A Disused Railway Line Under the Hills

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  • čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
  • In this video we explore a disused railway line that runs under the hills in Saddleworth, Oldham near Manchester. We actually explore an old railway tunnel. Its called the Butterhouse tunnel. On this urban exploration Urbex video we look at the old Micklehurst loop line an abandoned tunnel on its route and look at the course of the now disused railway the Micklehurst loop line. This tunnel runs deep underground and at the end is a massive fill in of spoil.
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  • @TRAMJUNCTION7147HG
    @TRAMJUNCTION7147HG Před 5 lety +16

    Many lines throughout the country were closed after the 1922 grouping of the big four LMS, LNER, GWR & Southern. Before then the many different railway companies competed against each other for goods and later, passenger traffic and built their own independent lines, to try and compete with each other. That is why so many lines ran alongside each other and went in the same direction from one place to another. Once they were grouped into the four regions, many of the older or longer route lines were abandoned such as this one going across the Pennines from Manchester to Huddersfield/Leeds. There was no need for two lines running side by side when one could manage and cost much less to run and maintain. Thus the old Butterly Tunnel route was closed, as many others did across the country. Then during the sixties after the railways were nationalised, along came good old Dr Beeching who closed hundreds of non paying branch lines. After the war, the railways were pretty run down and the aim was to do away with steam and all its costly infrastructure and replace it with diesel trains and later as we see today, modern electrics. Luckily we have the railway preservationists who have managed to save many old closed lines and more steam locos than anywhere else in the world. After all it was Britain that invented the railway, and the steam engine and led the world in everything from engineering, ship building, manufacturing and mining. Now look at Britain today, we have nothing, compared to what our forefathers created, except reflections of the past of such a great nation. We might live in a modern age of computers and mobile phones, but our past must never be forgotten its what made Britain GREAT!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +4

      Yes its all fascinating stuff. The infrastructure of a bygone era

  • @NoirKitsune
    @NoirKitsune Před 5 lety +10

    I don't know how I came across these videos but I'm actually very glad I did.... subscribed!

  • @GabryJ84
    @GabryJ84 Před 4 lety +1

    I am watching your videos since a while and I can say that it is surprising how careful they were not to leave a single trace of railway equipment. I believe that these bolts you found have been a big surprise for you. There are no signs of abandoned sleepers, track stumps, not to talk about wing signaling or cable residues. Very thorough clean-up after dismission. Here in Italy even after dismantling you can always find some plaques, hinges, collars, insulators (if it was powered), pieces of signaling equipment. It seems that in the UK these operations have been very accurate and I believe that most if not all of the recovered materials were destined to scrapyards, so what moved all that accuracy was just money...they must have been really at the end of their rope...

  • @100SteveB
    @100SteveB Před 5 lety +7

    I wish we had decent video cameras back in the early 1980's, some friends and i walked through the old Ventnor Tunnel on the Isle of Wight, we planned to film it using a big bulky VHS camera, one of those where the recorder was separate from the camera. We knew we would need plenty of light so we had made up a massive floodlight that incorporated about 10 car headlamp bulbs set into a massive reflector, we had to lug a car battery down the tunnel in order to power it. The light was fantastic, it lit the tunnel up really well so we could see all the wonderful colours. We could see clearly for at least 50 yards ahead. But sadly it was nowhere near bright enough for that old camera, it picked up nothing that was more than a few feet away. A real shame because i really did want to record the inside. All we got for our efforts was a sore back after having to lug all that heavy gear along the 3/4 mile long tunnel. So its really great to see your efforts were recorded successfully on modern equipment!
    P.S But like you, i also found one of those old track securing screws in the tunnel, i still have it to this day somewhere!

  • @oscaris1ru12
    @oscaris1ru12 Před 5 lety +17

    when the mites go up the tights come down

    • @Denaligirljodie
      @Denaligirljodie Před 4 lety

      DuffyssLuv1 I’ve always remembered it by the G in stalagmite standing for ground and the C in stalactite standing for Ceiling.

  • @antmerritt
    @antmerritt Před 5 lety +5

    Great video Martin cheers. I was taught to remember 'tites come down whilst 'Mites go up! oohEr missus!

  • @georgeedwardscott7159
    @georgeedwardscott7159 Před 5 lety +17

    Martin zero's vids are well done, very informative, well edited and very educational, what's not to love? Amazing guy amazing vids, love it. I don't even live in Manchester lol I've only been their once for a few hours. Still love it tho. Martin zero is the bees kneez , love him.

  • @allansmith4447
    @allansmith4447 Před 4 lety

    excellent Martin as usual...I was a Goods Guard At Guide Bridge from 1968 to 1986 and before the line closed I was the Guard on a lot of trains that took coal along the line for Hartshead PS.

  • @benters3509
    @benters3509 Před 5 lety +6

    Short sighted vandalism. Those lines would be useful today, and certainly in the future. Anyway, this bought back a fond memory for me. Mid eighties working in Manchester at the BBC Studios. We were heavily into "real ale" in those days, and Stayleybridge station had one of its waiting rooms converted into a real ale bar. Arrive on the train, have a few pints, and don't miss the last train home!! Meat pie and black peas for sale in the bar. It did not get much better than that.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +2

      I remember Stalybridge Buffet it was independant and proper old world. Great stuff 👍🏼

    • @anthonykeaveny8860
      @anthonykeaveny8860 Před 5 lety +3

      Until 8 years ago there were trestle tables on the platform outside the Station Pub. You could sit there with a drink and watch the trains.
      One day The Elf called and decided that it was too much fun and Very Dangerous. The pub is still open and a mecca for Rail Buffs . Well worth a visit.

  • @brit_in_bc1661
    @brit_in_bc1661 Před 5 lety +17

    Another great video Martin, I really like the part where you compare the maps side by side.
    Cheer's from Vancouver.

  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe Před 5 lety +11

    Another fantastic vid Martin, far better to be educated and learn rather be entertained by mind numbing commercial TV.
    Those coach screws you found screw the clamps to the sleepers.
    The correct name is a chair.
    The side of the rail contacted the inside jaw of the chair, the outside jaw had a wooden chock driven in to hold it against the inside jaw.?
    It was like a wedge.

  • @lindamccaughey8800
    @lindamccaughey8800 Před 4 lety

    That was fantastic. What a tunnel and brickwork it was so huge. Thanks so much for taking me along. Thanks for the train too just love them

  • @thomream1888
    @thomream1888 Před 5 lety +10

    Hey Martin -
    Great show! I know you've posted this a bit ago, but I've just now found it (and subscribed!). Even though I'm from America, and chances are I'll never get to visit ya, I still find if interesting to see your history.
    And that really slender stalactite hang from the ceiling? We call 'em "soda straws" round here. Cheers from Fresno, California, USA

  • @ninalutgen6244
    @ninalutgen6244 Před 5 lety

    Thank u Martin I love tunnels.i don't want to go in myself but I like watching explorers go in.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks Nina, I love them to 👍

  • @justanotherbobfan
    @justanotherbobfan Před 5 lety +2

    Brilliant.....fascinating......love the old lines......tunnels/bridges/cuttings/canals/buildings/warehouses and the history that surrounds them.
    I live in the south midlands and love to see this stuff from " up north "
    Thanks
    Mick Northampton

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Mick and hello to South Midlands. Bet you have some great stuff down there as well don't you ?

  • @HenrysAdventures
    @HenrysAdventures Před 3 lety

    Brilliant video as always! Love that small tunnel at the begging to!

  • @andrewschmitz9707
    @andrewschmitz9707 Před 5 lety +1

    That was excellent to follow,and the brickwork is beautiful to see. Thanks guys.

  • @FranklyFrankFranking
    @FranklyFrankFranking Před 5 lety +1

    Stockport and Timperly have a really cool abandoned railway line.

  • @andrewphillips9391
    @andrewphillips9391 Před 5 lety +1

    The mist reminds me of a visit to Woodhead 15 years ago. I was by the Manchester bound platform, a couple of hundred yards from the tunnel, and it was a muggy day. Every so often, a blast of freezing cold air would erupt from the tunnel. Very eerie!
    I believe this line was built as part of the project to quadruple the line to provide extra capacity. They had the same problem at the Leeds end (going through a valley) so built a new line there also, the Leeds New Line., also closed in the 60s, when the rest of the line was reduced to 2 tracks.

  • @joelholford859
    @joelholford859 Před 5 lety

    Ha we used to walk through this tunnel as kids, before they filled in and tarted up the Uppermill end. The tunnel had a curve to it and when you were half way through you couldn't see daylight from either opening (we didn't have torches either) - always crapped myself!
    Cheers for the memories..

  • @jontownsend6451
    @jontownsend6451 Před 5 lety +2

    Another great video, thanks again. I never knew this loop line existed, looks like a day of exploration ahead.

  • @kennethainsworth1716
    @kennethainsworth1716 Před 5 lety +7

    Yes, I see the Oldham bound tunnel on the old map, could be worth a look. Just an interesting note about the photo of Stalybridge Station. Sometime in the 60's a cattle train had gone through the station, (on what is now the main line), and at some point on the Mossley side of the tunnel (which is not shown in photo) the coupling broke between 2 rail wagons. This resulted in a few runaway wagons running back through the tunnel towards the station. Fortunately the signalman had set the track points to danger and the runaways derailed into the small freightyard that used to be there, killing and injuring cattle. The injured ones had to be put down. I can remember standing on top of the tunnel looking down on the cattle carnage and cleanup crews trying to get the track clear for passenger trains. There used to be 3 signalboxes at Stalybridge, the one you see in the photo, one straddling the tracks at the station and one where the tracks heading West split into 3 different routes. - one to Ashton , one to Guide Bridge and the other to Dukinfield. Cheers mate just thought I'd pass tgat on.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Kenneth great story. Pity about the poor cattle. I have seen a picture of the Signal box over the tracks at Stalybridge it looks amazing 👌

  • @orlaobrien4329
    @orlaobrien4329 Před 5 lety +2

    Another really great video Martin! Loved learning about this because its so local!!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Orla, was I in your neck of the woods then ?

  • @annahasty7191
    @annahasty7191 Před 5 lety

    Amazing! I can only imagine the work that went into the construction.

  • @peterjohnston2470
    @peterjohnston2470 Před 5 lety +4

    The brick layers must have spent years laying that tunnel. Love the vid.

    • @hiscifi2986
      @hiscifi2986 Před 5 lety +1

      Nah... There were three of them..

  • @EdenValleyAdventuresUK

    That was a great tunnel thank you for filming this gem.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Yeah it was a good little explore

  • @steveowhite4370
    @steveowhite4370 Před 5 lety +2

    great video Martin as always was up at butterhouse tunnel last summer taking some photos.Im a manc but live in Stalybridge now and have walked most of the micklehurst loop great history keep them coming.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Steveo thanks. Is it an interesting walk ?

  • @theovanstaden5766
    @theovanstaden5766 Před 5 lety +1

    thx for showing us all these interesting places around Manchester, big like!!

  • @gamesessions
    @gamesessions Před 5 lety +1

    I remember walking through Gomersal tunnel in West Yorkshire with my mates as a kid and it was really scary at the time, but happy I did it as I think it’s all blocked off now, though one could probably get in with a bit of persistence :)

  • @krisnabolton5962
    @krisnabolton5962 Před 5 lety +1

    Not far from my home. All the steam 'Holiday Specials' were always diverted onto this freight track in the 50s and early 60s. It was a very busy line day and night for the goods, coal and oil trains. Happy days :)

    • @krisnabolton5962
      @krisnabolton5962 Před 5 lety +1

      After the Beaching cuts, they just couldn't wait to close this loop line down. This was a big mistake because it would have come in very useful if the present main line was closed due to accidents etc or indeed if further capacity was required at the present time. In fact this would have been feasible because after going through the original single bore tunnels at Diggle, it would come out at Marsden where there was a four track system up to Huddersfield and Leeds.
      Lets hope this line can be utilised again.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      I remember the Holiday specials in the 80's 😀

    • @krisnabolton5962
      @krisnabolton5962 Před 5 lety +1

      Martin Zero Hi Martin. The Micklehurst loop was built after the present line that is still in service now. The loop line was a very busy line primarily used as a goods line taking coal south from the Yorkshire coal mines towards Manchester and oil from Stanlow to Liversedge West Yorkshire via Stockport. The engines pulling these freight trains were invariably the big beasts like the 2-8-0 WD 8F's or bigger still the 2-10-0 9F's. Their sound at night was unmistakable and distinctive. An experienced train spotter could differentiate between all types of locomotives by the noise they made. Heading east from Stalybridge as a gradient all the way to Marsden and boy did they struggle sometimes with wheels skidding or if they hadn't built up enough steam while stationary at Stalybridge for this purpose. I would lay awake most of the night listening to them and be late for school in the morning. If you wish to see these locos working on the Marsden-Huddersfield section, then look up 'Pennine Steam In The 60's' which is a very good account of the locos in use on both lines to Stalybridge and beyond. I think it could be on CZcams or if you can't find it let me know.
      Keep up the good work buddy. Love all your first class quality videos which are a credit to both you and Conner and much better than watching TV.
      Look forward to the next video :)

  • @cw315
    @cw315 Před 5 lety

    I've been waiting for this one, once again thanks for clearing up the name of the tunnel for me.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hello. Someone also referred to it as Brownhill tunnel But I do think the correct name is Butterhouse Tunnel. Thanks 👍

  • @RM-io7qo
    @RM-io7qo Před 5 lety

    Awesome looking place with such a lot of atmosphere, love it! Take care..

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Yeah it was a great place John. Many thanks 👍

  • @dchalkie
    @dchalkie Před 5 lety +3

    Thanks Martin, another good video 👍

  • @mnshp7548
    @mnshp7548 Před 5 lety +1

    this is probably one of the best abandoned train vids on utube good job id love To go there

  • @faltskog36abba
    @faltskog36abba Před 5 lety

    Brilliant video once again martin and friends. Years ago I followed the route of the micklehurst line and got as far as Mossley. the four fast trans Pennine trains now go through Victoria once again En route to Huddersfield and beyond. There are many interesting former rail routes in our region, One is the Clifton junction to Radcliffe line which is walkable and has some interesting features along the way such as a Clifton viaduct[known locally as the 13 arches] and an old station platform at Ringley road near Radcliffe.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi thats sounds interesting that. I know of the arches but never been there

  • @oddwad6290
    @oddwad6290 Před 5 lety

    As other modes of travel became more popular for folks , the the railways often abandoned passenger service for the more profitable freight . Only profitable lines were kept and the unprofitable ones were often abandoned . Thanks again for another nice video . Hope you can continue to do very well .

  • @SuperRichhead
    @SuperRichhead Před 5 lety

    Another great video Martin and it's good to read the interactions from other subscribers.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thanks Richard. yeah some good info on the Stalagmites

  • @nigelkthomas9501
    @nigelkthomas9501 Před 5 lety +2

    If you want to check another old tunnel out try Gildersome. It was on the former Leeds New Line between Leeds and Birstall.

  • @jayd1974
    @jayd1974 Před 5 lety +1

    Class video once again I do an ale tour a couple times a year get the train from Piccadilly to Huddersfield and we work our way back to Manchester stopping at various laces and having a pint nice picturesque towns👍

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Ahh the ale trail. I believe it’s popularity has made it a nightmare

  • @TheRattyBiker
    @TheRattyBiker Před 5 lety +2

    My geography teacher used to tell us theirs no reason a teenage lad should forget that Stalac"tit"es hang down. Great videos, love the passion you convey in your videos.

  • @AlRaw94
    @AlRaw94 Před 4 lety

    Used to be a regular trip to that tunnel when out on fishing trips up the canal locks, one of the branches off that line up the 'delph donkey' is a nice walk with a few remains of mills from uppermill to delph

  • @deborahburnette1218
    @deborahburnette1218 Před 5 lety +1

    So love your videos. Thank you.

  • @MarkTayloroutdoors
    @MarkTayloroutdoors Před 5 lety +3

    Great video mate, been binge watching a few of your newer videos. Really enjoy them, love the history and excellent production values.
    Dropped you a sub, and you definitely deserve a LOT more mate.
    Thanks for sharing, Atb mark

  • @christopherwhittaker3768

    Superb vid.
    And it's tites hang down mites go up from ground.
    What always gets me in these tunnels and viaducts is the sheer amount of brickwork and labour.
    Watching this today has made me feel like I need to get out more.
    Anyway thanks for the vid and the information given.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hello Christopher. Its a great day out if you know where that is or can get to it. Yeah the Brickwork is another level. Thanks

  • @mikeede49
    @mikeede49 Před 5 lety

    Another good video Martin, what a pity it's been filled in, what a walk that would have been to discover what it's like at the other end.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Mike, yes would have been great to go right through. I would like to see whats left of the old line further down but I think all the interesting bits have gone

  • @MLampner
    @MLampner Před 3 lety

    H Martin, caught up with the current output so going back and seeing some of your earlier adventures. I did note you referring to a stalagtite. If its on the floor climbing its a stalagmite if it descends from a ceiling its a stalactite. I always love in really old caves or tunnels when the meet. Anyway enjoying the videos.

  • @stephencook7311
    @stephencook7311 Před 5 lety

    Another superb video, some of the things in there reminded me of white scar cave in Ingleton in yorkshire, well worth a visit.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Oh yes I have been. A long time ago but brilliant place 👍

  • @GeraldineJayne
    @GeraldineJayne Před 5 lety

    That footpath tunnel is well cool. They used to make these things so aesthetically pleasing in those days. Great video!!!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Geraldine thank you. Yes the footpath tunnels were a nice little extra for us that day. I agree so much charm in them and intrigue !!

    • @GeraldineJayne
      @GeraldineJayne Před 5 lety

      Intrique is such a good word for it. That's exactly what it is about them that lures me in!

  • @paulbarnes8425
    @paulbarnes8425 Před 5 lety

    Another great interesting video Martin of railways long gone.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Paul, yeah this looks like it started running down in the early 1900's

  • @gingerbread6614
    @gingerbread6614 Před 5 lety +1

    We love you. Thank you

  • @eriol_mits3121
    @eriol_mits3121 Před 5 lety +1

    If you go into the centre of Stalybridge even though the Viaduct is long gone you and still access the first tunnel of this loop line. Up a little bit of a bank about 50ft in the air but you can certain climb up. My friends wife pointed this out to me today as I introduce them to your videos on the standedge tunnels and shafts.

  • @Growlertrim
    @Growlertrim Před 5 lety

    My favorite way to start the day is with a new Martin Zero video over breakfast

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      😃 !!!! Tea and toast. Thank you 👍

  • @MRPUD1
    @MRPUD1 Před 5 lety

    Great video love old railway stuff keep it up martin

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Me to thanks very much. thanks for being in the livestream as well 👍🏼

  • @Steven_Rowe
    @Steven_Rowe Před 5 lety +14

    Martin
    Just did some research.
    Butterhouse tunnel was 301 metres long.
    Using google i measured the distance from the Northern portal where you entered it and it seems the southern portal is just south of oof Ryyfield Drive beyond what looks like a farmhouse.
    Iwo der how far you went in, surely almost to the southern portal.
    I bet that Southern portal still exists along with the retaining walls if any.
    All very interesting I think.
    I would love to do the exploration stuff you do.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      I wanted to go look but never had time

    • @David1988Mufc
      @David1988Mufc Před 5 lety

      Hello pal I've got a massive massive debate I need your help on regarding a old railway in Manchester. Me and group of friends have have been debating if actually the ordsall cord isn't the first time piccadilly/Victoria as been connected. Anyway please whenever you get the chance and time buddy as if anybody can solve it we thought you can. Give us a email davidtaylor12338@gmail.com. Cheers Dave

    • @drewcyprus3714
      @drewcyprus3714 Před 3 lety

      I Think they covered up the over end and I recon it's not far under them trees at ryfields

  • @Roblilley999
    @Roblilley999 Před 5 lety

    Great Video Martin. Know the Leeds to Manchester line and the Stockport to Slaybridge line, didn't realise their was this extra bit, like you said, they must have thought it was not needed, so just pulled the viaduct down and blocked the tunnel up (at one end anyway)

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      People kept mentioning the Micklehurst loop to me and it took me a while to work out what it actually was.

  • @davidhodkinson5290
    @davidhodkinson5290 Před 4 lety

    Great vid ta. Never seen pictures of either end of the tunnel in steam days.

  • @SuperHellsbells1980
    @SuperHellsbells1980 Před 5 lety

    Oh cant wait were going this week ,Thank you x

    • @SuperHellsbells1980
      @SuperHellsbells1980 Před 5 lety

      Hi Martin,where is the best place to park car to do this ,where do you join path ,taking kids and dont want to get lost Haha x

  • @terryansell6641
    @terryansell6641 Před 3 lety

    What amazing railway history that tunnel would be made onto a cycle track in New Zealand
    Just think of the man hours building this tunnel and the cost.
    Your videos are excellent thank you

  • @chrismatthews2579
    @chrismatthews2579 Před 5 lety +15

    Stalactites and stalagmites are mostly calcium carbonate (limestone) which has low solubility in water. Calcium carbonate may be suspended in water and come out of suspension or dissolve in water and come out of solution as the water evaporates.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Yep, but they are all shiny and pearly. I think they bee Giants teeth on the surface 👹

    • @FlightProgramAborted
      @FlightProgramAborted Před 3 lety

      @@MartinZero lol I think what we have here is Calthemites, From memory around all the coal beds in that area there is also Carboniferous limestone , All that water seeping though the limestone into the tunnel causing calcite (calcium) to seep through and form below the where its seeping through .The lack of a through draft must make the air heaven with moisture running over those stalagmites :) I’m no expert, but it could also be Godzilla’s buried in the tunnel :)
      en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calthemite#/media/File%3ACalthemite_straw_stalactite.jpg

    • @FlightProgramAborted
      @FlightProgramAborted Před 3 lety

      Courtesy of Wikipedia “
      Calthemites are usually the result of hyperalkaline solution (pH 9-14) seeping through a calcareous man-made structure until it comes into contact with the atmosphere on the underside of the structure, where carbon dioxide (CO2) from the surrounding air facilitates the reactions to deposit calcium carbonate as a secondary deposit. CO2 is the reactant (diffuses into solution) as opposed to speleothem chemistry where CO2 is the product (degassed from solution).[3] It is most likely that the majority of calcium carbonate (CaCO3) creating calthemites in shapes which, mimicking speleothems, is precipitated from solution as calcite as opposed to the other, less stable, polymorphs of aragonite and vaterite.[1][3]’

  • @johnbowles4754
    @johnbowles4754 Před 5 lety

    Excellent video again Martin please keep them coming

  • @mevive
    @mevive Před 5 lety

    Your videos are very entertaining, love old historic railway mysteries ... you earned your self a sub ...thumbs UP

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thank you very much and I really appreciate you subscribing

  • @AndysDiary
    @AndysDiary Před 5 lety +1

    Another fantastic video Martin! I knew there was a tunnel up there but I couldn't remember where, definitely need to take a trip out there!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Andy, yeah its a nice little adventure this one. Easy to get into as well 👍

  • @davidroberts9477
    @davidroberts9477 Před 5 lety

    Ace again Martin, just shows just how very industrious we once were.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi David, yes that whole line was built just because they couldn't widen the existing line. Brilliant 👌

    • @davidroberts9477
      @davidroberts9477 Před 5 lety

      @@MartinZero crazy the old school just got things done !

  • @angelsone-five7912
    @angelsone-five7912 Před 4 lety

    Stalactites grow down, stalacmites grow up as a result of drips from the tites. The screw you picked up holds down the chair to the sleeper. The rail sits in the chair. Unusual to find a tunnel you can just walk into, nice one.

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Před 5 lety

    When you look at the tunnels remember that every brick had to be laid by hand and transported onto the scaffolding by hodsmen and these walls are not just a couple of brick wide but normally between 18 inches and 3 feet and more in some places and done on moveable wooden arches, the whole tunnel is a fantastic bit of architecture from planning to excavation and the building of the tunnel to hold back the pressure of earth, so I hope everyone appreciates the effort these skilled men put into the building of the railways

  • @tonyball3910
    @tonyball3910 Před 5 lety +3

    Ha Martin, try the old air raid tunnels in Stockport, I was down them in the 60s, they were just as they had left them after ww2. Love your videos, keep it up

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Tony a few explorers have been in there recently. I would like to go in though. Quite a labyrinth down there

  • @Pricklyhedgehog72
    @Pricklyhedgehog72 Před 3 lety

    The brickwork of Victorian tunnels is just amazing, the arches and curves they built with such accuracy, a real testament to a bygone era of British/UK engineering.

  • @Captain_Char
    @Captain_Char Před 5 lety

    This reminds me of when I went for a walk along the hydro electric canal here, and found an old train bridge, never knew it was there, and ive lived here all my life

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Where is that ?

    • @Captain_Char
      @Captain_Char Před 5 lety

      I live in Niagara Falls, Canada, lots of old infrastructure here, I need to get out and and either take pics or vids before its all gone to history

  • @grahamtanner559
    @grahamtanner559 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for another great video.

  • @floydskifloyd2870
    @floydskifloyd2870 Před 5 lety

    ,,👍,, Brilliant great stuff another top notch video so professionally done excellent footage editing music so much background history amazing so much unknown history surrounding us thanks for bringing it to light thanks again for your videos Martin eagerly look forward to your next one thanks m8 🙂👍

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks Pal. I think I owe you a thank you for this one 😀👍

    • @floydskifloyd2870
      @floydskifloyd2870 Před 5 lety

      We all owe you big thank you for making the video all the hours editing & creating it thanks m8 👍

  • @billbixby6411
    @billbixby6411 Před 5 lety +1

    Great video thanks

  • @maxcowell3920
    @maxcowell3920 Před 4 lety

    Great vid - always enjoy your explores....

  • @michaeljohn2826
    @michaeljohn2826 Před 5 lety +2

    The Lydgate tunnel not to far from Diggle/upermill area has got to be looked into Martin, lived in northern ireland for years now and I still think about maybe coming home and getting in that Lydgate tunnel somehow.

  • @paulspickernell6875
    @paulspickernell6875 Před 3 lety

    Great stuff again

  • @DRILLBABYDRIL
    @DRILLBABYDRIL Před 5 lety

    Another entertaining watch, thanks pal..

  • @HelenaMikas
    @HelenaMikas Před 5 lety

    Great video.well done all of you .Stalagtites hang down ...those on the floor are stalagmites Drip , calcium dripping from above onto certain substances causes the poached egg shapes to form and grow . Pools Caverns is an amazing example ..Many of which are huge ... Love this and it was better than watching someone climb Everest *

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thanks so much Helena. No way could I ever climb everest. Love the poached egg shapes 😆

  • @simonprice8737
    @simonprice8737 Před 5 lety

    Great Video very atmospheric,the small tunnels at the beginning are probably to handle run off from the fields after heavy rain otherwise water can gather and look at side of embankment and gradually undermine and weaken it....chair bolts that secure the rail via the chair to the sleepers, the chair is like a big clip that is bolted on the sleepers and the rail is clipped into it, make a nice paperweight !!!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Yeah great paperweight, needs some cleaning. I was filthy after that.

  • @michaelgamble296
    @michaelgamble296 Před 4 lety

    Very interesting CZcams, Martin, and right up there with your best! Keep doing this as I "can't get about much any more" (someone should write a song on those words!)

  • @iandixon8562
    @iandixon8562 Před 5 lety

    I enjoyed that, good work lads. I'd love to go along on one of these walks.
    I believe that stalactites hang from the top down, and stalagmites grow from the floor up.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Ian, yes it was a good day. I have known Diggle for years but never knew about that tunnel 👍

  • @rangeroverl322
    @rangeroverl322 Před 4 lety

    Yet another top video Martin cheers👍

  • @lenniegoodband2677
    @lenniegoodband2677 Před 5 lety +1

    Hello Martin. Just like to say I love your videos about Manchester and the railways. But I don't live in Manchester because I live in Lincolnshire. So keep up the good work and I can't wait to see you next video mate👍👍👍👍👍

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hello Lennie thanks so very much, really appreciate it. Best regards to Lincolnshire 👌👊

  • @brianmoore7910
    @brianmoore7910 Před 5 lety

    Great video Martin one of are fishing spots that off to Hollingsworth lake this afternoon try and catch some perch 👍

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Brian, yeah that would be a beautiful area to fish. Enjoy your afternoon 👌

  • @joylunn3445
    @joylunn3445 Před 4 lety

    Great video, just found it.

  • @davidnm21
    @davidnm21 Před 3 lety

    6:37 the track clamps are actually known as rail chairs, ( I was a railway signalman for 23 years), but yes I got your meaning and enjoyed your video.

  • @Zentron
    @Zentron Před 5 lety +1

    Very interesting video, I must visit the tunnel sometime!
    The only railway tunnel I've come across on my journeys, is the one for Tiviot Dale Station that I visited some months ago... unfortunately I could not get anywhere near it, as it is on the other side of a metal barrier, which is there because the modern road was widened and now covers much of the entrance way to the tunnel, but if you walk along the pavement by the side of the cliff, the top of the tunnel entrance can be seen. Sadly only one of the platforms for the station has survived 😞

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thats Interesting, is that the centre of Stockport ?

  • @19bob53
    @19bob53 Před 5 lety

    Great interesting video once again Martin. A couple of weeks ago we with my brother and his wife from Australia were on the other side of that railway we walked along the Huddersfield Canal from Marsden to the tunnel entrance, just to the side is the exit for the railway. Nice cafe canal side.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Oh right fab, was the cafe Grandpa Greens think they do Ice cream as well

    • @bobpedley8609
      @bobpedley8609 Před 5 lety

      Didn't notice the name but they were selling ice-cream, only had a coffee. On the way back had a nice meal in the Junction Hotel, Denshaw.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Bob Pedley Its all beautiful round there. Compo's cafe in Holmfirth is that still there ?

  • @carolinegray3150
    @carolinegray3150 Před 5 lety

    A nice tunnel explore

  • @michaeljones5919
    @michaeljones5919 Před 4 lety

    Hello Martin, fantastic videos, this loop was built because the tracks couldn't be widened due to the narrow space approaching Mossley from Stalybridge. Bad decision to close it pal

  • @carlhenshall5604
    @carlhenshall5604 Před 5 lety

    Great video, music,maps and pics martin. Your team is getting bigger i see ;)

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Just a few guests on this one. Your more than welcome 👍

  • @maveric5381
    @maveric5381 Před 5 lety

    Really look forward to your vids. What makes old railways so interesting? Thanks for all the additional information.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thank you. I struggled to find good info on this one. Plus some of the dates from various places contradicted each other. But many thanks 😃

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains Před 5 lety

    That was a lovely video. liked :)

  • @sharonstuebi8181
    @sharonstuebi8181 Před 5 lety +1

    love your sence of humor

  • @michaelgamble296
    @michaelgamble296 Před 4 lety

    Martin, if it's on the ground it's a Stalagmite. It grows from moisture dripping from above. So if you look up immediately above the Stalagmite there could well be a Stalagtite. aide-memoire= to hank on from above it needs to "hang on tight" - otherwise it 'might' fall. There should be ventilation shafts in there and Railway Notices under them which say what they are. Are there? But I'll carry on watching, fascinated - there was no hindrance to your access at all! That's unusual in itself - maybe the other end is all barbed wire!

  • @antpant7
    @antpant7 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant. Thanks for sharing the history, adds to the magic. Drewton Tunnel is a good explore if you are ever in the East Riding. Always up for an explore.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hello many thanks. East riding Yorkshire ? Is it a long tunnel ? Easy access ?

    • @antpant7
      @antpant7 Před 5 lety

      @@MartinZero its 1 mile 354 yards. 5 Airshafts. East Riding Yorkshire. Its part of the ex Hull and Barnsley Railway closed in the 1950s. Last went in 2008, really good for an explore. Access is limited at the Western portal but once your are in its clear all the way.

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Ok sounds good. Wonder if I can see it on google maps?

    • @antpant7
      @antpant7 Před 5 lety

      @@MartinZero here's a link to the Eastern portal on Google earth id that helps. earth.app.goo.gl/?apn=com.google.earth&ibi=com.google.b612&isi=293622097&ius=googleearth&link=https%3a%2f%2fearth.google.com%2fweb%2f%4053.78991171,-0.52685785,101.59419488a,1798.88709837d,35y,39.74346867h,0t,0r%2fdata%3dCi4aLBIkGWeuREU25UpAISZY338z3uC_KhA1My43OTA3LCAtMC41MjcxGAIgASgD

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      antpant7 Found it on google maps. Very near a farm and in fields ?

  • @pauloneill9965
    @pauloneill9965 Před 5 lety

    Stalatices form from roofs stalamites form from ground. Wat a beautiful spot new sub cause you make it as easy as possible to understand but mainly I love history. The workmanship on these lost tunnels sewers etc that nobody gets to see is up there wit anything above ground. That bolt the really old 1's mite have a railway line stamped into them great western etc Wat a waste you cant get all way threw cause them old railway lines make brillant walking cycling treks use wats already show them tunnels for wat they are impressive pieces of history. That way the decay stops councils towns etc start protecting wat should be protected. Top vid tks for taken time energy research etc to record these forgotten gems best regards from Ireland 👍☘🇮🇪

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety +1

      Hello Paul many thanks for commenting and Subscribing. Yes I think we feel the same, it would be great to open up the tunnel and use it as a path/cycleway. Great architecture like you say. Best regards to Ireland from Myself and Manchester 👍😃

    • @pauloneill9965
      @pauloneill9965 Před 5 lety

      @@MartinZero have you watched exploring wit fighters them guys have done some brillant vids of tunnels amazing stuff under ur feet in Manchester forgotten rail station clubs government things or IKS they record WW2 tunnels bunkers history been left to decay rot. Most people don't even know wats below the very feet a whole sub universe amazing stuff take care again look forward to nxt adventure vid Martin.🤘

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Paul Oneill Yeah I know of exploring with fighters. they do get into some great places 👌

  • @Thunderer0872
    @Thunderer0872 Před 5 lety +1

    Another great video, also explains to me where the four tracks started between Stalybridge and Huddersfield many thanks

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Thank you 👌

    • @Thunderer0872
      @Thunderer0872 Před 5 lety

      @@MartinZero a bit of interesting info on Diggle www.disused-stations.org.uk/d/diggle/index.shtml

    • @Thunderer0872
      @Thunderer0872 Před 5 lety

      and the Micklehurst Loop www.disused-stations.org.uk/features/micklehurst_loop/index.shtml

  • @piccadillyline9765
    @piccadillyline9765 Před 5 lety +2

    That bolt held the chair (the big metal thing) to the sleepers then the track is held in place on the chair by keys.

  • @Spehcktor
    @Spehcktor Před 5 lety

    I'm not from Manchester, nor have I ever been. Your videos make me want to come, see everything, that nobody else goes out to experience. Always look forward to your uploads!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hello, thanks very much for your comment. 👍Whereabouts are you ?

    • @Spehcktor
      @Spehcktor Před 5 lety

      Lloydminster Canada, on the border of Alberta, and Saskatchewan. Fairly young in the terms of history!

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Mono7068073421 Robot Sonic Wow thats amazing ! Great to know your watching so far away. You must come and visit 👍

  • @WakoJacKooo
    @WakoJacKooo Před 5 lety

    Cheers for this will hace a gander there

    • @MartinZero
      @MartinZero  Před 5 lety

      Hi Joe yeah its a great place to take a look at 👍

  • @agentbertram4769
    @agentbertram4769 Před 3 lety

    Great video Martin.
    One easy way to remember about stalactites and stalagmites. The stalactite has to hold on 'TITE' to the ceiling. The stalagmites 'MITE' one day grow tall enough to join up. (Courtesy of Enid Blyton). Please forgive the miss spelling of TIGHT and MIGHT.