C.S. Lewis & Intelligent Design
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- "C.S. Lewis and Intelligent Design" is the third of three short documentaries inspired by the book The Magician's Twin: C.S. Lewis on Science, Scientism, and Society. Lewis is best known for his magical stories about Narnia, but a new documentary explores his life-long struggle to find intelligent design in a world filled with pain. For more information visit www.cslewisweb.com.
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13:00 “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”
― Robert Jastrow
I started as an atheist or anti-theist. Thanks to C.S. Lewis I have come a long way. Thank you for the video.
+Michael Sharp (TechniSmart) Congratulation brother. I'm really Happy for your decision. press on in the name of the Lord Jesus. God bless you.
Thank you Jimmy, I cannot lose my faith. God has a plan for us and we need to be ready to serve to see His Kingdom expanded. God bless you too.
Michael Sharp
amen my brother.....
Same here brother. During my earlier and more ignorant years I though that God doesn't exist, that Christians are hateful (and trust me some CAN be), and that if God did exist then he is horrible and someone I would never want to seek religion in. And then when I started reading about C.S. Lewis I began to think how amazing his word is and how it shed light up on me and opened up my mind.
If I may:
It is said that the 'waste and seeming Cruelty' of Nature mitigates against there being a Loving God!
Some Christians have an Answer yet don't realize that they have it!
A few Christians will give 'THE' Answer in something like this:
"There's something WORSE than this World's pain and suffering!"
Let me briefly explain:
"God uses 'PAIN' to get our Attention!
That's the meaning behind Matthew 19:24- "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
Money delays or even stops man from turning to God for help!
A poor man hits his knees for his dying child.
A rich man sends for the best doctors.
Can you dig it?
C.S Lewis was a genius. Brilliant man.
He was nobody wanting to tell everybody about somebody...Jesus Christ.
"Follow the argument where it leads". From 'UNDESIGN' to design, intelligently constructed with pattern, grace, beauty and integrated function. Thank you for this fetching and beautiful presentation of the brilliance of C.S.Lewis.
I Love C.S. Lewis and Dr. John Warwick Montgomery (he corresponded with Lewis prior to his passing - I should say graduation to heaven).
“We shall live to remember the galaxies as an old tale” -- C.S. Lewis
My favorite quote from this marvelous soul.
For my own part, my mind is not nimble or patient enough to "follow the argument," but I am able enjoy a quote and share with a group that appreciates.
Science does not refute God, it reveals God. Truth is discovered, as science does. Science has become a worldview (scientism) - something it was never intended to be - instead of being the lens from which we can observe Truth and Reality.
Nature and science help us to understand ourselves and God better.
Nonsense.
Scientists don't know exactly what occurred prior to the Planck Epoch. No one knows.Nothing supernatural has been proven, ever. It is more likely, probable and rational to conclude that the universe originated naturally and an omnipotent entity from another dimension didn't magically create everything from nothing.
Jaco Stadler science refutes most of the Bible and depending on which god you are refeurring to most of the claims about god. CS Lewis was an okay writer until he was writing about god at which time he was dreadfully incoherent.
Jaco: how beautiful.
I am really amazed at how open to reason this man's mind was. This man was a boss. Very humble. I would have liked to have met him. Maybe I will meet him one day. Matthew 5:28, 29
Thanks very much to the producers for sharing that history through these videos.
So many people bash on intelligent design. But is it actually logical to believe in a universe that has order and organization to the degree it does and believe it was produced by random chance? The universe is not eternal, has enough time passed for the nearly innumerable probabilities of chance to play out to create life? How many times does coincidence have to play out before it is not considered coincidence anymore? Has science become a religion for people who cannot cope with their guilty conscience? Science explains things that are repeatable and observable but when you use a theory to cover another theory to cover another theory etc. and their is no personal knowledge that it is true or can be proven, that is called blind faith and that is even weaker than a religion. When someone looks at the evidence and interprets it to fit their world view, that is not science. So how does believing in God and religion differ? It is truly simple, God can be known on a personal level. That is one huge difference between an athiest using blind faith to believe in things like evolution, Abiogenesis and other theories and a believer in God. When you pray and you have prayers answered and you see miracles you realize God is very real. It has happened to me and my family multiple times. My dad survived a horrible brain tumor, after we prayed the tumor liquified out of his head before he had to have surgery which they gave him less than 1% survival rate. My sister was cured of a severe illiness through the power of prayer also. These things happen when one believes in God. It has Happened innumerable times to people of faith. But it is actually useless for me to mention these things. Because most people will mock me or think I am lying. That is fine, feel free to make fun, however it did happen and it was very real. If you want to see if God is real, why dont you do the most scientific thing you could ever do and pray to God in a sincere manner and ask him to intervene in your life and wait and see what happens. If you cannot even do that, then you have no room to criticize religion or God. For your mind is closed and you are truly not as smart as you think, you are too tangled up in the small things in life and you miss the grand scheme of things. Jesus had witnesses, the bible has plenty of archaeology showing what happened was true, it had multiple witnesses and it had multiple miracles all documented. The same cannot be said for Abiogenesis, evolution or the big bang theory. That is why they are called theories. They have no witnesses, no way to prove they are actual fact and they cannot be proven in real time. In 10 years from now they will probably come out with another theory again to explain away the old. I will take my chances with God, for it is against natural logic to see the wonders of the universe and believe they are by random chance.
Was this an exercise to see if you could include every bad reason for belief in one oversized paragraph?! You missed a few, but otherwise it was a largely successful effort to list as many misguided and ill-informed ideas that come from the minds of believers as you could cram into one comment. Nice work; it succeeded in reminding me of just how poorly a huge segment of the population reasons!
Learn to use paragraphs.
Right there with ya. Don't have the answers but just no longer able to ignore the impossible odds against arriving at this point in time by mere random chance/change alone. It's okay to question what we think we know.
Well said.
There is so much beauty in the truth. The truth is like the finest poetry; I get goosebumps whenever it is proclaimed. This video gave me goosebumps.
C.S. Lewis is the one of the best, if not the best, all time, writers. I have never hung on someone’s words like I have his. Materialism is contradictory. The double slit experiment totally disproves materialism. For states of energy to act materially, it has to be observed. For the universe to come into being, someone was observing it. This is not an opinion, it’s a scientific fact.
Im now a deep admirer of Jordan Peterson. Listen to his series on the bible.
jonathan moon
Totally agree with you the double slit experiment is fascinating and it really does question the current materialistic scientific paradigm. I suspect most people are not aware of its shocking results. Even atheists such as the brilliant mathematician Roger Penrose admit when it comes to the quantum world we really don’t know what “material” really means anymore. Similarly, Kurt Godel who’s work on mathematics was equal to anything Einstein developed showed through the ontological proof that the maximal being hypothesis is actually logical. Kurt Gödels incompleteness theorem is also very controversial as it proved that physics maths the universe etc was actually incomplete suggesting that “Faith and reason are not enemies In fact, the exact opposite is true! One is absolutely necessary for the other to exist. All reasoning ultimately traces back to faith in something that you cannot prove”.
Interestingly, according to the Nobel prize winner Richard Feynman mass and energy are actually abstract concepts and we don’t really know what they are which is why Feynman developed an abstract formula in an attempt to grasp quantum theory. All the best to you.
Antony Flew was always true. He wouldn't hesitate to admit he's wrong unlike most atheist now days
I as an atheist believe that you don't know what atheism is
Yes, very enlightened of him to admit to the possibility of God right when he was about to kick the bucket. What a courageous man.
Raphial Lee unfortunately nonbelievers today will say that any nonbeliever that comes to the belief in A god or The God is crazy and delusional.
"We should follow the argument wherever it leads" pretty clever quote from Socrates! The problem that we have most of the time is that Christians or religious people in general and Atheists is that they tend to be set in their ways with no option for open argument where they usually end up disrespecting each other!
And one thing that I learn sooner than later was to really listen.
So many times, we only seem to be listening to someone, our mouths are shut and we are looking at the other person, but inside we are preparing what we will say next and judging what the other person says, but instead we should be willing to learn, only then you will listen closely. Listening is an attitude, an openness! The best definition of listening that I have ever heard is " a willingness to be changed by what you hear" I love that. If you are unwilling to be changed (and I'm not saying you have to) but if you are unwilling to, you are not listening.
I find your statements to be true... A balloon is full of air the moment you start with your first breath.... Some people are the same way, God has filled their lives and they can't believe there could be more .... so they can't hear
Great response
I started as an atheist, and I still am. But I am curious about the ideas of people like Lewis. Thanks for putting the video together. I have a collection of his writings and am intrigued enough to read them now.
Let me tell you a personal story. This is a story my dad told me sometimes when we talk about God.
When my dad was younger, he said he used to go to this diner "not sure what the name was". He said that a rabbi used to go there too. This rabbi used to talk about religion, but there is one thing that he said that stood out. The rabbi said that you can see God manifest himself in nature. Basically you can see his handy work. When my dad told me this, I began to look at nature differently.
Just go out for a walk in the woods, take a nice stroll on the beach, look into the night sky, look at the sunrise and sunsets. You'll see God's beauty.
The more we learn from science and the more discoveries scientists reveal the more my faith in a creator is confirmed. Since my formative years in the 1960s, we have learned that a single cell is not "simple." We also learned that atoms are not the smallest organized particles. Think of a deciduous tree, it is actually a system that is activated by climate and weather. Systems do not create themselves. I have also learned that there are questions we may never answer so I accept what I know which is empirical.
I always love reading Lewis; he had the ability to paint scenes and build strong characters in them. I don't embrace his religion or philosophy but he is a great writer.
A TRULY fascinating man!
CS Lewis is a blessing to both atheist and Christianity. God had such a wonderful and grand design for him and helping others to pursue truths not just base facts on our feelings.
Thankyou, what a visual feast! With music, and delicious comprehensive thoughts, musing considerate commentary. Lewis would have enjoyed this. Till drawers awake, value has been discerned in thee!
Thank you for this reminder of CS Lewis!
A lucid, disciplined presentation. Recommended for all willing to go wherever the argument takes them.
Fascinating! Much respect for Lewis.
Observe the present confusion - negative, disappointing ---- but at the same time VISUALIZE AND ENERGIZE the ideal - the positive, creative, beautiful and uplifting . . . .... this way we can navigate through confusion without difficulty . . . ....
I thought this video would make me love CS Lewis more which I do when I found myself loving God even more than before thank you God forCS Lewis n all your other gifts
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this beautiful video!
Absolutely outstanding!
Wonderful film
Thank you
Unfortunately I'm unable to give more than 1 thumbs up. May God continue to be glorified in you. Thank you for sharing. I pray you are inspired, and funded to do more for the Kingdom.
Thanks for these videos
Excellent!
When things are wonderful, we want God to go away and stop telling us what to do.
When things are ugly, we want God to be with us and make Him promises that we'll be good.
Brilliant! 👌
THANK YOU FOR THAT VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!!!
Glory to God! That was beautiful thank you for this video! glory to God
Hi,,,,
I first was a creationist. Then questions like "why is there pain in the world" and "why does God let it all happen" drove me away and made me hate God. I turned to science, for "science" says there is no God. I noticed some "blind spots" in the evolution theory and after a while the whole thing seemed to have a taste of casuistry. Out of nothing sequence came to the universe and out of nothing DNA with information and all its complexity was born. And everything was supposed to be created by an mutation mechanism that has three ways to work one of which is actually breaking the DNA and hence destroying the information. In this case DNA loses some base pairs. Sickle cell anemia is good example of dispersing mutation. It gives some resistance towards malaria, but eventually kills its host. And as a matter of fact, it is the best example of positive mutation we are given, LOLOL XD. Most of the mutations are neutral or bad. I later found out the positive mutations, of which we should have plenty of examples for it is the base of evolution, are super rare. With common sense you can deduce that in order to get something build, you should build more than break. Wish I had the time to cover all the errors, but these were the biggest reasons that made me hear universe crying "I am made by someone!"
I turned back to Jesus and now everything makes sense. C.S.Lewis made me understand that free will is thing that was given us by God as an expression of his love. This made it possible for us decide to love Him or not to love Him. It is also gives us possibility to do good an to do bad. He cant take free will away hence then people would be like robots. Because of free will we do bad things. But it is also the free will that makes us capable to do good things. And the most important thing: One day every bad deed will be judged and every good deed will be paid... AND every evil thing done to somebody will be remunerated to him/her.
God is good!
Man of the north It is a habit of the mind to ascribe attributes to God - and label anything as either this or that, typically beneficial or detrimental to some degree. The mind deals with understanding and operates in dualisms. Like a computer, essentially - with 0s and 1s... It's merely a tool.
Can an intelligent tool understand its master?
Well, first of all: It isn't the mind which understands. Understanding springs from conscious contemplation of streams of events over time - including thought-streams.
So some intimate part of a human being must be indistinguishable from God in this aspect. We do create new understandings. This aspect is traditionally labeled "the holy spirit". The soul is different. It deals with determining if certain unconscious feelings to do with the entire biological organism are compatible with individual and genetic survival, it seems.
There are however a few things which can be known about God; for example:
1) God is eternal
2) God is willing
3) God is creating
But it's doubtful whether we can understand or explain what "eternity" is.
I'm this far still uncertain whether destruction is an important part of creating as well. It certainly seems to be. From a human perspective everything must decay. But from the eternal perspective nothing is lost, only changed.
The eternal creating seems to balance the law of entropy perfectly - and yet our scientists cannot seem to reach a general unified theory for this miraculous universal balance - or even agree upon its existence...
Where's the formula describing the relationship between entropy and creating? How does God do it, for gods sakes!
Man of the north Amen
And, in great part, we owe C.S. Lewis, as we have him, to G.K. Chesteron.
Me too. My loop-hole in evolution theory is simply that our nervous system is very similar to the snail's. So when man evolved, we got back a feature that doesn't seem to have cropped up in many mammals. This doesn't look like nature going above & beyond (as if it could) but looks to me like a person putting something away for later.. :)
God is unfortunately neither good or bad.
God set the rules and we choose to follow or not. The consequences are real. You can't fly God will not save you in you fall you will die. And be recycled.
Like a continuous chemical reaction.
We are experiencing this point in space. We are a product of the motion of past moments in space.
God records but does not judge.
What a great mind he had !
Sometimes I struggle with a terrible fear that we're all alone, and that there's nothing but oblivion after death. It throws me into such deep depression and worry that is difficult to shake. Listening to things like this sometimes helps ease it a little. Thanks.
We are not alone.
Flew smiles in heaven, seated next to his friend
Well done! Bravo!
Intelligent design makes total sense !
Well done. An important video especially with the anniversary of Lewis's death upon us. Only I wish you had included some of what Lewis actually said to support the descriptions of what he believed. Thank you.
Instead they put on these talking heads who all have something wrong with their mouths, and weird looks in their eyes, and books to sell.
Wonderful. 😍
Atheism says, finding himself in a labyrinth, one could never trump a field mouse to suspect there is a way out. Lacking design, it would never occur to the atheist... and so he dies in the labyrinth, preserving his hateful fate, with no way out...when we all know better. Some do live Stupidity even feigning intelligence. It's not right. Give thanks and praise, not to science, but to Who created all we should discover...It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, and the honor of kings to discover Him. :)
Very good post. (:D
An atheist and a Christian are standing and admiring a house. The Christian exclaims how the design and beauty of the house really express the brilliance of the man who built the house. The atheist turns to the Christian, and says condescendingly, "I hate to break it to you, but this house wasnt built by a human; it was built by a hammer."
Wish I could give it a thumbs-up.
The fourth argument, ID through complexity, can be verified by science and math. The biological code in DNA requires a Software Engineer and biological Programmer.
no it does NOT!!! your ignorance is showing!
No, it doesn't any more than a software engineer can understand a self-balancing neural net purely from its weights.
So who programed god?
Brilliant observation sir thank you for the input.🎯
The brutal harshness of nature, the intelligent design is soaked in, seems to be not only pointing to a designer, it sets the rule by which life evolves. Cycles purify or/and classify everything (solid,liquid,gas) in groups/categories/classifications.
This applies particularly to humans. Hence the looming of final inspection/ assessment/ judgement for quality control!
From this video it follows that design, as a process, is incomprehensible and unknowable.
Shalom! Could you please tell me: Did C.S. Lewis ever write (something like) the following: "We can even imagine creatures coming from the future, living / going into the past."
Great video 😃💜👍🇦🇺
I walked through the Halls of karma,shook hands with both,one offer's life, the other death,by design i am unable to consider less,one gives one takes,one is peace one is war,,one is hope,the other only hopelessness,,one condemned,one forgiven,thank you.
How can we intelligently design something like the train engine for example if the materials we use are NOT intelligently designed?
Are the patterns in each individual snowflake (each one is different) designed? If so, then this "intelligent designer" must be pretty busy. If not, then how do you tell the difference between patterns which are not the result of intelligent design and which ones are?
Robert Blythe’s voice , is the conclusion to the argument for intelligent design. 😇
I have a question which nobody has ever responded to in the negative or positive. If life evolved how did the rattle snake evolve a rattle, how did the skunk and the bees/wasps evolve their warning stripes? these devices are not defensive but warnings. That would require not only conscious thought but a conscience on the part of the animal. Think about it as my friend Steve says.
I've thought about what people say, concerning a 'multiverse' to explain it's fine-tuning of physical laws. That we just happen to be on the right one, out of a googelplex+ of duds. Here's a question that I never hear asked and answered by them. Why would there 'be' physical laws at all? Why do Protons, Neutrons and Electrons, have anything to do with each other at all? Why do they cohere and dance around each other, if there isn't any motivation to do so? How could there be a relationship of matter, if said things just pop into existence, randomly? The answer is really simple. They were designed to have that relationship!
Amazing! Thank you for posting this. God endowed man with a free will, intelligence and memory so that we may freely CHOOSE to Follow Jesus who is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE. Love how C.S. Lewis chose to use his God given intelligence to pursue the truth wherever it led, and it led him and many others like the well known atheist to GOD!. Glory to GOD who wills to share with us His LIFE!
Intelligent Design is really so obvious to the open-minded person that the only logical explanation as to why a person would not accept it is because they reject the notion that they would be accountable to the Intelligent Designer!
Great video, and I actually enjoyed the background music from beginning to end.
Omar, it's pretty, but doesn't need to be so loud as to distract from hearing the words.
Science studies the realm of *_Continuity,_* and it is this continuity which gives us the predictability we see as cause-and-effect coincidence -- the types of correlation that derive from a causal relationship. We see this in the smoothness of space and time, the continuity of physical effects (momentum, inertia, energy states, heat content, etc.), and the commensurability between causes and their expected effects.
Spirituality studies the realm of *_Discontinuity,_* and it is this discontinuity which allows for Free Will, separate from the deterministic effects of physical reality -- but only for choosing whether or not to be physical (ego) or spirit (child of God). This discontinuity also gives us intuition, inspiration, forgiveness and miracles.
I wonder if it makes sense to show horn Lewis’s ideas into and ID mould which did not exist in its modern sense when he was alive.
Would happen to have it written? I want this text, beautiful.
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See under Description, the CS lewis site. These are from his writings and Radio shows mostly during WWII. This video is a updated version of it. I recommend my Favorite "Screwtape Letters" by him.
The 'creator/designer' argument simply begs the question "who or what created/designed the designer?" So you're simply left with an infinite regress. The only escape is to admit either that complexity has always existed, and cosmology as far as we know seems to deny this, or that somehow complexity and adaptation can naturally arise out of simplicity, i.e. evolution takes place at every level. I rest my case :-)
The argument from Beautiy is easy to dispute.
Humans who enjoyed clean, life filled environments were more likely to find food and avoid disease. Humans who enjoyed views were more likely to spot threats, prey, or other opportunities. Humans who liked certain shapes in humans were more likely to mate with the healthy/fit ones. If appreciation for "beauty" is merely another form of fitness or a low cost exaggeration of that fitness.
If malaria mutated into a symbiote that extended your life, made you more healthy, and made you more attractive, humans would have ascetic taste for putrid swamps and within 10,000 years.
Music so loud I can hardly hear the speaking. Please redo.
Duane Brown I’ve heard way way worse. I think it’s okay, I can hear it just fine. Definitely heard ones that are impossible to endure and they usually have hundreds of comments complaining. I don’t see that here at all. In fact I see a comment just below saying they enjoyed the music and it has eight upvotes! Yet:Youve ORDERED them to redo the entire video JUST for you? Do you know how Much work that is? Are you a really important CEO used to ordering peolpe to do things or an self entitled millennial just a puffed up pastor type? It’s easier for everybody if you just go away and watch content you approve of your majesty.
Whats funny is that WE have the need to "moralise" our existence in order to experience it!
A truly great mind. Follow the argument to where it logically leads, like Flew did ...
Indeed, although it took Flew a long time. But he ended up with the same conclusion as Lewis. Thanks for your comment.
Question to both sides: Just to insert some Intelligent deep thought:- the post it note was an accident via they were designing a glue, and spilled it but it is still intelligent design, like as Brad Stine says that the Duckbill Platypus was made with leftover parts, .... but the name confuses me, why have "Duckbill" part of the name? The closest thing we have to a Platypus without the Duckbill is the Beaver right?
In my opinion the phrase "In an age of increasing dogmatism in the name of science" (14:10) is a phrase of propaganda of the dogmatism in the name of religion. There might exist some "dogmatists in the name of science" (with claimers of "intelligent design" in the name of science leading the way) but they should not be mixed up with "scientists" in general.
"Dogmatism in the name of science" means that science is being abused by dogmatists. It does not say that all the scientists abuse science but that dogmatists ones do.
"Beautiful World"
Some of us spend hours
In front of a Friday night mirror
Trying to understand the kinda world
Where the beautiful prosper
Slicking up the kinda hair
That the magazine's say's a lost cause
Picking out the kinda girl in your mind
To go walking with you
Yesterday I met a girl
She made Marilyn Monroe look like... me
All she had to do was walk in the room
And my problems were starting
Then she'd at me and she'd smile
And I feel feel such a pain in my heart
Wanting her to come and whisper to me
"You're the man of my dreams"
[Chorus:]
Beautiful world, beautiful world
Sending me dreams, touching my hair
Making me cry... So I feel alive
Beautiful world, why do I hide?
I dunno why
I should spend so much time feeling so bad
I got everything a sinner could hope to get
This side of Eden
Maybe some day I'll wake up
And I'll do what I should
Write a song to make Heaven and Earth
Go waltzing in time
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''Reason Why The Creator Came 1st''
The Creator, He came 1st.
His Rooster, he came 2nd.
His Hen, she came 3rd.
Did she not have to be laid before all 3 entities eggs ever could?
Does not then... Creation Demand A Creator?
-I, William Gilpin wrote that. 102219
i was looking for other Lewis, i thought this was gonna be a comedy skit
The more, intellectually challenged atheists are often people who, if they were walking down the street and the clouds parted and a vast finger appeared from a vast hand that filled the whole sky that a million others saw and which tapped them on the shoulder while a booming voice said, "I am God" would reply, "No you are not!" Then he or she would rush home in a fret to try and think of 500 ways why it could not be God that did that to him or her and the million witnesses were all wrong. Finally, the Atheist would settle for something like, "Someone must of put LSD in the water supply and everyone had the same delusion." Satisfied he/she would then go to his local atheist club or forum on the Internet to be reassured by a Dawkins broadcast that he/she came to the right conclusion and he was going to write a new book to prove it was a plot by Christian extremists to drug the whole of the Western world because religion cannot let go of the idea of using "superstition" to control people.
+InTheNameOfJustice I am God!
Wassily Kandinsky
I used to hang around with someone else who really believed that also. Fortunately, I got rescued.
You identify with your angry deity, look where it takes you, hate for them don’t think you’re way
If you enjoy C.S. Lewis, you'll probably love C.S Lewis Doodle...
Watch "The Funeral of a Great Myth (of Popular Evolution) by C.S. Lewis Doodle" on CZcams
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Great fun if you haven't see these.
Fifty some C.S.Lewis and Joy Lewis writings in audio form, and illustrated by doodles. 😊
Lewis will have an eternal influence on humanity. Thank you Lord God for creating him! :)
Actions have consequences. Those actions that add value to civilization and the universe tend to be moral; those which subtract value tend to be immoral. This frequently equates to altruism vs. selfishness (egoism).
Seek & you will find...but then you have to obey...why so many deniers exist...
""C.S. Lewis and Intelligent Design" is the third of three short documentaries ...". It would have been nice if the publisher had given the titles, and better yet, links, to the other two. I'm guessing that "C.S. Lewis and Evolution" (czcams.com/video/PNNUPN3-WeM/video.html) is another one. I don't know what the third is. If I find it I will come back and post.
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The mandelbrot set if you understand it essentially shows how the most complicated a pattern can be derived from the simplest of iterations essentially disprove intelligent design Maxwell's demons and the mandelbrot set put together show out the complexity of life is the expected outcome of a millionaire interation or billion or trillion or whatever it takes to get to us
So many of these arguments, whether scientific or philosophical, break down when one has the Transcendent experience that all these ideas are pointing to. Thomas Aquinas said of his "experience" that all of his writings are mere straw after such a realization. So, it seems then that morality is elucidated and is not "followed" anymore.
What is the name of the beautiful British narrator?
oh boy this does my good in these reprobate times
While ID doesn't lead us to the God and Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, it can help to clear away some of the obstacles that unbelief puts in the way. Some of the videography in this film is exquisite.
If you see smoke in a forest you know there is fire. Intelligent design is self-evident that there is a Super-Mind behind it all. St. John poetically wrote, "In the Beginning was Logos, and Logos was with God, and Logos was God." Before the first nano-second, Logos--reason, mind, intellect, speech---was with God. And God thru this Logos who exist in absolute unity brought about time-n-space and everything in it.
At the end of the day, we who affirm and accept reason as the source of knowledge beyond must live in confidence that God is truly and really is in CONTROL.
So be it !!!
And who designed the designer?
Why does God have to be designed?
Beautiful visuals. Thank you.
All men are not created equal, that is clear on its face. The question is: are we of equal inherent worth? Our economy says 'NO.' A mother is supposed to think so, but rarely does.
While I am unsure of the part about "learning _new_ truths" as that seems to allow too much movement of the Overton Window in too many cases, I believe that those who argue (at least very recently) for atheism or _no_ intelligence designer, do so from a relatively superficial viewpoint of nature, good, and evil. Starting from a "there is no God" standpoint only leads down rabbit trails with more questions than answers. Starting from, and delving deeply into _the_ source--the words of the One who tells us "This is who I am and this is how you find me and know me"--makes more sense than trying to rationally prove that the Source never existed in the first place. This Source even tells us that _none of us_ has any excuse for unbelief, as the very world itself proves His existence. In this day and age where _self_ is its own god, may God (the source!) raise up more men and women who, like Lewis, can intelligently argue for Him (Chuck Missler and Michael Heiser being two).
Bypassing some polytheistic language (viz “the Christian god” (x2)), a very good video article. It covers his reluctant sea-change from belief in undesign (atheism) to belief in design (theism), design implying intelligence. However, arguably C S Lewis’ thesis-intelligence in design-supports Intelligent Evolution (Perry Marshall) as easily as Intelligent Design (Bill Dembski), and his writings show him open to biological evolution per se, howbeit not entirely random evolutionism.
Never can wrap my head around why explaining the mechanics of a universe account for its being.
How is something which is descriptive in any way creative?
The basics of intelligent design, in a less formalized way, date back to the Enlightenment (over four hundred years ago). It was what drove men like Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton to learn about the universe that was made by their Creator. So a recognition of God's role was implicit in our science from the very beginning. The purpose of science was to help us understand God, ultimately. Taking a secular approach to science is a much more recent development (70 to 100 years). It's probably no coincidence that the advancements in science have slowed tremendously in the past century as compared to before. Most of our modern advancements are just filling in details left undefined by past greats in the past. Not actual new science.
Follow the argument wherever it leads......
That's a quote from Sargent Friday (Jack Webb version) of Dragnet right? See 1950-70s Dragnet here on YT if too young to understand what that means. Not the Tom Hanks version.
And with only 300,000 views after 7 years - are people not willing to even listen to ideas that challenge the reigning paradigm? If so, why might that be? (Proverbs 1:22, Romans 1:18... 2:14-15, John 3:19-20)
I agree that something cannot be more complicated than the sum of its sources.
I believe in evolution, but what I'm saying is that the big bang combined with the laws of evolution & logic cannot be less complicated than life on earth, because they are the sum of sources of life on earth. If they are the sum of sources of life on earth, then they are a complete definition of life on earth. How can something be more complicated than its definition? That's like saying it's more complicated than itself.
The argument from natural beauty can be explained by the alternative that those of our ancestors who were genetically predisposed to see beauty in nature would have spent more time in it and so be better adapted to whatever dangers could be thrown at them by such an environment. Some evidence that could confirm this theory would be if modern day Hunter gatherers showed an aesthetic preference for a natural environment rather than a man made one. If they show such a preference, it would mean they were so adapted as theorized.
Some people think that desert dunes are beautiful, and yet from a naturalistic point of view, that kind of environment is a death sentence for anything alive to be in.
I so hate long introductions, I feel like saying "JUST GET TO IT."
Lewis's argument from reason is powerful... why should an atheist finding himself in a labyrinth, insist there is or even could be a way out? The atheist rightfully and immediately accepts a hateful fate. But, what but design and a sense of higher benevolence leads us to think, to know, there will be found a better way? There is nothing else out there but God. We have His breath of life, something no science will ever usurp, not by insisted Stupidity, nor by feigned 'higher' intelligences, purported superior to our own. Let the dead bury themselves.
Why do you say hateful? We are born, have a finite existence, and then go back to fertilizer to make way for the next generation. It is selfish to cling, to want an ego to remain in bliss forever.
I love how we can subscribe to a deciesed person on CZcams.
Every idea, Every creation, Every thought is derived from the source. Whether that source is God or something else it is nothing if not an intelligent designer.
anything new?
His statement about the owl coming from an egg, proves the chicken came first. Or in his case, the owl came first. A fully functioning human couple produces a baby.