HOW GOOD ARE ATTRACTIONS IN cEDH? with ANNA MARGARET - MYRA vs KAYLA vs OB NIXILIS vs YENNETT
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2023
- This week we're joined by Anna Margaret for some cEDH
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The trigger to open the attraction goes on top of spells and resolves before the spell does.
Myra can "imprint" spells in your upkeep before you roll, giving you a higher chance to hit spells/more spells.
You'd be surprised how many commanders from Unfinity have legs in a cedh pod. Great showing, Anna
Agreed! I have an Ambassador Blorpityblorpboop cedh deck built that… does things sometimes?
I imagine more of them have legs than not, unless there's a snake or slug or something.
magar of the magic strings is also good
For anyone who is wondering, tax effects are applied before 3-ball. If someone is attempting to cast a 1 mana spell, say Sol Ring, into s Sphere or Resistance and a 3-ball, it would cost 3 total, not 4, as the 1 mana +1 tax mana is still less than 3, so it becomes 3.
TL;DR, Trinisphere's tax is applied last
Cost increases, Cost Decreases, Trinisphere check, then Pay. Affinity can’t bypass Trinisphere, but Improvise can.
12:30 and 15:00 I'm pretty sure Anna had to pay 1 for the spells exiled with Myra here because of Sphere of Resistance? In the first instance that didn't matter as she had enough mana to pay for it, but later she would've had to pay 2 mana for Opt and Delayed Blast Fireball so she wouldn't have enough mana anymore to pay for Part the Waterveil. Also I just noticed she couldn't have cast both Opt and Delayed Blast Fireball there anyways because Rule of Law was still on the battlefield.
Myra is absolutely my favorite deck, to the point where two of my friends pinged me with this video today to make sure I saw it. A trick you can do with Myra is hold priority on your draw step and imprint a spell on an attraction, so you have a chance to roll it that turn. At 14:10, Anna could have had a chance to Time Warp again that turn (though she didn't roll the right number). Loved seeing Delayed Blast Fireball get there! I've had that in my deck for ages but have never had it go off like that.
Yes exactly the comment I was about to post. I also have a Myra deck that goes between high power edh and cedh between its iterations and it frustrated me to see Myra not being used as she could !
She probably didn't want to tap out just for a chance at an extra turn.
Anna is so sweet! I’ve played Jinnie Fay against her Jinnie Fay while she was cosplaying as Jinnie Fay at command fest Bellevue last year! This was such a fun match to watch!
Deck Myra is excellent! Attractions are amazing!
I'm curious to know what Nate tutored because if he had the emergence zone in hand then he could've searched up All Will Be One and won off of the triggers on Anna's turn. I have a more casual Ob Nixilis deck and I want to get All Will Be One at all times to end the game.
Sooth comes from Proto-Germanic *santhaz which is reflected in Old English as sōth, meaning “truth; true, actual, real”. So ‘soothsaying’ means truthsaying which is what a soothsayer does, they speak the truth about the future (supposedly😅). The same construction exists in Dutch: ‘waarzegger’ which means fortuneteller. Literally “waar” (true) + “zegger” (sayer).
For future reference, you roll for attactions during your precombat main phase. This means Myra the Magnificent can imprint spells during your draw step after you draw but before you roll for attractions instead of after (At 12:48 Anna imprints Opt after attraction rolls, which is wrong because she could miss the drop tower and roll to visit balloon stand)
Draw step not upkeep because you might draw an instant you want to imprint.
It also affects the one attraction's ability to scry.
I. Love. Anna's. Deck. How creative!!!!! Thats great!
See, now someone should've played the current iteration of Krark/Sakashima because of course it now runs attractions as well!
No way, you've got a list?
@@FluxRevived the database has the list for it
That was a fun game, loved all the commanders and the crazy plays
Fantastic game!! Very cool to see new and different decks 😊
It’s really funny to me that attractions are legal because it seems like the joke was that they were overly confusing and overly designed. And then they went “eh, I guess play them in commander and legacy” LOL
Yeah it was greed making that decision, plain and simple.
Yooo I love Yennet, she's one of my favorite commanders, cool to see her in a cedh pod!
Those attractions were fucking crazy, really well played by Anna- like you said, super patient
Great video as always guys, thank you!
Anna's play was super clean and clear. From a decade old mtg grinder, I picked up a lot just from watching this player's actions. well done.
Soothe means to calm someone/thingor to quell irritation/agitation and the 'th'is pronounced the same way that you would promounce it in the words 'the, they, or them'.
Soothesaying was a practice where people would basically tell someone's fortune through some form of scam.
Glad to see an un-card like Myra in cEDH. Shared the video with a friend who has a Myra deck :)
That ob deck looks like a lot of fun to play
That was a great game. Just blasting you guys over and over with fireball what a way to win!
Oh look, I've stumbled into another video! And me without my captain's log.
WOOT! GO ANNA!!!
This Myra deck is so fun
I have a lot of fun with it!
@@itsAnnaMargaret could you share what attractions you used pretty please I been always wanting to build her. :)
pleaseeee, have the sleeves that matches Dylens playmat!! Pretty pleasee 💖
ps.: love your adhd podhead energy as alwaays oh my god
Sad that Yennett didn’t get to shine but I swear she’s a cool cedh commander!
SUCH a good game!
Really impressed by Kayla. That was a lot of cards drawn and played.
Can your next podcast talk about the different deck archetypes in cedh like blue farm, turbo naus, control and such and talk about how they Play differently from each other and what core cards are in the different deck types
wouldn't delayed blast fireball not work like that as you're casting a copy of it not the original which is what's exiled?
Good question, but no.
707.12. An effect that instructs a player to cast a copy of an object (and not just copy a spell) follows the rules for casting spells, except that **the copy is created in the same zone the object is in** and then cast while another spell or ability is resolving. Casting a copy of an object follows steps 601.2a-h of rule 601, “Casting Spells,” and then the copy becomes cast. Once cast, the copy is a spell on the stack, and just like any other spell it can resolve or be countered.
I assume 11:15 is Nate saccing City of traitors after fetching?
Be aware it only triggers on "playing" a land tho
Gooooooooood stuff
Uhh.. i have no clue what going on with Anna's side, but it looked fun
Great game and 100 best outtro for the 50$ yet. haha
Attractions FTW!!
More cEDH decks should run attractions. The Most Dangerous Gamer is a pretty reasonable midrange threat, Deadbeat Attendant is a nice 2-drop “cantrip” creature (it opens an attraction instead of drawing a card). The attractions deck as a whole is a nice little value engine, or with Myra it’s a combo piece.
@cam/dylan, ishai/jeska, kykar, or niv mizzet as my first cedh deck? Also, was a pleasure meeting yall at scg yesterday!
A soothsayer is someone who can see the future, so soothsaying would be looking into the future I guess?
First time seeing a queen kayla deck! Ive built a couple version of her and i think dermotaxi should be in the list! If you have VBR, dermotaxi and kiki jiki in hand you win the game off of 1 activation!
Hello there. I'm the one who submitted the Queen Kayla deck for the episode today. Took a look at Dermotaxi and it is something I'll be looking at as I further test and tune the deck going forward.
I'm pretty sure you can imprint with Myra during your upkeep after you untap before your first main phase when you roll to visit attractions, missed some opportunities there.
We Need More Selvala Heart of the Wild play, Mono Green too good.
at 3:40 Cam forgot to float mana off Urza's Saga D:
I was happy to see my girl, Queen Kayla, then sad to see her go.
I’m early! Let’s goooo
4:29 There is an argument to be made that Anna should have saved her fetch if she still needed to keep drawing lands.
Gotta get Obby for my Prosper deck
This was a great game!!! Do
We have the attraction deck list??? It’s missing from moxfield??
It looks like it’s there to me are you sure
@@PlaytoWinMTG I'm also not seeing the attraction deck but i could be dumb and blind
@@PlaytoWinMTG I am seeing it.
@@PlaytoWinMTG I see the deck but its missing the attraction cards.
Ib nixilis's card advantage is also quite impressive
Did the credits become that one coffee scene from Earthbound??
The problem i see with attractions is they have the "unearth" problem. They're basically tokens where once they leave the battlefield they're effectively exiled for the rest of the game. So if your deck is reliant on certain attractions or retaining attractions in play it will fail naturally as the attractions are removed from play AND they count as Artifacts. Once you've gone through your "attractions" deck that's it, you have no access to anymore attractions for the rest of the game.
That’s a good point. The trick is to not worry about what the attractions do, and focus on them as basically isochron septers here. Mass artifact removal isn’t a huge worry in cEDH, though you can wind up feeding some serious docksides.
I have a friend with an Attraction deck. It runs that giant 5 color scarecrow as the commander and let me tell you- it can be nastyyyyy. You end up making a bunch of scarecrows and destroy a lot of permanents. It's kinda gross!
WOOH ATTRACTIONS
This just felt like a handed win. Everyone was playing kingmaker
HOW
Definitely would love to see Nate’s camera actually be straight and show his whole board state.
It’s amazing how in the fastest form of the format patients can be a great skill
8:08
Did Nate pay one mana for the Lotus Petal? Sphere of Resistence is still in play.
nate playmat looks insane where can i find one of those?
It’s not a regular sized playmat though it’s a desk mat
Clack keys sells it
At 8:25 ish when Anna bounces the trinisphere I'd have bounced the dockside and sacced a land to copy, being down to 2 lands sucks but its still a 9 or so mana swing again.
I have no idea why she bounced it there if all she did was cast her commander
@@thelordethan3682she had a cheap sorcery in her hand she wanted to play, but after a good draw after the bounce she figured just casting her commander was better to get the attractions going. Misplay in hindsight but in the moment it could have panned out (Source; I’m her husband) didn’t hurt her in the end!
Go Unfinity!
Myra doesn’t cast the spell from exile.
7:47 did nate trigger ob off is own self damage? Ob says opponents
Eeeemmmmeeeeerrrggggeeennnnccceee zzzzzoonnnnneeee!!!!!!
"sooth" means "truth" in an earlier version of Enlgish. soothsayers were telling you the truth except it was all fake
7:03 Shouldn't have Queen Kayla there been 7 to cast because of Sphere of Resistance?
She’s 3 mana normally, costs 2 more for tax and one for sphere, so 6
@@fluffylord2742 oh I've mistaken her cost with her ability's cost
Thanks
What attractions did Myra use?
I’ll update my list with the specific attractions!
bees make honey
Izzet mages stay winning
Yennet doesn't look very Yisan good sir 🤔
So many missed mana crypt triggers.
Delayed fireball wasn't being casted from exile. And Nate had Twinflame Engineer, return Wishclaw, get All Will Be One(edit: Couldn't trigger it. So Final Fortune Ob combat damage, or Peer)
Fun game anyways
Copied cards are cast from the zone they are copied from. DBF was exiled and then the card was copied and cast from exile
@@CacZarn Thanks for the correction! Prosper player here. It wouldn't trigger prosper because it's not a card casted from exile, but it still is casted from exile
First!
You could say that was an… “attractive” game (I’m not sorry)
4:18 the Soothsaying should've cost 4 mana here, because of Sphere of Resistance
That is not correct. trinisphere gets applied last. as long as 3 mana was paid, trinisphere says it is okay
There's no such word as sooth. It is soothe. And the th there is a vocal fricative, as in "those".
I am staunchly opposed to unfinity cards being used in commander. If someone brings an unfinity commander to my pod I will be opting out
But it’s big scary CEDH, it can handle some silly attractions no ?
I’m not talking about any formats capacity to “handle” the cards. They should never have been legal in legacy formats. It was all a push to get commander players to buy more unfinity to boost sales instead of the spirit in the Un sets. So I have no interest in playing against cards that should not exist in the format
@@memebot69k31 I mean, isn’t that kind of arbitrary ? Where do we draw the line at what “should” be in commander ? I agree that stickers at least are weird af, but we already have universes beyond stuff legal in eternal formats, why not Unfinity cards ?
I love the show but i hate this had as many legs as it did, never should silver bullshit play this well
she needs to play animar. animargaret!