New KTM motorcycle is driving me crazy
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- New KTM motorcycle is driving me crazy
In this video, I'll reveal the dark side of my new KTM motorcycle and discuss the problems I've encountered. If you're considering buying a KTM, you'll want to watch this, I really am annoyed and its come at the wrong time.
filmed using @DJI action 4
music provided by upbeat
0:00 Intro
0:28 the problems
3:45 going for a ride
7:15 b roll
7:30 tractors everywhere
9:03 tractor blockage
13:10 outro - Zábava
I bought a 1290 Superdake back in Sepember 23. As i pulled away from the dealer my engine management light came on. I took it back and they cleared it down. I left again and it happened again. They took it back and said it was an exhaust sensor. It took a month for them to do the work and I got 10 miles down the road and it happened again, so I asked them to swap it for a brand new one. After a lot of back and forth they did it and this one has been great. I would say not to except any excuses and ask for a new bike.
This is only half the story so have decided to cut my losses and get rid now. It’s amazing how many of stories similar to yours are now manifesting which shows there are many problematic ones out there 👍🏻👍🏻
I asked for a new bike after one year in service (4-5 service intervention), but they didn't gave a f... they didn't even extended warranty....And now they are not even responding to my calls, emails. "Awesome" KTM support to the rescue.
This is the bike I really thought was the ideal bike for me. Unfortunately, I hear too many stories like yours. It's unacceptable on a newish bike and undermines your confidence when planning a big trip.
There's a reason I'm still riding my 8 year old 35K MT10. So far, zero issues, just routine servicing.
Tractor jam!!!😂
Hope you get it sorted. Cheers
Exactly Richard all confidence is lost and the KTM customer service is garbage they don’t care. I’m done with it I need to sort something before Spain in a few weeks, thanks for comment much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
I had a 1090 Adventure for 3 years, awesome bike, loved it. And then, after a dealer service, rode home then it wouldn't start next time out. Dealer picked it up and after about 7 weeks, finally decided it was a fuel pump issue, ffs. Managed to fix it with a service kit but I still ended up with an almost £500 bill. Totally lost confidence in the brand and dealer competence, so sold it. Dealer since closed down, wonder why. Came to realise I don't need 125hp so now enjoying an Interceptor 650 and a CB500X.
Yep just reaffirms by situation. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
The joys of KTM ownership .... great when they work well, but all too often something goes wrong. I bought a brand new 790 Duke in 2019 ... after the 14 mile ride home from the dealership it was leaking oil from the countershaft seal and that was just the start.
Took 3 warranty claims to get that sorted, then it developed a leak from the valve cover which took a further 3 warranty claims to get properly fixed, the front brake master cylinder developed stress cracks and had to be changed out under warranty and the rear shocks damping circuit failed so the whole shock got replaced for new under warranty .... that was 8 claims within the first 18 months. Sure it all got sorted without any financial cost to me apart from fuel, time spent repeatedly visiting the dealership and the hassle in general. Buying a KTM is a big gamble ... you might get a golden example with no issues but chances are you'll get some of, if not all of, the common ones. And then there's the failing camshaft issue which is a whole other ball game. Needless to say I no longer have the Duke - defected back to japanese bikes which prove to be a lot more reliable in general. I had more issues with the 790 than all of the 6 Japanese bikes I've owned combined!!
Wow that sounds like a nightmare. There are a lot of horrors stories on here and I deffo did the right thing in letting her go now. I just can’t be doing with inconvenience and cost when you should be enjoying it. Thanks for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Great vid Jay. It’s because of vids like yours that I’m terrified of buying a KTM. I’ve always been wary of their rep. Hope you get it sorted mate and enjoy Spain.
Thanks Dave appreciate your comments mate I’ve already sorted the next steed albeit not new. A 2020 gsa rally te. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE beautiful!
Sorry to hear Katie’s issues pal . The more riders expect from bikes the more nonsense the manufacturers feel obliged to build into the next model. Too many Damn sensors that’s the issue. It only takes one to start shitting itself and the rest want in on the act too. Old bikes have mechanical wear and tear. New ones suffer from more serious issues as you can’t see what’s wrong with them. Sadly simplicity is best. Let’s hope it sorts itself out and stays sorted. She’s a cracking bike. You’ll get there 👍
Thanks bud much appreciated but has been going on a while now and KTM are not handling as expected they clear the error then say nothing wrong. I’m done now with it to be honest just keep thinking what happens when out of warranty and I’m in Spain in a little over 2 weeks so need to make a decision. Thanks for comment pal always appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I know what you mean pal. I’ve long been tempted for a GS, Multistrada , KTM and my lottery bike the Norden 901 Expedition. Money is not stopping me. Sadly It’s the unknown. I’ve always had Japanese or the Enfields which I can mend with a hammer. I’m tempted for a change after the ABR but I might wait till next season. Vstrom 800 and Transalp are on my “ New bike “ shortlist. However I’ve a few second hand models I want a good look at. I’m sure the KTM will behave on holiday. Maybe it just hates our crap roads. Stay safe bud.
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE You would think that they would be more helpful with a bike still under warranty?
What is the procedure? Plug it in and reset? Could you do that on the road with your own diagnostic plug in laptop or phone app.
Cheers pal 👍🏻👍🏻
Really sorry to hear about your troubles. I'm sure you've been all over the internet and forums.
I recently got a comment from a chap suffering from electrical gremlins, a new Lithium Ion battery sorted it for him. More bloody expense though.
Might be worth checking the battery terminals, and also the cable for your heated gear, which i suspect is hard wired to the battery.
Did the problem start before you fitted the new spots, just wondering if they could be linked to the issue.
Whatever happens, i can give you a push back up north from Spain 😊
Mate this is just half the story I had nothing hard wired to the battery when it all started. I have had many issues so it’s going unfortunately so hopefully won’t need the push back from Spain 😂😂
@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE Gs, Tiger, Multistrada, so many to choose from. Do you think you'll be able to swap it before Picos?
@@motocrad yes will get it sorted before picos prob be gs but not new a couple of years old. Watch this space 👍🏻👍🏻
Three of us have just recently returned from a trip to the Pyrenees, all on 1290 super adventure s. My bike had been to the dealership a week before the trip. For warranty work. lambda sensor replacement. The morning of the trip, I probably didn't even get 10 miles away from my home before the engine management came back on again. The engine management light would frequently come on and off throughout our trip. Likewise with the other two bikes. In fact, one of the bikes had a full meltdown. all electronic aids and features, radar cruise control etc stopped working. After a lunch stop, we returned to the bikes, and everything had reset back to normal. I have owned this bike from new for just over two years, and it's always been the same, blasted engine management light. Most of the time there's nothing wrong with it. And all the dealers do is reset the error codes. But apart from the engine management light, (Probably just got used to seeing it) I really enjoy the bike. Maybe I'll just cover it up with some black electrical tape.😂🤣
Wow that’s interesting I couldn’t be doing with that. I wonder why they do it. I’ve got rid of it now I just lost all confidence. At least you got back from your trip ok that’s the main thing. They are fantastic bikes to ride I don’t think anything comes close to them. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE just watched your latest video, great choice. have a fantastic trip buddy👍
@@craigpotter6946 thanks buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Sorry to hear about your continuing problems mate that sucks. I would definitely not be as understanding as you are. If it's under the 6 month mark I think I'd be looking into the case for rejecting the vehicle as it is a recurring fault they cannot cure and it is a safety issue if you think your tc etc. is not working.
Thanks mate it is about 8 months if I work it out. Problem is the dealer doesn’t deal with KTM anymore as they are closing down in August and have told me I would have to directly go to KTM. I’ve cut my losses and traded in against another bike. It’s a bit older but a top spec more expensive brand. I am going to Spain in a couple of weeks so needed to sort before then. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I think you made the right decision pal.
Tractor Run! We have them down here in Somerset, brilliant! On your management light issue, it is a major reason why I have real concerns regarding new bikes. There are so many interlinked systems, and you, the owner, can't do anything about 'faults', unless you're a computer nerd, as the dealers are the only ones with the systems / software to access and clear the errors. I have just had this with my five year old car (doesn't matter what model or manufacturer). It has taken three months.... THREE MONTHS to finally track down and cure the problem, a couple of £30 sensors! I hope you get it all sorted soon.
Yes exactly right mate but I think the mix of horror stories with KTM and the fact this is only half the story I have decided to cut my losses on this one and get rid of the bike. I have a tour in 2 weeks so need to sort something before that. The tractors were brilliant and unexpected to see 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE It seems crazy that you feel you have to change the bike, but I think we would all feel the same as no matter what the dealer does, you are never going to 100% trust the bike. I hope you get it all sorted in time for your trip.
Mate, I have had issues with the SMCR 690 with “electronic errors”. It took a long time for me to work it out but it turned out to be an aftermarket device that I had fitted that was causing issues on the CANBUS system. If you can, disconnect things like that that you might have fitted and see if your problem stops. You must disconnect, don’t just power down. Good luck.
Yes mate I did that still no change so have now decided to cut my losses and move on 👍🏻👍🏻
Sorry to hear of your problems, you were so chuffed when you got the bike.
I looked at a CF Moto this winter, when I found out it was a KTM based bike, I swerved it.
I know you love the bike and I can see why, but is it worth just taking it back as not fit for purpose as it’s dangerous if it’s disabling the electronic safety features.
It’s well within your time limits to return.
Hope all goes well
Mate unfortunately the dealer who sold it are closing down in August and are no longer a ktm dealer so won’t take it back I have to address directly with KTM. I am getting rid this week have part chopped for another bike soon to be revealed. Not a ktm 😂 cheers Colin 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE To quote a band called the Vapor’s in the 1970s
Turning Japanese ?
Best luck with the new bike.
I am currently driving a cfmoto.
Eh...I can't yet recommend.
2500 miles ...daily ridden.
Having lots of fun...
And some really fucking strange issues with my clutch/transmission.
Place I bought it is the only place within reason to get maintenance done and I think they are gaslighting me.
I hope it gets fixed soon Jay, I had the same with the triumph when I first got it. All sorted now and I am loving it.
I would pop it back to Ktm for a good going over, may be something simple that is throwing a spurious code.
Mate Im done with it the voices in my head are telling me the rumours of unreliability are true. I had elec issues with Ducati and swore never again. Ktm can’t find anything as they clear when bike is turned off. Problem is the traction turns off on the bike and is then a safety issue. So am done mate with it 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE if you have lost confidence then I can understand why you would be feeling this way.
So, what bike next, BMW?, Triumph?, Kawasaki? Choices, Choices, Choices.
Haha I need a bike that’s good for what I need not what I want. So a good reliable work horse good fuel range, comfy shaft driven and a mile muncher that can hold luggage. Got to be another GS 👍🏻👍🏻
I owned a 1290 gt and had the exact same problem. I could just about live with it but the final straw was starter completely stopped working. I couldn’t get the thing to start at all. Had the Ktm engineers round with there computers to see what the problem was and they couldn’t sort it either. Also because the steering lock was on and its keyless I couldn’t move it either.kTM were not prepared to come and get it and take it back to the workshop. In the end I hired a private firm to pick the bike up and take it to Ktm. They did fix it under warranty but my trust in the brand was destroyed and I sold the bike
Mate yes I get your point my trust has gone in the brand so the bike is going 👍🏻👍🏻
Really sorry to hear about the ktm ,I had 1 every time I took it out I would leave my van keys with my son so he could pick me up , wait until the dash goes black and the bike cuts out it's totally dangerous lost all confidence in it ,I chopped it in for new Tuono I couldn't trust the ktm to ride it to bike shop they picked it up,1 day it broke down 5 times after picking it from ktm Birmingham after they supposedly fixed it
I've had aprilias for 10 years and never let me down
Hope you get it sorted
That’s bad.
I have said goodbye to it now mate no trust or confidence 👍🏻👍🏻
Oh dear, you had issues with the Multistrada. I’ve just sold my Multistrada for same reasons anything goes wrong it’s a dealership job ££££
So I’m going for a Yamaha Tenere T7 with little as possible electronics 👍
Yep it seems to be following me around at the minute. I’ve done mate and looking for something different 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent choice, great little bike👌🏼
Cheers pal 👍🏻👍🏻
I was all set to replace my 2021 Pan America that has been plagued by electrical gremlins (it finally crossed the point of no return this spring) with a leftover 2023 KTM Super Adventure S, that was until the demo bike the dealer gave me to test ride had a warning come up about the rear brake overheating. It went away after 10mins but I had a look at it when I got back to the dealer and the disc had pronounced heat discolouring on it, the bike only had 1400km on it. The last thing I want is a bike that is only marginally more reliable than my Pan Am. I went with the new 2024 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport ES instead.
Exactly so many issues and comments here regarding issues good call with the AT. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Shame having the issues and that you’ve now changed the bike, as you said any bike can have its quirks or be an odd dodgy one. I’ve honestly not had any issues with my KTM 2022 1290 SAR it’s been a hoot and nearly 25k miles on it. But at the end of the day got to have the confidence with the bike 👍, never say never maybe see you back on one in the future when you realise you miss the vtwin roar 😂. Meantime enjoy the GS 👍
Cheers buddy I think be good to have a second bike and I see the smaller one are gaining popularity. I did like the SAS it was awesome to ride but when issues manifest I lose all faith. I’m glad you have had no issues maybe I should of gone for the R 👍🏻👍🏻
Firstly,I’m loving the Chanel,I live between the dales and the wolds of Lincolnshire ,so I turn right or left for some great roads👍🏼👍🏼I’ve just bought a 2023 1290 sas hence the interest
My bike story is 2020 BMW s1000rr,1st service new cylinder head,2service cam chain tensioner and finally there was a recall for a missing pin on the footrest ,the ktm has been faultless so far,as was my 2016 ktm 1290 superduke r,owned for 4 years👍🏼but now I’m starting to get very pissed off with my car 2021 amg a35 ,engine management lights on numerous occasions and the speedo side of the dash has completely disappeared on several occasions and the warranty runs out in a month 😲
So I can totally relate to your disappointment with the ktm,I’m going to dump my a35,it’s a great car but once the trust is gone it’s love affair over,maybe you have just been unlucky,the 1290 sas is great but you need to have the trust and confidence in whatever you ride if you are planning on doing any distance.
Mate thankyou glad you’re enjoying the channel.
Yes lost all confidence with the ktm as was brand new and it’s been like this pretty much from the first month. Back and fourth to the dealers who incidentally are closing and don’t do ktms anymore. They rest several times but said no fault each time this is the frustration. I’ve got rid now 👍🏻👍🏻
So where are you going now.
I’ll answer my own question,obviously 1300 gs,good choice,my uncle swears in the boxer,has the 1250rt and is trying to convert me 😀😀
I’ve bought a GSA mate rally te 1250. It’s 3 years old
I can understand your concern with a long ride ahead. Come on KT M get it sorted
I’m getting rid buddy this is only the half of it 👍🏻👍🏻
Funnily enough I also got a new bike last September, a 1050 V Strom and I think it's no surprise that it has been riding like clockwork. I did take a 1290 ADV for a spin and it's just too much power for legal public roads.
Yes I wish I had weighed up my options and shopped around at the time but you live and learn I suppose. 👍🏻👍🏻
V Strom 1050 is a supremely reliable bike. Not as exciting as the KTM but plenty fast enough and capable of 200,000 miles plus without issues. That one was still on its original clutch! Swapped mine for a "cooler" Africa Twin; now swapping back as the Honda is too expensive to service and just not as confidence-inspiring with its complex electronics.
@@carleddison7479 my experience while testing the 1290 for about 100 kms or so was ... so and so. It's less stable in turns then the strom and surprisingly the front breaks have very little initial bite and not much feedback. I guess those are things one can get use too but the strom is just better at those two. Both bikes I tested were new btw. Yeah the 1290 accelerates like a bat out of hell but under 150 kph, the difference is not that big between them. And again, legal speeds are a thing :) The 2023 strom 1050 I think it has all it needs (on top of everything it inhereted from the previous gen), quick shifter up/down with blipper, cruise control from 2nd gear and 2000 RPM up, nice looking and readable LCD display. It lacks fancy electronic suspension true, but that doesn't bother me. The KTM has a very usefull adjustable while riding windshield and it's weight is distributed lower because of the shape of the fuel tank. Where I am the 1290 is 50% more expensive and if there's a chance of gremlins ... yeah, is it really worth it ?
Had the same issue on my 3 year old 1290 Superduke GT due to a deteriorating (not flat) battery. These bikes are insanely sensitive to voltage change. For the engine management light (ECU Failure) the ECU needs to go through between 3 & 5 successful diagnostic cycles (on/engine running/off) before it clears. You've still managed more than I did on my new 1290 SAS though. That didn't last a week! Yet I'm back on another one now...the draw of the Orange is strong 😀 I have a video (one of my first attempts so pretty poor quality) on my channel about my experience if it helps you feel slightly less s**t about it (probably not). Hope you have a trouble free trip. 👍
Thanks buddy will take a look at vid I have though decided to give up and move on to a new riding steed 👍🏻👍🏻
agreed,had a load of errors on my superduke gt when trying to start,thought i had enough in the battery as it was turning over fast enough but was told about the battery,got a high cold cracking battery and never looked back since and that was three years ago,good luck with it
I hope it gets sorted mate, it would piss me off too. bikes are so so expensive nowadays any new bike you would expect no problems at all. Look at the new BMW1300 that has had a few recalls since it’s released. I would be thinking the same what’s it going too be like when it’s a few years old 👍👍
Exactly mate no confidence it’s all gone now this is just half the story. Unfortunately she is going at the end of the week. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I hope you get a good deal on something else. It’s a shame because they are lovely bikes but if you’re using a bike for long tours you need something reliable mate. There won’t be nothing worse than breaking down and ending a trip with your mates. Can not wait to see what you go for 👍👍
Feel your pain Jay, I did 350 miles yesterday on mine and had the normal faults (preload,etc etc) but then had an MCU or MGU which has put the engine management light on. Only started twice since do still on even tho all other faults have cleared. They’re so f**king annoying aren’t they?
Ps mate with us on same bike, not one fault.
Mate yes very annoying and playing on the mind all the time. This is only half the story pal the bike has now gone 👍🏻👍🏻
I've got a Duke 125, 21 plate. It had 3000 miles on the clock when I bought it and it has a low oil pressure light come on at 4500 revs when the engine temp is 4 bar. I've changed the pressure sensor and given it an oil change, filters etc and it still keeps doing it, after months of research I still can't work it out. I've done 2000 miles since I got it so it's probably electrical or it would have gone bang by now. I forked out a lot of money to not have any problems and it has been nothing but. I'm obviously a new rider and I can't concentrate properly cause I'm always waiting for the light to come on. I'll probably never buy KTM again.
Mate I share your pain it’s a horrible feeling when you are constantly checking for lights or issues it shouldn’t be like that. I won’t be buying a ktm again. I’ve lost money and bought a second hand GS now as I’m in Spain next week. If I still had the ktm I would have probably not gone. Hope you get it sorted buddy thanks for comment 👍🏻👍🏻
Had an 2018 SA1290R until 2021 - no issues at all. Got a 2021 SA1290S new. Lots of electrical issues- stuff would be disabled on start up (with loads of error messages like you are getting) sometimes with engine management light sometimes without - and also during rides. Very annoying and frustrating - eventually the dealer cleared out and reloaded/upgraded all the management software and that seemed to fix it (but that was after a year). After two years traded it in for something else with less tech and a four year warranty (I know the KTMs come with that now). Also got something with less power as I felt it was rather bored with the type of riding I do - TBH despite all the issues I do rather miss it! I won’t talk about the depreciation.
Mate that’s where I am now no interest and getting rid. This is only half the issue and I have completely lost confidence now. Cheers for sharing buddy much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
i laughed out loud when you compared the tractors to a line of GSs 😂
Haha it wasn’t intended as a derogatory comment I know sometimes people call them tractors 🚜 🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻
Had my sas from new in 2021, ive had no issues at all with mine, its a shame you have a problem, as its a great bike
Mate they are great bikes agreed but to many issues unfortunately has put me off now 👍🏻👍🏻
If preload light comes on after starting up its usually the battery if the bike has been left a few days... I leave mine on trickle charge and dont have the pre load issue... battery slightly low and pre load comes on... if on the center stand and running, some have put it in gear to oil chain, this will set off the engine light, after 3 rides it will clear.. not saying these are your issues but what I have seen.. had my 1290 since 2021 no issues apart from pre load when battery just a little lower than optimal, had 1190 for 6 years no issues...
Thanks buddy this is some of the problems but I had other issues and dealer issues so have now sold the bike 👍🏻👍🏻
Nothing worse than electrical gremlins, It’s just that uncertainty every time you ride. Ironically I had a 21 plate GS1250 from new and had to go back to the dealers after 10 miles. I had numerous faults on the dash that were eventually sorted through the first service, unfortunately I had already lost faith in the bike. I have since had a V4S Multi (no issues) and I’m now on a 23 KTM SAS (no issues). Good luck getting a deal on a replacement.
I think the fact I had two Ducati multis with elec issues that forced me into buying new. To find a new bike with issues and making matters worse the after service has made it more frustrating. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Great video mate, shameful service from KTM though, new bike it needs sorting before the warranty expires. Keep on at them however annoying it gets mate.
Cool tractor negotiating skills 😁 as you don't see that every day.
Thanks Lee I’m done with it I’m not going through the issues again I had with the Ducati and the KTM cus services are garbage too not hearing me or even bothered so warranty doesn’t mean anything to me. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE fair comment mate, keep your positivity and in sure you get it sorted one way or another 🫡
Check your battery voltage, If it showing 11.8v on the screen with the engine not running it might be a poor battery, I have know this happen on a new KTM, a battery change cured it. I’ve got a 23 KTM SAS, seems ok at the moment.
Bikes gone now buddy but thankyou. I did check at the time as that was the obvious place 👍🏻👍🏻
I’ve almost bought an SAS twice as great bike and love the looks but the reliability or lack of has put me off every time. What did you get as a replacement?
Mate they all are not bad surely 🥱 but ended up getting the 1250 gsa rally te mate in the hp colours 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE probably not but really didnt want to risk it so ended up with the 1250 GS TE triple black.
There is nothing worse than a new machine pissing you off. there is too much complicated tech on all motor vehicles these days, them warning lights always plant a doubtful seed in one's head, even if they go off, but EML frustrating, because might be innocent or a warning to something coming, hope you get it sorted. Looked a great ride out tho 🏍👌👍
Thanks Andrew I have plans to get rid I’ve lost all confidence in KTM. Yeah ride was a good one considering. Thanks for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
I had a multistrada that had all sorts of strange issues (electrical issues). Turned out to be a bad head unit,,, but it took years to figure out. Replaced the head unit... never saw another problem.
I to have had two multistradas with ironically electrical issues 😫😫👍🏻👍🏻
SMC are closing down soon, where will you go to get it fixed / serviced?
Mate I’m getting rid so not an issue now. I think the closest to me now is Craig’s motorcycles for ktm in Leeds somewhere or Dewsbury. Also a place in Nottingham I believe 👍🏻👍🏻
Have 2020 Superduke GT & MTC failure & engine warning including limp mode plagued me. Most of the time it's down to the battery and also in the GTs case it can be the exhaust valve sticking
I would deffo have a new battery as backup and try that
Yes 5 power one & off cycles will reset but won't solve a poor battery issue. Even if the battery is showing healthy it probably isn't
Thanks for that buddy this is only half the story so will be getting rid at the end of this week. Deffo take on board your comments though 👍🏻👍🏻
I think it is a matter of some values, or I should say desires of why you buy a particular bike from particular manufacturer. What was the reason why you bought this bike? Is it looks, specs, speed? I considered for a long time what bikes to buy and I went practical. Honda for commuting and Triumph Tiger for travelling. Both are extremely reliable. Both give great satisfaction from riding. Never on my rides in Alps, Pyrenees, Italian country side etc I was over taken by any GS or KTM. There are speed limitations in many shapes and forms and you would not use 170 or so BHP (bad road, rain, police cameras, sand on the road etc.). I do not hate KTM, but from practical perspective - they are expensive problems on the wheels. 100bhp gives more than enough adrenaline on tied roads I bed if somebody is not a professional racer would not over take a good rider on bikes like Tiger 900, Husqvarna Norden 901 and similar. So I did not see the point of getting a KTM at all. The mentioned bikes are also comfortable and fun to ride. But if you value the brand tag more than reliability and all what I mentioned above its fine, it is individual choice. But it is a shame that your chosen brand leaves you with this problems.
I bought this with the attention it was a good bike with no problems but little did I know they are very unreliable. Had I know that I wouldn’t have bought it that would be madness.
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I hope this will be fixed for you soon, so you can just enjoy riding!
My mate Steve's 1290 had the gear position sensor fail at 700 miles on the way to france we spent a day of our holiday at a ktm dealer getting it sorted ..it's put me off of getting one tbh ..
Mate I’m the same really disapointed but sort of expected after all the reviews. Cheers pal 👍🏻👍🏻
@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE on a good note after that happened last June it's been OK since ..Iv got my slot booked on the new 1390 next year ..should be a beast.
I think it is common issue of all modern bikes. No matter if it is Japan or Europe. I had 3 brand new motorcycles since 2021 and all of them has issues. Luckily all was sorted under warranty.
On Yamaha Tracer 9 there was issue with throttle body. On Aprilia Tuareg the was issue with heated grips. And finally on my current KTM 1290 SAS 2024 I had leaking fork seals. Even the BMW 1300 GS has issues
Yes totally agree but I have had not much look with KTM after service and going touring soon so it is very frustrating 👍🏻👍🏻
I had a Range Rover Vogue many years ago and it gave me so many errors. The fix was a new battery.
Yup even though the old battery measured ok, it wasn’t ok.
Changed it over and errors all gone.
Oh the dreaded Range Rover I’ve had 3 all with issues. But yeah have heard that the batteries could be the issue 👍🏻👍🏻
Just shooting in the dark here, but have you tried swapping the battery for a Lithium ion one? Some bikes seem to have this issue that if for whatever reason the voltage drops below a certain point, the ECU/sensors go haywire and cause all sorts of errors to pop up. For some peeps the Li ion batts worked a charm.
This is only half the issue buddy but yes I’ve heard the same. The bike has now gone 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE Hope you have a better luck on the next one!
@StygianX thanks buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi crazylegs
I’ve had the KTM 1290 SAS since it was released in October 2021 , first year was great enjoying such a great and amazing power house of a bike in the second year of ownership I had stalled my bike a couple of times while out riding through fault of my own, once restarting my bike in traffic and quickly moving off again I noticed that screen had light up like a Christmas tree, after this I experienced similar problems as your self and only through trial and error of experimenting I found out the causes to sensory issues
Once doing this I had no issues since, if you would like to talk about what I found out regarding this matter feel free to reply and don’t get disheartened as it might work as a solution for you and glad to help a fellow biker with what I experienced with this bike,
Best regards Dan
Dan thanks for this and your offer to help is very much appreciated unfortunately though this is only half the story and I have plans for it to go now 👍🏻👍🏻
Seems like you were having a battery issue. They say install a higher crank amp battery and that will fix most problems..
Yes many people say that but it’s when the engine light came on for me also other issues regarding the build etc just put me off. Thanks for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Sols my 1290 because of issues poor service from dealers too . good luck with resolving your problems 😮
Mate thanks and yes 100% dealer issues also saying no issue as when cleared it’s not showing anything I’m done too 👍🏻👍🏻
SOLD .....lol
Good old KTM 🤦
My son bought a new 790 duke that had constant issues, practically every time he rode it there'd be a different problem , zero help from the dealership who even cracked his TFT when it went for a service, they denied it too.
A mechanic I know bought a new 1290 adv, same story, eventually he refused to give the courtesy bike back because it was reliable.
I love the look of the new 990 duke but I wouldn't touch one with a bargepole.
KTM need to seriously up their game.
Thanks mate for your comment now I have got rid of the bike it is satisfying that I made the right decision after hearing all the comments. They really need to up there game 👍🏻👍🏻
Bought a 2021 yamaha tracer 9 new. 3k km's no problems, my first trip summer 2021 it left me stranded 2500km from home (engine didnt want to start untill turning the ignition on/off from 1 to 100 times at random) made it home like this.. it was a TPS sensor issue, which they supposedly fixed. in 2022 my second trip on the bike my plan was nordkapp, only made it to sweden when the same issue returned. Drove home and sold the damn thing... unreliable bikes that u mainly use for road trips are just a giant headache.
That’s some bad luck buddy nothing worse. I’m the same now enough is enough confidence has gone 👍🏻👍🏻
Just got rid of my 1290 Superduke that was new in September 23. Had same issues and it also broke down in me. No confidence in the bike, lost a fortune, never but a KTM again
Thanks for sharing buddy seeing comments like this reinforces my decision as being the right one to get rid 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE like you say in the video you shouldn’t have to doubt a new bike. I am going to Spain next month and was going to take my sd but wouldn’t have enjoyed wondering whether it was going to breakdown in the Pyrenees. If you do px it you will take a hit on the value.
can you buy the diagnostic lead for it and connect it to your laptop to read the codes and reset it if need be?
wont fix the issue but possible it may point to whats causing it
This is only half the story buddy and when it’s been plugged in at ktm no causes are showing 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE those bloody intermittent electrical faults can be a nightmare to find
At least KTM give you a free dog to keep you company on those long walks back from the dealer 😉. I picked up a Triumph 1200 GT Pro last year from a dealer who sold KTM & Triumph, had it delivered by van I asked the driver which make are you called out for the most - his reply Triumph! Lol. So far so good for my Triumph - zero issues so far but if you want absolute reliability buy a V Strom
Haha great 👍🏻 yes I’ve got rid now I need the reliability and unfortunatly fell out of love with the bike. Thanks for comment 👍🏻👍🏻
I use to get errors come up on mine mate then I disconnect everything I had hard wired to my bike and I have never had one again mate I am sure these errors come from when battery see any kind of drain of power
Tried everything mate and the ktm dealer not interested it’s not just this their are other factors as well. Silly things like emblems falling off. Rust forming this is the last straw for me and proper fell out of love with her. Remember the elec issues I had with the Ducati not going through that again. I have the picos in two weeks too so that’s stressing me. Cheers for comment pal and glad you got yours sorted 👍🏻👍🏻
My 2013 990SMT lacks all the fancy geegaws the new models sport, but so far has been dead reliable. I do find myself wanting more horsepower and will perhaps try out a first gen 1290 GT someday.
It seems to be the 1290 that has the issue loads of comments suggesting this for some reason 👍🏻👍🏻
That’s gutting.. not just the financial impact it’s the hassle of finding a new bike and everything that goes with it! KTM need to sort these issues out as their reputation is starting to precede them
Mate it is you think new bike would be a good bet but deffo lived up to its reputation. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Might be worth getting an OBD2 tool to read and clear codes.
Bikes going buddy this is only half the story really 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE oooh damn. I just got a new 2022 1290 SAS a month or two ago. Going well so far.
Hoping to ride it for a few years minimum before I change. Camped a few times on it already. Had a preload sensor come up twice but just turn off and on gain and ok.
No other issues really. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
Mate with the preload at startup try to have it in neutral that stopped that at least on mine 👍🏻👍🏻
I thought it would have been making sure I’m not sitting on the bike when I start it.
Totally understand your feelings mate. I have a twelve year old Tiger Explorer 1200 and touch wood been amazing. I paid £5k. You shouldnt have these issues soending three times that on new!! You have a right to be pissed off.
Thanks pal yes it’s disheartening 👍🏻👍🏻
I like the angry kid analogy. I own a KTM and have had certain issues with it which certainly live up to the reputation of the brand.
they are fun bikes. BUT!...
Haha it’s true though and yes they are very fun bikes and could take your licence if not careful 🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻
Ohh for the days of 80's, 90's, 2000's bikes. They might of handled like a jelly but they didn't have all this c**p going on. I do own a small KTM by the way, two years, no issues. Touch wood.
yes I loved the KTM and would have held onto it had it had no issues.
Are you using the ktm mobility as breakdown and if you are is that the only cover you have
I have full Aa cover 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE full AA cover with the ktm mobility?
From personal experience find another company too use a that way if your unlucky enough to breakdown least you will get picked up and not stranded in another country
@@markjohnson7889 I have aa European too but the bike has gone now 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE couldn’t trust it I guess I’ve got a super adventure had no issues for 2 years went away last year in France the bike wouldn’t start called breakdown ktm mobility it’s AA wouldn’t pick me up said I was not covered I was untill 2026 ended up bein stuck for 2 days never again will I use them my dealerships fine it was just the AA let me down
Just to say, mine is mint, not had any issues going to keep it forever!
That’s good news pal hope you don’t have any issues they are great bikes. I’ve lost all confidence and will be getting rid soon. 👍🏻👍🏻
Aah KTM, the French car of the bike world. Electrical woes! they're all like that sir.
Yes judging by a lot of comments on here they definitely live up to their name. 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi pal. Superduke GT owner, bought in June 2023. My dealership closed down so when I got the Christmas tree lights on my dash I've had to take it elsewhere. First time it happened was in Scotland on a tour with friends, got cornering light unit failure which came on and disappeared frequently, so the ECM/ECU shit itself and gave me mtc, suspension failure, cornering abs, normal abs, general failure and all sorts but beyond that it went into limp mode. Still 100 horses but not nice when you're enjoying the ride for you to lose almost half the power. Then the whole dash started flashing with errors plus the full beam began randomly flashing as I was riding. Worked fine the next day, and after the first ride to fill up, one off and on cycle, the engine light disappeared. Great run. On the run home it started again on the motorway, and at one point the throttle stopped responding which is no fun. Came back again a second later. Thought it was fixed (dealership swapped the right hand switchgear, apparently that was giving some grief) but it's started again. Went out yesterday to see how it was and coming out of a sharp right hand bend while at full lean, the throttle again didn't respond. Decided to come home to change my pants. Went for an overtake on a long straight road and it went again, absolutely no response. I'm livid. Going back again, so will see what happens. I don't trust it any more. Sorry to read you're getting rid of yours. The days mine works, it's a dream bike. I just don't know when it's going to work. What use is a GT that you can't tour on?
Exactly mate I don’t want to be in that position or worry about when is it going to play up or worse perform some of the issues you explain. My mind is made up it’s going I’m going to cut my losses and look elsewhere. Cheers for comment and view much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE good luck with whatever you decide to go with mate. Hope it works well for you 👍
All bikes do have issues. But the big 4 have way less than anyone else. Saying that, I've got a Triumph currently so I'm touching wood....🤣
They do buddy some more than others 👍🏻👍🏻
Ive had 2 1290 GT's. Had no real issues in 50K miles. I always carried a download OBD reader. Its the size of a cigarette box and will clear all faults. I stalled mine filling up for the ferry and got an engine light and limp mode at start of a 3000 mile trip. I stopped and cleared the memory. All was good after that. You really need one if you have a KTM. Got mine off eBay years ago. They throw loads of shit codes up. it doesn't bother me, as I work on Italian helicopters. They do throw codes!!!
This is only half the story pal but what a good idea and would give piece of mind cheers buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
I own a 2013 KTM 1190 Adventure R
When it's running well, it's so much fun, best bike I've ever owned.
But it's only a matter of time until something new brakes. Then it gets fixed. Then repeat.
& KTM parts seem to be 2x as expensive as Japanese parts.
Yes this is the issue and for me it’s thinking what’s going to break next. Thanks for the comment much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻
It might not like the Nobbly tyres 🤷🏻♂️
I know it shouldn't be, but if it keeps detecting the slipping its not going to like it
Not that pal plenty of ktms using them and it doesn’t explain the cruise control and preload sensors even shot an error up for the transponder today on way to dealer 😩😩
I hope it gets fixed.
Mate thanks but I’m done with it onwards and upwards she had a chance 😃👍🏻👍🏻
what is that jacket? nice
Hey buddy it’s a furygan vented summer jacket cost about £130 pounds 👍🏻👍🏻
Well it seems all manufactures have issues. My Triumph 765 lasted three months before electrics killed it. Ended up getting full refund from dealer who were great - Triumph HQ not so and could;nt fix the fault. Current new bike BMWR1250 RS also has an issue with the SOS system - a known fault apparently when I went to the dealer and BMW are looking to "hopefully" deliver a software update in July - Ive just been told to ignore that amber warning triangle on the TFT screen .......a new bike should be 100% from the off but it seems new tech added every year means increasing issues.....
Absolutely buddy thanks for comments 👍🏻👍🏻
Personally I wasn't really a fan of the KTM brand, until I seen yours & wish I'd asked for a seat on it now! 😂
Intermittent electrical faults are the worst sort sadly! ☹️
It's maybe a sign you seeing all them tractors here mate...Maybe another BMW coming Soon! 😉👍
Well now you come to mention it 🤣🤣
@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE See those stickers i gave you,stick 1 over the EM light & just pretend it's fine!!! 🤬😉👍
I'm in no way really a tractor fan,but that was the most tractors I've ever seen in my life & was impressive to watch! 👍😬
been looking at trading my gsa in on a new GT after owning 2 previous models i think i will stay with gs evan though i have never had any issues with mine i have a 790 duke no issues owned 890 duke and 390adv no issues🤘👍👍🤘
Do you know what I know there are several bikes that won’t cause issues but I was unfortunate in this case. The fact you don’t expect these issues on a new bike is what makes it hard to accept. 👍🏻👍🏻
@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I get that . A part from the 890 all mine have been 2nd hand with more than 5000 miles which you would have expected them to have all the issues sorted were as a new bike could have been built on a Friday 😬
Ktm s can be really frustrating I’ve had a constant fork leak on my 690 since I bought it always go when I’m fully loaded with camping gear 😠😠
Mate it’s frustrating and takes your confidence 👍🏻👍🏻
To be fair mate that would really annoy me too.
Mate I’m done with it now I’ve had some kind of issue from the start even little things like decals falling off 👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE shouldn’t happen on a bike that new mate.
Agreed pal it’s disheartening
I feel for you buddy but there's a reason why KTM's signature colour is R.A.C Orange. . .
Haha yes absolutely 👍🏻 true
For everyone that has troubles with KTM's there's others that never have an issues. It's still not good enough by any stretch for me to consider a KTM as nice as they seem. Life is short, get a turbo Hayabusa.
Yep agree don’t think a hayabusa is in my skill set though 🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻
The cost of ownership for a KTM is only rivaled by fellow European manufacturers. That being BMW, Ducati, ect.
Yes true totally get that I think even if it was a cheap bike no issues should manifest that’s the difficult part of it. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE There's a saying in Africa. "If you want to ride into Africa take a European bike, if you want to come back take a Japanese bike. Down here we live by this for cars and bikes
Id be giving KTM a couple of chances to repair it, if unsuccessful then reject it for a full refund. If it's on finance speak to them. You don't have to keep a faulty new bike
Mate it’s going to many horror stories I’m hearing. Not on finance so going to part chop I think 👍🏻👍🏻
KTM need to sort their shit out theses electronic issues are a joke! my 2017 1290 gt suspension seized up,electronic issue again thats 7 years now and they still haven't sorted stuff out and its not good enough,i would love another ktm but thats never going to happen
Mate that’s bad but that’s why I don’t want to pursue with KTM because I have no confidence 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi. I totally get your frustration.
Last thing you need on a new bike is errors appearing.
I own two KTM’s 1290 SDR and 690 SMCR. They’ve been pretty error free apart from the rhs switch gear pooping itself after riding the 1290 in heavy rain. That got swapped out and sorted via the warranty.
I’ve also been told by a KTM tech that the 1290 is very precious when it comes to battery voltage. If the battery is slightly low it throws up all sorts of false error codes. Not saying this is the case with yours but something to know. Also here’s a vid I did of resetting the engine light yourself.
Again it probably won’t fix your issue but handy to know.
czcams.com/users/shortsdUS62Wp2YgY?si=78oiaO-Jn2nGDmhW
Sorry it’s made you loose trust in the brand, I’ve been lucky I guess.
As you said you can get issues off the bat with any branded bike.
Take it easy and enjoy your trip.
Thanks buddy and thanks for taking the time to send me the link and your experiences. Unfortunately I am moving on from this bike now and going to another brand 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I was reading some of the other comments and gathered that’s what you were going to do.
Hopefully your next bike will be less troublesome.
Take care and ride safe.
The only reason why i dont buy ktm and nerver have is the series called "long way round" feature Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boardman when out of the blue ktm pulled out with no explanation. They turned to bmw who didn't pull out at all. "I am guessing" ktm knew their bikes weren't up to the task and bmw knew their bikes were up to the challenge.
Yeah remember that and good point 🤣👍🏻
According to what I saw, KTM pulled out because they lacked confidence in Charley and Ewen and were concerned that them failing to complete the trip would hurt the brand. 🤷♂️
@Kevimoto I believe that 👍🏻👍🏻
@@Kevimoto why didn't BMW pull out?
@@spencerlucas5835 I have no idea. That's probably a better question for BMW. 🤷♂️
I hope you'll find a solution soon, sow you can still enjoy the KTM
Cheers buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
Komplete Teknikal Meltdown?
Keep Taking Money?
True buddy should have listened 👍🏻👍🏻
You couldn't give me a bike full of the Electronics....prefer an older bike and do all my own maintenance....get great riding pleasure ...and satisfaction.
Probably the best choice if I’m honest to steer away from bikes full of electronics. The older ones never had these issues. Cheers for comment buddy 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE I went all around Europe on a 1985 GSXR 750 last summer....my mate had various electrics problems the whole two weeks... especially in rain...mine never had a single problem...very little to go wrong is the beauty of it...only need take a spare bulb maybe 😊 Good Luck on your trip Pal.👍
Me too - Bandit 1200 , screw & lock nut tappets - no electrics = no dealers. Full service cost is only filters & oils !!
Blimey I’ve seen a lot of issues on CZcams with KTMs , seems they are running before they can walk with the electronics. Even worse as your off overseas.
This is only half the story buddy so is going end of this week 👍🏻👍🏻
Never again will I buy a KTM! I had a voided warranty on an engine failure. KTM UK are corrupt as F@@k. Worst customer service ever. 2000 miles after rebuild the cam was knackered. Absolute worst build quality and reliability I’ve ever had on two wheels!
Wow out of all the comments that is the worst ive heard 👍🏻👍🏻
a line of gs but at least reliable
Haha mate true and I may be swerved down that route after this cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
@@CRAZYLEGSONABIKE good luck with it mate
Ktm are renowned for electrical faults,all speed and poor reliability.
And they have certainly lived up to there name 👍🏻👍🏻
O man that’s wank when you loose confidence in your bike I’ve had it before
Gutted for ya mukka
But
Onwards and Upwards
Thanks buddy yes disheartening but is what it is. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
never will i ever own another KTM keeps taking money, they are pieces of junk, I would rather spend my money on an indian or chinese brand, Take it back and get your money back while you still can
Mate with you on that so many bad comments from people’s experiences 👍🏻👍🏻
Mate that’s KTM for you,,get it chopped in and buy a GS! Best kinda bike for what you’re doing,,after all KTM stands for Keeps Taking Money!!
Mate yes I should have listened to people before I bought it. And yes a gs maybe on the cards now. Cheers for comment pal 👍🏻👍🏻
Ask any independent dealer & recovery companies, what's the bike with most issues? Yip GSs albeit of course driven by the shear volume of them
Sorry for your hassle .But I'm on my 3rd Africa twin ,got them all serviced at honda and never had an issue with none of them . Been all over Europe 7 years on the trot Manual and now dct , they suit my needs and I'm happy honda . ✌️🫥
Mate you can’t go wrong with Honda and they fill you with confidence 👍🏻👍🏻
I’m with you man. I’ve been riding Honda’s for over 40 years. Toured all over Europe countless times. Never had one single problem. I wouldn’t even consider another brand.