Terrific to see this advanced engineering take shape. The accents seem to disprove the Remain theories that the UK outside the EU is closed to EU citizens working here. I saw an Aussie engineer on another clip. Long may it continue.
They're highly paid engineers doing a skilled job. Not the same at all as fruit pickers or other EU workers who have left the UK in large numbers and we can't replace.
@@owensmith7530 Highly paid or not they are foreign workers and as I pointed out some are EU workers. Sorry to burst your Remainer bubble. The difference now is anyone from anywhere in the world is treated exactly the same as everyone else not as before when any EU citizen could come here skilled or not. And what amazes me about you Remainers is that because you have not known any other system you cannot understand we had seasonal worker here for decades and even now we have seasonal visas available. We were never dependent on the EU for workers the issue was so many came here that wages dived and resident workers found other work. And large numbers have left? You have proof of this? So who are the 6 million EU citizens who claimed Settled Status and live here then?
@@1chish I'm 56, I was employed before the EU single market so I do know what a different system looks like. I also remember the 3 day week (just) and power cuts in the Winter Of Discontent. Britain was rubbish in the 70s, and joining the EEC and turning it into the EU is part of what fixed that. I don't want to go back to how things were before the EU because I know just how dreadful that was.
@@owensmith7530 Oh dear owen. You think I can't count? So you were 8 years old in 1972 when we joined the EEC and therefore you never worked before Freedom of Movement as you allege. And you can dance on the pinhead of EEC / EU all you like but the principle of FoM never changed. So you just proved my point. You then dig an even deeper hole Owen: the '3 day week' (caused by militant trade unions I might add) was in the winter of 1973/74 when you were 9 years old so AFTER we joined the EEC. Ooops! You keep digging an even deeper hole with the 'Winter of Discontent' (again caused by militant trade unions) which was in 1978/79 when you were 14 years old. So some 6 years AFTER we joined the EEC. Ooops again! Sorry to burst your Remainer bubble again Owen but joining the EEC in no way 'fixed that' at all. Maggie Thatcher did. However unlike you, being 75, I DID work for many years before we joined the EEC and I actually voted 'Remain' in 1975 aged 28 because I was happy with what was a trade deal amongst 12 similar nation states with immigration at 30,000 a year. As it happens I gained my papers in 1965 but those same trade unions had already destroyed my industry (engineering) so I went to work in Germany aged 18. No FoM needed then Owen and it took a10 minute stop at the German Consulate for my Eintrittserlaubnis. Thanks to the EU trade deal we now have people can live and work anywhere in the EU now just as I did in 1968 which is why all these skilled engineers from all over the world want to come here. So all your bluster is basically BS Owen. Sorry to be so blunt. There was nothing wrong (workwise) with how things were before the EEC apart from those trade unions. And it took Maggie to sort THAT out with the simple weapon of democracy. She, like me, liked the EEC and even gave it the name of 'The Common Market' but like me she also saw the dangers of the political project called the EU. I have been a Brexiteer since 1993 having read the Maastricht Treaty. Before the word was invented.
@@1chish There was no freedom of movement under the EEC, that came in with the Single Market which we entered under John Major. As for things happening after we joined the EEC, it takes many years for the economic effects of major changes to work through the system. We're still only at the start of feeling the effects of Brexit. As for Maggie Thatcher, yes I agree she fixed a lot of things caused by militant trade unions but she was also a significant backer of the single market. She was very keen on free trade and wanted to see more of it. We've gone backwards on that.
When the local people get civil engineering degrees with experience in erecting bridges via enormous bridge layers they can get the jobs. Note that this type of bridge construction has never taken place in the UK before so there is no experience to draw from locally.
@@timjones2329 Indeed ?; interesting. Whilst all trades are reliant, yes, upon willing applicants for their survival, I don't know how much money is being made available by central government for vocational grants for training in these trades. I shouldn't be staggered to hear it's less than the approximately £5,000,000 a-week, which is the last figure that came to my attention, that it costs to pay hotel chains, like 'The Yorkshire Gateway Hotel', to house illegally arrived immigrants.
Need to go around the country and look at our engineering going back 2000 years, starting with Roman roads, French built Norman and Plantagenet castles, Italianesque Tudor palaces, Irish Canal and Rail infrastructure. Just like every other country we source expertise from wherever available.
@@MeTube3 Yes, countries do. The names hide truths not in the headlines: for example, the Normans were not "French", but a separate principality. France was not a united country, but separately ruled areas, such as principalities, fiefdoms, etc.. Later, the area of to-day's France up to Paris was ruled by English monarchy, so during that period all development in that large land area could unfairly be called British development, in the same unfair way Norman-designed castles are unfairly attributed to the labouring of Norman hands, who, as the then temporary overseers, were not the labourers. The Normans were descended from the Scandinavian Viking, Rollo, for instance. The Bretons, in what became France, are descended in large part from those in South-West England, Wales, and elsewhere, who didn't want to live under Roman rule in Britain. All readers of history shall have what they think is knowledge, I conceed, (which is often the mistakes of authors), and 'know' another figure; but the book I read on the subject gave about ten thousand arrived Roman soldiers, (themselves drawn from many provinces outside Rome, ((Italy not even being a united land till the 19th. Century)), yet today's Italy receives the credit), and about 2 million or-more Britons, who did, under supervision, much of the labour, as the locals then, but not now, were expected, expected, to do much of the labour. . (You may remember a programme made about men from north-east, I think, England saying "Auf Fiedersehen, Pet'', to their wives, when they went to work on building sites in Germany). Broadening the subject, there are other examples, aren't there; such as the 1776 American Revolution, which was no such thing, because a united America didn't exist, and Burgoyne, the Empire Loyalists and some red indian tribes conceeded defeat to Britain's own thirteen colonies, some European soldiery, (seeing the chance to weaken Britain's influence in the new world), and with help themselves from Indian tribes, British soldiers conceeded defeat to thirteen British colonies; whilst the Army was also, unlike the Colonists, fighting wars elsewhere). Each land learns from others, in the way the whole world daily benefits from the industries, (like hot-blasting iron), and many others, which came from Britain. There's a daily chance to invest; and whilst I've been enjoying noticing the voluntary celebrationns of H.M.'s Platinum celebrations, my mind returns to two, volunteer charity workers, inside Bromley, Kent's M & S's foyer, trying to raise £10.00's a-month from people, for the soldiers' Veterens' Lottery, which trys to help the homeless British soldiers, (the ones not in hotels), from committing suicide at the rate of about two a week. I've greatly strayed from the subject, and shouldn't have done. but I thank you if you've stayed this far. Please feel free to give me further thoughts whenever you wish, and thanks again for your time.
@@heathstjohn6775 the Normans, just like everyone else, didn’t necessarily use their own people. The masons doing the skilled work came from the continent. The kind of work seen in the castles after the conquest is not present in earlier building in England but it is present in earlier buildings in France, this indicates that the skills were imported. We use modern day nation names to refer to the geographic areas, most people are well aware that that many of the nations today are formed of United smaller ones and of shifting borders.
The best thing about the progress of this project is imagining the faces of the do nothing be nothing people that tried to stop it.
@@agnosticevolutionist3567 thanks for the heads up, but I don't actually give a shit.
Great job guys keep the updates going .... looking forward to more progress updates 😊👍
0:52 what a man 😁
A man called gay talking about erections. I love it.
Terrific to see this advanced engineering take shape.
The accents seem to disprove the Remain theories that the UK outside the EU is closed to EU citizens working here. I saw an Aussie engineer on another clip. Long may it continue.
They're highly paid engineers doing a skilled job. Not the same at all as fruit pickers or other EU workers who have left the UK in large numbers and we can't replace.
@@owensmith7530 Highly paid or not they are foreign workers and as I pointed out some are EU workers. Sorry to burst your Remainer bubble. The difference now is anyone from anywhere in the world is treated exactly the same as everyone else not as before when any EU citizen could come here skilled or not.
And what amazes me about you Remainers is that because you have not known any other system you cannot understand we had seasonal worker here for decades and even now we have seasonal visas available. We were never dependent on the EU for workers the issue was so many came here that wages dived and resident workers found other work.
And large numbers have left? You have proof of this? So who are the 6 million EU citizens who claimed Settled Status and live here then?
@@1chish I'm 56, I was employed before the EU single market so I do know what a different system looks like. I also remember the 3 day week (just) and power cuts in the Winter Of Discontent. Britain was rubbish in the 70s, and joining the EEC and turning it into the EU is part of what fixed that. I don't want to go back to how things were before the EU because I know just how dreadful that was.
@@owensmith7530 Oh dear owen. You think I can't count?
So you were 8 years old in 1972 when we joined the EEC and therefore you never worked before Freedom of Movement as you allege. And you can dance on the pinhead of EEC / EU all you like but the principle of FoM never changed. So you just proved my point.
You then dig an even deeper hole Owen: the '3 day week' (caused by militant trade unions I might add) was in the winter of 1973/74 when you were 9 years old so AFTER we joined the EEC. Ooops!
You keep digging an even deeper hole with the 'Winter of Discontent' (again caused by militant trade unions) which was in 1978/79 when you were 14 years old. So some 6 years AFTER we joined the EEC. Ooops again!
Sorry to burst your Remainer bubble again Owen but joining the EEC in no way 'fixed that' at all. Maggie Thatcher did.
However unlike you, being 75, I DID work for many years before we joined the EEC and I actually voted 'Remain' in 1975 aged 28 because I was happy with what was a trade deal amongst 12 similar nation states with immigration at 30,000 a year. As it happens I gained my papers in 1965 but those same trade unions had already destroyed my industry (engineering) so I went to work in Germany aged 18. No FoM needed then Owen and it took a10 minute stop at the German Consulate for my Eintrittserlaubnis. Thanks to the EU trade deal we now have people can live and work anywhere in the EU now just as I did in 1968 which is why all these skilled engineers from all over the world want to come here. So all your bluster is basically BS Owen. Sorry to be so blunt.
There was nothing wrong (workwise) with how things were before the EEC apart from those trade unions. And it took Maggie to sort THAT out with the simple weapon of democracy. She, like me, liked the EEC and even gave it the name of 'The Common Market' but like me she also saw the dangers of the political project called the EU. I have been a Brexiteer since 1993 having read the Maastricht Treaty. Before the word was invented.
@@1chish There was no freedom of movement under the EEC, that came in with the Single Market which we entered under John Major. As for things happening after we joined the EEC, it takes many years for the economic effects of major changes to work through the system. We're still only at the start of feeling the effects of Brexit. As for Maggie Thatcher, yes I agree she fixed a lot of things caused by militant trade unions but she was also a significant backer of the single market. She was very keen on free trade and wanted to see more of it. We've gone backwards on that.
Local jobs, for local people.
National jobs, for natives: neither the assertions, nor the accents, convince.
When the local people get civil engineering degrees with experience in erecting bridges via enormous bridge layers they can get the jobs. Note that this type of bridge construction has never taken place in the UK before so there is no experience to draw from locally.
@@timjones2329 Indeed ?; interesting.
Whilst all trades are reliant, yes, upon willing applicants for their survival, I don't know how much money is being made available by central government for vocational grants for training in these trades. I shouldn't be staggered to hear it's less than the approximately £5,000,000 a-week, which is the last figure that came to my attention, that it costs to pay hotel chains, like 'The Yorkshire Gateway Hotel', to house illegally arrived immigrants.
Need to go around the country and look at our engineering going back 2000 years, starting with Roman roads, French built Norman and Plantagenet castles, Italianesque Tudor palaces, Irish Canal and Rail infrastructure. Just like every other country we source expertise from wherever available.
@@MeTube3 Yes, countries do.
The names hide truths not in the headlines: for example, the Normans were not "French", but a separate principality. France was not a united country, but separately ruled areas, such as principalities, fiefdoms, etc.. Later, the area of to-day's France up to Paris was ruled by English monarchy, so during that period all development in that large land area could unfairly be called British development, in the same unfair way Norman-designed castles are unfairly attributed to the labouring of Norman hands, who, as the then temporary overseers, were not the labourers. The Normans were descended from the Scandinavian Viking, Rollo, for instance. The Bretons, in what became France, are descended in large part from those in South-West England, Wales, and elsewhere, who didn't want to live under Roman rule in Britain.
All readers of history shall have what they think is knowledge, I conceed, (which is often the mistakes of authors), and 'know' another figure; but the book I read on the subject gave about ten thousand arrived Roman soldiers, (themselves drawn from many provinces outside Rome, ((Italy not even being a united land till the 19th. Century)), yet today's Italy receives the credit), and about 2 million or-more Britons, who did, under supervision, much of the labour, as the locals then, but not now, were expected, expected, to do much of the labour. .
(You may remember a programme made about men from north-east, I think, England saying "Auf Fiedersehen, Pet'', to their wives, when they went to work on building sites in Germany).
Broadening the subject, there are other examples, aren't there; such as the 1776 American Revolution, which was no such thing, because a united America didn't exist, and Burgoyne, the Empire Loyalists and some red indian tribes conceeded defeat to Britain's own thirteen colonies, some European soldiery, (seeing the chance to weaken Britain's influence in the new world), and with help themselves from Indian tribes, British soldiers conceeded defeat to thirteen British colonies; whilst the Army was also, unlike the Colonists, fighting wars elsewhere).
Each land learns from others, in the way the whole world daily benefits from the industries, (like hot-blasting iron), and many others, which came from Britain.
There's a daily chance to invest; and whilst I've been enjoying noticing the voluntary celebrationns of H.M.'s Platinum celebrations, my mind returns to two, volunteer charity workers, inside Bromley, Kent's M & S's foyer, trying to raise £10.00's a-month from people, for the soldiers' Veterens' Lottery, which trys to help the homeless British soldiers, (the ones not in hotels), from committing suicide at the rate of about two a week.
I've greatly strayed from the subject, and shouldn't have done. but I thank you if you've stayed this far.
Please feel free to give me further thoughts whenever you wish, and thanks again for your time.
@@heathstjohn6775 the Normans, just like everyone else, didn’t necessarily use their own people. The masons doing the skilled work came from the continent. The kind of work seen in the castles after the conquest is not present in earlier building in England but it is present in earlier buildings in France, this indicates that the skills were imported. We use modern day nation names to refer to the geographic areas, most people are well aware that that many of the nations today are formed of United smaller ones and of shifting borders.
Hs 2 complete waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere and as far as local jobbs doesn't sound like it
All bull shit!