10 Reasons To Buy A Relic

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
  • Love them or hate them they are popular, and if you can't think of a good reason to get yourself a relic guitar we can give you 10 reasons. So watch this video kick back and we will see you in the comment section!

Komentáře • 552

  • @JonathanGasper
    @JonathanGasper Před 3 lety +20

    I'm personally not into the relic thing, but I am not bothered that others like them. I don't have to get it. I'm not going to shit on other people for liking things. There are plenty of guitars to go around. I enjoyed the video. It's cool to hear different perspectives.

    • @georgedavidson2024
      @georgedavidson2024 Před 3 lety +2

      You get it man, rock on

    • @cleagymeen9465
      @cleagymeen9465 Před 3 lety +7

      You're not in control of what you like and what you don't like it just happens due to random events and circumstances for me i like the feel and the look not necessarily the chips and dings but i like when the finish gets less glossy and darker plus if you ding it won't bother you at all

  • @NolanDerosia
    @NolanDerosia Před 3 lety +11

    I don't necessarily want a relic off the bat, but I do want a guitar that will relic over time.

  • @JasonChannell
    @JasonChannell Před 3 lety +80

    I liked PRS recent interview answer on the matter. Basically "we make new guitars"

    • @teachmeguitar4149
      @teachmeguitar4149 Před 3 lety +2

      👏👏👏

    • @SimpleManGuitars1973
      @SimpleManGuitars1973 Před 3 lety +15

      They should trigger the internet even more by making a reliced Silver Sky. LOL!!!

    • @BasswipeNC
      @BasswipeNC Před 3 lety +12

      The thing about PRS is that they have not been around long enough to play the relic game. They will trust me. They were not going to put Floyd's in them either at one time. Well..........

    • @teachmeguitar4149
      @teachmeguitar4149 Před 3 lety +5

      @@SimpleManGuitars1973 and tell people theyre making 250 of them

    • @autistichead8137
      @autistichead8137 Před 3 lety +8

      Excellent answer!!! I can’t imagine wanting a damaged guitar.

  • @Canadianwheelchairguitar
    @Canadianwheelchairguitar Před 3 lety +28

    If the person that spent the money on it or whoever is playing it likes it, it shouldn't matter to anyone else.

  • @Ninjametal
    @Ninjametal Před 3 lety +9

    I once did a relic job on my Dad's pickup and recieved a whoopin'.

  • @seanbrooks2583
    @seanbrooks2583 Před 3 lety +10

    My parents were into the "rustic furniture look" when i was growing up and i never understood it. Now that i love relic guitars, i finally get it.

  • @softsounds389
    @softsounds389 Před 3 lety +21

    I know old men with guitars they’ve had for 40 years and it’s clean as a whistle, I toured with a guitar for 5 years and it looks like they found it on the ocean floor

    • @shanewalton8888
      @shanewalton8888 Před 3 lety +7

      You need to maybe take better care of your guitars after you play perhaps?

    • @johnnewton1830
      @johnnewton1830 Před 3 lety +3

      I'm one of those old men, lol, though my oldest is only 34 years old.

    • @amberwoodstudio
      @amberwoodstudio Před 3 lety

      Ha ha ha

    • @johnstasio6205
      @johnstasio6205 Před 3 lety +2

      I know you you guys have to sell them ,but you know it’horse shit!

  • @MoHogany1
    @MoHogany1 Před 3 lety +8

    There are only two reasons to buy a guitar, relic or not. It fits your budget and you like it, a lot. Doesn't matter 'why' you like it. If 'you' like it, and it fits 'your' budget, end of story.

  • @SimpleManGuitars1973
    @SimpleManGuitars1973 Před 3 lety +30

    I love vintage Strats. I love vintage Teles. However, to make a guitar "look" like a vintage, beat up Strat, is sorta that same thing as buying "ripped up" jeans that are really expensive.

    • @fernandoacuna5055
      @fernandoacuna5055 Před 3 lety

      Yeah but I mean, this is just making the painting process they did before. It's not like they're beating it up, it's just having the option of having a guitar with an old painting process.

    • @dumbguy9386
      @dumbguy9386 Před 3 lety +2

      They're back in style this year and look just as stupid and pretentious as they did first time around. This is incidentally the reason I don't like reliced guitars.

    • @88bsides
      @88bsides Před 3 lety +2

      I mean they have been artificially aging things for aesthetic reasons since at least the victorian era but okay. Also, unless your jeans come stiff as a board and bleed indigo on everything? Those babies have been relic'd.

    • @Bob-Sacamano314
      @Bob-Sacamano314 Před 3 lety

      Dude.... thank you lol. I thought I was the only person to think that

  • @jaorte10
    @jaorte10 Před 3 lety +18

    Yep, new jean's and shiny guitars for me. Nothing pre-worn.

    • @jambajoby32
      @jambajoby32 Před 3 lety +3

      Lol the “I put holes in my own jeans” guy

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks for letting us know Dad! When's your next blues jam?

    • @IAM_Reedy
      @IAM_Reedy Před 3 lety

      Oh man.. so many one liners here. Ehh to each his own. Enjoy.

  • @royalblue2229
    @royalblue2229 Před 3 lety +7

    I like the idea of a guitar with a finish that wears quick the way old ones did more than a guitar that is already reliced.

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb Před 3 lety

      Gibson spared no inexpense on the matte finish of the 2014 Les Paul Melody Maker. After a year the matte finish has polished spots and is worn through in a couple of places. And it's the player's wear.

    • @royalblue2229
      @royalblue2229 Před 3 lety +1

      @@5000rgb see that’s way cooler to me. I’m building a Warmoth Jazzmaster right now and I wish they had an option for some sort of thin finish that would wear easier.

    • @5000rgb
      @5000rgb Před 3 lety

      @@royalblue2229 Warmoth wants $200++ to paint the body. Get 2 cans of generic spray paint at Home Depot for $2 and have at it! You can get some sand paper and still be under $10.

  • @natashanyxx9486
    @natashanyxx9486 Před 3 lety +6

    I didn’t understand the appeal of aged guitars at first, but they grew on me over time. Now I really appreciate their artistic value. I like brand new pristine guitars, and I like aged ones. It’s just a matter of taste.

    • @romanmgelman
      @romanmgelman Před 8 měsíci +1

      They’re not aged. They’re made to look aged.

  • @stevenpipes1555
    @stevenpipes1555 Před 3 lety +9

    3 points on relics in my opinion: 1. Relic'ing is a great way to finish off a badly mistreated guitar once the mods and repairs are done. 2. The more finish you remove, the more the guitar will vibrate in your hands when you play it. 3. Modern polly finishes will never relic on thier own, not in a hundred years! Relics are beautiful! All guitars are beautiful!

    • @JiminTennessee
      @JiminTennessee Před 3 lety

      You gotta put a chip in a poly l, keep picking at it and then sand it smooth. It will never looks as good as nitro however.

    • @stevenpipes1555
      @stevenpipes1555 Před 3 lety +1

      @@JiminTennessee if you sand the polly until its thin as hell, BUT NOT GONE, then you can relic it quite handily. Ive done a few now and they look great! Nothing beats the real thing of course, but its a great way to get rid of long neglect and mistreament.

  • @Angel-fz8dr
    @Angel-fz8dr Před 3 lety +30

    Did the Murphy lab instruments come with authentic repaired headstock?

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  Před 3 lety +9

      We actually had a video idea prepped on that...like how long until that’s a thing, no joke:)
      Great comment!

    • @Sabres73
      @Sabres73 Před 3 lety +12

      @@CasinoGuitars I’m waiting for the Fender Custom Shop to make copy of a 62 Strat that was routed for a humbucker and a Floyd in 82 and then repaired in 92 with a random block of wood.

    • @mikegreen2417
      @mikegreen2417 Před 3 lety +2

      Best guitar comment of the month. You are now entered into my contest for "Best Guitar Comment of the Year"

    • @suereed
      @suereed Před 3 lety +3

      Sadly it's looking like you might have to leave it to fall off a stand yourself, the question is, would that devalue it, or are we on the limit of irony here?

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  Před 3 lety +1

      @@suereed perfect:)

  • @JoseSalas-wn7im
    @JoseSalas-wn7im Před 3 lety +3

    A relic guitar is like being home in your favorite chair, relaxed and playing away. Everything is just right! J. Frank

  • @craigpetterson3962
    @craigpetterson3962 Před 3 lety +8

    Just got a Roadworn Mischief Maker Strat, it's never out of my hands. It plays so well my next will be a full relic job. I'm with you guys on this one. 👍🏻

    • @kitano0
      @kitano0 Před 3 lety +3

      The Purple metallic?

    • @craigpetterson3962
      @craigpetterson3962 Před 3 lety

      @@kitano0 Yes that's the one.

    • @kitano0
      @kitano0 Před 3 lety +1

      @@craigpetterson3962 Have the same one, I love it...great pups on that thing.

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 Před 3 lety +2

    All non-relic-owners get hung up on appearance. Relic guitars are all about the feel and easy-to-play function, not the appearance. It takes owning a good relic to appreciate the feel and playability. You often sound better because you are willing to dig in and play hard.

  • @kevinhay7073
    @kevinhay7073 Před 3 lety +6

    Never have to worry about bonking my guitar and the checking is beautiful.

    • @stevetool7023
      @stevetool7023 Před 3 lety

      So you pay someone else big bucks to do it for you?

    • @globalnova
      @globalnova Před 3 lety +2

      @@stevetool7023 the name says it all

    • @kevinhay7073
      @kevinhay7073 Před 3 lety +1

      $200 over NOS and it looks great.Yeah,how are you going to wear the finish down so you can see the grain? How are you going to get that beautiful checking?Those paper thin birds on PRSs are $500.Go troll that.

    • @gunkanjima3408
      @gunkanjima3408 Před 3 lety +1

      @@stevetool7023 Yes. You ever see a first time attempt at a relic job? It’s hilariously cringe.

  • @thomas6558
    @thomas6558 Před 3 lety +2

    I think the main reason relic'ed guitars are so popular is because in a way people want their instruments to look/feel like they have a history, and relic'ing allows them to have that without beating up a guitar for 30 years. I played one relic'ed custom shop Telecaster and it felt really amazing, the neck was so comfortable, and it felt like it just molded into me. However, if I ever get a Custom Shop, I'd want to get it NOS because my dream would be to get a perfectly vintage correct guitar and then if it gets "relic'ed" over time, it gets that way on its own.

    • @216trixie
      @216trixie Před 3 lety

      I've been taking care of my guitars for 30 years. None of them are going to look like that.

    • @thomas6558
      @thomas6558 Před 3 lety +1

      @@216trixie That's sort of the point I was trying to make, is that I'd rather get it NOS and let natural wear run it's course, because in my opinon the relics aren't perfect at replicating a truly played in guitar, like the one vintage Strat I've played

  • @rstuartcpa
    @rstuartcpa Před 3 lety +4

    After cringing through most of the video, I found one, and only one, valid reason for a relic, playability. But a new guitar made with the right materials should be at least that good and even get better with time. Will your worn out relic get better with time or has it reach it’s peck of playability and decline into junk? Time will tell, but I’m not betting on a relic to get better. For me, it’s the journey and not the destination. A relic is a destination where you’re been robbed of the journey.

    • @kylemoran4343
      @kylemoran4343 Před 3 lety +1

      Bravo ! Excellent way of putting it !!! I totally agree with your statement. Ya only get so many trips around the sun. Who wants to miss out on the journey of a life time ?

    • @theconvert1208
      @theconvert1208 Před 3 lety +1

      I would go a stitch farther and say it's about the journey. Relic isn't a destination--it's something that might happen, but it isn't the point.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 3 lety

      How much time to think it will take to tell?
      Fender has been making Relics for over 25 years now (and the Mexican Road Worn for over 10). It seems to me that if they were getting worse over time Fender would be making fewer of them, but they are doing the opposite.

    • @rstuartcpa
      @rstuartcpa Před 3 lety

      @@charlesbolton8471 time is relative, agreed? My 2004 anniversary strat is just starting to show organic age. It seems to be getting better and better, guess I don’t need to worry about a relic because I’m working on my own. But every ding, scratch, crack is mine. I can’t imagine any other way.

    • @theconvert1208
      @theconvert1208 Před 3 lety

      @Charles Bolton If you take Fender and Squier together, do you really think that more than 5% are relics?

  • @hpugrad2001
    @hpugrad2001 Před 3 lety +4

    I would prefer to give it soul playing and wearing it in my self.

    • @Megarobotsquadron
      @Megarobotsquadron Před 3 lety

      What if you bought a used guitar that was already aged?

    • @hpugrad2001
      @hpugrad2001 Před 3 lety

      @@Megarobotsquadron no a fan of used guitars. Used amps yes and I don’t care what they look like. So I know I have a double standard.

    • @Megarobotsquadron
      @Megarobotsquadron Před 3 lety

      @@hpugrad2001 I think I would only buy used guitars at this point. That whole "1st scratch" thing bothers me hugely. So I appreciate it when it comes already worn a bit

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 Před 3 lety +4

    I think I’d buy a old guitar that has wear vs. buying a new relic’d guitar.

  • @JustPlayingBass
    @JustPlayingBass Před 3 lety +2

    Totally agree with #5 and #6. I have a bass from the 80s that is worth a good chunk of money. Its basically still pristine, but as it got older and more valuable, I found myself not playing it as hard as normal (not damaging it). I bought a fender Mendel pbass which has a light relic. I can now relax and smack the s..t out of it and not worry about damage. Great show as always chaps.

  • @BasswipeNC
    @BasswipeNC Před 3 lety +2

    It’s something that grows on you. When I first saw them it was a little confusing to me because I was new to guitars and pristine guitars is what you originally like. But as time went on I realized this is a way to show what a real (and unaffordable to most of us) guitar from the 50s and 60s would look like if played a lot. It becomes very cool. And………….you can own one!!!!! I will have one day and I’m pretty sure I’m going to love it. And in the end that’s all that matters.

    • @rstuartcpa
      @rstuartcpa Před 3 lety

      Just ‘cause you can doesn’t mean you should.

    • @BasswipeNC
      @BasswipeNC Před 3 lety

      @@rstuartcpa That's what's great about America, you have options. :)

  • @lance134679
    @lance134679 Před 3 lety +3

    #11 - When you're too old to relic your guitar by playing and gigging with it for 30 years. If you're young, maybe you want to put those miles on it yourself. I have a '79 LP that looked new when I bought it in '86, but it rode under a bus in the winter and now the finish looks like a road map. I put every scratch and dent in it, and the finish is chipped and yellowed from age and probably cigarette smoke. Still, I think if someone is happy with their new relic guitar, let them be happy. I think those new Road Worn Vintera Tele's look pretty neat.

  • @rstuartcpa
    @rstuartcpa Před 3 lety +7

    BTW, I’m an accountant and we have these guys called auditors who constantly look over my work and tell me what I’m doing wrong...so, Baxter that was a bad example.

  • @mars-lpv3458
    @mars-lpv3458 Před 3 lety +22

    I got a plate of cold stale food at a restaurant. . The waiter said "shut up, its reliced"

    • @ScatZacc
      @ScatZacc Před 3 lety +1

      Not even close to being a decent comparison 😕but ok 👌🙄lol

    • @mars-lpv3458
      @mars-lpv3458 Před 3 lety

      @@ScatZacc
      😆

    • @216trixie
      @216trixie Před 3 lety +1

      @@ScatZacc Close enough for me.

    • @ScatZacc
      @ScatZacc Před 3 lety +1

      @@216trixie that's a great 👍and fantastic opinion

    • @mikecraig8442
      @mikecraig8442 Před 3 lety +1

      LOL

  • @jimb2577
    @jimb2577 Před 3 lety +12

    I wish we could get nitro finished instruments at reasonable prices and play the crude out of them to make our own relics.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 3 lety

      Fender has done some Special Runs in Mexico that are not Road Worns, but it has been awhile. Hopefully, they’ll do it again for everyone who isn’t into Road Worn models.
      I don’t know what you specifically consider to be a “reasonable price”, but Gibson has several models that are less expensive than Fender’s least expensive non worn nitro finished guitars.

  • @BockwinkleB
    @BockwinkleB Před 3 lety +15

    Pro Relic-ers are quickly becoming the vegans of the guitar community.
    So quick to tell you how awesome thier choices are and why you should think the way they do.

    • @TJjjjjjjjjjj
      @TJjjjjjjjjjj Před 3 lety +3

      Except it’s normally people against them who feel the need to tell everyone?

    • @BockwinkleB
      @BockwinkleB Před 3 lety +1

      @@TJjjjjjjjjjj 1) It's a joke
      2) The video is called 10 reasons to buy a relic, not 10 reasons relics are dumb
      Although I fully expect them to do the latter, maybe tomorrow.

    • @friedrudibega6384
      @friedrudibega6384 Před 3 lety

      @@TJjjjjjjjjjj c'mon, man!!!

    • @TJjjjjjjjjjj
      @TJjjjjjjjjjj Před 3 lety +2

      Was just an observation as I’ve never seen and argument the other way around. It’s usually someone against relics calling people dumb for buying an already scratched up guitar ?

    • @joebryant8500
      @joebryant8500 Před 3 lety +2

      And what about the people who are so vociferous in telling everyone they don't like them, as if no-one else should like them let alone buy them?

  • @emptypromises2962
    @emptypromises2962 Před 3 lety +2

    I haven't ever liked the relics and I think I wouldn't ever get one for myself. But I'm sure they're superb instruments and I sure appreciate the fact that you guys and so many others love them.

  • @1968joseph1
    @1968joseph1 Před 3 lety +2

    Someone needs to invent the breakaway headstock.

  • @mikebostic5713
    @mikebostic5713 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a FCS journeyman relic. I love it. It feels and plays as great as my old Strat. I have new style guitars and love them, but older just feels better.

  • @basslife0758
    @basslife0758 Před 2 lety

    Relic is like an abstract painting there’s beauty in it.

  • @shawnpage1605
    @shawnpage1605 Před 3 lety +1

    I have a Nash hardtail Strat - humbucker in the bridge. Feels great, smells great.

  • @dane969
    @dane969 Před 3 lety +1

    When I see my road worn Strat hanging on the wall, it inspires me to leave it hanging there and admire it while I pick up and play my Strandberg.

  • @peterrebhahn1113
    @peterrebhahn1113 Před 3 lety +4

    For me, the difficulty with new relics, as opposed to actual relics that wear their scars honorably because they came about from years of use, is the issue of authenticity. Yes, I know a certain guitar company has given the word ‘authentic’ a bad flavor but this isn’t about them or that kind of authenticity. Relicked guitars carry a whiff, or maybe more than just a whiff, of the inauthentic about them. Thus, their popularity in a pursuit that is ostensibly about authentic self-expression seems a bit odd. But, as my late father used to say, “Pete, it takes all kinds to make a world and we got ‘em.”

  • @denembro
    @denembro Před rokem +2

    If relic guitars weren’t selling, they would stop making them, so there must be a big market for relic guitars. I own one, and it’s my favorite of all my other non relic guitars.

  • @joebryant8500
    @joebryant8500 Před 3 lety +1

    It's amazing how many fewer people have a problem with relic guitars since Gibson started doing them. That tells you what you need to know.
    Looking forward to what Cruz is going to deliver. He may get my next purchase.

  • @yankeepeters2270
    @yankeepeters2270 Před 3 lety +14

    I love ‘em. The only problem is, they’re a hard sell to a spouse that doesn’t understand the relic “ thing”.
    It’s like “ Why is it three times more than those shiny ones over there, that aren’t fucked up?”
    The struggle continues..

    • @friedrudibega6384
      @friedrudibega6384 Před 3 lety +2

      I'd just not take her guitar shopping. What she doesn't know or understand won't hurt her. She'll hurt you if she finds out, though.

    • @Kevngodfrey
      @Kevngodfrey Před 3 lety +1

      No truer statement has been spoken! Lol

    • @rstuartcpa
      @rstuartcpa Před 3 lety +2

      You know how your spouse asks you “are you ever tired of being wrong?” Well, this is one of those times.

    • @lsilvaj
      @lsilvaj Před 3 lety +4

      your spouse is way smarter than you.

    • @jvin248
      @jvin248 Před 3 lety +5

      Pull up architecture and home design magazine pictures of 'distressed' or 'French provincial' furniture and she'll get it.

  • @kylemoran4343
    @kylemoran4343 Před 3 lety +2

    The funny thing to me is, if you look at most of the "Big Time Pros" (Eric Clapton, James Burton, Jeff Beck, George Harrison RIP, Mark Knopfler, Chet Atkins RIP, etc.) they're guitars are/were always pristine and like new. No dirty finger prints down the board, no scratches or paint missing. But, everybody likes what they like, and I'm good with that. RIP Eddie, Stevie, & Rory Cheers !

    • @jassieblue
      @jassieblue Před 3 lety

      Conclusion = old people like new looking guitars 😜
      The younger guitar heroes like John mayer are not afraid of relic guitars 😁

  • @Danielrunion
    @Danielrunion Před 3 lety +2

    You can get a non - relic Novo. There just isn’t a ton of demand for them. But they absolutely do sell them if the customer doesn’t want a relic.

    • @johnnewton1830
      @johnnewton1830 Před 3 lety

      Nice, I have actually been wondering that. Thanks.

    • @johnnewton1830
      @johnnewton1830 Před 3 lety

      @@TJjjjjjjjjjj Well now I'm confused. One of you says they do and one says they don't. I LIKE seeing the grain through the finish and would be cool to feel the grain I just don't want them to then additionally ding it up and put big wear marks on it. Could just be that Novo is not for me. I have looked at his Revolta line. Different level of instrument but still had the cool vibe and come "new".

    • @CasinoGuitars
      @CasinoGuitars  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for that info Dan! Thanks for correcting us We dig Novo

    • @Danielrunion
      @Danielrunion Před 3 lety

      @@CasinoGuitars Yea man. You need one. I own 3 and can't wait to buy another. They will do a non-relic, but like someone earlier mentioned it kind of defeats the purpose of what they do. Almost. The finish is still extremely thin which gives them an awesome feel.

    • @Danielrunion
      @Danielrunion Před 3 lety +1

      @@johnnewton1830 They will do that. The finish will be thin and you will be able to see and feel the grain, but they won't relic it if you don't want them to. I've seen a number of them go out like that.

  • @dancompton1728
    @dancompton1728 Před 3 lety +3

    I like the Journeyman relics. It's kind of a happy medium for me.

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ Před 3 lety +1

      I'd take one over any of those poly finished guitars that feel like there's a 1" thick layer of plastic separating you from the guitar.

    • @RedLion88
      @RedLion88 Před 2 lety

      Yep. I have one. Check out the Nash Light relics as well. Great instruments and 1/2 of the price.

  • @tonywhetham8165
    @tonywhetham8165 Před 3 lety +2

    Of all relic stuff, finish checking is, by far, the most attractive to me. I'm picky about who I let play my guitars. If I had a relic guitar I wouldn't be that way. I'd be a better person.

    • @theconvert1208
      @theconvert1208 Před 3 lety

      Like anyone, you could choose to be a better person now, anyways. Just saying’.

    • @tonywhetham8165
      @tonywhetham8165 Před 3 lety

      @@theconvert1208 My comment is made in jest. Jest sayin’.

  • @davegallagher7428
    @davegallagher7428 Před 3 lety

    I don’t think people who buy them are posers. The issue for me is that there’s no place around me that I can try one. I would probably have to drive five or so hours. I almost pulled the trigger on one over the weekend but while I was thinking about it somebody bought it “ No relic for you” I do have a relic ready custom shop Tele and when I accidentally dragged my footstool into it, twice, I didn’t freak out because the idea of the guitar is that it’s supposed to relic faster than a normal guitar. That is a huge plus for me because I’m like you Baxter everything else is staying in its case and I don’t want to put the first ding in it.
    Great video guys!

  • @shanebargy1732
    @shanebargy1732 Před 3 lety +1

    For those of us who don't own a guitar made in the 60's, don't have 20 hours a day to play a new one to give it the "natural" relic look and those of us who aren't able to afford a 1962 Strat, a relic guitar is a GREAT option. Why can't everyone have the option play a guitar that feels broken in (with modern accompaniments) and looks really awesome at the same time? Anyone purest who says, "Just get a new guitar and play the hell out of it if you want a relic look" is missing the boat on why it's so awesome for common folk like me!

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 3 lety +1

      I completely agree with you. In my opinion, most of the people who are opposed to them are looking at them in the wrong way. They see a Custom Shop Relic and think why would I pay extra for the beat up looking one when the shiny, perfect looking one is hundreds of dollars less expensive. What they actually SHOULD be thinking when they see that Custom Shop Relic is I’m getting this cool Custom Shop guitar for 75% less than the price of the vintage guitar it’s based on. After all, Fender created the Custom Shop Relics because Fender wasn’t making any money in the vintage guitar market.

  • @JackRoadkill
    @JackRoadkill Před 3 lety +1

    I hated relics until I played one. You can argue about the look until the cows come home but there's no denying they feel and play much more nicely than non-relics.

  • @bobbystrunk87
    @bobbystrunk87 Před 3 lety +3

    Personally I like a “light” relic guitar myself...where the finish is worn some and maybe a couple dings and scratches here and there. In other words “a good condition player grade “ type relic. Never was a huge fan of deep and heavy relics

  • @laj043
    @laj043 Před 3 lety

    I never cared to own a relic guitar, but was always drawn to the look of a real war wounded work horse guitar (ex; "Blackie and Brownie"). I have my "be careful" while playing Les Paul, PRS Custom 24, and Martin D35 in which you pull your shirt out pre-playing to cover belt buckles, be extra careful picking it up and setting it down, polish and clean after use, etc. I recently assembled a relic Tele using a MJT body, well used neck and hardware. It is my go to unplugged play while watching TV guitar and I don't have to worry about shirt buttons, scratches, etc. It is a pleasure to just grab it and play and then set back in its stand.

  • @cautiousoptimist1926
    @cautiousoptimist1926 Před 3 lety +2

    There is wear that comes from having been loved and played well, and wear that comes from having been abused and neglected. The relics almost always look like the latter to me.

  • @javierservigon
    @javierservigon Před 3 lety +1

    To me relics are like driving a rental car, you can beat the crap out of it with no consequence.

  • @itstravisjames512
    @itstravisjames512 Před 3 lety

    You nailed it. Especially the “art/finance” tangent. Lol.

  • @alexholdenii4946
    @alexholdenii4946 Před rokem

    I love my 56’ custom shop heavy relic that I got from you guys. It’s amazing. 💯🔥

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 Před 2 lety +1

    Mark Knopfler's red 1961 strat is still in pristine condition, even though he obviously played the crap out of it over the years. When you love and respect your instrument, you take good care of it. If you want to sand your neck, or smooth it out in some other way, go for it - that is not the same as "relic" work imho - it's making the guitar more playable. All the other relic stuff is just for looks. It's like getting a minty new car, and beating it up all over, just so you don't have to worry about that first scratch...............?

  • @BizarrePudding
    @BizarrePudding Před 3 lety +1

    Ah, you young turks!...So charmingly naive and innocent, blissfully unaware of how short this ride called life really is!...You see boys, at my age the one and only reason to buy an artificially relic-ed guitar is that you know you won't be around long enough for a new one to naturally relic itself!...Cool vid gents...And here's to a long life and much laughter (and playing)...Cheers!

  • @yestoES355
    @yestoES355 Před 3 lety +1

    I was STRONGLY in the anti relic side until I played a custom shop 62 journey man relic. I Left the store with the guitar and it’s the best tele I’ve played so far. Also I’m 20 so I think most people within my age don’t “get it” until they play one.

    • @minorcek
      @minorcek Před rokem

      The thing is, I'm not sure many 20 year Olds have been playing long enough to get it....then again, I didn't even seriously get into gear until after I'd played 18 years at age 28
      Just takes time, practice and a special relationship personal relationship with guitar itself to fully appreciate it

  • @ThatBrendonGuy
    @ThatBrendonGuy Před 3 lety +3

    Some of my guitars are covered in dings and scratches and wear and tear, but all of it is because of me using it, and none of it was on purpose. I like it, because those are what make it my guitar and nobody else's, but I just can't get behind the idea of somebody else doing it and on purpose. But that's me...

    • @danielroth4497
      @danielroth4497 Před 3 lety

      If you buy a used guitar with dings snd scratches you won’t know whether they were intentional or not. And either way, you won’t be the one who put the wear on it. So isn’t it really just a matter of mindset?

    • @ThatBrendonGuy
      @ThatBrendonGuy Před 3 lety

      @@danielroth4497 I don't buy used gear unless it's in pretty good condition. A little ding or scratch or two isn't necessarily a deal breaker if someone wants to offload something that ultimately wasn't right for them, I'd be open to giving it a new home, but I don't want anybody's leftovers after it's been played to hell, and I definitely don't want anything that's been made to look like it's been played to hell but hasn't. Of course, that would change if it was something that belonged to somebody famous that I respect, but I wouldnt be buying it for it to be mine, I'd be buying it to be who's it was. But again, that's me.

  • @JustinTabor24
    @JustinTabor24 Před 3 lety +3

    Loving the new murphy aged guitar line up!

  • @seanbrooks2583
    @seanbrooks2583 Před 3 lety +1

    I always sell my relics as "mint". makes me chuckle.

  • @VikCain
    @VikCain Před 3 lety +17

    I remember when I was a dumb teen I thought I was cooler than the popular kids because my jeans were falling apart naturally instead of coming like that from the factory. I was never cool.

    • @friedrudibega6384
      @friedrudibega6384 Před 3 lety +1

      You're cool.

    • @VikCain
      @VikCain Před 3 lety +1

      @John Eric thanks, that's nice, but I know for a fact that they are standard middle class 40 something like myself.

    • @VikCain
      @VikCain Před 3 lety +1

      @@friedrudibega6384 thank you very much, everyone is so nice in here.

    • @cardbored_
      @cardbored_ Před 3 lety

      Oh hey look another person on the internet with the stupid jean analogy.

    • @VikCain
      @VikCain Před 3 lety +3

      @@cardbored_ if it works it works. Do you have a more insightful and original analogy? I would love read it. Is it cars?

  • @solan417
    @solan417 Před 3 lety +1

    For me I lean towards fender relics for a few reasons all the normal stuff has a C shape neck and I like chucky necks which tend to come with relics. The first nice guitar I ever held was a Peavey EVH wolfgang that was personally given to my cousin by Eddie and the neck was unfinished and felt amazing and I've taken the finish off all my guitars (except my martin). So relics are the way to go for me.

  • @Goodiebar18
    @Goodiebar18 Před 3 lety +1

    What if you like both? I have a PRS Artist package in blue fade unbelievable looking thing never want to play it....that being said I still like to play guitar so that’s why I have a few relic Fender CS and a couple VOS Gibson CS guitars lying around that way I can be lazy and never clean them and at the same time beat the shit out of them and they’re still mint , I think both serve a purpose

  • @pieve5516
    @pieve5516 Před 2 měsíci

    Love relics. Avoids getting pissed when you inevitably ding your perfect guitar.

  • @tommyhtz9051
    @tommyhtz9051 Před 3 lety

    I have a Gibson SG 3 in "Worn White" from I believe 2007. The finish is literally a very thin coat of latex paint that's lightly worn on the edges and translucent to the wood grain. Through hours of playing and loving abuse over the years, I believe this finish has allowed this guitar to naturally relic itself at an accelerated rate. I love it! And yes. I think the finish has a lot (more than you'ed think) to do with the tone. I believe it makes it a bit smoother and warmer. Mick Ronson had the finish of his LP sanded to bare wood as he believed it increased his sustain.

  • @JeffSealePhD
    @JeffSealePhD Před 3 lety +2

    Once i realized I could get a Dakota Red over Black finish in heavy relic, I came around. :)

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 3 lety

      I would love to have a hardtail Strat in Black Sparkle over Inca Silver medium relic with gold hardware and a gold anodized pick guard.

  • @attichatchsound-bobkowal5328

    A lot of noble rationalization here, lol! There isn't a "logical" reason to prefer something beat up, but then there does NOT have to be.
    I think there is a similar mentality that finds appeal with relic'd musical equipment as there is with "distressed" furniture "pre-worn" jeans, and "Rat-Rods".
    Maybe its a subconscious response to a digitally polished world where we our senses are almost constantly bombarded with digitally processed/perfected stimuli.
    Maybe its a subconscious mix of instinct, nostalgia and yearning for a sense of authenticity.
    Of course there IS some irony in fabricating authenticity!
    Now finding techniques to treat material to simulate the sonic benefits of long-lived material is another matter.
    That can be more science than art

  • @Paul_Lenard_Ewing
    @Paul_Lenard_Ewing Před 3 lety +10

    I am 74 been there got ALL the t-shirts. They are a fashion statement. They will be uncool to the extreme. It is a sure bet. It is not 'IF" but 'WHEN'.

    • @jimleininger8963
      @jimleininger8963 Před 3 lety

      As is true of everything

    • @stephman02
      @stephman02 Před 3 lety +1

      So just refinish those 50s and 60s Gibsons and starts u think...

  • @trickfall8752
    @trickfall8752 Před 3 lety +1

    While I wouldn't mind getting a relic at all I really wish there were more guitars with nitro finishes I could relic myself. I've got two Fenders from the 90's and while they're hardly pristine the poly finishes just don't wear the same.

  • @gtarman8d
    @gtarman8d Před 2 měsíci

    Honestly, dinging a brand new 6k guitar trying to put it onto a wall hanger would crush me. If it were already beat up a bit I wouldn’t have to feel as bad 😂

  • @BoyitoEnnui
    @BoyitoEnnui Před 3 lety +3

    Neck pocket cracks look cooler on reliced guitars.

  • @danielcavazos5009
    @danielcavazos5009 Před 2 lety

    Just purchased a Vintage Brand Thomas Blug relic Stratocaster and I love it, sounds great and plays great. The only guitar in my collection that is new relic and I think it just converted me to a relic guitar guy. Love what you play, collect what you love.

  • @brushstroke3733
    @brushstroke3733 Před 3 lety

    My old co-worker used to buy $600 "destroyed" jeans. I always thought it impractical to pay that much for something worn out when you could get something brand new to wear in yourself for 1/10 the cost. But to each their own - variety is necessary.

  • @edfuller9111
    @edfuller9111 Před 3 lety

    I have a custom Pelham blue paint job on my Lamborghini. I took a razor blade to it. The checking is awesome. Next I’m going to pour sulfuric acid on the hood.

  • @romanoforsale
    @romanoforsale Před 3 lety +1

    Relics look cool, but I think I would still like a nice new shiny guitar. It's like you guys said, it's a matter of taste and preference.

  • @mars-lpv3458
    @mars-lpv3458 Před 3 lety +16

    A reliced guitar is like a 22 year old dying his hair gray.

    • @georgedavidson2024
      @georgedavidson2024 Před 3 lety +5

      You are correct, because if a 22 year old wants to dye his hair grey... he’s perfectly entitled to do that if it makes him happy.

    • @mars-lpv3458
      @mars-lpv3458 Před 3 lety +5

      @@georgedavidson2024
      Yes, people are free to do stupid things.
      I'm only half kidding around here bud. . just fun n games.

    • @dumbguy9386
      @dumbguy9386 Před 3 lety +3

      @@georgedavidson2024 Touch of Gray ca. 1983 for the yuppie wanting that touch of gravitas.

    • @georgedavidson2024
      @georgedavidson2024 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mars-lpv3458 gotcha man, a bit of banter is always good haha

    • @mars-lpv3458
      @mars-lpv3458 Před 3 lety +1

      @@georgedavidson2024
      Yup yup. . Truth is, if someone handed me a reliced guitar I would play it and probly have a great time.

  • @darenanderson1960
    @darenanderson1960 Před rokem

    I don’t care for relic guitars, but I can appreciate why some people do. And some of the points in this video seem like good reasons (I hate it , but is true that since it is already covered in dings and scratches, you can play with less caution and worry). The idea that they play better than a non-relic guitars seems ridiculous.

  • @omfgitsjordan
    @omfgitsjordan Před 3 lety +1

    If you bought a nitro guitar ~20 years ago and played it daily until the finish wore down that would be cool as hell. To buy one that looks like that, but it was done over a week with a sander... I don't know seems way less cool. I want a guitar relic'ed by my own two hands, not some power tools.

  • @timothybedwards5440
    @timothybedwards5440 Před 3 lety

    I did wear in my new 1970 pbass. I do like relics

  • @2000SkyView
    @2000SkyView Před 2 lety

    I drove into a car dealer the other day with my 25 year old vehicle and I asked, "If I buy one of these nice 2021 models can you make it look like my 25 year old car? I'll pay extra!" Talk about a confused look on the sales persons face 😃 about the same as when I look new over priced relic custom shop guitars. I guess I never understood the over priced new torn blue jeans either.

  • @jezzer1969
    @jezzer1969 Před 3 lety +1

    Hmmm. It’s in the companies interests for them to be best selling as they can charge more for them than NOS. So the shops are full of them. I’m waiting delivery of a Custom built T type in Nitro Finish. I accept it will ding up over time. I don’t mind the Journeyman style ones with the aged patina. But some of the really beaten up ones look comical. If you play them, they take on wear and tear. Simple.

  • @danielroth4497
    @danielroth4497 Před 3 lety

    I never cared for the relic idea, and the early fender Nocaster relics were awful. But I recently bought a Fender Masterbuilt heavy relic Telecaster and absolutely love it. I’ll let it be my guilty pleasure.

  • @kombik7189
    @kombik7189 Před 3 lety

    Maybe someone else has already said this, but maybe you want the feel, look and sound of a beat-to-hell vintage guitar but not all the maintenance issues. While losing your fave relic through theft or damage is distressing, losing a 50s, 60s or even 70s guitar in the same situation is terrifying.

  • @erichutchinson5150
    @erichutchinson5150 Před 3 lety

    I like the reliced guitars better and i own quite a few of them. Nice thing is they are better playing and sounding guitars and you dont worry if you get a ding in them. Its all good!

  • @ryangunwitch-black
    @ryangunwitch-black Před 2 lety

    I love my 60s RW Strat and I take every chance I get to say it. It's definitely a step above most MIM Strats and I guarantee it sounds better than one with a poly finish. I will never buy a Stratocaster without Nitro finish.

  • @frankenstein4106
    @frankenstein4106 Před 3 lety

    I bought used Eastman SB55/v and SB59/v guitars, both are relic'd. The main reason I bought them is they came with Lollar pickups and either Faber or Gotoh hardware, and they both have fat, chunky necks. And the look, playability, and sound is fantastic!!

  • @sizzlemann
    @sizzlemann Před 3 lety

    I love relics for gigging! Don't have to worry about damage if I bump into another player on those tight stages. It adds to the value and customization. And you're right, you want to play it more because you're not worried about dinging it up. But some relics are $$$. So now I just buy used guitars on the cheap. Works just as well.

  • @DadRockAndGuitars
    @DadRockAndGuitars Před 3 lety

    Really enjoy your videos and the relaxed (if not sometimes ADD) conversations. 👍 There are a lot of relics that look very cool and some that I'd love to have, but they are all out of my budget. So for now, I'm perfectly happy with my personally very slightly reliced new-ish looking not very expensive guitars. 😁

  • @OrbitlynX
    @OrbitlynX Před 3 lety +1

    I see here some analogies with relic/non-relic proponents and vegan/non vegan. I do not agree. You cannot be vegan and non vegan at the same time but you can own multiple guitars and love them for different reasons. It is hard to find perfect guitar but it is rather easy to love guitars for some reasons. I have relic strats, nitro-non relic strats, teles, gretsch, some lp inspired guitars ranging from something little over 100euros to 2000euros and everything when I grab different guitar it gives me feeling of happiness because it reminds me why I am owning this specific guitar and what makes it great. For me biggest advantages of relic is the wooden feel of a neck and also not worrying that I will ding it.

  • @gregrandallbtsr03
    @gregrandallbtsr03 Před 3 lety

    I enjoy all guitars. I enjoy lots of different music. Just be happy with what you like. BTW, is there a small mountain near So. Pines that Jonathan could sit on the top of and we could come to him as the all knowing guitar guru? Just an idea.

  • @scottkidwell3601
    @scottkidwell3601 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm waiting for a relic'd Silver Sky...
    😜🤣😂

  • @HSet77
    @HSet77 Před 3 lety +1

    I do like nitrocellulose lacquer guitars..... As for relic: I do like that each guitar looks different - so yeah #2 & #3 agreed, but #4 Play-ability does not have to be relic ( you can roll edges and carve neck without the aging and scratches) - #5 -nah, #7 pixie dust, #8 resale value higher - interesting, You guys would know, obviously - #9 true they are arty - if the relic esthetic appeals, #10 Am I being mean? However - Maybe, ... Maybe I could go for one of those light relic closet classics. I'll need to rob a bitcoin depot - where are they located?

  • @vishyoutubevideos
    @vishyoutubevideos Před 3 lety +1

    I used to hate on relics until I got one (not an expensive one). Now my dream is a relic Fender Strat or Tele in aged sonic blue.

  • @gorlagOv
    @gorlagOv Před 3 lety

    I have had my Fender American Original since November and the finish on the neck is already almost off from just playing it, it’s great. They don’t need to do anything to it.

    • @jassieblue
      @jassieblue Před 3 lety

      I doubt that.

    • @gorlagOv
      @gorlagOv Před 3 lety +1

      @@jassieblue playing everyday 30 min to an hour everyday, sometimes more. It use to be sticky when, I got it, now it’s very smooth in playing positions, In a year my bet is, spots will be gone. It’s a very thin lacquer finish. My hand is rough. The board has much more lacquer coated than the back of the neck. They are great guitars.

  • @paulstaffordcook8799
    @paulstaffordcook8799 Před 3 lety

    Great vid as usual guys. Working through your back catalogue. Very entertained 👍

  • @benlogan430
    @benlogan430 Před rokem

    I enjoy relics! I call em used guitars and the blemished ones are cheaper by a lot. My Fender standard tele took a digger and the person who owned it sold it. I’m assuming because it was now chipped and dented or relict? If the neck and frets are fine I don’t mind a bit nakered finish or some body dings.

  • @bambikiller338
    @bambikiller338 Před 3 lety

    Hey can yall do a video about the guitars in the background and why they are hanging there? Which ones have payed the bills and which are just decorations.
    Thanks

  • @cdnnielsen5964
    @cdnnielsen5964 Před 3 lety

    I was sure about them until I owned a couple, but well done relics are very cool, they are works of art and feel great in your hands.

  • @vadeking
    @vadeking Před 3 lety +4

    REASON #11: Relic guitars help you quickly identify the most insufferable people in the room or forum so you can start ignoring them right away!

    • @happyads9439
      @happyads9439 Před 3 lety +2

      Because you mention forums,, it's clear to me your hardwork😂😂

  • @erickmo1188
    @erickmo1188 Před 3 lety

    (In my opinion) Relics are awesome because of the broken in feel and the fact that they allow the player to really dig in and worry about the music, not whether they might ding their precious guitar. I have never thought of having a relic and being a guy that passes it off as a 50 or 60 year old road warrior. Instead I like that I can play my heart out on the thing and not kill the mood when a button or zipper from my jacket tearing some finish off.

  • @bryantwalley
    @bryantwalley Před 3 lety +13

    You can get some really nice relic shoes from Goodwill. Just saying...

  • @WalkenDead
    @WalkenDead Před 3 lety

    I'm of 2 minds on this one. I typically by used guitars, and if it's something I like I don't really mind if it's beat up a bit. To me it shows that it was a guitar that somebody just loved and played the crap out of. It also means that there was a reason somebody used this thing so much, probably a pretty good playing guitar. With a new guitar however, I kinda want it to look new, I want to be the one to play those memories, so to speak, into the guitar. Just my opinion, I don't judge either way. If we all liked the same thing life would be very boring