Why don't we see Hyper Sonic anymore?

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  • @wolf31191
    @wolf31191 Před rokem +8111

    TBH it would be great to have this form back. All it takes is good writing.

    • @subsribetosilentsnowmando
      @subsribetosilentsnowmando Před rokem +13

      I think it would remove the speciality of super sonic but ok then.

    • @bottomtext593
      @bottomtext593 Před rokem +578

      Thats why Frontiers was a huge missed opportunity for Hyper Sonic. They could have easily linked the whole "another dimension" excuse to Cyberspace and brought back the Super Emeralds that way

    • @mvnkycheez
      @mvnkycheez Před rokem +182

      actually i think the main reason is probably more to do with the fact that super sonic is _already_ kinda ripping off DBZ enough, but having _another_ power up like hyper sonic risks sonic writing falling into that trap of endless power creep like DBZ and other shounen stuff

    • @Drsachocho
      @Drsachocho Před rokem +223

      ​@@mvnkycheez hyper came in 1994 and Ultra instinct came in 2015

    • @Drsachocho
      @Drsachocho Před rokem +53

      ​@@mvnkycheez so That's a bit uhh

  • @VongolaXZax
    @VongolaXZax Před rokem +6013

    Sonic fans: Excuses, excuses

    • @JoshAndDollyz
      @JoshAndDollyz Před rokem +105

      Trueeee

    • @Theanimatedpikmin
      @Theanimatedpikmin Před rokem +62

      Yes

    • @sigma8917
      @sigma8917 Před rokem +254

      yeah...the super emeralds literally cannnot be "locked in another dimention"...they are just boosted chaos emeralds...it would mean that the chaos emeralds are inaccessibile as well which makes no sense

    • @SMG6-
      @SMG6- Před rokem +23

      As a sonic fan its not an excuse

    • @psiundertale9193
      @psiundertale9193 Před rokem +18

      So true!

  • @Allplussomeminus
    @Allplussomeminus Před 3 měsíci +1485

    That fact we can't have him again (canonically) makes him even more elusive and legendary.

  • @superoof-ck1cb
    @superoof-ck1cb Před 3 měsíci +276

    “The Super Emeralds reside in another dimension.” Oh Blaaaaaze!

    • @catmom8242
      @catmom8242 Před měsícem +12

      why is this comment not popular lol

    • @KaiydenDennis
      @KaiydenDennis Před 14 dny +2

      Hilarious😂

    • @RamenBlox
      @RamenBlox Před 13 dny +6

      Bro Izuka/Sonic Team act like they can't just write a story to have Sonic get the Super Emeralds 😭😭

    • @official_nathanyt1490
      @official_nathanyt1490 Před 7 dny

      They can make a game called sonic dimensions

    • @Leekodot15
      @Leekodot15 Před 4 dny

      Oh Saaaaage!

  • @sekunriruisen506
    @sekunriruisen506 Před rokem +2228

    "This is my normal form. This is Super Sonic. And this... is to go even further beyond!"

    • @kiryugaming904
      @kiryugaming904 Před rokem +192

      *Screams for 5 minutes*

    • @artisthi151
      @artisthi151 Před rokem +78

      ​@@kiryugaming904 tails ear drums rip 😢

    • @Jay30Boogie
      @Jay30Boogie Před rokem +25

      You beautiful bastard 😂🤣

    • @Pistola
      @Pistola Před rokem +30

      Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @rueme4228
      @rueme4228 Před rokem +14

      @@Pistola that’s not nearly long enough…

  • @BKLYN48
    @BKLYN48 Před rokem +1355

    I want a game where Super Sonic isn’t enough.

    • @colmecolwag
      @colmecolwag Před rokem +110

      How could you ever make Super Sonic seem tough after that? It makes Super Sonic seem like Sonic with the kid gloves on holding back then.

    • @jacknite625
      @jacknite625 Před rokem +139

      @@colmecolwag mabey something multiverse threatening. in my opinion that makes sonic frontiers seem so good was that super sonic wasnt a automatic win. as a matter of fact i think it made him weaker revery time he used it. its good to see sonic seem so volnerable for the 1st time in any sonic game. the only bad thing about the game was that super sonic was still there for the final boss instead of hyper sonic or a new form. that game should have had hyper sonic in the game mainly do to the fact that it was basicly made for it. in my eyes atleast

    • @tommyspaghet6877
      @tommyspaghet6877 Před rokem +88

      Since Super Sonic is mostly positive chaos energy, maybe they can either make a new/existing villain that could actually utilize their smarts and channel the other negative end of chaos energy, effectively canceling each other out and maybe weaken Sonic's Super form over time, or give the Phantom Ruby again to an ACTUALLY capable and threatening villain in the games, which I felt like Infinite had wasted potential since Phantom Ruby is more powerful than the Chaos Emeralds.

    • @derpface1279
      @derpface1279 Před rokem +60

      @@tommyspaghet6877 so you want Nazo to be canon? Because I agree

    • @blannis177
      @blannis177 Před rokem +19

      @@tommyspaghet6877 litteraly Seelkadoom

  • @conmanay4563
    @conmanay4563 Před 8 měsíci +832

    According to Ian Flynn, writer of the Archie Sonic comics who also wrote the script in frontiers. He pitched the idea that sonic was going to turn into hyper sonic in the final battle against “the end” but it was rejected

    • @Cruddy129
      @Cruddy129 Před 4 měsíci +165

      Because its allegedly stated that the power scaling is simply too OP even by The Ends standards
      So thats likely why Super Sonic 2 appeared, to match against the end, but not to the point where its an unfair fight

    • @Kerry-yl1sc
      @Kerry-yl1sc Před 4 měsíci +28

      That's so dumb

    • @brunourielthehedgehog4464
      @brunourielthehedgehog4464 Před 3 měsíci +46

      Yes, and Takashi Iizuka had also said that Hyper was created because of the gameplay factor, because at the time of the Megadrive, there were cartridges, when you put together the cartridges, Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, you would have Sonic 3 & Knuckles, however, for those who already played on the Sonic 3 cartridge and had already collected the emeralds in Sonic 3, they wouldn't have anything to collect from & Knuckles, so they created a second transformation, nowadays, in Sonic Origins, you can do the true ending without the super emeralds

    • @Kerry-yl1sc
      @Kerry-yl1sc Před 3 měsíci +35

      He also said hyper sonic could return but would need a special circumstance

    • @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre
      @GamerTheVoidGamingCentre Před 3 měsíci +47

      @@Cruddy129then scale it as a being only Hyper can defeat, make it an even greater threat. Writers can do stuff like that. A “balanced fight” against a thing called THE END is kinda dumb. Especially since we’re going Super 2 for some reason, at that point just let him go Hyper.

  • @insanecandycane1283
    @insanecandycane1283 Před 3 měsíci +99

    It would need to be used VERY sparingly for a very epic final battle (an opportunity already missed in Frontiers). But fans would always be waiting for it and wondering if it's going to appear in every game.

    • @yofolkdem1256
      @yofolkdem1256 Před měsícem +1

      Just make way to unlock permanently for new game+.

  • @MetalSonic420
    @MetalSonic420 Před rokem +1795

    I'd like to see Hyper Sonic again in the future.

  • @Revan384
    @Revan384 Před rokem +370

    If they don't want to bring Hyper Sonic back because of the flashing lights, they could depict him in the same way that a lot of fan art does, glowing silver with a rainbow aura.

    • @bigmacsama
      @bigmacsama Před rokem +38

      Exactly! Same can be said about creating Hyper Tails and Hyper Knuckles.

    • @davidtamasherman1728
      @davidtamasherman1728 Před rokem +8

      @@bigmacsama They're already exist in the Origins version.

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 Před rokem +40

      Or just slow down the color rotation. He could pulse a white light between colors and as as the pulse fades the next color fades in, then pulses back to white, and so on. It doesn't need to flicker.

    • @Pakkun247
      @Pakkun247 Před rokem

      Zamasu

    • @enderborn6860
      @enderborn6860 Před rokem +12

      Oh yeah like that white form from Sonic X that inspired Nazo Unleashed

  • @notfunny755
    @notfunny755 Před měsícem +2

    Sonic 3 AIR:hello there

  • @Barfywastaken
    @Barfywastaken Před 11 měsíci +7

    this is literally the sonic equivalent of
    "did know mario 2 is a reskin of doki doki panic"

  • @breazy832
    @breazy832 Před rokem +488

    Truly the SSJ4 of this community

    • @zizo3132
      @zizo3132 Před 4 měsíci +17

      I think it is the mui of this community due to the similarities but yeah I agree with you

    • @nubby4244
      @nubby4244 Před 4 měsíci +3

      literally nothing is the same with these two

    • @AhmadKazan-wk7ei
      @AhmadKazan-wk7ei Před 4 měsíci +50

      ​@@nubby4244As in a fan favorite form with one or very little appearances that was never shown again.

    • @nubby4244
      @nubby4244 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@AhmadKazan-wk7ei mui appears in the manga games and even a scene in the movies hyper only appears once

    • @Purpleisgreat.
      @Purpleisgreat. Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@zizo3132so sonic can dodge things in hyper without thinking about it. I don't think there is a single similarity

  • @SocksFC
    @SocksFC Před rokem +541

    I swear the Super Emeralds were in Adventure 1 flashbacks. Normally Chaos Emeralds in that game are small, but in the flashbacks the altar contains much larger surrounding Emeralds, similar to size of Super Emeralds

    • @tl1882
      @tl1882 Před rokem +27

      they were the size of the sa2 master emerald i think

    • @SonZackSSJ2
      @SonZackSSJ2 Před rokem +20

      @@tl1882 I mean the Master Emerald in SA2 was Small XD

    • @sonicadventure3130
      @sonicadventure3130 Před rokem +7

      I didn’t think they were thy big.

    • @davidtamasherman1728
      @davidtamasherman1728 Před rokem +3

      I like your idea.

    • @bluphantomexe8279
      @bluphantomexe8279 Před rokem +15

      @@sonicadventure3130 No, if you play a video you can see that they are huge when all seven of them are on the alter.

  • @azeroth2994
    @azeroth2994 Před 7 měsíci +30

    Okay so Super Emeralds are separate entities to Chaos Emeralds. For the longest of times I thought that Super Emeralds were Chaos Emeralds but super charged by the Master Emerald, which made sense to me bc we could get Super only after getting Chaos Emeralds

  • @alexanderprimo7239
    @alexanderprimo7239 Před 7 měsíci +14

    that is the story canon reason, but the actual reason is because they stated that they "dont want too many forms like a certain anime" and we all know which anime is being referred to even though it wasnt mentioned by name.
    Though, its ironic because it seems as though Super Sonic 2 was teased for Sonic Frontiers DLC.

    • @freakingjames1820
      @freakingjames1820 Před 3 měsíci +6

      And they already have a good number of alternative forms in the canon even though they are usually stricted to a single game. Unleashed, Black Knight, Secret Rings, and now Frontiers. If that's their excuse than it seems pretty out of touch with the franchise's continuity.

    • @alexanderprimo7239
      @alexanderprimo7239 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@freakingjames1820 You’re correct, but Sonic 3 & Knuckles came out 30 years ago… Back when the only transformation was Super Sonic lol.

    • @georgeshaw4017
      @georgeshaw4017 Před 2 měsíci +4

      The Dragon Ball Excuse is still dumb since Super Sonic already makes people think of Super Saiyan. So it’s too late for that.

  • @Pensive_Scarlet
    @Pensive_Scarlet Před rokem +573

    Imagine you invent a thing as just a nice bonus and now everyone keeps asking you about it and finally you're just like, "They're in another dimension!"

  • @devante9207
    @devante9207 Před rokem +578

    I think Ian Flynn and the crew could write a good story and introduce hyper sonic in the comics. I could also see him coming back in the games if the frontiers formula and the use of super sonic will be the standard moving forward. However once you cross the “ a threat super sonic can’t beat” line, there’s no going back

    • @Chaosflower
      @Chaosflower Před rokem +27

      Well frontiers is getting dlc and a sequel sooooooooo ITS POSSIBLE

    • @projectiony4048
      @projectiony4048 Před rokem +39

      @@Chaosflower It is but it’s very highly unlikely they’re reintroducing hyper sonic lol. The more and more they keep heading in the direction with super sonic being a norm in regular games for regular bosses they probably will it introduce a new form.

    • @c14r4n6
      @c14r4n6 Před rokem +30

      ​@@Chaosflower The point of the titans in Frontiers is that they use the power of 1 chaos emerald, it would be dumb if Sonic couldn't defeat a Titan with 7 of them

    • @isaac-li4bs
      @isaac-li4bs Před rokem +55

      Issue is it has the Super Saiyan effect, when you introduce a new form that's insanely more powerful, it becomes hard to make the original form useful again in future stories without lowering the stakes

    • @Chaosflower
      @Chaosflower Před rokem +2

      @@c14r4n6 oh yeah

  • @TheSameGoobyGuy
    @TheSameGoobyGuy Před 3 měsíci +59

    “Would you like to see hyper sonic again?
    **Sniff** YEEEEEEEHEEEEEEEHEEEEEHEEES! 😭

  • @user-ov1ip7rj5x
    @user-ov1ip7rj5x Před 2 měsíci +2

    I would LOVE to see hyper sonic again

  • @yuselam.s3908
    @yuselam.s3908 Před rokem +207

    “Would you like to see hyper sonic again?”
    YES.

  • @sonicblazer820
    @sonicblazer820 Před rokem +117

    To me I always believed it was to prevent seizures from people because of the fact he was rapidly changing colors throughout his duration of the form until his ring count reach zero

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem +23

      Maybe in future games they could change it to be pure white with a slightly rainbowish aura

    • @Cheesekindafirengl
      @Cheesekindafirengl Před rokem +9

      They could use the Archie sonic comics colors for it as everyone (almost) has gone hyper in the Archie comics

    • @wingeddragonra3953
      @wingeddragonra3953 Před rokem +12

      You could just slow down the flashes . Problem solve. Or instead of making him flash, make him white with a white aura

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem +2

      @@wingeddragonra3953 white aura is cooler!

    • @anomaly395
      @anomaly395 Před rokem +2

      They can easily change that

  • @theblackcatofchronos
    @theblackcatofchronos Před 3 měsíci +5

    I've heard that when they were planning the new END/Supreme boss fight for the dlc in Frontiers there was talk about bringing back Hyper Sonic for the fight but it was shot down and instead we got Super Sonic 2.

  • @Anukinihun
    @Anukinihun Před 2 měsíci +3

    All they have to do is that Hyper Sonic is when Sonic uses both the Positive and Negative power of the emeralds. Super Sonic uses only the Positive that's why they keep their color, Negative uses up the color of the emeralds.

  • @MrNeedleM0use
    @MrNeedleM0use Před rokem +838

    Its all because of Hyper Sonic causing eyepain to people...

    • @AshVA1
      @AshVA1 Před rokem +85

      Was that really true? It doesn't even look that flashy

    • @kirgolor
      @kirgolor Před rokem +114

      @@AshVA1 Like if you use to much the flash attack it can cause epilepsy (If you have it)

    • @Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
      @Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- Před rokem

      Thats a lie , seizures are a hoax to control the general population .
      And therefore thats a shitty excuse .

    • @Quickstein
      @Quickstein Před rokem +96

      Also Hyper Sonic isn't cycling colors in this video near as fast as he originally did.

    • @mrmemekick
      @mrmemekick Před rokem +12

      No it’s because of Goku

  • @Hadaron
    @Hadaron Před rokem +260

    My personal excuse I’ve made - the Super Emeralds were a temporary powerup to the Chaos Emerald caused by the Master Emerald. When this powerup faded, they shrank back down, but kept their signature diamond shape that we now see them in. Sonic, too, was permanently changed by the Super Emeralds, keeping a nerfed version of the Crystal Flash as the Homing Attack and having his eyes stained green with Chaos energy.

    • @sitcatz9249
      @sitcatz9249 Před rokem +29

      That's an amazing explanation! Makes you think whether the temporary return of the hyper form for Modern Sonic would bring any further changes to his moveset or design.

    • @adrianherbert5844
      @adrianherbert5844 Před rokem +3

      ​@Sitcatz Besides an epilepsy lawsuit for SEGA? Maybe it'll make him taller, deeper-voiced and slightly beefier. Sonic is a twig in every game.

    • @SoloSilence
      @SoloSilence Před rokem +1

      I remember hearing this exact thing in another CZcams video

    • @ChopperPlayed
      @ChopperPlayed Před rokem +4

      Awesome theory! I remember when Chaos was in the comics and he trapped Sonic inside his water body and sonic had to burst out of Chaos and when he came out he had green eyes. I think they said it was from the “chaos energy” inside Chaos’ water that got into Sonic’s eyes. Well that was at least Archie’s way of writing green eyes onto Sonic. I think I like your idea more!

    • @Zahncel
      @Zahncel Před 11 měsíci

      Please bring hypersonic back😢😭🥺

  • @zarabsha
    @zarabsha Před 4 dny +1

    "The super emeralds are in another dimension"
    archie sonic: say less

  • @StriderStryker
    @StriderStryker Před 27 dny +1

    Blaze the Cat: *uses the Super Emeralds*
    Sonic: _Mind if I borrow these items? Please?_ 🥺

  • @YoshiKing8211
    @YoshiKing8211 Před rokem +237

    They had a great opportunity to do it in frontiers because he was literally going to different dimensions in the game.

    • @bd4315
      @bd4315 Před rokem +8

      He was only going to a digital dimension in frontiers.

    • @therllynoobguy4548
      @therllynoobguy4548 Před rokem +1

      @@bd4315 meaning a different dimension…

    • @bd4315
      @bd4315 Před rokem

      @@therllynoobguy4548 it’s not a different dimension though, it’s still the normal dimension just a computer program within that dimension. I shouldn’t have said dimension before, I know.

    • @platform4857
      @platform4857 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@bd4315the reason they wont bring hyper back is because the creators of sonic dont want to have a goku situation where super sonic gets overshadowed by his other forms making the impact of super sonic less good

    • @platform4857
      @platform4857 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@bd4315and hyper was never canon

  • @ryank2780
    @ryank2780 Před rokem +180

    If Sonic Team gave the Hyper form good story relevancy and not just for the reasons of "fans want this form back cuz they miss it" then yes, I would want it to come back.

    • @tiffanyB8825
      @tiffanyB8825 Před rokem +3

      Yes

    • @Koppu1doragon
      @Koppu1doragon Před rokem

      Honestly, I really don't need a story in fact I kind of miss the days when the Chaos Emeralds weren't in the front of the story. In fact, I thought it a bit, dare I say, cringe when Sonic in Frontiers mentioned, ah yes I might not be able to beat this titan now but just wait until I go Super Sonic.
      Like cool story bro literally anyone with the emeralds is just as strong, you're not special.

    • @RobocopStealerOfFridges
      @RobocopStealerOfFridges Před rokem +3

      ​​@@Koppu1doragon You don't understand what was going on in Frontiers, do you? In Frontiers, Sonic's the only good character that's outside of Hyperspace. All of his friends that appear in the game are stuck in-between or in Hyperspace for the majority of the game's runtime, so they're physically unable to interact with the real world, so Sonic's literally their last hope. And, even WHEN they come back to the real world, they go back into Hyperspace to help revive Sonic, causing Sonic to be the world's last hope. I respect your opinion, but I just wanted to clarify what was going on in Frontiers to my understanding.

    • @Koppu1doragon
      @Koppu1doragon Před rokem

      @@RobocopStealerOfFridges I am sorry but what does this have to do with the Chaos Emeralds? Like I know the story of Frontiers that was never in question my issue had nothing to do with the story it was the fact that Sonic, the Sonic was going. "Oh yeah I might not be able to beat you right now but wait until I get these special rocks!"

  • @Oreo_Meowy
    @Oreo_Meowy Před 10 měsíci +6

    Would be so dope to see hyper sonic again sadly SEGA said he would never come back :(

  • @eljaminlatour6633
    @eljaminlatour6633 Před 19 dny +1

    Hyper Sonic is cool, he's like a Sonic never seen before. Maybe, that would make the Kleptomobile and Phantom King bosses easier in Sonic Mania, since Super Sonic can dash but that sacrifices his rings.

  • @Hello86257
    @Hello86257 Před rokem +263

    Imagine a game where you go to that other dimension and retrieve the super emeralds

    • @HarshanSinghNoori
      @HarshanSinghNoori Před 4 měsíci +11

      You know? That could be a kinda good concept

    • @Red_Tsar
      @Red_Tsar Před 3 měsíci +8

      Sonic Rush show it's possible.

    • @thekingofsouls3953
      @thekingofsouls3953 Před 2 měsíci +5

      As i know super emeralds are chaos emeralds but stronger, because in sonic3&knuckles you lose your emeralds at hidden palace and after that super emeralds appear

    • @ratt__mann9220
      @ratt__mann9220 Před 2 měsíci +7

      Imagine Blaze is just wondering where the hell these giant emeralds came from.

    • @coldkush
      @coldkush Před měsícem +3

      Sonic frontier was a game about you going to another dimension cyberspace

  • @Jorpda
    @Jorpda Před rokem +46

    I can’t stop thinking about an old sonic animation where Sonic goes Hyper and every other character has a seizure looking at him

    • @dymaz6282
      @dymaz6282 Před rokem

      Sos latino verdad?

    • @zizo3132
      @zizo3132 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Dam you remember that animation ?
      Good memories.

    • @zakifarah603
      @zakifarah603 Před 3 měsíci +5

      I was thinking that’s the reason we never got to see hyper sonic again

    • @barkinglights249
      @barkinglights249 Před 2 měsíci

      WHATS IT CALLED

    • @Justin-qj7fk
      @Justin-qj7fk Před 2 měsíci

      @@barkinglights249 I believe it was called “Hyper Sonic’s Problem.” Again, it’s old, so I’m not 100% sure CZcams will give you the right results.

  • @guts60
    @guts60 Před měsícem +1

    Archie Sonic: “Hopping between dimensions? That’s easy, lemme go do it right now!”

  • @blueblaze7312
    @blueblaze7312 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I think that the last part is what breaks the whole deal. As you said,
    "They reside in a different dimension"
    I think that if they have dropped that limiter, we would be able to see Sonic go Hyper again.

  • @jawndog1975
    @jawndog1975 Před rokem +67

    I would love a sonic game where super sonic isn't enough. The enemies are too strong so they collected the super emeralds at the end and turn into hyper sonic.
    Edit: Wow. Its my first time getting this much likes. TY for the support

    • @JasonDevil06
      @JasonDevil06 Před rokem +6

      Super Sonic's fought beings and gods that can wipe out dimensions and time there's not a lot of people that can beat him

    • @DevilsNeverCry333
      @DevilsNeverCry333 Před rokem

      Frontiers. There is technology stronger than him.

  • @shroomfruit345
    @shroomfruit345 Před rokem +35

    If they brought him back his colors should probably change slower and more smoothly than they do now, but I’d love to see him at some point

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 Před rokem +3

      So just fade from one color to white and then fade into the next color. Perhaps a little white light pulse during the white phase. I think it could look good like that. No need to flicker.

  • @TotherKoala
    @TotherKoala Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yeah... about that... sonic literally went to another dimension in Final Frontier

  • @larrygiles8556
    @larrygiles8556 Před 7 dny

    Hyper Sonic and Hyper Tails was cool. They should definitely bring both of them back. Having the animals help Tails fight was a nice touch.

  • @cherry_flavored_content
    @cherry_flavored_content Před rokem +27

    One thing that gives me hope is that in one tweet from Morio Kishimoto he said that he had interest in exploring new forms for Sonic, answering a question about Hyper Sonic. So while the Hyper form itself might not come back, maybe something similar could show up in a future game

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 Před rokem +1

      New forms would be cool but Super should still be the strongest, forms like Darkspine and Excalibur are awesome despite not being half as powerful. We should've gotten the cyber form that was built up in Frontiers

    • @semu8030
      @semu8030 Před rokem

      Or DLC 👀

    • @cherry_flavored_content
      @cherry_flavored_content Před rokem

      @@semu8030 I think the DLC would probably just make Super Tails and Super Knuckles canon again if anything, and introduce Super Amy or a similar concept, assuming that the other characters get to play through the whole game including bosses

    • @semu8030
      @semu8030 Před rokem +1

      @@cherry_flavored_content The third DLC will have a new story for the game with Knuckles, Tails and Amy being playable. The idea of bringing super Knuckles, super Tails and super Amy sounds really ambitious and I doubt that will be the case. Through the game's story, the three of them mentioned they want to travel around the world or "be on their own for some time", so I'm guessing the DLC will show us just that. They could make the three characters playable in the islands but I think that would brake the game. If Tails can fly, Amy can jump higher and Knuckles can glide and climb, we as players could skip pretty much any limitations the game originally had, but on the other hand if the developers don't give these characters such abilities, fans will get pissed because they don't play as expected. That third DLC is the one I'm most worried about, because Sonic Team is risking a lot there

    • @cherry_flavored_content
      @cherry_flavored_content Před rokem +1

      @@semu8030 It is a very ambitious thing yeah, but at the same time I guess it would make sense that they can break the game, Sonic can already do some things to skip sections by boosting off rails or using the 100%-not-a-glitch homing dash, and given that they're DLC that probably would only be unlocked at the end of the game, it's more like a reward. It's like Super Sonic in the classic games, the invincibility and extra attributes makes the game a non-issue, but it's fun.
      The idea of it being their own adventures would be pretty cool, but I think it's more likely that those would be reserved to their own spin-offs

  • @Totoma7163
    @Totoma7163 Před rokem +95

    Mods have leave the chat

  • @YellowtheStickFigure-jc1tb
    @YellowtheStickFigure-jc1tb Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sonic Mania hearing that the super emeralds reside in another dimension be like: WHAT THE FU-

  • @JustarandomOrangedud
    @JustarandomOrangedud Před 18 dny

    “The Super Emeralds reside in another dimension” Oh, so I guess Frontiers WAS a missed chance.

  • @wander7812
    @wander7812 Před rokem +35

    Definetly the most underrated forms from the Sonic franchise:
    - Hyper Sonic, (Sonic & Knuckles)
    He looks unique and is the ultimate form basically. I really enjoyed the appearance of it and how giant Sonic's spikes got. I really love this form and wish we could see more, specially because of how mysterious it truly is.
    - Darkspine Sonic, (Sonic & The Secret Rings)
    Because... well it looked nice? I liked the firey powers, and the logic behind it. Sonic absorved the power from the negative rings, meaning if he had all 7 power rings, he would have got some Superspine Sonic? which means "this is not even his final form"! I want to at least see some outside art from the devs that shows us what Superspine would look like.
    - Turbo Sonic, (from the Sonic Adventure games).
    The execution in gameplay was weird but cmon the concept was cool! Sonic focusing the energy of his spin dash on himself to get to move like quicksilver is a cool concept.
    - Excalibur Sonic, (Sonic & The Black Knight).
    It simply looks UNIQUE, the transformation was like some Super Sentai or Power Ranger sequence, or something from Saint Seiya. The story of this game was also underrated.
    - Dark Sonic, (Anime Sonic X)
    Yes its canonically weaker than Super Sonic, but who cares? it was cool. In the japanese dub Dark Sonic wasn't like a "edgy psycho" like in the 4kids dub. In the official version of the anime (JP Dub) he was quiet... and just aggressive. I liked it.

    • @tedioabsoluto5780
      @tedioabsoluto5780 Před rokem +2

      dark, spine and excalibur SLAPS

    • @blackjehoplays4439
      @blackjehoplays4439 Před rokem

      Ultra Sonic From the comics

    • @lukenogami
      @lukenogami Před rokem +1

      i like the fact that dark sonic doesn't necessarily needs the emeralds, it's just sonic being angry and losing his temper

    • @tedioabsoluto5780
      @tedioabsoluto5780 Před rokem +1

      @@lukenogami i mean in sonic X there was the fake emeralds, and sonic losing his temper and reaching the limit looks more like fleetway, but yeah pretty much

    • @wander7812
      @wander7812 Před rokem

      @@lukenogami Listen idk where you took that, but he needs the fake emeralds, and to be surrounded by MANY of them.
      He then needs to not get just angry, but be filled with multiple dark emotions. He needs despair, fear, anger, and uneasiness.

  • @Sonicdudestfu
    @Sonicdudestfu Před rokem +68

    I do think there should be a game where sonic gets teleported into another reality where the super emeralds are there in a 3D area.

  • @puglife658
    @puglife658 Před 26 dny +1

    There could have totally been recreations of the super emeralds in cyber space in frontiers so that sonic could be hyper sonic for the final boss considering they used super sonic for all the other bosses.

  • @Davidhannatown8729
    @Davidhannatown8729 Před měsícem +1

    Seeing hyper sonic in sonic movie3 that would just be great mentioning there’s gonna be shadow

  • @VTRcomics
    @VTRcomics Před rokem +29

    Having Hyper Sonic appear just once in 3D would be interesting especially since Frontiers was going into the history and origin of the chaos emeralds. I think we should definitely at least see it once more because nothing else from the classic era has really been left behind.

  • @xTriton_
    @xTriton_ Před rokem +19

    They've gotta be saving Hyper for an extreme threat headed Mobius' way sometime in the future, when Super Sonic just isn't enough.

    • @darrelleaster5381
      @darrelleaster5381 Před rokem +7

      Honestly, here are my thoughts. They could have a game where they bring back Dark Sonic and Hyper Sonic in one fell swoop. Super Sonic could b using the positive side of the emeralds, and not be enough. Dark Sonic could be using the negative side of the Emeralds and not be enough. So Sonic had to learn to use balanced Chaos Energy, and master it to unlock the power of the Super Emeralds. Hyper Sonic would just be powered off of pure Chaos Energy, and Sonic would have to have full Mastery over the Emeralds in order to harness that kind of raw power.

  • @kyberion
    @kyberion Před 21 dnem

    hyper sonic predicted every transformation from Dragon Ball Super

  • @andrewmalbon
    @andrewmalbon Před 5 dny

    Me rn: TRAVELING DIMENSIONS IS SONIC FRONTIER’S WHOLE STORY

  • @adachiaishi1668
    @adachiaishi1668 Před rokem +39

    Would be pretty sick if hyper came back. They could even make a new dlc for frontiers, incorporating an island to find collectibles like in the base game to maybe power up each super emerald like you would in S3&K. Heck, maybe even a new even cooler final boss.

    • @loremipsum5116
      @loremipsum5116 Před rokem +4

      It would be better to save it for the sequels. Flesh out the origin of the chaos emerald and tie them into the super emeralds at the same time. I'm still really interested to see where that storyline was going

    • @adachiaishi1668
      @adachiaishi1668 Před rokem

      @@loremipsum5116 truuueeeee

  • @Artemis_Nyx
    @Artemis_Nyx Před rokem +4

    I think i read that in one of the comics is that the power of hyper sonic was so great it nearly killed those who used them so they locked them away. Tho theres also something matpat said, but i don't remember which video it was.

  • @landofhartbjorn9388
    @landofhartbjorn9388 Před 2 měsíci

    They’re not in another dimension, they’re shattered in the Hidden Palace Zone.

  • @monikakoti7143
    @monikakoti7143 Před 9 dny

    Hyper : ITS BEEN 30 GOD DAMN YEARS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @adamatif288
    @adamatif288 Před rokem +27

    Hyper Sonic was such a cool transformation in Sonic 3 and Knuckles.

  • @X-RobPlayerYT
    @X-RobPlayerYT Před rokem +26

    Hyper Sonic was one of my favorite sonic forms, I hope we can see it in later games if they change the lore behind why he can't or at least put him in official content other than games

  • @hinhinwong
    @hinhinwong Před měsícem +1

    THE WORLD NEED HYPER SONIC

  • @jaynight15
    @jaynight15 Před rokem +29

    Nazo Unleashed had the Super Chaos Emeralds appear in a pretty good way

  • @shadowsilvertailsfan
    @shadowsilvertailsfan Před rokem +32

    I swear that I heard in an interview that they did not bring him back, due to fear of copyright from Dragon Ball.
    While I would love to see him, I don't think we will any time soon

    • @DatWilsonBoy1610
      @DatWilsonBoy1610 Před 6 měsíci +6

      That’s why I’m confused, because Hyper Sonic came out way before MUI, hyper sonic released in 1994 and MUI released in 2015, so if anyone gets copyrighted it should be dragonball

    • @shadowsilvertailsfan
      @shadowsilvertailsfan Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@DatWilsonBoy1610 I totally agree. I always have, but one of my friends loves DB and he said it came first. I dunno

    • @pootispastry397
      @pootispastry397 Před 6 měsíci +2

      it was less of a copyright issue, more of "We don't want our spiky protagonist too closely resembling another spiky protagonist from a certain anime"

    • @bluestreaker9242
      @bluestreaker9242 Před 3 měsíci

      @@pootispastry397 Which is...odd to me. Because even OG Super Sonic predates Dragon Ball. :/

    • @JJ-yl2mi
      @JJ-yl2mi Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@bluestreaker9242no it doesn't Dragon Ball Z is much older than you think

  • @SylarGartner2102
    @SylarGartner2102 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I want to see him again in sonic movie 3

  • @RedX8477
    @RedX8477 Před měsícem +1

    Hyper Sonic is so powerful, he can kill someone with epilepsy. Someone in real life playing the game. Damn, I feel like Hyper Sonic is scarier than Sonic.exe himself

  • @dr.c139
    @dr.c139 Před rokem +63

    I think we should see hyper sonic again at one point

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem +2

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

    • @mariobrine7012
      @mariobrine7012 Před rokem +1

      Finally somebody that believes the Master Emerald could aid too, it controls the Chaos Emeralds so it could pull out more power just so Sonic can unlock the Hyper form BRIEFLY for a final attack.

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem +2

      @@mariobrine7012 and judging by the stuff he was able to do in frontiers, I think hyper sonic would delve more into the dragon ball territory. And I mean come on, we all pretty much want that

  • @treythornton19
    @treythornton19 Před rokem +45

    I would say, yes. I will like to see Hyper Sonic for the future sonic games.

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem +1

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

  • @floridianliau35
    @floridianliau35 Před dnem

    I always assumed that Hyper Sonic was no longer used because of epilepsy

  • @avadoksorem2854
    @avadoksorem2854 Před měsícem

    This is what the layman calls “unrealized/wasted potential”.

  • @jeremiah6945
    @jeremiah6945 Před rokem +12

    It would be interesting to see how they could make Hyper Sonic return

    • @krabman2889
      @krabman2889 Před rokem

      Maybe they could write it to where he has to get all the chaos emeralds along with fusing with the master emerald to do it. Cuz we’ve never seen him use the master emerald before

  • @wearywanderer1912
    @wearywanderer1912 Před rokem +5

    Hyper Sonic is basically Mastered Ultra Instinct foreshadowing.

    • @KINGPLO-
      @KINGPLO- Před 3 měsíci

      Hyper sonic came out before

    • @ezztoxic6439
      @ezztoxic6439 Před 3 měsíci

      @@KINGPLO- hence why he said foreshadowing

  • @chasingdreamsSFM
    @chasingdreamsSFM Před měsícem

    I honestly forgot Hyper existed but I do wish to see them again one day

  • @Mario_Sonic_and_Kirby_Editor
    @Mario_Sonic_and_Kirby_Editor Před 3 měsíci +1

    We saw him again in Sonic Origins

    • @tejasb1239
      @tejasb1239 Před 8 dny

      Isn't Sonic Origins a remaster of the classic Sonic games?

  • @nerdydebaterjj
    @nerdydebaterjj Před rokem +13

    It'd be simpler if Sega just figured out a real way the Super Emeralds could be used. Like how they could create an alternative way the Master Emerald could potentially power UP the Chaos Emeralds and unify their energy to make them stronger. Or in Super form, Sonic powers the Chaos Emeralds with his new abilities in order to make them much more powerful then they were before, and then ABSORBS them once again. Simple.

  • @flynnroberts7787
    @flynnroberts7787 Před rokem +18

    I hope it returns...

  • @MetalMugger
    @MetalMugger Před 2 měsíci

    God, I love these wild fan theories people pull outta their asses to explain the most mundane video game trivia. 😂

  • @Hussainsworld345
    @Hussainsworld345 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Bro if hyper sonic can be canon he needs to go to another dimension to get the super chaos emeralds he would need to be super sonic to travel to another dimension and get the super chaos emeralds

  • @jeskerjames3260
    @jeskerjames3260 Před rokem +46

    Such an underrated form, I would love to see it return!

    • @Kill_peter
      @Kill_peter Před 9 měsíci +3

      Hype sonic is NOT underrated😭

    • @sonichacker141
      @sonichacker141 Před 9 měsíci

      super sonic is underrsted
      hyper sonic is overrated

    • @kakska4059
      @kakska4059 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​​@@sonichacker141super sonic is literally used in almost every sonic game, how can something that the fans have seen over and over again be underrated? If you think its underrated its because fans already know how strong he is, hyper sonic on the other hand hasn't really gotten any chanse to prove his strenght against powerful enemies unlike super sonic.

    • @sonichacker141
      @sonichacker141 Před 9 měsíci

      @@kakska4059 no, im talking about how the community uses hyper sonic
      they're literally in every single game as a mod
      but it's just a rainbow, and basically a god version of super sonic
      super sonic people think hes overrated for literally having no abilities, when he can stop time, chaos control, and (im not sure canon or not) chaos spear in sonic x
      and also count all his frontiers moves.

    • @sonichacker141
      @sonichacker141 Před 9 měsíci

      @@kakska4059 also, i saw a sonic JUS mugen that basically indicates what hyper sonic would do

  • @Dark_Mario_Bros.
    @Dark_Mario_Bros. Před rokem +7

    Mania's Super sonic in the final battle is literally Hyper Sonic, but without the broken instant destruction flash and able to fly

    • @spider-soniczilla2989
      @spider-soniczilla2989 Před rokem +2

      I think due to Hyper originally going to be in the game, that's probably where we were meant to use him.
      That's just my guess.

    • @Jpx0999
      @Jpx0999 Před rokem +2

      Instant destruction flash is sonic most OP mov3 ever

  • @vlalcremie002
    @vlalcremie002 Před 9 měsíci +2

    A great opportunity for Hyper Sonic to be back would've been The End

    • @patrickschulz2193
      @patrickschulz2193 Před 8 měsíci +2

      The writer thought so, too, but was rejected. The new content trailer however, makes you think.

  • @supertubbie8767
    @supertubbie8767 Před 14 hodinami

    I've been dreaming of seeing Hyper Sonic again since the moment he appeared. It seems to me that there will be an interesting plot with a threat that even super Sonic is powerless against, which is why Sonic will have to move to a new level.

  • @averagegohanfan0o0
    @averagegohanfan0o0 Před rokem +88

    I think it would be fun as a end of game form that you can explore with and maybe do bonus levels or something

  • @BerkayGaming2011
    @BerkayGaming2011 Před rokem +3

    There is a way to Sonic to transform into Hyper Sonic but it’s impossible
    Step 1: He needs to recollect all 7 Chaos Emeralds again
    Step 2: He needs to convince Knuckles to get powers from the Master Emerald
    Step 3: He needs to use all 7 Emeralds then go Super
    Final Step: He needs to touch the Master Emerald to go Hyper
    And that’s all steps

  • @M0HAK0
    @M0HAK0 Před 2 měsíci

    Yes I would love to see Hyper Sonic again. Very sick transformation.

  • @Ratscallion_exe
    @Ratscallion_exe Před 18 dny

    "There is physically no way Sonic can rea-"
    **Sonic: Beyond Dimensions**

  • @cullbear55
    @cullbear55 Před rokem +7

    Hyper Sonic in SA3, make it happen lol

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack Před rokem +4

    Morio Kishimoto: "Please allow me to introduce myself."

  • @ztsquid3000
    @ztsquid3000 Před 6 dny +1

    They could have put hypersonic in Sonic Frontiers for the final boss.

  • @SilverDemon04yt
    @SilverDemon04yt Před 10 dny

    It would be nice to see Hyper Sonic in a game after Sonic 3. Like you said, the Super Emeralds are in another dimension, so maybe someone out there could make a game to reach that distance.

  • @ramonvasquez3503
    @ramonvasquez3503 Před rokem +3

    I'd love to see it again, but love the fact that we never will even more...he's like a legend, a statue of Hercules kinda

  • @ahmadkazan5473
    @ahmadkazan5473 Před rokem +55

    I think it's better lore wise that super sonic remains sonic's strongest form as it makes no sense that a tool with infinite power needs another tool to be used at full potential.

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 Před rokem +3

      Exactly, I don't count S3K as canon, Sonic 3 is canon, Sonic & Knuckles is canon

    • @georgeshaw4017
      @georgeshaw4017 Před rokem +16

      @@gunman8452 They are the same events just together.

    • @patrickdixon7202
      @patrickdixon7202 Před rokem +3

      @@gunman8452 Shush.

    • @personalover2498
      @personalover2498 Před rokem +3

      Darkspine and Excalibur are stronger than Super

    • @gunman8452
      @gunman8452 Před rokem +5

      @@personalover2498 no they aren't

  • @locote0361
    @locote0361 Před 3 měsíci

    We do see hyper sonic still. With the power of.. ✨MODS✨

  • @sonictheporcipine
    @sonictheporcipine Před 2 měsíci +1

    I always thought the super emeralds were just chaos emeralds enhanced by the master emerald.

  • @vdmix8170
    @vdmix8170 Před rokem +4

    If I remember, a tweet from Morio [one of sonic team staff members] said that Hyper Sonic was sealed, and we might have a form equal to hyper.

  • @SilvaShadow1990
    @SilvaShadow1990 Před rokem +11

    I still just want a game where we get Scourge.

    • @homersodysseus
      @homersodysseus Před rokem +6

      not gonna happen anytime

    • @SilvaShadow1990
      @SilvaShadow1990 Před rokem

      @@homersodysseus i Kno. But just think how cool we get another Sonic to interact with, and he is a complete opposite asshole of our Sonic. Imagine the fun interaction shadow and scourge could have, just like the comics!

    • @KikzoTheDemonJackal
      @KikzoTheDemonJackal Před rokem +1

      ​@@SilvaShadow1990 never going to happen

    • @SilvaShadow1990
      @SilvaShadow1990 Před rokem

      @@KikzoTheDemonJackal I'll always dream XD
      I only keep pushing it because he's like the only Sonic we really haven't gotten yet.

    • @KikzoTheDemonJackal
      @KikzoTheDemonJackal Před rokem +2

      @SilvaShadow1990 I get that, but we won't get him ever because Sega doesn't own him anymore. Ken Penders does, and he won't give him up or any other Archie Sonic characters he now owns. Sega already had to deal with Ken with the lawsuit he did to get those Archie characters, and they don't want to go thru that again. So, unfortunately, Scourge will never be returning at all in any sonic media.

  • @jamimuhammad3699
    @jamimuhammad3699 Před 12 dny +1

    Honestly with sonic prime multiverse and sonic multiverse just have egg man open a rift to them and then sonic collects them and goes hyper sonic.

  • @tempgamefreakgaming
    @tempgamefreakgaming Před 2 měsíci

    If I recall correctly, in Sonic Mania the player can find the Super Emeralds cracked and grey... meaning it was a one time thing in Sonic 3...

  • @OmegaStarstrike
    @OmegaStarstrike Před rokem +5

    Yes, I'd like to see Hyper Sonic again. And they can bring that back.

  • @merchantziro4285
    @merchantziro4285 Před rokem +7

    I definitely can see the form returning some day, perhaps playing a role akin to Ultra Sonic from the Archie Sonic Comics. If not in a future Sonic game (or the future Frontiers DLC) then maybe in Sonic Prime or the IDW Comics?

  • @pixelpawzgaming
    @pixelpawzgaming Před 10 dny

    Would love to see hyper Tails and possibly other hyper characters as long as it’s designed right and in a good story.

  • @dreamcream3738
    @dreamcream3738 Před 12 dny

    They probably won't admit it, but its probably because of the flashing colors risking epileptic seizures

  • @BT_Official2011
    @BT_Official2011 Před rokem +4

    Well than they don't know how big hyper is so if there in a dif dimension make a game about it