WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY PROPERTY IN PORTUGAL PT I, watch this first, it may save your heart.
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2021
- A lesson from history if youre planning on buying land or a house in Portugal, things can go horribly wrong and you wont know ubtil its too late.
Just hope this helps other people to avoid the mistake we have made.
I've started watching your most recent videos and working backwards, only today did I see this one. I'm a bit late, but just want to say so, so sorry this happened to you, the nicest amongst nice people. We haven't met, but I can tell already...
Unfortunately there are scammers & stinkers everywhere... Portugal is no different even when everyone seem to be so friendly and neighbourly... and offer you wine & chorizo... a few are just scum! I know what I'm talking about, I'm portuguese.
Most CZcamsrs just post about how everything is hanky-dory in Portugal... and how they are living the perfect life...and I cringe!
Good thing you are posting it like it is, making people aware of the pitfalls. Thank you for this video.
For those that would like to come to Portugal but worry about the process, I say this:
don't give up on your dream, but plan everything super well and in advance. Make a long list of all the things you, as a buyer need to check before buying and familiarize yourself with the whole process as much as possible.
Ideally get in touch with a few portuguese people that know how to go about buying arural property. Not everyone does know, but all will tell you they do...!
And NEVER believe the "sales spiel" of estate agents (aka realtors). They may well say they are looking after you and will (pretend) to go out of their way to accommodate & please you, but in the end they want to close the sale as fast as possible and get their commission... and move on to the next. They'll NEVER tell you about any problems. Why would they?! You might decide not to buy and that would mean their commission gone.
Any problems later... "we didn't know" of course...
The advice given here is good: ask the sellers for a copy of the "caderneta predial". The owners can print as many copies as they like online, but only they have access to their online account, so you can't get it yourself. Check who owns the boundaries all around your plot, it's in there. Go to the local Camara Municipal and check that the "numeros de matriz" (registry numbers) correspond to what the owners say they are selling. Likewise check the numbers of the plots around the one you are buying.
And as Nick has said: ask the seller to provide you with a topographical survey of the plot, at their own expense. Costs around 300 Euros more or less, but money well spent, as any irregularities will come up.
Last... but not least: buyers be aware!... In Portugal there is still a lot of rural land that is not properly registered and confusion with boundaries arises quite often, but with the digital systems and GPS now being used by the Conservatoria (Land Registry ) it is getting better.
Wishing you all Happy Days!
I've pinned this reply for others to read and share in your knowledge and wisdom.
Thank you so much Donna, we really appreciate your kind words and yes, we try to be as honest and transparent and genuine as we can be.
Thank you, muito obrigado ❤️💛💚🇵🇹
God bless you and may your tribe increase. I hope there are more people like you in every country.
@@SanjayFGeorge thank you Sanjay ❤️
Thank you donna !
Thank you for your reply Dona. Wish everyone would be like you :( do you offer services of advise or so? regarding house purchases?
this is a big bummer. it's swindling. you should confront the agency and the lawyer. ultimately file a complaint, they have licenses, they have to comply with rules. if you present proof they will pay for it. you look like good people, working class. I'm sure you guys will go over that.
We are going to fight this with love and work hard to find a solution, thank you Rui 😊
@@destino2portugal You are no loss to Britain with your self loathing and hatred of your own country and its people because they don't want open borders and weird sexual practices that are the lefts normalcy. I'm going home .... I'm giving up ... yada yada yada that's not all said with an eye on growing your patreon and donations is it ? You know why you can't afford a house in Cornwall ? because on a small island with limited space and housing stock you and your like are facilitating illegally ways for mainly men of fighting age to force their way into the country only for them to demand family reunion and another 5 or 6 people are let in per person ..... that's where the pity fest breaks down , your the architect of your own downfall !!! OH THE DELICIOUS IRONY . As for the ex pats yes they are different... they are LEGAL and have contributed to their new home in the form of taxes and investing in houses , businesses etc etc that ironically pays for the mega stretch on services , housing and doling out money .I know this as I legally emigrated but you devalue us .... mocking from up there on your high horse having taken your money and leaving the chaos you created behind . I don't normally laugh at anyone's misfortune BUT I will make an exception for you and chuckle everytime I think that you the working class hero with your shout of UP THE REVOLUTION COMRADE got cheated by your fellow working class .... salt of the earth people, just like many back in Britain robbed , stabbed even killed by those who expected streets paved with gold
@@meichong8278 go home. We don't like nasty here.
@@meichong8278 Wow! Such hate.
Hi from Sweden. Just subscribed. Saw your first video from Cornwall and have seen them all after that. Got hooked by the fact Sarah has the same profession as I have had for 30+ years - and your bravery in this whole project. Absolutely love your sense of humor and the variety of content. BUT THIS VIDEO - IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!! Absolutely jaw dropping. You must be SOO angry, to say the least. Guess it's to expensive to start a legal process that you don't know the outcome of. Just had to leave a comment for you to know how much I have loved your content. Take care you both! Kind regards from Katarina in Gothenburg 💛
Many thanks for following our journey and reaching out to connect with us!
I've been rather busy to try and reply to everyone but getting there now.
We are not going to expend too much energy on fighting, we shall see what happens and find solutions rather than be bitter and angry anymore. Thanks again, Nick and Sarah ❤💛💚
I am Portuguese, now living in the USA. Real Estate agents in Portugal have always had a bad reputation, but it is improving. The industry is becoming more professional. Today there are younger, more educated and knowledgeable people becoming agents. That being said, there are still some bad apples out there. My dad used to say, "when you lose, don't lose the lesson". I'm happy to hear that you're not giving up. And it's great that you're helping others avoid what happened to you. ❤🇵🇹
It's been a wonderful lesson and the best mistakes to learn from are ones others make so it's a pleasure to pass on this information.
We also work with very honest and lovely agents and they do the same as you described.
Thanks for commenting and supporting our channel 💛❤️💚🇵🇹
Your dad was right!
Overselling probably...and disputes over lands it's a big problem here there is chance that the person's that sold you that land actually believe it's theirs, don't ever buy anything without all the correct paperwork, and the accompany drawing certifying what you are buying...
Now relax and go to a lawyer, state your case and get your money back... It's not like the people that sold you the house could have disappeared...
The entire rural areas in Portugal are a mess form an article perspective. the sate of abandonment the land arrived at created many of this problems... but with patience you will get there.. AKA it might not be malice juts overselling based on doubt..
Frist step go to the city conservatory and figure out the articles around your house... Good luck...
When you buy always check the plans (caderneta) of the property and if it agrees with what people say. There are dishonest people everywhere and do not think this is happening because you are not Portuguese. I am Portuguese and my own brother and sisters did something similar to me.
I'm Portuguese, in 2011 I bought a piece of land. A year later the former owner filed a lawsuit against me claiming that I had cheated him and wanted the land back. We went to court, he lost the case. To this day he has never paid me court fees. He seemed to be the most honest and humble person on the face of the earth.
At least you can take comfort in the knowledge you are a kind, honest and decent human being
I went to Montenegro looking for property in 2006, about three years after the property market started to move. I was warned early on by a lawyer that many foreign buyers were being scammed by the sellers.
They all saw how seafront land went from €25,000 per 500sqm to €500,000 in the space of three years that they all went crazy trying to sell even junk at ridiculous prices. By the time I got there all the good stuff had been sold to the Russians and a lot of Russian builds were on the land registry's website to be demolished at owners cost. The Russians went too far with destroy Montenegro's seafront land.
Many, who were selling their property, were only part owners of it, still others were being sold non zoned land as zoned for residential property this lot lost a lot of money. With me, every time I went to see a property and they saw I was a foreign buyer they would close to double the price. I found them very friendly but shady people. In the end I didn't dare buy anything.
I’m very sorry to hear that. What advice would you give after this experience? How can someone prevent this? Thank you
@@aeseven594 I think that before writing the deed you should confirm that the square meters that are on the paper are the same as what you were told verbally.
I also think that It is good to have a solicitor or a lawyer help and clarify all questions you may have.
Question: is there a way to have the court attach or levy fees collectable through the system to force payment of these outstanding fees you are owed?
Hi Nick, thank you for continuing to be authentic, honest and transparent in your vlogs while facing incredibly disappointing news. I am sure everyone can feel your frustration and disappointment and will be supporting you as you seek answers. Focus on putting your energy into finding a solution rather than dwell on mistakes or blaming yourselves. Stick with it as there are nearly 3k people rooting for you to get answers and a solution. Keep your chin up, hold on to your dreams and put the coffee machine on.
Well, that's told me in a clear, concise and loving statement. Muito obrigado amigo, I will do exactly as you command ❤💛💚
Don’t you dare go back to the Uk Nick! It’s an other hurdle in live you have to get over, don’t let it knock you down 🤗
Ghost towner, agreed with you... If you decided to leave Cornwall or GB than why go back if you said you consider to buy off your neighbors in earlier video than use that money to startover at Portugal or use it to get back your rights, dont let those scamer go scot free and they will just do the same to another poor soul.. Get your estate agent and lawyer to be responsible for this mistake as you paid good hard earn money to them.
We fight on brother Jasper ❤✊❤
@Lisa Marie what doesn't kill you makes you stronger 💪
Hi Nick, we have an amazing lawyer if you need her details. She is in Gois and a beast. Don't give up brother. Please, let us know if we can help in anyway. I'm so sorry you guys are going through this. You and Sarah are such inspirational people, please keep going!
Thank you, as always you make us smile 💚💛❤
I'm so sorry you have been duped. I thought the lawyer representing you would investigate to ensure the tittle to the property was clear. It is a good lesson for me because I've been looking to buy a house so I'll check with the registry of deeds... not long ago I contacted the owner who had listed his house in Algarve. The announcement showed a pool and a little garden. I went to see the house and there was no pool. The owner used pictures of the neighbors' pool. He was British and really turned me off when he pointed to the houses around and with disdain said they were all Portuguese. I replied "of course, this is Portugal." His arrogance was insulting. There was nothing wrong with the house, it was a village house with small rooms but the wife said it was too big for them. They had bought the house 2 years earlier. The market was going down as due to Brexit too many British were going back home and selling.. On another instance I made all the arrangements to see a house but the agent, an English woman, refused to provide the address. She was ready to take my money to secure the sale, I couldn't see it because I was in Boston, but I wanted my brother and sister in law to see it for me. She refused to provide the address so I told her she could meet with my brother and sister in law. My brother called her and the number had been disconnected. A Portuguese agent quoted a price of 900 thousand euros for a house worth no more than 300 .. scum artists all around.
@@zairoart I'm going to do an interview with someone who catalogues these types of things. We have also heard of houses being advertised with the wrong pictures, I don't know how these people sleep at night to be honest.
Best of luck with your journey 💛💚❤
Hi guys! Would you please give me the contact of this person in Gois? I am struggling to find someone. Thanks a lot. Keep up the good and harf work! All the best!
Can you supply details of him / her please?
I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you. I literally just put up a video about how my family were deceived too 😔 and tbh if it wasn't for the fine locals and Portugese friends I've made, I would have been back in the UK now. I'm off to see my attorney tomorrow. Things will work out in the end for you I really believe that. My family have been in Portugal a year today and it does get easier I promise.
Many thanks and yes, it seems it happens a lot here which is sad. I think I have found a solution which involves not having to get embroiled in a toxic battle, I'll try and explain tomorrow ❤💛💚
This is another aspect: getting difficult things sorted out in Portugal seems to be possible only via friends or legal proceedings (which take ages).
Hi Nick! I am sorry to hear about what happened to you regarding the land sale. As a Portuguese lad living in the UK I am ashamed of the people that weren't honest with you when they've sold the land. Unfortunately this kind of things do not happen only with foreigners living in Portugal, sometimes this kind of situation happen with Portuguese people as well. Portugal is a beautiful place to live, with a lot of decent and good people always available to help the next door neighbor, etc. But I can say that at the same time can be very difficult to deal with some bullshit (sorry for my expression) that we are never expecting to happen. If your heart tells you to give up on Portugal I can't blame you, but I hope you can find some strength inside of you to go over this situation and give Portugal a second chance! All the best!
Hello David, I'm trying to find the time to respond to all the comments, I think the next video we do will go some way to explain my disappointment, we are going to stay and sort it out and feel like we are out of the darkness now. Thanks for your comments, it has helped tremendously to know we are not alone, muito obrigado ❤💛💚
I'm intrigued... Did the lawyer not provide you with a copy of the land registry declaration on your property? If they have not done their job correctly then you may have a claim against their Professional indemnity insurance. Just a thought and sorry to hear your story.
Yes I have dealt with 3 realtors so far in Portugal and I have been disappointed with all of them. They didn't disclose the proper information that I should have been aware off. The first one rented me a sh--ty apartment with the fuse going off each time I turned the heater on. The landlord didn't want to return the deposit after 6 months when I was fully entitled to leave that bad property. The second one didn't speak one word of foreign language and didn't disclose that there was no heater. Anyway, they didn't even care or know the apartments they were renting They just wanted to make the deal and earn their commission. After that, they didn't know me anymore. Not professional at all. I would even say 'crooks'...
How awful for you. I’ve heard of people being duped by shady realtors and unscrupulous locals . I hope you stay on and fight back,surely they have laws in Portugal that have been violated here and the courts should certainly take a dim view of these practises too.
Don't see it as a mistake... It's a lesson learned, it's a gift.
I love Portugal, I was born there, but it is incredibly corrupt and every time I have gone back to try to establish myself I was sabotaged, whether by lawyers, people with no vested interest gatekeeping me from legitimate information, or even family. Perhaps it was because I am half American and have struggled with the language but whatever. Portugal is very bucolic but people will see you as a target unless you show them you have the money to defend yourself in a very litigious and archaic legal system
That's dropping some local legitimate shade Andre?
Much appreciated...
seems that most people maybe leaving their own dwellings in one country, just to find the same nonsense abroad.
My heart is hurting with yours, truly. That "lawyer" must really explain what he has done on your behalf. Please have some very deep breaths and take care of yourself and Sarah, you are going to need strength, whatever you decide to do. I would not like to see you leaving this country and I believe those "people" would do that to anyone, british or portuguese or whatever.
Many thanks Ana, your kind words help.
We are OK and will get through this and find a solution and stay and give our all for Portugal 💚💛❤
When you a property in Portugal you see a copy of the predial before you sign anything this document shows the boundaries and the buildings and wells etc so you can see exactly what you are buying, you then sign a promissory document and give 10 percent up front before finalising the deal, if you have an agent and solicitor they will ensure that the title is clear of any debts, otherwise you will inherit them, the final document is read to you in English by the notary before payment is made by law.
Hi Nick. We've been watching you from the beginning. Don't give up - the house and view from your house will be amazing. We've lived in four European countries and had really bad experiences in Italy and Spain with our employers when we were younger. We came back and wish we hadn't. When these things happen it is always tempting to go back immediately, instead of sorting them out. Now it's harder for us to get out without Freedom of Movement and we would have had other options to stay in both countries if we'd been calmer. Remember what it's like here and how you felt before.
Being Portuguese who lives in the UK ,i am ashamed that someone did this to you guys !!! Its in the Register what you bought , things aren't that simple to cheat .If you payed for a piece of land that after all doesn't belong to you ,then someone is gonna pay for , we have laws to protect people , your lawyer needs to do his job , and check what is in the Register !!!!! Unbelievable !! Stay strong an put your Lawyer to work !!!!!
Nick needs to get a new lawyer. Is there malpractice rules for lawyers in Portugal?
IF YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY A REAL ESTATE AGENT, THEN, POST THEIR NAME IN THE DESCRIPTIVE IN YOUR VIDEOS...SO, THAT OTHERS CAN STEER AWAY FROM THEM...EXPOSE THE SCAM & THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO DO IT AGAIN...AND, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD SUE THESE PEOPLE...I AM SURE YOU KNOW TO DO THAT...;)
the general public have a right to know who these snakes are.
You have to be very careful publicly naming and shaming in Portugal. They have pretty harsh laws to 'protect' against defamation.
Nick, your reaction is absolutely understandable BUT if you give up before exploring all avenues you'll always regret it.
From the comments, there are people supporting you.
Strength to you both! This dream is worth fighting for.
Don't give up, there are many good people and many people who are shallow and small minded, take care and Stand Firm, Peace from da UK
Muito obrigado, we are standing strong and moving forward with our journey ❤💚💛
I hope some of the people below don't add more to your heartbreak. Some comments are super ill advised. I can't imagine how it is to save and get a treasure only to be told the treasure is not wholly yours. Just know, there are people who stand with you and also that the person that mentioned a legal fund has a great idea.
Also stuff happens in crazy ways, that you only happened to talk to a neighbor who all along knew you were strimming another's land and she finally brought that up. That in turn led you to find this out. Providence, serendipity, whatever it was, I am glad it happened sooner rather than later. Later when you would have had even more invested in every which way.
Much love to you and Sarah.
I gave ur vlog a 👍 for support. Even though I'm disappointed & sad for whats happened. Some dream's are worth fighting for. Hang in there.
Heartbroken for you guys over the dupe!! When we bought our place here in SW France, we were given a copy of the official boundary plot. It has a number on it. Please, please do not give up your dream, I am sure that it has all left a bitter taste, but you and Sarah have come this far and are clearly a strong couple. Keep moving forward and doing up the house regardless, while you wait to find out exactly what has happened here. Never, ever let the bad people of this world steal your joy or dreams.....
I'm really sorry this has happened. Don't rush back to the UK, you're both starting a new chapter in life, a new adventure. There may be some way to resolve this. Chin up.
Just trying to help others not make the same mistake. And right now I don't wanna be in either place 😕
Nick, you should stick to Portugal and get this over and continue to do some work on your place, maybe not expensive stuff but at least make your living there enjoyable and fun. You already in the warm water so enjoy it and dont let those scamer have the double joy of scaming your hard earned money and your mental strength.. Chin up nick..
Please, please, to all foreigners that are caming to Live in portugal and bying something, please Don,t do business without having a portugueses person that you trust to help you in what you are bying, this what i have Just heard from this Man chocked me, so please listen to what he whent thru , and dont fall
After I watched this I couldn’t sleep because I felt so bad for you! Please remember that you wanted to own your own house so think hard before you leave it all behind! When you’re given lemons just make lemonade. It’s a beautiful area and you can do wonders with your home and the area you do own. Getting away from England was your wish. I’m from Northern California and would love to live where you live now. Please think really hard about it. I love your sense of humor and watching you restore your home. The outside shower is great. I hope to see you both again❤️🥰🙏🏼
So sorry to hear this Nick! 😢 I’m sure you can get it sorted. Please don’t give up! If the seller misrepresented what you were purchasing there has to be a legal avenue for recourse. We love following your videos, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Great advice and so sorry you had to learn this the hard way.
We’re in the same boat. 🐭 🏡 We certainly can’t afford to buy a house in Canada and even buying something in Portugal we’re looking for something we can fix ourselves.
Would love the chance to meet up with you and Sarah in the new year to celebrate you guys overcoming this hurdle. 🍾 🥂
You can do this!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I’m sooo sorry, you where so ready to get going, I really enjoyed watching your videos 😬, wishing all the best .
Sorry to hear about this, I heard about a Portuguese guy bought a house and what he thought was the land where the house stood, but apparently he only purchased the house not the land, don't give up those people need to give u back the money you paid, there are rules and laws
Please do not feel ashamed and stupid … this was not your fault … please speak with your solicitor … see if anything can be redeemed from this …
… you have your health and a wonderful boss lady … together you will get through this … this is more important than anything … but don’t give up !!! Parameters may have changed , you’ll adapt to this and make new dreams … I really feel for both of you at this time … ☘️🙏😘
Yeah, and if your solicitor can't help, give your 5000 viewers their name so we sure as hell avoid them!!! Then, get a new one.
Honestly, if your lawyer was not able to do the only thing that he was hired for, that is verifying the cataster and ownership of the land, then you should sue your lawyer.
Oh man, what a heart breaking ton of bricks. Hope your lawyer can find a way for you to recover.
They have a lot to answer for, but my brother keep strong you have been working like a beast and you will definitely get to the bottoms of this. I know its a huge back step back but I believe justice will prevail. I’m sure of a positive outcome mate.
My heart goes out to you both, sickening that this has hurt you so badly and crushed your spirit. At the minute you can’t see a way out, I’d be the same. Time may tell you to alter the dream, work with your land and view at the back. Build your workshop on the piddly 300 feet strip. It still has everything you both want, it’s got a black cloud over it just now but you can’t buy what you have there over here, it’s out of reach. Sarah and you are resilient, strong together, let’s hope you can salvage sanity and dream and come out the other end. Sending buckets of kindness, now go have a good bubble and wake up wiser and happy to ring my neck for this piece of advice. Jenny x
Sounds a bit like Spain . . . So, nobody consulted any ordinance survey maps in the buying process? Like, before you sign, boundaries marked clearly by both sides and understood by all? I mean how else would you do it?
Hey Nick, don't give up. You are one of the good guys who are an inspiration to us all. You have lots of subscribers who, I am sure feel the same. Find out what can be done to go after them, to at least attempt to get the money for the 'missing land' back from them. I for one would chip in to help with your costs. We purchased ours having completed all of the checks with the Camara. Not everyone is out to get you, but you still have to keep your wits about you.
Many thanks Paul, yes, we are going to try and buy the different articles of land now. Thank you for your kind offer
Don’t give up, your Channel is great and you will succeed, rise up and show them what you are made of, best wishes from sunny Ireland
Thank you so much!
I'm so sorry to hear your plight. I hope that you can resolve all of the issues that you face. Don't give up on moving to Portugal even if you decide to sell this place, look for another. Take care and don't lose heart.
Oh, no!!!, so very sorry this happened to you!
Please keep patient and steady as you are doing. Can't blame you for your feelings, i'm sure many of us would feel the same.
Yes, some proper rest will help you push your reset button so you both can decide with clear minds. Your property in Portugal, your hard work rehabilitating it, and your dreams are absolutely worth your and Sara's vision for your future.
Beaming you wishes for the very best snd cheering for you! Thank you bravely and kindly putting forth this warning. --Ruth
I'm so sorry this happened, Nick. I hope this is not the end of your journey in Portugal. We need more people like you here
Muito obrigado Pedro! Nothing will stop us from following our dream and we are committed to your beautiful country, thank you for having us amigo ,💛💚❤️🇵🇹
Oh I hope you can get it made right. I hate it that you have been treated this way. I hope there is something that can be done please try to stay strong and don’t give up if you can. Sending good vibes from the U.S.
I gotta hand it to you, you are doing great considering what you have been thru. You did not even lose your sense of humor. Thank you for your videos.
Thank you Ali for watching them, and commenting and your kind words, it's really appreciated amigo ❤️💚💛🇵🇹
We love watching your videos and we sat down to watch another not expecting this horrendous news that you and Sarah are going through at this moment, I believe there has to be an explanation and definitely has to be corrected by your lawyer after all that’s exactly why he/she was hired to do, I truly believe it’s all going to work out and even better situation in the end, I must say I think Teresa the neighbour, was a god sent because I could imagine this being a lot worse believe it or not because you could of found out only when the neighbours lands were sold, they would of asked you if you were interested to buy their land you would of declined thinking you had enough land already and then it would of been more complicated (I think) and the million dollar (euro) question where is the rest of the land you bought !!!!!!!!
Nick I REALLY feel it will all work out, (hope you don’t mind this silly humour) it’s too hot to work on the house right now soooo go show that what ever happened needs to get solved cause you are going to expose everyone who is guilty and you are not going away so they need to FIX it and FIX it NoW grrrrrrr!!!! Sending you both lots of love, patience and peace from 🇨🇦🇵🇹
That's horrendous news, I hope your lawyer can get to the bottom of this.
Hi Nick, just found your videos, I hope things were resolved in your benefit and I hope you didn’t give up! Will continue to watch and find out. Be well.
I really feel for you and your wife. Hope things did get better for you both and you are happy and healthy living your best life in Portugal. Thank you for posting!
Thank you, things did get better, have got better 💛💚❤
Just watched this, I hope things have picked up and you are living your Portugal dream. Valuable info for those considering similar. I'm visiting Lagos for a holiday next week so it's all interesting. Best wishes mate.
I'm so sorry this happened to you! We are going to be purchasing in the near future, and this was very educational.
My brother also had loads of issues, being massively overcharged by multiple people in his journey to buy a home. The attitude that everyone is rich and can afford being overcharged, or that it's ok to dupe people is gross. It's not everyone, but it's too often an occurrence. Sadly, just because people are nice to you, doesn't mean that they won't rip you off.
Again, I'm so sorry this happened to you. Please accept the help of others and stay in Portugal! Looking forward to watching the happy ending to this! 💖💕
Thank you and the very best of luck to you and your brother
Nick, sorry for your dilemma. Thank you for sharing. You are a brave and honest man. Good luck and the view of the mountains and the clear blue skies are glorious beyond price.
Muito obrigado amigo 💚❤️💛🇵🇹
Really gutted for you - that's awful news. I can absolutely see how it would make you feel rotten and want to pack it all it, but I hope you stay and get through it. If you ever want to meet up for a coffee and a chat (or share exasperation about gammons in either country - we're up for that too!) then let us know - Coimbra's only half an hour away from us. Fingers crossed for you that things improve - let us know if there's anything we can do to help.
Don't give up it will work out 👍🏽💯 hang in there and stay strong ☹️
This type of skulduggery is also prevalent in Greece. I visited Greece a few years ago and I bumped into a retired English couple in Greece who had been completely shafted, long story short, the Seller pocketed all the money and with the lawyers they denied that there was a sale, The elderly couple were devastated because they had lost a large portion of their savings with no recourse to getting it back. Sad Tale indeed.
That's awful, I hope they made peace with it as it's the best thing you can do
Thank you for sharing that info. I will definitely reconsider my plans now.
The real estate person and lawyer sold you something that they shouldn't sell you. It's their job to make sure what's is the legal papers is legal to sell you.
This is the reason why you hired a lawyer and Realtor... Someone mess up big time .
I am so sorry Nick. I hope you can get this sorted and still follow your dream. It takes guts to do what you and Sarah have done so far so I am sure you will win this fight. Sending lots of love from UK XXX
I’m so sorry for this. I do hope you continue you let us know how things are going and what you decide to do. I’ve enjoyed your story thus far, but this is a sad state of affairs.
I’m not from Europe or the Uk, so excuse my question. But is the land not surveyed before a sale so you know exactly where your land boundaries are? Where I’m at this must happen before anything can be sold.
Hey Nick, saw your latest Vlog and I'm so sorry and it's such a shame for you and Sarah. However, please don't give up comrade. You've done some great work on your plot and hopefully if you were to talk to the neighbours they would take a sympathetic view of the current situation. I'm also with you in terms of "Ex pat" BS.
Go take yourself off somewhere for a day or two. Don't make any hasty decisions comrade. Weigh up the costs of going back to pariah Island or buying the 2 parcels of land. Keep your chin up Nick. Hopefully see you soon. Lá lucha continua!!!
Nice one brother James ❤
I'm sorry to hear your news, don't give up fella fight them all the way and make sure someone pays !!!! All the best.
I just subbed as I feel this easily could have happened to my husband and I. We’re medical people, not attorneys or surveyors, please know I’m sending prayers your way.
Is it possible to get a guaranteed survey done before the purchase? I am assuming you paid cash; would have getting a mortgage been possible, and would that have given you some protect (again assuming the lender would protect their interests)? I am actually thinking about buying some property in either Portugal or Italy, and never thought there could be a swindle of buying property - because there are several safeguards that we are accustomed to in the US. We have guaranteed surveys, title insurance that not only protects you from scenarios like you are experiencing, but also of prior encumbrances. I feel for you, and good luck!
Thanks Bill, youre kind to say these things. Id suggest finding a decent lawyer and an honest agent, ask for a full topographical survey before you sign and youll be absolutely fine.
you see, the best mistakes to learn from are the ones other people make, its easy to avoid this, we were just naïve, best of luck and if you need any advice give us a shout.
Very helpful video and I’m sorry to hear about what happened. Good luck going forward!
Thanks Dylan 💚♥️💛
Hi Nick don't give up we got stitched up with some land on the island of Corfu, we love the place so made it work for us and you can too.
This is where we are too John, we are making it work.
Thank you 💚💛❤
Please stay! Your lawyer obviously didn't do her homework because she should have got the drawings from the camera for you to look at before you signed. I think your neighbour Theresa is worth her weight in gold and your plan to buy plots from your other neighbours is a good one. The weather, the views and the good people you've met are what will help to get your optimism back. Big hugs and all the best!
Can understand the seller and the estate agent being dishonest, but am surprised about the lawyer. Hopefully she was duped like you. If so, maybe she can help to put things right.
Sorry to hear this, hopefully you can sort it out 🤗. Now we are wondering if we are not in the same bucket. I need to check 🤷♂️
First, thank you for the warning, and I am sorry for your story. Yes, I read all of these stories and mistakes, and yet, it seems that even if i want to make sure all of this, there are so many expats simply snatching properties - they honestly don't care and say: "it will be ok" so one like me simply don't have the time to check everything in 1-2 days and also, find out everything about everything. once again, thank you on one side, but feel sorry for your story and hope i'm not the next one in line to be ripped off.
Hi Nick ,I’m Portuguese and I fill very ashamed for what they did to you , but don’t give up get a few days to relax and get help from a solicitor
Good grief Nick, my heart goes out to you, I'm glad you posted this as I have been considering moving from usa,
It was my mistake Wayne, don't let my mistake put you off 👌
I am wondering, if you may have video'd the conversation with the sellers/estate agents and whether what they pointed out to you at the time, might be on the video?
OMG I can't believe this happened! You absolutely have to fight it or else others will get shafted as well. How about a crowd fund campaign to pay for legal fees? If 2.8k subscribers gave £10 or 10 euros each you'd have about 30k which is more than enough to pay for legal fees. Depending on how much those two houses cost behind you that own the land, you will probably be able to get enough money to buy them too! Hope you can get through this. Wishing you strength and good luck whatever you decide to do.
I support this idea. Start a gofundme campaign. I'd definitely pitch in.
Me too
I’m in!!! Just send the link👍🏾
Ready to help . Can get over this via crowd funding.
Me too... been kinda in your position so all in to help a fellow human 🙏💛
How are you and Sarah doing? Hopefully there is some recourse of this travesty! You are in my prayers. God bless you both!
Great video, thank you! Please don’t think you are any of those negative things you said. I have heard of this happening to people in countries across the world! Your video will HELP people, so thanks again!
Oh noooooo that is awful I’m so sorry
Don’t give up please that’s what the nasty people want
🙂
I so agree!
Have seen this video from a year ago only today, sounds very grim and upsetting the way you were tricked, I really hope you were able to get compensation and have been able to put this behind you. I know similar if not worse stuff can happen in Spain, moving out of one's own country into an unknown environment is always going to be more challenging I think that applies to anywhere in the world.
For the locals we have "mug " written in large letters on our foreheads, but hey you have proved to be resilient ! Good luck for the future,
Thank you Marianne, all is well now and we have come to peace with the situation.
We've started to buy back the articles of land, it took all our savings but we are pleased we can help others avoid the same mistake so in a way it's been worthwhile 👌
Hi Nick, dont give up, at least fight for your right. Your money is not easy to earn and save so dont give up, fight to the end and have justice done. Your perseverance will sure to be rewarded. You seem very happy with the place and the beautiful sceneries so fight for a good place. Keep up your spirit, a lot of us are all for you. Cheer up and chin up and go get those scamer...
Sorry buddy!! 😲.. like others in the comments are saying - Have some time to stew, then don’t give up - something good will come from this - you’re in love with that place & it loves you!!
wondering if you have any updates? Did you stay? Could You have has the land surveyed before buying?
Just wow. We're in the US (for now) and this is why we're forced into title insurance with a bank loan. I feel terrible for you. Surely there has to be some sort of remediation available? One thing to note, seems like you're starting to get a pretty good viewership going. I can definitely tell you I'm watching every YT Portugal "we bought in Portugal" video I can before we make the leap. 5,000 people watching YOU may be doing the same. Use that as leverage, when you determine precisely who let you down. The Attorneys? The RE Agency? I guarantee if (and I hope you do) you continue the channel, and communicate to your viewership who did the stinker on you, we will definitely avoid these stinkees when and if we move to join you there! USE your base of 5,000 interested viewers! That is a lot of people who might say "nope, we'll avoid that agency like the plague". You might be very surprised to see what sort of results might suddenly open up for you when you mention this. The Portuguese government is actively seeking investment and is trying like hell to offset their population decline (and tax base) with immigration. The last thing they want is fat Canadians like me to hear about your type of nightmare when I'm deciding what country to retire in. I sincerely hope you get to an amicable resolution! If you have to buy back property, there's always GoFundMe! I'm sure the Portuguese govt would hate to see the headline " Ripped off Brits forced to GoFundMe campaign due to "...
OMG, you Canadians have that Trudeau and that other guy strangling your country. Good luck in that socialist paradise.
Hi there, it is a tough one, for sure. As with Rui bellow, you should get the agent and lawyer and file a formal commplain with the national estate agency. try not to let them get away with it. wish I could be there to try help you to sort it out. I will try get in tch with a friend that might know the right and legal way to go about it
I have sent an email to my friend in Portugal and will let you know what he says. if you like you can get in touch via email ( arturfsrama@gmail.com). regards
@Conceição Reis I think that this is the most likely explanation so far. Up to now we have the word of a neighbour who only knows what she thinks that she knows, in other words there is nothing to back up what she has said without making the proper checks. And it wouldn't be the first time that others have laid claim to what is not there's because nobody was there to question their actions. This would be the best case scenario.
On the other hand, there is the word of an advogado, and a real estate agent, none of whom could really believe that if this was indeed a scam it wouldn't come to light at some stage, and very likely, very quickly. Which leads me to believe that the lawyer was not complicit.
That leaves the estate agent...not known as one of the dodgiest professions on earth for nothing. The sheer volume of people selling land in Portugal speaks volumes, there are few watchdogs and much money to be made. A few good ones amongst them, but the only person who can vouch for what the agent told you is you.
If that crucial moment when the agent told you where your boundaries lay was only between the two of you, and you didn't follow up on it, then everybody else involved simply carried out the transaction outlining the true boundaries.
This sounds judgemental...it certainly isn't, I'm just trying to break it down to it's bare bones without clouding things with anger etc, so that you can maybe see where you need to focus your attention regarding your retort.
Your channel my friend is a joy to follow and I feel genuinely hurt by what has happened to two people that I have come to sort of know (as much as one can come to know somebody on here) I hope that you can put this episode behind you and hope that the open wound that it is right now eases with the passage of time. Being trusting and a "good person" who doesn't see bad in everybody is not a fault. Making YOUR world a darker place by looking upon everybody with suspicion would be a travesty for two such life grabbing, fun loving "doers", because you are most definitely doing it! You have identified your dream and made it happen...and with lovely warm humour too, that you have brought into the lives of almost 3k people.
Although this is definitely a setback, I believe that you and Sarah will sort this out and go forward with the dream that has taken you this far. A scumbag estate agent can mess with your dream, but he can't take it away unless you let him. (Easy to say I know) but I don't want you to go.
Thank you so much for your video. You've given me more buyer beware information in twenty minutes than I've received from anyone else. I'm looking at property in Portugal to escape the exorbitant healthcare costs in the US. I thought having a lawyer would ensure everything is on the up and up, now I know better. I hope you were able to get your money back.
It was our mistake and something got lost in translation along the way, we are at peace with our own cock up and moving forward, best of luck with your escape ❤️
I advise you to bring with you a J.Wayne's Winchester to deal with any office and lawyers in any bantustan (like Portugal and any East: postCommunist, Asia, Africa, S.America state); only a little better in US or Canada (my above experience; I know other "stories" and Lawyers Mafia-like likes such govs laws; in my other case I had to hire FBI/RCMP as Police refused to help me when post_Communits gangster in govs was disrupting my phone conversations as I had some legal issues with devils there (in Warsaw).
Nick my heart broke when I watched this. You and Sarah are two very beautiful souls and don't deserve this injustice. I hope you and Sarah can work this out to get this resolved.🧡💛🤗 If you think the Brexiteers are Xenophobic, you should come to the southern US. How can people who are so ignorant be so arrogant?
Oh, I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope you’ll be able to buy,at a good price, the land you want.
Sorry to here but you have to keep moving forward
You will get though this
This is your dream you will find a way though this
Stay positive
Dear Nick, I am so so sorry that you are going through this horrible experience. It is completely normal to go through all the feelings that you are going through. You will sort it out and someone below said “ move forward and look at solutions. If not, sell it and look for another. Don’t go back to the UK. Keep us posted since we have enjoyed every one of your videos. Big hug to you from Pensacola, Florida.
Thank you Angelica, this was last year and it really painful and we have found the easiest solution was to buy the bits of land back!
It took our savings but was worth it in the end as we are clawing it back and didn't take up any energy and time in a horrible leagal battle where the only winners are lawyers.
Thanks for your kind words, we are still here fighting on 👌
Nick, I realized very quickly this had taken place months ago. Apologies. But I am thrilled to know that you managed to have the money to buy the land. Fencing it now will prevent from future problems. Good luck to y’all including your sister.
It should be responded by European Parliament that changes in a Mo speed should be done to legally bind every country do you ownerships of real estate must pass a notary and land register office.
I feel your pain ☹️😡🤬. Take some time out. But don’t give up on your dreams 🙏🏾❤️
Dont be broken ! Pick up yourself brush off your knees and be an ambassador to others that want to come there to live. You now have a weapon to help others from being scammed.
Learn all you can!
Use this experience to learn this field and become an expert to start a business.
Learn who the good ,bad, and ugly are and warn others about them.
I believe things like this happen for a reason to be put to good.
OMG... what a horrible situation to find yourself in. I bought in Italy back in 2008, never got it, years of court stress to get, so far 40 % of my deposit back. Don't give up yet but l guess, when 'the true owners' hear you MAY buy you can be sure the price will change!! What came of the meeting over the other piece of land you were telling us about? I feel sorry for both you and Sara and pray something good comes out of this. Be strong 🙏
Thank you for posting ... It takes guts to get over it
Ohhhhhhh, so sorry for this trouble! Please don't pack up and go back to the UK. You still have a wonderful plot of land with a house and a gorgeous view!!!!! And you already have said how you like it there. Please follow the tips others have left. I am sure not all is lost. There will be something good to come of this I am sure! We are all rooting for you ! Please keep posting! We are tied to your journey whatever it is.
Small town are prone to this kind of errors, because the notary hasn't even been there, you just need to check with the land registry. i hope you didn't pay more than 50k for that and if you paid more that it is urban land. because most of the time this houses are in rural land and can't be legally built upon. you can fix it but the land is agricultural and due to some legacy they are legal now. just remember agricultural land has almost no value. so that plot of land you should have not worth more than 10k if agricultural.
I am of Portuguese origin, living in Canada, .( born in Madeira island) Oh my gosh, I am so sorry this has happened to you! I agree wth you Nick trust no one!!! Lawyer couldn't have been very good!!!
Don’t let them grind you down.Keep living the dream.Life and people can be cruel at times but you can overcome these problems.Good luck.
Where are all the videos with Paula gone to? Searching brings no results have they all been taken down for some reason??
Come on does anyone have an answer??
You should never give up anything you want you will have to fight for please don't give up... through good times and bad you have our support
I have no advice, you've made the move, you know better than most, I have total respect for what you have done. You know what you have to do next and I'm sure you'll follow what's right.
I'm so sorry this has happened to you Nick💔 I hope things work out for you and the solicitor pulls through for you.
Sarah n Nick....so sad to hear of this situation. Please don't give up. Prayers for you 🙏