MY BRUTALLY HONEST RESPONSE TO ALFIE DEYES
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- čas přidán 26. 03. 2019
- A couple of week's ago Alfie Deyes uploaded a video to his channel entitled "Real & Honest Chat With ImAllexx & iNabber" in which Alfie, ImAllexx & iNabber discuss all of the criticisms that Alfie & Zoella have undercome in recent years by the commentary community here on CZcams. As a creator who has been at the forefront of many of these criticisms, I felt it would be justified to respond to this video in complete open honesty.
Zoella's advent calendar, The Pointless Book, Hello World are all discussed in this video, so... get ready for the shed video of all shed videos.
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Nobody else think it was a proper Tory cuppa?
Proper.
JaackMaate 😂👌
Propa
woke one of my room mates up whos getting a nap before starting nights....worth
I know that cuppa at the start it looks like shit water with a flower 💐 in it 😂😂
Notice how Alfie didn’t invite Jack to join cause he knew Jack would tear him a new one 😂
I actually wish that Jack and Alfie would have a sit down and Jack would RIP HIM APART.
@@annaanne5031 that would be perfect and make much more sense
Agreed hahaha
Hahahahaheheheh lol I nearly pissed myself
Alfie shat himself
Why does Alfie always sound like he's wearing somebody else's teeth....?
aye sounds like he’s got food stored in the side of his cheeks or something lodged down his throat
Omg, yes, I couldn't quite put my finger on his manner of speak but that is the perfect description!
Holy fuck I could never put a finger on how exactly he sounded but you... You just did. Thank you. Wow 😂
Probably because he is. I mean, look how his teeth are constantly bared. They don't fit in his mouth.
Yes!!!!!
“Only 4 grand” would literally change my life. I could finally afford a car which would open up opportunities to me that I’ve never had. Alfie is so out of touch it’s literally upsetting to hear him talk like this.
4 grand is a fucking fortune for me
And Alfie makes 10-20 grand for Zoey’s and his crap they sell
4 grand could feed a family for a considerable amount of time
I wasn’t actually sure if it was a good thing or a bad thing that he got 4 000 thousand for it as I don’t know how much is average.
That Weird Aussie Girl average salary for a year in the uk is £35,000 in a year. take that as you will
whys Alfie so aggressive for needs to have a bath with some zoella products to chill out ffs
Olivia Ackers 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Spend £8 on a shitty £1 bubble bath 😂
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Olivia Ackers under rated comment
No way . My last name is ackers i have NEVER seen another person have it ! We might be related :)
Why is it so cringe when Alfie swears? 😂😂
Hahaha i know right. It's pretty cringey when he speaks in general
You can tell he's trying so hard to be intimidating and cool. It was very cringe. Boy needs to relax lol
@@governmentrape 100% agree
Alfie is just cringy in general, same with zoella 😂 they’re just a cringy couple as a whole
Cause he’s posh
"Don't interrupt me," is one of the most valuable things to know how to say
You ask someone to come speak, proper etiquette and common sense is to LET THEM SPEAK.
@Luna exactly
yeah, but i understand if some people dont have the guts to say it, especially to someone who they dont really know all that well which was the case here
We all know after that one simple phrase the whole thing would have ended. It’s not even hindsight... Alfie is just so self entitled it screams arsehole.
Petition to get Jack and Alfie sit down together??
he wouldn't do it, he knows jack can tear him down easily
"It's called research, my friend" Honestly Alfie is so manipulative and condescending. He's only gotten worse over the years. He's a toxic person and i wouldn't like to be around him in real life.
Yeah, I really don’t like his attitude, or at least the way he portrays that attitude. I do feel like if he used his language in a better way, he could be seen as more funny and entertaining, rather than sarcastic and bitchy. I definitely do think that fame has gotten to his head and thinking about it, I would really hate to meet someone like him. I feel like if a person who wasn’t famous acted like this, they would be very looked down upon, with good reason, of course
Watching Alfie’s video through JaackMaates channel so I don’t have to give the tosser a view 🤷🏻♀️
Mollie Mae class
This is me rn 😭
Haha 3rd time ive watched ...on jacks channel ...
y’all act asif alfie’s murdered someone
Els it’s not like we want him to die, he’s just a tory who is also a cretin
I feel like the whole “chat” was an intimidation game, taking advantage of how much younger Alex and Fraser are compared to Alfie. Alfie’s body language is aggressive, uninviting and does not welcome people to offer an honest opinion. I don’t blame Alex for backtracking, I’m around the same age as him, and I’d be shitting myself if I was in that situation, across from a friend, a man between us, yelling, punching and slamming the table, visibly angry and trying to scare me. That’s not comfortable for anyone. I think the main reason he chose Alex is because Alex is almost known for being awkward and shy, so to putting him in that situation is a perfect recipe to help Alfie.
Alfie didn't choose alex he chose frasier and frasier chose to bring Alex to offer him back up
Annoying Multi fandom Name watch iNabber’s video about this and you’ll see that it was actually his choice to have Alex there, not Alfie’s.
i agree with that even if he didn’t choose alfie i would be shitting myself tok
RT
alfie was really rude to bang on the table as well...
Alfie - “I’ve been to every event, every boxing match..”
Alex - “i’ve never been to one”
Alfie - “um yeah i haven’t been to an event in ages”
MATE
"only 4 grand" is he having a laugh, that's how much i get for a student loan, that's how much i get to live off of from the government for a YEAR, and there are MILLIONS of people out there who wouldn't even dream of getting that a year! there are people living off of £5 a week or less and yet he's like i only made £4000 he is SO out of touch
Yoongiismysuga 4 grand is meant to help to pay for rent etc, you’re not “meant” to just live off it for the whole year. Most students have a job, a lot even have 2 to help them through.
First Last 1.) have you been a UK student in the last 5 years 2.) nope that's your maintenance loan the literal description of the maintenence loan is what the government believe you deserve to live off of for a year in relation to your parents income, so that's for things other than tuition, living money i.e. rent, bills, food, travel etc. 3.) i am a current student, my contact hours with the university are 30 a week with 20 hours of individual study (assignments, exam revision, dissertation work etc) which it usually ends up being longer than that because they under estimate how long things take. Im timetables to be on monday wednesday thursday friday, meaning i can only work part time work as a student mostly for minimum pay on tuesday saturday and sunday, leaving no extra time for uni work if i need it and also no time for a social/leisure side of my life, it would be work every day with no day off. now whilst possible, extremely difficult, now when (in a personal case) you add in the fact that i also have therapy appointments every tuesday (because it's the only day i'm not in uni) that also takes away tuesdays.
anyway the point of my comment was not to point out the flawed SFE system, or even to highlight how little i see of any form of loan, but to instead highlight the fact that "only 4 grand" is a ridiculous statement since for most people in the UK £4000 worth of income for what seems to be one single month (without everything else alfie deyes makes) it would literally change their life, especially considering (as i said at the end of my post about millions living off of even less than £4000 a year) there are millions of people in the UK living in poverty, living off of £5-10 a week, i'm not sure why you places so much importance on the student loan aspect of things, but i guess you just needed a reason to be annoyed/debate/get angry about something or at someone today.
have a good day, and i won't be replying to whatever you say next because frankly i believe i've said all i need to say. sorry that my comment seemed to trigger a response in you, didn't mean for that to happen.
Yoongiismysuga Yoongiismysuga Yoongiismysuga what an immature response 😂. Plenty of students work a job as well as have 30 contact hours per week and revise and don’t moan about the government not giving them enough. If you’re not receiving a lot its because your parents are earning a decent amount and are expected to support you somewhat. If they’re not then you have to support yourself like an adult and not expect everything to be handed to you on a silver platter. I was a student from 2015-2018 with around 30 contact hours per week, had a part time job on some evenings, still had time for a social life and finished with a 2.1. A lot of people do this and don’t feel the need to complain constantly. But some people love to play the victim and act like anyone that says otherwise is “triggered”. Also, there are not “millions of people living off £5 - £10 per week” in the UK, my dissertation was on benefits and disincentives to work you’ve just pulled that figure out of your arse to make a point. Obviously £4k is a lot to any average person but the points you were making were weak and barely even true. That’s all I need to say :)
First Last 1.) i would like to have concrete evidence of where i "moaned", i do support myself like an adult, however i would like to also add that some people can't, people with disabilities for example physical or mental and yes you can get DSA but that funds materials to help you study not living money/rent money. and that's good for you i'm glad you managed it, many people can't, your circumstance is not EVERYONES circumstance and your personal experience does not mean EVERYONE else can have 30 contact hours plus a part time job. nobody called anyone triggered and nobody is "playing the victim". statistically 14.3 million people in the UK are living in poverty i've linked a joseph roundtree study into poverty in the UK : fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/ my whole entire course is sociology and criminology, i focus on class disability and poverty almost every essay/exam/mini diss and actual diss i have written. so actually those statistics are not at all incorrect, i didn't moan about anything, and you've taken your personal experience and expected everyone to have the same one. i guess if you physically can't juggle intensive uni hours/job/social life then you just "aren't an adult and are playing the victim" instead of maybe actually PHYSICALLY not being able to do those things.
wow you're a very angry person huh, a lot of anger toward someone just stating that actually £4000 is a lot of money for a lot of people and saying that alfie deyes is out of touch.
ps, if your dissertation was about benefits and disincentives to work, then of course you're going to be biased because that's what you've studied, maybe next time do a diss on the amount of people in the UK living homeless or in poverty due to no fault of their own, look at mertons strain theory for one and see why some people end up where they do, also maybe do some research into the amount of the UK who can't work due to physical or mental disability, look at studies into the mental health of university students and why that may mean they can't do intensive uni hours plus a job plus social life like you can, and then maybe form an unbiased opinion before you start talking like you understand what anyone has gone through other than yourself 😘😘
Yoongiismysuga at what point did I come across as “angry” so immature to randomly dot your comment with “wow you’re so angry”, “sorry for triggering you” to try and create this narrative that I’m punching walls over your comment. Literally the tactics of a 13 year old. Plus you linked the source about poverty but might want to look at what poverty actually means in the UK its far more than £5 - £10 per week and something like 60% of people living in council housing have their rent fully covered by their housing benefit. Why do you have this idea that I have a biased opinion just because I don’t agree with certain things you say because of the way you’ve presented your points? I’m not blaming anyone for being in the position they’re in I was simply stating that what you said about the government somehow screwing you with your maintenance loan isn’t true 😂 then you try and flip it and say that I blame disabled people for not being able to work just to try and seize some moral high ground. Not going to bother replying again as its a waste of time as you’re just trying to one up every time rather than actually discuss anything.
he didn't invite you and Angelika on bc he knew you'd destroy him and that's the tea
Who is Angelika, what's her account name? 😊
Cook angelika oles!! she's another commentary channel !! super smart and well thought through ☺️
Facts🙌
@@StarshipSophie22 thank you, I will have to check her out!
The Tory Tea
By Alfie’s logic at the start. I cannot judge hitler because I didn’t meet him, I must instead be neutral on him and so should the rest of the planet
that's two completely different things.
ivy obviously he’s not like Hitler and the person making this comment is not really implying it, but by saying it’s unfair to criticize someone you don’t know when they’ve publicly messed up can be compared, you don’t have to know someone to recognize they made a mistake and to critique them for it
because hitler was a man who was a murderer. when it comes to evil spirited, phobic & etc. you can easily judge. but slamming someone for selling books, merch & earning money & one or two times doing something ignorant (though at the time not realized) things, isn't a big factor as to someone's character. nowadays there's a cancel & woke culture that wants people to stand up to their mistakes, but even after that happens there's already a trend to shit on them and hate them for everything they do. in reality, you don't know alfie, you don't know jack, you don't know any of these people. a ten minute video is easily manipulated & let's be honest a lot of situations about alfie, zoe & many other people have been taken out of context and out of nothing turns to the next world problem.
ivy Your missing the point; he’s not criticizing or comparing him to Hitler, just pointing out how flawed and stupid his logic is because it’s not really applicable, and he’s proving his point by using a hiperbole
ivy Completely missed the point.
He chose the softest critique people imalexx and inabber are about as intimidating as my 80 year old nan and she has no teeth
Tbf nans are intimidating especially when they have a handbag
@@dannyclarke5266 haha
I feel sorry for Alex, I really do. Hes shy, not good with confrontation, he has a bit of anxiety and he has a very low self esteem. On top of that, he "knows his place"
And with that I mean, that he knows that he has less power than Alfie (money, success, etc), is younger than him and has a relatively new channel (in comparison to Alfie). He automatically has a tad bit of respect and is intimidated by Alfies success and by Alfies passive aggressive mannerisms.
He came in as support and expected to be the hand in the background that's holding Fraser up, but ended up being the main target and being attacked relentlessly.
Alfie fucked them up and did them dirty with his strategy.
Fraser however expected to be the main target and was pleasently surprised when he saw that he wouldnt be the main target. Therefor he gave better answers since he was better prepared and was payed off gently.
I feel so damn sorry for Alex, he didn't deserve that. And I feel sorry for Fraser since he's a good person and probably didn't expect the meeting to turn out like that and then to not be in the position to defend his friend out of respect and the power imbalance.
Alfie is a proper scumbag
@Wucken Fasted The problem isn't that he's shy, it's that he wasn't given a chance to prepare because he wasn't expecting to be debated with because that's not what they agreed upon. Alfie is the one who flipped the script on them and turned it into a confrontation instead of a conversation, he constantly interrupted Fraiser (who he was supposed to be talking with, not Alex) and kept targeting Alex.
As someone with anxiety myself, I am totally up for a debate if I have time to prepare, but if I were put on the spot like that by someone super aggressive when that wasn't what I agreed upon, yeah I will start to clam up. But that doesn't mean I'm incapable of debate or shouldn't get into it. Even the best debaters will have trouble if they go into a debate unprepared. Alfie cornered them and turned this into something that wasn't initially agreed upon and he knows damn well that he did it with how prepared he was.
yeah but i do think at the end of the day if your gunna slag someone off on youtube have the balls to back up your argument face to face. u can’t really say he can’t handle the confrontation when he’s posting videos with an opinion asking for it to get a reaction! i don’t disagree with alex and what he had said but come on back up ur point 😂
@Wucken Fasted lmao u obviously dont know what anxiety is. you can debate over the internet and back yourself up over the internet its just when it sin person that anxious people turn very shy. also why do yall always bring that into everything. someone will be talking about him hitting 2 mill or something in his video and yall will always say "YeH bUT Hes DoG to His FriEnDS" like yeh sure bring it up in conversations when it matters but u cant just bring it up whenever u want, becasue it doesnt make sense lmao. him being shy doesnt have anything to do with his faling out
@@abbiejohnston903 its not about "having the balls" he litteraly has anxiety. im sure hed love to go off at alfie but he physically cant. you cant say someone cant have a commentary youtuber career if they have anxiety and cant defend themsleves in person. the internet is the INTERNET beef on youtube stays on youtube everyone knows that. you see that person in real life and your nice to them thats just how it works
That’s weak. You can’t go criticising people behind a camera then get scared in real life it’s called being a coward. Don’t say shit about people that you can’t say to their face. Alex is a coward for not standing by what he said. Doesn’t matter if he was targeted, his criticisms were mostly good (apart from the merch) he just needed to believe himself and like I said, everyone knows if you can’t say something to someone’s face then you should really just shut the fuck up and not be a person that can only talk shit behind people’s backs, it’s a terrible trait to have.
Alfie: Goes on video to hear what people think about him
Also Alfie: Doesn’t let them speak
I'm surprised, no comments?
@@izziegaywood7413 🤣🤣 Tm what a neek
he's like ruddy Piers Morgan. Never lets anyone speak. They are just there for him to spout what he thinks.
@@robertnettleship5467 Ooh sorry hard
The way Alfie swears makes me feel uncomfortable...
me too
James Chris its not the words, its the way he says them
James Chris
you really don’t get it, do you...
@James Chris you didn't understand it
Especially “bullshit” 😂😂😨
Alfie should sit down with Jack and try interrupting and smacking the table, acting all aggressive and trying to be intimidating. He would finally be told straight up facts abt what he’s done
ngl it made me really uncomfortable the way alfie pointed at Alex's jumper. he literally shoved his finger to his chest with no warning. his body language speaks volumes on how above everyone he thinks he is.
Se Se thanks for your concern, I do pretty well in the real world, especially when people respect each other’s personal space and boundaries. I tend not to shove my finger into over people’s chest as I find that extremely disrespectful and insulting but you do you man x
I was SO annoyed with all of his interrupting! He came in so defensive but then tried to make it seem like it was some amazing big brave thing he was doing
Hes a narcissist this was more about forcing others in line with his way of thinking rather than actually being interested in the reasons why they made those comments hes so arrogant.
@Summer Maxwell spot on
Summary:
Alfie Deyes is still a tory prick
Alex retracts every single word he's ever said but we still love him
and Fraser is an angel who couldn't finish one sentence
Annie sp8 that’s the perfect summary
Yep pretty much
Ella Parks do you not understand jokes. Yikes
If Alfie GENUINELY has nothing to be ashamed of and believes he doesn’t deserve the criticism he has received, he would make a video with this guy.
As a published author I want to clarify something Alfie said - he may have 'only' received £4,000 for the book's advance fee, but that's just the upfront money you get before publication. Once it starts selling and makes more than £4,000 in profit, he'll also get royalties on top of that, aka a percentage of each book sold. So he probably earned a shit load considering how well it sold. Conveniently he didn't mention that... ha.
He's obviously invited some of The Most Awkward people, people that obviously don't like confrontation and he's using his power against them to intimidate. Honestly should've got jaackmate in this interview, it would have gone a lot different.
kokobuns exactly
Alfie wouldnt dare have a set up argument/debate with Jack....not in a million years.....if he knows whats good for him anyway...lol Jack would have him stutterin and shit.... He would look even more dumb than he did in this...and with ZERO confidence/table bashing. Lol
@@becky7854 or he would smash the entire table in half and Jack would scream at him "the fuck you do that for?" and they would fight. Can go either damn way with two PROPER MALES.
Even Angelika would of been better
@@likemysnopp Alfie isn't a proper male 😂
He's not gonna pick you though jack, coz you'd absolutely destroy him
I like Alfie but god how rude was he in this video. Alex was very shy and ran all over. He totally should have had jack on seriously.
@@emilyhirst4329 hmmmm sure lmao well maybe you're an irrelevant 12 year old that learnt that word off your dad and Alfie doesn't know exists
Alfie interrupting and speaking so condescendingly is pissing me off
Alfie: "Don't hold back. Say what you wanna say. Swear if you'd like."
Also Alfie: Is the only one who swears and has a generally hostile approach towards the other two
Also also Alfie: ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME. NO RAGRETS
alfie is so irritating in this video.
also don’t know why he thinks he’s suddenly hard by swearing
that’s all x
I like how Alfie told them they could swear 😂
Don't call out Alfie he said fuck a couple of times absolute unit
looooooooooooool
@@helengraceashcroft that was my fave part, giving them permission to swear then demonstrating it 😂😂
@@user-qh9jl1ph8n thank you!
Dude. Alfie didn't invite you to talk cause he knew you would make valid informed point.
@@trinity3272 1000%
Burn Galaxy and he wouldn’t have been afraid to stand up to him
Absolutely
What gets me is the fact that they're in Alex's house and alfie is the one at the head of the table slamming his fists on it and poking at Alex while he and Fraser are on the sidelines. You best believe he wouldn't get away with doing that in my house.
he didn’t invite jack cause he’s scared of jack 😂😂
He's so openly aggressive and it's making me uncomfortable even though I'm just watching on my phone :/
Who?
21jd_ who?
naturalnesting Alfie I think mate
Same here :(
Cool, pussy. Welcome to reality. Now stop being uncomfortable with being confronted for being a prick.
New CZcams is BRUTAL: Alfie's video has 375k views with his 5.1mil subs and this response has over 800k
@Youna McGrath tbh it's karma like hell am I gonna watch a famous CZcamsr try to bully two people into taking back criticisms paha
And it doesn’t help that the horse (Alfie) censors his comments just like Zoe.
Cause Noone could endure his video without commentary making fun of him or dismantling his arguments
He doesn't have 5mil anymore
his video basically has a fifty-fifty reaction ratio as well, haha. and yet all of the comments are in his favour.
I feel like the only reason Alfie didn’t invite Jack was because he’s low key scared he’s gonna get wrecked 😂
First criticism: is about being rich and not relatable anymore
Alfie: stacks his two phones
I'm sure that alongside his massive spread of employees he was bragging about that he has a member of staff specifically tasked with looking after BOTH phones.
Angelika and Jack should’ve done the interview, they would’ve kept it more real instead of being intimidated by Alfie like Alex and Fraser were
Yeah
i don’t think fraser was really intimidated by him because he had the balls to disagree with alfie on some points unlike alex
Yes. Yes
nikki am x x good point actually, it’s a shame alfie didn’t let fraser actually criticise him, it would’ve been easier to sit though if alfie could actually take negative feedback
Sophie Mather IKR! The whole time he was trying to fire back at them both
alfie sounds like an 8 year old swearing every 2 seconds to sound cool
Alfie is a passive aggressive liddle control freak who lured these two dumb idiots into his lair to annihilate them with his condescending arrogance. Alfie has morphed into a sanctimonious phoney crook
Tilly Sanders perfect analysis
Tilly Sanders kowalski analysis
xo fr😂
His voice is SO FUCKING ANNOYING
This lad talking about his 'small' advance for a book, I can tell you right now that is a big old advance in the publishing industry, especially considering he didn't really write it. Imagine moaning about getting 4k. Madness.
i feel so bad for alex tbh alfie was having a right go at him for speaking his mind
@Wucken Fasted first r u rlly that disconnected that u think ppl who make COMMENTARY actually have beef? lmao youtubers have common knowledge that that shit stays on youtube, you dont ever have to confront ppl. ALSO hes not backing himself up becasue hes obviously very uncomfortable and ahs anxiety. also stop bringing up that hes a dog in every conversation. it doesnthave any correlation in this convo and just makes you seem like a obsessed dick. if u dont like him dont watch him just to hate on him.
I hope one day Alfie decides to man up and face Jack 😂😂 id pay to see that happen live
He doesn't have the balls 🤣 Jaack will destroy him and he knows it
If Alfie can make money on it, he’d probably more interested in it 😂
He doesn't need to face him he's busy living his own life
@@wrench804 clearly not that busy, otherwise he wouldn't have invited a pair of naive kids to come get slated on his podcast unknowingly. He doesn't even upload videos to his one channel anymore it seems, jack should fit right in his schedule.
TBF he went on True Geordie Podcast, and that took a bit of guts as they as ripped him apart...but he’s definitely dodging Jack
Alfie thought he was so hard swearing ahaha, definitely invited the two younger/less physically threatening lads and cornered them when they were unprepared, was really disappointed in Alex especially
Melissa Alex live streamed on the situation. Apparently jack does the exact same things that jack accused alfie of. He said jack is a hypocrite for what he is saying. And Alex said that jack kicked Alex off their show at vidcon last minute leaving him not being able to go in. Alex said jack backstabbed him.
@@peytonp1236 sis im not attacking you but why are you replying the same thing on every single comment that point out something negative about alfie? ive literally seen 6 or 7 of the same reply
I guess at the moment I was frustrated bc I didn’t want Alex to be put in a negative light. People didn’t know the whole story Ig. I know it is very repetitive.
@@peytonp1236
But that doesn't explain why he didn't speak his truth at the interviews. Him and Jack falling out has nothing to do with how he handled this interview
Find it interesting how different Alfie was around TrueGeordie when they met to talk about his criticisms.
I just think Alfie and Zoe are the embodiment of capitalism
I feel so genuinely bad for Alex here cause he’s admitted before that things like this bring out his anxiety
yeh and everyones giving him shit for it :( he wasnt even there to debate he was just a mediator and everyones saying he shouldnt do commentary if he cant say shit in real life which is a very flawed logic lmao
I have absolutely zero sympathy for this dude. He doesn't care about other people's mental health when he spreads dangerous misinformation about them but he can't handle it in a confirmation? He's so annoying
I think Alfie knows these two guys are really too nice to be brutally honest against him in person. Yourself and Angelika should have come on instead to keep everything 💯
Atsuyo Fully agree! Honestly would loveeee to see what Jack and Angelica have to say to him hahah
Totally agree! Should've been Angelika and Jack
It was a very smart PR move, it appeared Alfie was addressing the subject but with people who also had their own eyes firmly on their own image for their own brands and that showed in how they answered if you contrast some of their recent comments in the recent work they have done. Personally think iNabber came out of it better out of the 3 purely for holding some integrity, never really watched his content before but he made his points where he felt that he didn't agree even if it was met with being spoken over half way through, which if you were a smaller CZcamsr on a larger channel you'd conceed this to avoid the footage just being cut.
Alex really showed zero backbone in this and that's a little disappointing.
If you're gonna criticise someone, have the confidence to stick up for your point when confronted.
I think he felt a bit awkward
@@rachel7196 thats no excuse
I mean everyone’s gonna feel so uncomfortable to tell someone why they said those things about them to their face - BUT he agreed to the video which he should’ve have if he wasn’t gonna rip into Alfie
@Rachel Miles no
@@ashclark3082 Exactly! I get that it's possibly his anxiety and all making him stay more quiet, but no one forced him to do the video, he could've easily turned it down.
does the way alfie pronounces his 's' sounds really piss anyone else off
It's a bit suspicious that there are weekly comments under this video, yet if you go over to Alfie's video with ImAllexx and INabber, there hasn't been ONE comment in over a year. And any of the comments that are there, are all positive and in support of Alfie...Something fishy going on there
he filters comments
@@bestmusicbyanyonenamedlial He buys likes and subs too.
Just imagine if it was Angelika oles and jaackmaate that would have been the most awkward podcast ever he hates Alfie and she hates zoella
I feel like she hates everyone. Like if I were to meet her, I'd feel like she hates me
that would be fucking brilliant :')
If Alfie actually wanted this to be genuine that would have happened
Honestly Angelika would have killed Alfie like I’d be scared for his life
I don't think they hate alfie or zoella. Angelika and Jackmate are just blunt but i have never seen any hate in their videos, only opinions that are delivered in a more aggresive way. And that's the reason why these two commentary channels are the best (in my opinion)
Alex’s pandering in this video comes off as disingenuous. If you backtrack your views to avoid confrontation, then maybe making a living off critical commentary isn’t for you
Yeah calling your subscribers stupid... not a good move
Agreed. Nothing against him but he’s in the wrong job...
I've noticed that trend with Alex I wont lie, I remember some podcast when true geordie said he actually had respect for keemstar and didn't mind him. Alex was suddenly like "yeah tbf I haven't met him, apparently he's alright!" when previously amongst Jack he had no time for him, and called him the worst.
Emma Kim Haha. I picked up on that at the time, as well. Keyboard warrior is the common terminology....
definitely . undermines the integrity of his opinions for sure, lost a bit of respect for him there
i've just gone onto the original podcast, it has 15K likes, 11K dislikes. however, after scrolling for about 5 minutes, i couldn't find a single comment against him... coincidence? i think not.
There was negative comments but they've seemingly disappeared, hmm
I reallyyyy want to see jack in an interview with Alfie, Alfie probably picked the 2 most socially awkward people, and jack would really rip him a new one...
love them saying "only" £4000 like that isn't MULTIPLE months pay for a lot of people, like that isn't months and months worth of rent for a lot of people. christ, i'd love to get £4000 for doing the bare minimum of work in "writing" a shite excuse for a book.
Yep and that was just the advance! Once the advance was made back, he would have earned more profit but of course he didn't mention that...
@@morethangreens - after the initial burst of sales (which is where the 4 grand figure came from), the rate of sales for that book dropped off dramatically and once a lot of his fans had purchased the book, relatively very few books would have been sold. Today, I would have thought that the sales of that book would be tiny.
I work for the NHS. £4000 for me would be 3 months' salary, and £4000 for me would cover 11 months' rent. Sickens me that they don't even realise that £4k is actually a hell of a lot of money to some people, and we work damn hard for it... Unlike some who blatantly rip off others' work (cough wreck this journal cough)
@@showmoke He said the £4K was his advance, which means he got that before the book was even published. I don't know how much he made from the book but I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have made that £4K back and then some pretty easily. There was a second (maybe third?) book as well so he would have made a pretty decent profit overall. It just seemed a bit disingenuous to mention the figure of £4K as if that's "all" he made from the book.
But in any case, I agree with Jack's point that it wasn't about how much he made, it was the fact that he obviously did it for the money. I don't have a problem with CZcamsrs trying to make extra money but in this case, the product was terrible and a massive rip-off of another book already on the market.
I think that’s fair but 4000 is also less than what people assumed he made when they claim he got “massive amounts of money.” Like I would assume he made hundreds of thousands from the book, so hearing he made “only 4000” is a surprisingly low number relative to what the expectation of what he made was.
His ADVANCE was four grand. His ADVANCE!! That means that what he was paid to write it was four grand. NOT what he then MADE off of it.
I noticed that too! He was very clever in that video to dodge around questions that may make him look bad
He also made money from the book tour...
Thank you! That bothered me. Also, was that just for his first book? Before they knew how well the books would do? Because chances are the advance on the other books was a lot more
That’s what I was thinking, I was like “wait isn’t that an advance rather than the total profit” 🤔
Ffs why hasn’t a debate with Jack & Alfie happened yet
Was nice of him to give everyone permission to swear. What a guy.
So in conclusion, Alex needed Jack there. He really needed Jack there. Poor Alex doesn’t know how to deal with criticism, and I love Alex and have been subscribed to him for ages but realistically he was not prepared for Alfie being a sarcastic twat and not being able to handle the criticism. Inabber did ok tho
Alex and iNabber were good choices for Alfie. They were chosen because he could KNOW that they would back down to him. They're both pretty weak
Eoin McGuinness yes! i feel sorry for alex bc he’s not quite at the same level of confrontation and like... he’s not as good at standing up for himself! like i love his content but didn’t do the best in this podcast honestly
Alex just said that jack blocked alfie so he couldn’t invite him anyway. And now Alex and jack aren’t friends. Alex live streamed on the situation today
@@peytonp1236 Still Jack would still be on Alex and Nabber's side though wouldn't he?
Alex said that jack does the exact same things that jack accused alfie of. He said jack is a hypocrite for what he is saying. And Alex said that jack kicked Alex off their show at vidcon last minute leaving him not being able to go in. Alex said jack backstabbed him.
Yuck. What happened to Alfie? “My producers, my staff..” He used to be shy stuffing marshmallows in his mouth with Marcus Butler. He’s become unrelatable. But that’s what success can do to young people.
Nyree Wade I honestly think Zoe changed Alfie
For me that is why Jenna marbles is god tier she never uses her money or fame for content or to show it off her content has stayed the same and it’s amazing
@@avah5013 she's left youtube, though, hasn't she? i wish i'd watched her sooner, she's everywhere.
made me so annoyed when Alfie said “do u know how many other people made a £1 for a day video before me” like yes Alfie we do so why did u need to do one n buy a beard comb how much was that Alfie ????? 3p honestly annoys me.
Alfie clearly chose the two quietest, wimpy white boys he could to have for that video. He repeatedly cuts them off and uses the most open ended arguments against them because he knows he's not going to get a response that makes him look bad, he will only lead the argument to a point where he is right. What absolute horseshit.
Annoys me so much how Alfie keeps interrupting Fraser, what was even the point 😂
I feel like Fraser really had the best and most solid points out of all three of them so it was extremely frustrating when Alfie would cut him off.
jaidadraco Ikr he wouldn’t even let him get halfway through a sentence before he’d be saying something that’s completely out of context, it’s maddening. If he didn’t wanna listen to criticism and their opinions he shouldn’t have made the video and that’s the tea☕️
I'm sorry, I know he's your mate, but Alex totally bottled it here. That's why Alfie invited him on, because he knew he's not confident enough to call someone out face to face.
I don't think they are even mates anymore.
@@williamsutton6866 do you mind explaining what happened?
@@nalad9387 apparently Jack threw Alex under the bus??? Just search up imallex and jaackmaate drama
William Sutton They are, it’s resolved
His attorney probably advised him to invite these two because they're so timid and awkward agh
Alfie looks like a budget Russell Brand with half the brain
Half is a huge compliment
wow alfie is annoying. inviting people then not letting them speak because you're afraid they have a point? thanks for the video jack, 100% agree with you. also i'm kinda disappointed by alex.
Reason they didn't soeak is because Alfie is in love with his own voice
He basically invited them so he could intimidate them into agreeing with his points and essentially pull the commentary channels into a tighter, more direct group and dissect them to pull evil from them. Which he’s technically not allowed to do because he said himself, he can’t review or have an opinion on anything if he’s not a professional in it..
I tell you what I’d pay good money to see Alfie and you around a table - that I’d love to pay for 😂
Pasha Hughes seeing alfie, he doesnt have the balls to do that with someone who’d genuinely not be smothered by his cockiness and have something to say back
Alex bottled it , he just got shook of Alfie and used Jake Paul as a scapegoat
he wasnt prepared to debate lmao,, he was meant to be a mediator, not to debate
@@2triidoodle970 ^^
Alfie didn’t ask Jack because he knew he’d be destroyed in every argument
Not to be rude, but Alex did bottle it. He does nothing but slate Alfie online, but when sat opposite, turns into an anxious, quiet mess? Nothing against the lad, but don't say things online that you wouldn't happily say to somebody's face or be willing to have a genuine, honest and adult discussion about. Much love, Jack
Alex hasn't said anything about Alfie in a long time. In fact, neither has Fraser. As stated in the video opinions do change. It just doesn't help that Alfie has notes so he can remember what to say whereas Alex and Fraser have to think on the fly. So unfair.
Hit the nail on the head, I enjoy Alex’s content I think he often raises good points but why did he agree to be in this video if he wasn’t going to just concede every point
You need to email Alfie’s “team” and try your best to meet him. I think it’s time for you to put these damn youtubers straight. You are the only person who will put it how it needs to be said!!!
Dais xx yesss I want this to happen...
petition for jack to sit down with alfie and chat
As a book reviewer who was asked to review the very Pointless Book by the publisher, and then told at the last minute that all reviewers were UNinvited from the launch event (after many had booked travel etc) because only big media and friends were welcome... yeah, you didn't ask us mate 💁♀️
I wouldn’t like to see Alfie in an argument with Zoe. Very controlling person
CapGunNonce You’re right...& it’s a scary thought.
maybe just maybe shes even more controlling who knows haha
She’s extremely controlling too so it’d be interesting!
jetadorexx very true
@@jetadorexx This comment makes it sound like you actually know her 😂
Alfie went into that interview with his mind already made up, no intention of listening to criticism. He went into it angry and making iNabber and Alex uncomfortable. Like other comments said Alfie was just bullying them to get the answers he wanted.
fraser or alex: yeah i agree with you
alfie:
fraser or alex: actually in my opinion no
alfie: *bangs table*
You made so many great points, you should become a politician or a lawyer.
I feel really bad for Fraser. For the whole video he looks like he's got so many things to say, so many solid points, but he keeps getting interrupted. kinda shows that alfie's afraid of criticism and ultimately losing his audience and his money because he's been at this for ages and is losing touch rapidly. he should take a break and a step back for a bit and objectively look at what he's doing. i hope iNabber makes a video about all the things he wanted to say- i can see it in his face lmao.
Fraser was impressive as he didn't back down like Alex
Rosemary Abbott agree, Alfie deffo had an objective; to prove these guys wrong, and unfortunately Fraser is way too nice and not an ‘alpha male’ so didn’t make his points heard
Now I know why he didn’t invite jack. Jack would have been able to counter all his points so much better. He kind of took advantage of this situation
Alex and Nabber are big oof
Yeah, other people would have been more assertive and probably be able to tear apart the bullshit points Alfie tries to make pretty fast.
Basically, Alex is all chat on the internet but has no bollocks to do it in person.
hes litteraly there to mediate the convo not to debate. inabber just invited him so they wouldnt go off at eachother
I would pay anything to see a video of you and Alfie omg
When he said majority of his fan base is over 18, all you had to do was cut to the clip of his meetup....point made lol
Literally, that whole thing needs to be redone with Jack and Angelika!
Can't imagine Alfie being able to chat utter bollocks over either of them 😂
Sammi Jones that would be a cracking video.
that would be amazing omg
In all honesty, I'd totally kill to see that video
I don't believe angelika has the guts to do it, shes awesome but I feel like saying those things in person is not her style.
Get Alfie on happy hour
Jack would have absolutely tore Alfie apart.
Kinda wish there was an alternate reality where Jack was there.
Video summarised.
Alfie’s : doesn’t like criticism and is just a twat.
Alex : bottled it and didn’t say what he wants to say.
Fraser : not allowed to talk and constantly interrupted
So Alfie wrote The Pointless Book for the 10% of his audience he thinks are kids? 🤔🤔🤔 I don't think so...
Omg so fucking true.
Good point well made
“You’re assuming I watch your videos” *writes down the exact words they said in a video about him.
It mostly upsets me how aggressive Alfie was he used to be something that young kids would look up to but now it all seems about the money and not the actual enjoyment fans would get out of watching the video 🤷♀️
‘Really cool swearing Alfie, suits ya’ was funny as fuck to me for some reason ahahaha
I don’t personally know Hitler, but I’m pretty sure I disagree with his actions...
Alfie swearing sounds like a year 6 girl telling off a boy for making fun of her friend.
this makes too much sense.
Man I know the whole thing with Alex is over, but it still annoyed me how Alex is so spineless here.
The fact Jack wasnt in that room is the epitome of bottling it from alfie
@w more than likely true.
feel like the reason why they ‘bottled it’ was bc Alfie was being quite aggressive and condescending, he also interrupted them alot so it must of knocked there confidence🤷🏼♀️
Nah that's no excuse for them bottling it. No excuse whatsoever, particularly on Alex.
Secular Scot true but if u put yourself in their shoes you can understand why - it was a awkward atmosphere in my opinion and alfies attitude towards them didnt help.
India Grace yeah but still bottling it, if u can say it on camera about someone have the balls to say it to their face
Lolhayles i suppose but its kind of a different scenario they obviously already felt intimated by him as i assume this was on his channel and he is obviously a bigger youtuber, he constantly interrupted what they were saying to almost belittle what they had to say but i agree if they say shit to an audience they should be able to say what they actually mean irl - i just dont believe that in an argument you can win by repeating the same thing and being louder and interrupting the other person like he brought them on to ask them questions but whats the point if he isnt being open and allowing them to answer without being judged
Their
*i feel like alfie didn’t ask you to come because he knew you would be confident enough to say your points out loud and call him out there, unlike Fraser who had VERY good points but seemed apprehensive to say them* ❤️😂
This is just half an hour of Alfie Deyes digging himself a big fucking hole
i feel like everyone needs someone like jack in there life, someone who accepts when they are wrong but stands for what he believes in. He also lets his mates know when they are wrong what a great person
Alfie being defensive for 30 minutes straight
Alfie Deyes: Oh bloody hell! Jack’s peasants are hurting my feelings too much
*ZOE GET ME MY SPECIAL FILTERED PARADISE BLESSED H20 WATER!*
WE'RE ALL OUT, WE ONLY HAVE...
*sob* ... TAP WATER
HOW WILL ZOELLA AND ALFIE SURVIVE IN THIS PESANT WORLD 😭
Zoella you didn’t put it in my diamond encrusted freshly polished sparkling glass
😂😂😂😂😂
• Holly •: Did you say *gasps* heathen water? The horror 😨
alex, a yes men when confronted...
If that's the only thing you're taking from that video, you're an absolute clown
@@connorlynch428 Cause he’s only really be “Confronted a few times”.