Interior plastic
10. Fake leather
11. Battery under back seat means no under seat storage
No V8
No manual transmission
@@jw8578 🤣🙄 what doesn’t have interior plastic. It’s not fake leather. Do you have sand in your clit?
As always an excellent full review including the chassis. Hope your beautiful new shop is doing well. Wishing you and yours all the best during the holiday season.
Our father has a 2020 Tundra TRD. It is incredibly good. But we will never buy this new generation. No V8, two turbos and/or hybrid batteries to worry about after 200K-300K. Nobody knows how constant towing will treat those new technologies in 4-5 years. The cost cuts in the 2022 are also very noticeable. The famous interior rattles and squeaks reflect the cheap plastics you have shown. I have been very disappointed with Toyota quality ever since most of their 2018 models.
I agree 100 percent ..my dad has owned a few gens. He bought a 2021 5.7 and said I'll die with this truck because the new ones are trash.
It’s why you don’t by the first year. They will fix it and the truck will be more efficient than the older ones.
No they won’t fix it. It is engrained in today’s DNA of Toyota. Been buying Toyota’s since ‘96 up to ‘17. I have seen the interior materials quality, fit and finish slowly go down hill over the years. The last Toyota I bought was ‘17 Tacoma. I would much rather buy well maintained used Toyota than a new one.
The reason used Toyota’s hold their value is nobody who wants quality will buy the new crap.
Never say never………
I have a 2019 Tundra that is solid as a rock, and a 2022 N450h+ that is super well built with very good quality interior materials. The wife has a 2019 R350 and same thing….Toyota is having issues with the current Tundra, but they will fix it with time, they always do.
Great review. They need to put 12v outlets above the rear view mirror (upper console) for dash cams and radar detectors. That would clean up the cords running down to the dash.
Dream truck but man the prices are ridiculous even without the dealer mark ups.
I'm cheap so I would rather get a used V8 Tundra
I like how TRD pro badging is so subtle
In line with the understated nature of this monster truck 🤣
AMD...Went to my local Toyota dealer this morning. They said I should replace the spark plugs on my 2014 Avalon. Price: $269.00!! Why so expense, do they have to remove the engine! (joke). Anyway, after they checked my prior service, they said... no they were replaced at 115,000. Bottom line, my Avalon has 150,247 miles... still no rec's from the dealer for any work to be done. Even my brakes are fine... no prior work ever done!
Thank you again for your CZcams videos!
I'm the lucky owner of a 2023 Solar Octane Tundra TRD Pro (purchased at MSRP, score!). I test drove a Capstone prior to buying mine. 2 things I wish it had: heated/cooled rear seats for the kiddos, and the mood lighting. Otherwise...amazing vehicle.
I love my '16 TRD Pro Tundo. Don't imagine i'd ever get a new one at the prices they are fetching now unfortunately.
Same here. 7 years later and still no problems. I'm keeping it for forever.
Fair and honest. All the points brought up are valid
I could without any of the Red in the Cab Part of this Truck..😎
The red interior is optional. All black is the other option.
Your videos are very refreshing and stand out from the typical sells guy/ amateur owner videos.
If this came with the V8 option still I would have considered it
Obviously you haven’t test driven this new turbo V6 truck. I still have my old 5.7 from 2008 but will be gifting it to my father. This new Tundra will do well.
2 things that are really obvious and a big negative, 1.) MPG, I expected so much better being a 10spd, V6 engine or even the hybrid engine is really a disappointment. 2.) Price just not a $70K truck, or what I expect a 70k truck to be.
Loved this review. This guy speaks to me.
Agreed re the cheap parts, very frustrating considering the price point.
I went with an 2023 SR5 No issues so far. I'm not a fan of the red interior, but to each their own.
Fake engine sounds through the speakers???! What the heck is up with that?! That's like driving around in an EV with engine sounds coming through the speakers lol..... just stupid.
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Raptor did it 1st ..agree though, not a good idea.
Great video as always. Yesterday, in the Consumer Reports magazine, which normally is quite favorable to Toyota's products, I noted that they listed the Tundra as a 'don't buy' because of poor reliability issues. If so, I think that these are just assembly glitches for the new model and will be resolved by Toyota.
It was definitely a rough launch, like the 2016 Tacoma. Good news is the issues are under warranty.
@TheMrDudiness Great comment. Unfortunately Toyota has fallen upon its old formula, using a hybrid more as a poor substitute for a super charger rather than for fuel saving. It would have been better if they used a system similar to the Rav-4 Prime that used the battery to give a powerful boost, and allow electric only operation for a few miles. This could have been done in place of a turbo, and the longevity of the V-6 might’ve been legendary. The turbo V-6 by the way was one of worst trouble spots mentioned by CU.
@@andybub45 it doesn't look like they are.
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@@ronkemperful … a hybrid that is a gas guzzler. No thanks.
I'm surprised people still give Consumer Reports a dime of their money - they're a shell of their former self for how unreliable they have become, and charging people out of the wazoo for diminishing information? No thanks.
Maybe in my next life, I'll be able to afford something this nice.
You showing the poor fit and finish of this truck is why I watch your channel. I noticed it twice with two separate tundras I saw at the dealer waiting for my Toyota care service (which btw is a whole mother story. The tech put 4.9 quarts in my 1.8 which calls for 4.4. The 2.0 takes 4.9) most channels floss over the troubled things.
@@user-3tf67bk46u Yeah the 1.8 is fine. Not overfilled enough to do anything. Oil came out fine no foam or bubbles etc. still shows incompetence. Only reason I get it done at the dealer is because it’s free for the first two years. They do 10k mile oil changes but that’s absurd so I do one between them doing one because 5k is enough for my cars.
@@user-3tf67bk46u Absolutely. It’s crazy. That’s why I don’t like to buy used and would for sure not buy a lease return. A vehicle is expensive. And for a full synthetic change with good filter it only costs me about 30 dollars to change the corollas oil.
“If you don’t know what TRD pro is we have problems”😂
My 2023 sr5 is definitely getting that grill
Great video. I wanted a TRD Tundra pro but the markups were ridiculous. So I ended up with a 2022 Tundra Platinum loving the truck tho
You made a mistake, you’re truck will have quality issues !
@@timcunningham6932 doubt it this tundra will still out last any truck the big 3 puts out . GM with lifters 8spd auto issues , Ford eco trash 🗑️ still having cam phasers issues , having to replace the timing sets before 150k or a 10speed auto that shudder you out the driver seat. And for Ram with electric issues, hemi’s also having lifers problems . Yea I’ll stay with Toyota 😄
@oliverramclam6009 I don't think it will outlast the big 3. The past generation yes but not this one. Reliability rates are already down and keep dropping. It's not more reliable than the Ford or GM trucks anymore. Sad to see cause I'm a Togota fan
Outstanding overview. Really appreciate your personal thoughts & observations regarding the TRD Pro. Thank you!
#1 can't really tow, gets worst gas mileage towing than the V8. The twin turbo V6 3.4 liter engine is probably one of the worst idea Toyota have come up with in recently. Could have gone with a turbo V8 instead.
I absolutely love Toyota styling. I like all the models.
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Thanks for helping me make up my mind
TRD pro it is!
AMD, Did you borrow this TRD Pro from David at Automotive Press? 😉 You focused on the T-O-Y-O-T-A printed on the front grille and dash. On a white pickup like this, I think the classic company 'signature' is the word TOYOTA written in red letters across the tailgate. 🤩 As a truck, my only real concern with the Tundra is the shrunken interior which is a very common theme in every Toyota that has come along in the last 5 years.
I have to say these trucks are much better looking in person for some reason the camera doesn’t do them justice.
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The window flat platform to rest your arm is from an FJ cruiser. I use it daily.
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Having my truck lie to me by playing v8 noise everytime I drive it sounds terrible.
I wish there was a badge somewhere mentioning that it is a TRD. I wonder who is the target audience. If it’s a work truck, what is the point of all the gimmicks? If it’s a luxury segment vehicle, what is the point of all the gimmicks?
toyota show also that is capable to win in motorsport.. he has done in rallies and also in the dakar.. just a winning company
I wanted a Tundra for years; what's not to like about Toyota reliability, and full size truck capabilities? The issue is that I can not bring myself to pay the asking price for trucks for one; nor can I abide this move to turbo V6's as opposed to V8's. They are being marketed as equal power with more fuel efficiency, but the numbers I see don't bear that out. My V6 mini van get approximately the same gas mileage as my 6.2L LS powered car, and with that I get more torque and horsepower. The Tundra has been plagued with issues with the turbo since it was released; that in combination with "supply chain issues" and parts shortages means that you could pay upwards of 60 to 70, or even close 80k for a truck that may or may not be on the road long before a long down time. I get the warranty argument but down time means you're paying monthly payments and interest on a vehicle you can't even drive. I have a great friend that is as big a Toyota fan as I am and is so mad that he bought this truck. He paid about 68k, and put less than 5k miles on it before the turbo issue reared it's head and grounded him for 7 months. They supposedly had to remove the cab to get to the turbos and do the repair, and this was after months of waiting for parts. Part of the issues is this rush to push the green and renewable energy movement forward at a greater cost to the consumer. I am all for renewable energy and reduction of green house gases and pollution, but when the technology is ready and completely viable.
The green activists don't care one bit whether things are ready for prime time or not. They would just as soon you not have your own vehicle anyway and instead take public transportation. We need to resist these earth worshipping extremists
Just go buy a battery truck.
My F150 ecoboost has great power, but fuel economy’s not any better than a V8 in the real world. I’m sure it’s the same here
You need to stop exaggerating on the turbo problems since the wastegate was a small issue and it's already been fixed. You either go EV or Turbo, it's up to you to decide since Toyota is still trying to save combustion engine and all you do is complain.
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Did it bother you when someone says something about Toyota?
What he said it is true and it takes a while to get parts since Toyota has to replace the turbo because of the waste gate issues, the hot fix for it is an update which does not fix it but prevents it from happening while you have warranty, another smart move from Toyota 👍
Great Video. I am a new subscriber as I just found your channel and I'm enjoying your videos.
I have a 2008 Tundra V8 4.7 I bought new and absolutely love it with just about 180,000 on it. I love the way the new Tundras look but without that V8 option I will not buy another as I feel pickup trucks of .5 ton or higher really need that bigger engine.
Also I am not sold on anything Hybrid, it has its goods but also bads. Keep the Hybrid in the F1 cars and off the streets lol.
Anyway thank you for sharing and I look forward to watching more!
Stay safe and well!
This channel now appears to be the New Toyota marketing station.
Everyone is bashing on the turbo reliability, but forget that every heavy duty diesel these days is turbo. All the semi trucks racking up millions of miles are turbo, and a majority of working boats like tugs and tow boats have turbos… I just don’t understand the freaking out so many people are doing
I live up North Minnesota, please make some video for TRD PRO how to warm up in mornings, how to efficiently use this new system because I watched your other video and it’s not 100% typical hybrid. Thanks a lot.
It is a sexy looking truck for sure. Looks awesome. I still think I will hold on to my 2017 tundra with a 5.7 and my 2006 with 4.7L. All electrical crap and sensors and batteries are not gonna be cheap to replace after warranty is out. And working on hybrid system is not something backyard mechanic should mess with. These are still awesome trucks hands down
100% man. One of my previous cars was a 2007 Camry LE hybrid. Needed a battery replacement at 197K miles. That was a $7K job from the cheapest mechanic I found. I was lucky to re-sell it for $2500 and buy a 2008 SE with a dealer-fixed 2.4L engine without the oil burning issue. That 2008 still drives like new at 210K and 14 years later. 0 issues.
I'd love one of those 1st gen Tundra's with the 4.7L. I think they are a perfect size.
Question though, why do you have both a 1st gen and 2nd gen Tundra?
You don’t think your 2016 has sensors and electrical crap? 😂🤣. You know hybrids are utterly reliable right?
@@flight2k5They are reliable but include a heavy and polluting battery that costs more than replacing an entire engine. The regenerative hybrid tech is also more expensive to diagnose and repair than average mechanical components.
@@andrewgus8763 uh no it doesn’t 😂🤣
Thanks for your insights. Beautiful truck
I just traded my 22 TRD PRO for a 23 Platinum Hybrid. Couldn't be happier. My truck is a pavement princess. My platinum is more than capable of tackling the occasional dirt road I go on in MUCH more comfort. Both trucks are about the same price. I'm 43 not 25. Give me creature comforts over fox shocks I'll never use any day! :D
For the money, I am glad I bought the earlier model. Thanks for the TRD PRO rundown!
I have the TRDpro in Lunar gray with Red interior. Soooo love the truck!
I PERSONALLY love "Tacos" better. I jst like the look. Sayn this, I agree w/TRD version, dont like chrome on trucks. If I WANTED a truck, price is way out of MY pocket book. I guess the black door handles is like the Toyota's nite shades. Great analysis! 👍🇺🇸
Burritos are better than tacos. I do enjoy a good taco salad though.
LAND CRUISER question Toyota is unable to repair our 2014 (purchased new) intermittent wipers. They work while stopped in traffic but stop working while moving. Toyota pretty much gave up. Any ideas. Love your videos been a subscriber forever. Love your new shop too looks super nice You deserve success with all your hard work thanks
Got my 2017 TRD pro taco, tundra was too big for trails in my opinion, almost at 30k miles and runs like a dream still!
Please talk about lexus GSF
That red interior must haver been inspired by old pics of Elvis in Vegas.
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Can't wait till 2030 when I can afford one👍
Great review! This exact truck is what I’m saving for! I love the white exterior and the red interior. I NEED it 😂
use this platform and put a metal box on the back and you got a most reliable working Van. I am sure they will sell ton of them.
I got a third-gen SR5 with the TRD Off-Road premium package and some other bits...it's the best of both worlds and no hybrid, moonroof or gaudy Pro red trim. However, I had a second-gen SR5 and there were many things about the interior that seemed better than the new trucks. Regardless, It's a far better ride and the improved torque is noticeable. The over-engineering of the rear suspension is impressive.
Sweet Truck, might need to remortgage the house to pay for one.
Pickups are for the affluent and rich. They are not for working people or middle class people anymore.
I love this trim as well but I wish I could afford it.
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I just can't warm up to this truck. The 1st thing you see getting into one is the cost cutting door handles. No recovery hooks on the Off Road not a good thing. All that black plastic on the exterior is a trun off. How about some steps built into the bumper. For the price I would want more.
I bought a 2023 Tundra SR5 TRD off road package. Dealer and toyota rep told me that the payload on mine is 1819 pounds, however the sticker on the door jamb specify 1395 pounds. Can u please help me understand why the number on the sticker is so low. ?
Thank you for all you do. I have a 2020 TRD Pro 4runner and the fit/finish is perfect! Have you heard any rumors of the Land Cruiser coming back to the U.S.?
Automotive Press has a video on this subject. The only thing is that he thinks it will based on the Prada platform.
Well, its made in Japan instead of mmurrican quality workmanship..
@@caugustedupin7308 Yes, but any and everything is pure speculation at this point. I suspect it could go either way
I'm surprised you (as a mechanic) don't own a Tundra or even a Tacoma!
I love your videos. Keep it up!
Thanks for another Great video about a Great TRUCK, Yes haters I called it a TRUCK. I got my new 22 Tundra TRUCK last month and I am super thrilled with everything about it. I know it will give me 10 years of great service and the next owner many many more.
I wish they would have made the TRD Pro in a 6.5ft bed model! Has any heard why they did that? Is it because it would have not have had as good offroad numbers, which would reflect onto the 5.5ft bed model.
That's one big fugly angry truck. I will keep my '17 tacoma. I despise that grille. It's a non-starter. And a hybrid to boot. I hope Toyota likes these because they will own these for a long time.
Hi Ahmed! I really enjoy watching all your videos and I've learned alot. And if there's one thing I have learned is about the importance of checking and changing my oil. It's #1. I have a 2018 Tacoma and we all know where and how that oil filter service is done. And the Tacoma TRD Skid Plate has a door to access the oil filter. So, I wondered why you didn't show the location of the oil filter on the Tundra when I noticed the Tundra TRD Skid Plate does not appear to have the same door. Also, you didn't show us the Engine Compartment. (Always love to see the engine). And too, you show us the ginormous fuel tank but, what is the capacity? Maybe a "tech quickie" video to supplement?
Keep your truck the new tundra’s are junk
I couldn't imagine off-roading in a nice new truck like that. To me, I'd want an older truck so I wouldn't have to worry about messing it up. I don't like the camo in black trim either.
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Beautiful truck but I don’t like the camo either, inside or out. The fake V8 sound is just stupid. What’s the MSRP on it?
Tundra with a wee6? The Honda Ridgeline has competition.😂
LOL ridgeline is a good unibody truck too
IF in 2024 the PRO improves the overall quality then I may trade up until then my 22’ TRD off-road (painted door handles & no camouflage wheel flares) with top option package @ $58,6K this value package makes the $70K PRO look overpriced IMO.
This man is the real deal. Thank you!!
Great video as always. I’m glad I got to experience Toyota’s rise in the late 70s and their hay days of the 80s because I will never own another new one after buying a 2021 Tacoma.
I’ll keep my 85 and 88 running forever and leave them to my kids.
While some will really like this truck, I see it as a gigantic example of how Toyota lost it’s way.
1. Expensive beyond the reach of 95% of buyers
2. TRD Overbadging
3. Fake exhaust noise- really?
4. Poor quality control
5. Electrical nightmare past warranty period
6. Turbo failure imminent
I fully expect to see repair videos on this truck in the coming years (and Toyota will reap those costs as well)
You forgot to mentioned........a lot of these Toyota's are now built in Mexico/ U.S. and Canada. Only if they were build in Japan like most older ones....the fit to finished would be Superior! Quality control and etc!
Hey AMD, we need Lexus RX content
Great and top notch video. I got one last month. Only concern I have is whether or not the twin turbos will blow in the near future.
Large Toyota lettering reminds me of Tonka. I’d paint the front bumper body color because it makes the grill look too large 😊
I was waiting for this review.
Now I can buy it confidently.
Love the TRD pro my dream truck is a sequoia TRD pro white with the red leather interior and the beefy roof rack
Great video! Love your channel. In your opinion, do you think the air dam has any impact on how the vehicle drives at higher speeds?
At the start i give 👍becouse this car looks amazing. I never seen in my country.
Have the same issue with the dash corner by the vent. I thought it was just mine. I also have that window trim issue. I have the limited trdoffroad. I want the trd pro but really looking forward to the trailhunter model.
Thank you again for your reviews and honesty.
I agree with the arm rest on the doors. Fantastic idea. I wish the analog cluster was more up to date. Especially would like the boost gauge.
Did any of the models you drove have squeaking brakes?
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Thought that camo pattern was greasy fingerprints...
They kind of went overboard with all the "TRD" stuff on the interior.
The TRD Pro 2023 is my favorite truck ever made!!! I have mine pre-ordered. I LOVE everything about this truck! Perfect is the word I’d use to describe it.
Rubber horse mats work well in p/u truck boxes 😊
They can keep the red interior lol. The black door handles won’t get all scratched up like the painted ones on my wife’s 2019 highlander hybrid.
Another Great Video AMD ! I was under the impression that Toyota reserves the Block TOYOTA lettering on the grill of only the toughest and top model that’s available for that production year .. thought I read that somewhere .. is that a new lift you have the Tundra on ?
Am I the only one who is reminded of Batman by your intro music? Lol
Beautiful Truck!
WORD FOR THE DAY IS “ COOL” 😎
i’m glad that you are ripping them a new one. it is unacceptable for Toyota to charge premium prices for the level of fit and finish.
If given the choice to keep a vehicle for the next 15+ years, used for towing an Airstream camper, less than 5k miles total use per year, which would u choose: 2021 Sequoia Platinum 4WD or 2023 Sequoia Capstone 4WD? I love my 2021 and that it’s NA V8, but hate not having the 360 camera, parking sensors, rear cross traffic alert/braking, heated steering wheel, and seats that actually cooled effectively, else my 2021 is flawless for me.
If those add one are that important to you, then might as well get the new gen. Personally, the price difference might not make it worth it, but if you have the cash, then go for it.
damn them new trd pro is nice. It's expensive as heck though and dealer markup is stupid crazy haha