iPhone 13 Pro vs Sony ZV-E10 - Vlog Test
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2021
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I just got the new iPhone 13 Pro in and I wanted to see how it held up against the Sony ZV-E10 and how, in particular, cinematic mode works.
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Very helpful video. Thank u
Congratulations Mark.
Maybe you will do a video with the iPhone being your studio camera with the same light set up as the Sony. That will tell us how much of a difference there is when it comes to low light videography
Great job Mark, love this comparison. Weird that phones can even be compared with cameras like the ZV-E10. Keep up the excellent work!
In natural light - they really get the job done. In the studio, in lowlight - or as much. But getting there 👍👍
Not when they cost twice as much lolol
@@thomaslacy1712 Its still a phone in the first place.
This is literally the test I needed lol I’ll be using these both this year
Me too!! 🤣🤣
I'd rather buy a Sony ZV-E10 and iPad Mini 6 for creative work than spending it all on an iPhone 13 Pro/Pro Max.
Defintiely
how about zve10 and ipad 9. i think the ipad 9 is still the best value tablet out there.
@@truthseeker6804 the lightning port on the iPad 9 gave it away. If it had a usb c port it would be better.
But only the zv with a good lense is around 1800 usd
Zve10 vs ip 10/8 . I will choose sony if I have it on my hand . But my ip14 pro is always in my pocket. Lol 😊 . Thanks for your interesting review .
iphone looks overhsarpened. Im glad you touched on the price outside of a plan too. So many people act like its a huge surprise that the iphone is close to lower end cameras, but its not really given the price tag. Sensor size is still king.
Absolutely - by the way - your tips on squats have helped me a ton. Flexing the back like you’re doing a shoulder press makes a huge difference 💪🏻💪🏻
Mark, I just stumbled across your channel and I have to say, I LOVE the content you put out. Definitely earned a sub from me. The quality of your videos is top notch and the energy you have in from of the camera is amazing. Cheers
Awesome, thank you!
Man, I've just found your channel today and I've been watching for you ZVE10 reviews and I just LOVE your self-love/obsession jokes. Right on the spot!
🤣🤣
This was a great comparison! Would definitely be keen for a ZV-1 vs iPhone 13 if possible!
it would be good. I’ll see if I can get Sony to send me one. 👍👍
I love this guy ! He simple and straightforward
Awesome video Mark, super informative and funny too!! I just subscribed
Thanks!!
i was looking for a comparison and i found exactly what i wanted in this video.. thanks man!!
You're welcome!!
Thanks for the video! Great comparison videos between the two cameras. One thing that stood out to me was iPhone has much better HDR (blue sky, details in highlights and shadows) comparing to ZV-E10. Iphone also has a wider view lens that helps in small spaces (like capturing everyone sitting inside a car).
Yes - an iPhone can have its advantages for sure
So you want to tell that when some1 is recording just 4k walk vidz iphone 13 + some stabilizer like crane 2 is better than Sony Zv 10 with additional lens ?
There is something funky about the cinematic mode on the iphone. Almost like its applying fake blur but has trouble blending the edges of what is in focus and what isnt. Edges appeared intermittently blurry on movement.
yeah - it’s not quite there
I bought a iPhone 12pro a couple of months ago to film my bag making tutorials, but then I thought it would be more convenient to have two cameras so I could have one shoots from top down and another shoots in front of the sewing machine. After watching Mark’s video, I got a zv e10 a couple of days ago. Man , what a difference, should have bought two mirror less cameras instead of a phone. Love your videos Mark, can you making some videos about basic photography on zv e10?
yes - the photography stuff is coming - I’m just waiting on an update to Lightroom so that I can process the raw photos
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Yay
Hahaha i love how you walk around your backyard and just blabber around. First time to see this channel and I’m now subscribed!
get used to the blabbering 🤣🤣
Love you're videos Mark and just in the process of deciding on an APS C camera to buy and you have helped me reach a decision. Keep doing what you are doing and I suspect your apple juice is something a little stronger.
Great review, still waiting my pre-ordered ZV-E10, already 1 month.
waiting is the worst!! but it’ll be worth it 👍
Great review, Thanks mark.
No problem 👍
Love your energy and enthusiasm, you really stand out from most film youtubers I've found!
Haha - thanks!! 👍👍
Great content! Photography comparison too pls
the catalyst does everything. i can't believe how steady it is. what lens were you using on the sony?
He said it was the sigma 16mm f1.4
May be sigma f 1.4
Yup - sigma 16mm 1.4
thx for your time, this helped🔥
Just commented on one of your other videos Mark, saying how difficult it is to make your mind up these days and just when I thought I had you do exactly that I had more or less thought I would take the plunge with the Sony ZV E10 over my phone due to its limitations and now you have me doubting myself again 😂
Perfect. Could share your manual settings for “Doug” when you first started filming backyard? Good video
Thanks!! it’s the same as my picture profile video video - PP10 HLG3 👍👍
Great video Mark!
Thanks!!
Comedy x tech review- You're on to something! Loved this video I first watched from this channel. Subbed now and proceeding to view the others.
Thanks!! I appreciate it 👍
Cool channel Mark. I like where this is going. Might start my next video with a pint in hand. 🤙
Go for it!
Just discovered your channel!! Great content!!! 🥂🐤
Good content, keep it coming and thank you 👌
Thanks, will do!!
I need more videos like this.
Also, the Catalyst Browse software on the A7C is incredible! I usually get about a 1.1 crop, but the results are usually pretty incredible.
I wish (somehow) the cameras would have this built in. As in, catalyst browse software built into the camera, allowing us to get the stabilization right out of camera.
yes - it’s what GoPros do - hopefully one day it will be an option
Great reviews . Thank you.
Glad you like them!
was thinking about getting the Zv-e10 for a while but because I needed a phone I got the iPhone 13 Pro and filmed my first vlog with it already it’s pretty great! hoping the A7c ii comes out soon that should be perfect for all my needs :)
it’s really good - especially with natural light 👍👍
Damn that’s the video I was searching for!
all right!! 😃
Great review!!
Thanks!! 👍👍
Which can i buy sir for outdoor indoor vlogs please tell i shoot 9:16 ratio
Ok, now I may have to upgrade my iPhone. Agree with you that in many cases, the iPhone may be best if ease of use is key. Can see that often on more of a ‘run and gun’ video shoot or on a vacation it would work very well. So quick to access too. Not cinematic (where was the 1080 slow mo hair flip test?) Sorry that your backyard lawn is likely starting to look like a small running track! Another great video!
haha - hair flip - what was I thinking?? next up for sure
And so glad you saved us the drudgery of an unboxing!
Nice vid, I've been thinking if i will upgrade my phone or just buy the zve10....and your vid helped me... thanks
Glad I could help👍👍
Already subscribed to you as I enjoy your presentations so much. Can I ask how you were holding the Sony camera and Sigma 16mm lens when vlogging? I have the a6400/Sigma set up and I'm curious as there's quite a combined weight going on there.
I just had it on a flimsy gorilla pod and wasn’t holding it for too long 🤣. In small doses it’s manageable.
Very nice, was fun to watch 👍
Thanks 👍
Your mic is very good, sound is so clear on the vlogging!
I use the Lark 150 from Hollyland. I really like it. A lav mic is necessary for outside I think.
nice video. i was shocked at how good the sony camera was.......and amazed at catalyst browse
this is the kind of review we need.
i enjoyed watching your video, thanks
If I want to use a camera for real estate videography one of these two, Sony a6400 and ZV E-10 what do you suggest me ?
It is Humble request to guide me
Thanks you. ...appreciate your work 💪
I appreciate that!
Finally i got this compare reasons video 👍🏽
Great video!
Small question - in the ZV-E10, manual settings, which settings/profiles did you use?
Thanks!! I used the pp10 HLG3 setting. I explain it more in depth in this video: czcams.com/video/wThEordOw9E/video.html
test très intéressant merci. Je suis en attente de mon 13 PRO MAX et de mon 16 1.4 pour mon ZV E10.. ça tombe bien cet essai comparatif....
You earned a sub mate. 💯
I did not know you but thanks to the CZcams algorithm I have.
One of the few honest and technical reviews I've seen of this iPhone 13 Pro.
As a professional and iPhone user, I still think that it is a VERY BIG mistake to make users believe that buying this iPhone 13 will be Tarantino.
A great and very very good Smartphone, but please, let's not compare a sensor with these characteristics with professional equipment.
Enough of so much consumerism.
GREAT video friend.
thank you - I appreciate that!, 👍👍
Just the video I needed to see. I was trying to decide to buy a ZV-E10 since I am getting an Iphone 13 anyway.
They compliment each other nicely, I think!!
I really enjoyed the comparison between the two. To me the Sony looked the best, but if I didn't have that comparison, I would have thought the iPhone did a fantastic job. For some that want an everyday shooter and casual vlogging, I think the phone is a compelling choice considering you won't need to invest in various lenses. But for the more serious vlogger or cinematographer, I'd probably go with the mirrorless camera.
Also, there are a lot of deals for the iPhone 13 Pros at the moment, so that might bring the price down considerably.
Yes - that thinking makes a lot of sense to me 👍👍
Wonderful content brother, facts !!
Appreciate it!
Hi mark, I have a couple questions. Will you have tutorials on how to use catalyst? Also, I’ve been using my Sony zve10 and got the sd card you recommend, but noticed that I get 2 duplicate files and mp4 and an xml, what can I change so I only get one file? Thank you!!!
Tutorial on catalyst coming up. Just do a manual stabilization and set it to 90%. I’ll demonstrate on the tutorial. You can’t change the Sony’s to give you one file - every sony camera will give you an mp4 and XML. Just drag in the mp4 to a folder or editing program
I think the ZV-E10 looks much better. The good thing about it is that it won't be obsolete and need updates every two weeks. I appreciate you sharing this though. I am done with Iphone cameras. The last one I got was the 11 ProMax and it was suppose to be the bees knees and I can tell you it's horrible. The white balance is god awful even with apps like Filmic Pro or Movie Pro. I love how I can connect the Sony to my Imac via a Camlink and use OBS to record videos. It allows me to see myself on a monitor while I'm recording. With an Iphone to be able to see what you are doing you need to monitor via Apple Air Play which sometimes refuses to work if you need "updates". I need to see what I am doing because I make instructional videos and objects being in focus is very important. What's more I don't need to transfer any videos because they're instantly saved to my computer. I like the lens you used with the Sony. Very nice "look".
Yup - you nailed it. Phone cameras are just not close for me. Filming some kids running around - a couple of vacation pics - sure. But nothing more than that. Maybe some CZcams nonsense too.😂😃😂
Thank you for the great video so this will be a reason for me to still use my ip6s and spend my whole money on zv e10
Hey! I'm looking to do overhead top down recording on a desk setup. Can you recommend the attachment I may need? For the zv-e10
so many options available. look for a moving boom arm with a quick release plate. she knows out this rig my friend Bernie did czcams.com/video/oOS60gX2L2w/video.html
When you were outside with the Sony it looked like you had a mic clipped to your shirt. The audio was great, what mic was that?
It was actaully a cheap lav by Boya. The Boya M1 $20 plugged into a zoom H1N. I'm really impressed with the little lav. The wind muff helps the most in my opinion. amzn.to/3zIyThQ
H1N: amzn.to/2Y5hi6R
Interesting comparision. I don't have an Iphone but my friends swear by them, they are really good for getting ordinary everyday photos and vidoes in daylight. Apple has put a bunches of effort into software to compensate for the Iphone's teeny, tiny sensor. For most people the Iphone cams are more than adequate. But if you want really great quality images and videos, there is no substitute for a mirrorless or DSLR. Personally for me, if I knew that I was going to do either photos or videos, I would use either my Sony RX10/4 or RX100/7, they both have the same sensor.
Great video, as always. How long does it take you to export your footage to your computer from Catalyst Browse? One video took me 5 min, but maybe because I have a 7-year-old IMAC. But it's so slow. Still not sure about zv e 10, going through all that stuff just to stabilize the footage, I don't have the lens you have and not planning on using lenses for vlogging, but if it wasn't sony zv e 10 or zv e1, what other camera would you recommend with good image stabilization? That is compact and does 4 k :) Mary
Olympus has the best stabilization and they are also compact. Check out the EM1 mark ii www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1283565-REG/olympus_om_d_e_m1_mark_ii.html?BI=21906&KBID=28274
or mark iii amzn.to/3J8HpfQ or also the Em5 mark iii. amzn.to/3GZRRo8
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis which would be better between the e10 and the olympus you mention here for vlogging?
@@jessiechan1379 if you get a wide lens for the Olympus you can just use that camera for vlogging as it has the best stability in the game. But there are a few drawbacks like no zebras for exposure, 30 min record limit, and it breaks the clips up in 4gb chunks. Also, it doesn’t have HLG profile and it’s a micro4/3 cam so it has less dynamic range, but it is a better photo camera and it’s stabilization is amazing
Great review, just what I was after 10/10!
Can you compare on-board mic between them? Thank you for the quality comparisons.
yes - I’ll do it in an upcoming video for sure
i really love your content. Full of information and entertaining. I am now in a dilemma whether to buy an iphone13 or a zve10 for my future vlogs. I hope I can make the right choice after this. Thank you brother 👍
3:47 - 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks!! They can both be great. Good luck 👍👍
Did you use an external mic for the iPhone? I was just starting research on a mic for my 12 Pro Max but after stumbling across your videos and the hullabaloo around the E10, I just decided to get that so I can plug a decent mic in without any flaky adapters, not to mention seeing myself on the flip screen.
No external mic for the iPhone. Good choice with the E10. I only use my phone to record my kids and the occasional comparison test 🤣
I follow you since I was planning to buy the ZV-1 (which I bought). This video just made me have a vertigo - and well, laugh too :)
As of now I still watch more videos than shooting with the ZV-1 but I am loving it. To be honest, the cinematic mode on the iPhone is not shabby...
Sony just lent me a ZV1 to test out. Some vids coming up!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis I know your backyard better than my ZV-1, LOL. I love Toronto, by the way. I have only been there once, though.
@@ZotmundSzele Toronto is pretty great. My fav city I’ve lived in
handy.thanks. iphone 14 is what i’m thinking of for quick point and capture in places I just want quick results
Nice video bro thanks just wondering how long does it take to run a video threw catalyst browse?
Thanks!! Catalyst takes about 3 mins for every one minute of footage on my computer. Your mileage may vary.
Old men bit was hilarious. I would love to watch you live haha!
haha - thanks. a maybe someday when comedy comes back here in Canada!!
Can you please make a video on what manual setting you did on ZV1 e10
yes - I’m going to do a full colour grade video. But for now, the settings were: shutter speed 1/50, F1.4, ISO 125, HLG3 with BT.2020
I use Galaxy Note 20 Ultra and it has a portrait in video and it can do 4K so it's awesome
Would love to see a iphone 13 vs. Canon M50 comparison!
Excelent video!!!🥰🥰🥰
Can you make a video about photography with the zv-e10 please?
Yes - for sure.
How do you find the halo to be in cinematic mode? I know in portrait mode, it’s a dead giveaway on the iPhone 12
looked pretty good - if I was doing the focus racking, it might have been a bit more obvious.
Only a expert like you can be so fast for this comparison both new products launched at time
haha
Nice video! i like the more "natural' result of the zv-e10. But i also like the sound quality of your wireless microphone! i would like to know what model it is ! And do you have a affiliated link to buy one! thanks
Thanks for thinking of the affiliate link. In this video, I used a H1N and a Boy Lav (which comes with the furry windmuff) - but you ave to sync them in post. geni.us/7iriIzP and geni.us/Bi1Oq
But most of the time now I am using a wireless mic I really like the Holland Lark 150 - so that I don't have to sync in post: geni.us/7mQP BUT don't forget to get the furry windscreen - that makes all the difference geni.us/kxWL
I use both these setups constantly.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Great! Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my question, I appreciate it :)
Nice comparison, I'm tuned
Thank you !
You're welcome!
What's a good camera for video that you can buy cheap used, ant models I should keep an eye out for?
Just for family vlogging
look at Olympus EM1 mark ii. great autofocus, great stability, great photo camera
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis Thanks I will look for one!
Excellent comparison. It does make sense. I would have liked to see you mentioning how hard it was for a PC/Mac to do all the post process in the Catalyst Browser. I mean, how much work one would have to do to get a stable footage like the iPhone's for instance. We need to take that in consideration for regular shooters. How about the battery for the ZV1, can you shoot a documentary like you said with only a single charge? Of course not, so it's the same issue one would run if the short storage on the iPhone as you mentioned.
But yeah, definitely an iPhone won't replace a mirrorless camera, but it will complement it. I'm sure you are likely yo have it on you all the time, but how about the Sony???
Catalyst browse takes about 3-5 mins to stabilize a one minute clip of footage. My computers have no trouble with catalyst browse - but of course - different computers will have different outcomes. You can get about 100 mins of 4K recording on the ZV-E10. I did a video abiut the battery life if you want to check it out. 👍👍
I think you need to get the upcoming Viltrox 13mm F1.4 or current Samyang 12mm F2
I will look into it. hopefully they can send me a test unit.
Could you consider doing a review of an older alpha series camera?
For example, already own an a6500 is it worth the upgrade? Pros and cons of staying with and/or upgrading?
In point of fact that is my exact quandary and the second hand value of my a6500 is roughly the same price as the zv new.
Should I consider it?
Love your content and watched most of it now!
I will try to get some older models in for sure. It would be interesting. The a6500 is going to be better for photos because of the viewfinder and stabilization and weather sealing. For video, you have catalyst browse options, no record limit, eye autofocus, better color science, flip screen. So, if you like what you’re getting out of the a6500 and and you don’t want to use the gyro data, you still have some advantages with the a6500.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis when I watch comparison videos people aren’t comparing the iPhone 13 against the pixel 38, they’re clutching their iPhone X and hoping someone will tell them what to do
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What mic are you using outside? I jave a rode wireless go but the audio on the built in mic seemed muffled and low quality
used a $20 boya lugged into a zoom H1N
Hi Mark ! Love your video.. I have been banging my head against the wall if i should purchase sony zv-e10 of a iphone 13 max pro for my video content recording. In the video at 2:07 you said $350 lens (from that shot), what lens are you referring to? which link in your description is that in reference to?
That is the Sigma 16mm f1.4
Thanks so much!
Hey I always watching your zv e10 ( Doug ) comparison and now that you compare with iPhone , perhaps compare with go pro 8 next if you can ? I am curious which one vlogging is better .
gopro 8 good for action sports which zve10 cant replace. zve10 would do way better in low light/indoors.
in sumary
sports = gopro
photos and non sports videos = zve10
if you want to do sports + daylight vlogging = gopro
vlogging + cinematic videos = zve10
my recommendation get both. i personally use dji osmo action, you can check that out, quiet affordable, so you can use the remainder to buy zve10. because honestly gopro and zve10 are for different stuff.
I am going to test against the gopro 10 that I have here for fun
I need a camera for indoor real estate videography with wide angle lens 60fps in low light condition what you suggest me iPhone or DSLR because I don't have experience about using of DSLR ?
Go with the iPhone for now - DSLR or mirrorless cameras require a lot of learning to get them to work well. Maybe borrow one or rent one for a while to see if it works for you
I hope they come out with a note 22, I have a note 20 ultra which I love and I'm not interested in the folding phones
Photography comparison pleaseee
Thanks Mark, good review. I’m considering upgrading from an iPhone 8+ to the new 13pro but I would want the 500 gig. I would need the 500 gig 🤣 Like you I prefer the ZV E10. There are times when I still use the iPhone just for time and convenience and mix both in post. Also, low light video always seems better on an iPhone so I use it when I’m not using a light. Mirrorless with the 16mm Sigma wins overall in my opinion 👍👍
The more gigs the better for a fixed amount of space like the iPhone for sure!!
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis cost is challenging for 500 gig though 😆👍
@@GetInspiredMedia no kidding. I couldn’t stomach more than the 256
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis true 😆
I agree, I have been using my Iphone 12 Pro max for my CZcams videos for the last 6 months before getting my ZV-E10 and i got really good footages using app that allows me to control camera settings, alot of ppl thought i m using a mirrorless Camera! the downside is the storage, inability to see yourself or see if you are recording or not! I m waiting maybe in future we get a little screen back on the phones, that solves these problems and close the gap between mirrorless camera and a Phone !
I am actually using quick time to record from the iPhone 13 mini on a Mac. It’s wireless , you see sounds setting and yourself. Works pretty good so far
iPhone footages got me dizzy with the wooden fence motion in the background. Even with cinematic mode. Didn't notice this effect with your zv-e10's setup though.
it did seem more erratic back there
Brother I have a question For The Best Vlogging Sony ZV E10 Or Sony ZV 1 ❓
zv1 for vlogging, zve10 for static tripod videos. you can use zve10 for vlogging if you want to go through extra process of software stabilization. but still zv1 is better for vlogging because less rolling shutter in 4k.
any chance we could see also the wide angle on the iphone ?
I’m going to test it against the gopro - I’ll use the wide angle
You deserve to be invited to a pint! Thanks for the video!!
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Which lens did you use with zve10
this man does not miss with the humor xDDD
Thanks for the videos Mark! I've been using Iphone cameras over the years and editing with adobe premiere! I want to go further on this, and learn about photo as well, not just video, What camera would you recommend me?
I would recommend the Zv-E10 for a budget (although they are very hard to find due to a chip shortage). If you have more to spend, A7C or A7iv or the canon R6.
Iphone is moving a step closer but still afar compared to ZVE10. May be two or three years to get Apple to where they want. I just use iphone for editing my video. Still love my Sonys’ ZV1 and AX43. I’m still open to option like what iphone is trying to do but not this time. We will see next year.
hello Mark How are you? Excellent video
thanks!!