What I love about this episode is when Sarah says 'Charlie's a really special friend isn't he?' she knows right there deep down that there's something more than friendship but she respects Nick and doesn't press him to come out to her she just leave it at him saying 'yeah he is' - it's such a special moment 🥺❤️
The way that Kit is able to convey certain emotions only through is facial expressions is still so remarkable to me! I’m in awe of his acting skills, especially considering he’s still so young! I so can’t wait for season 2!!!!!
Can't agree more. At that age his understanding of expression through body language and keeping it so small and not over acted. Truly kit Connor is going to be a force to be reckoned with. I'm envisioning numerous awards. Hmmm. EGOT ? I'll have to see more his musical capabilities
I'm so glad you mentioned how the subtlelty of the ED hints is a mirror for how subtle symptoms of mental illness can be in real life, because even after God knows how many rewatches and having read the comics, I hadn't noticed that parallel
This! I head read the comics before I watched the show (at least 5 times each) and I picked up on this the first time through. It's so subtle, but its there and you can kind of tell the moment his mental health starts to go in this episode.
I picked up on so many of the subtle clues in the later episodes, but during a recent rewatch of the series I also noticed how in episode 1, when Tori finds him in the kitchen with a bowl of cereal, he never actually takes a bite of it. He just sloshes it about with the spoon while telling her that he broke up with his “boyfriend.” So subtle and heartbreaking once you notice it. 🥺💔
I had heard that S2 might focus more on his ED and I did pick up on the subtle signs of it throughout the season, from Tori offering to make him pizza or Nick asking if he wants something here at the movie theater, to lunches alone where he doesn't seem to eat much to the cereal in the kitchen.
@@Peaches4167 in fact the only time you really see him intake calories is the milkshake cafe. Any stresser in his life and the symptoms rise to the surface. It's so well done. Bravo Euros and Alice
@@treycummins3102 Bravo, indeed. This show is just a masterpiece of an adaptation. Such a rich, layered tapestry that withstands multiple viewings. A truly special feat.
When Charlie says that Nick isn't his type, you feel Nick's hurt, not just in his face....but the director does a very subtle and smart camera trick when Nick's reaction is shown....the camera ever so slightly moves back and upward....actually making Nick look like he is shrinking or deflating slightly. Look for it.... it's very effective and subtle, adding to the facial expression by Kit.
There is a good chance that Netflix will adapt at least Radio Silence, Solitaire, and maybe Nick and Charlie. If you notice Alice herself, she rewrote the character of Aled and transformed him into Issac with the possibility of an adaptation, Tori is a great big sister and her story should be told because she is great.
@@JackieRossLavender - Radio Silence is so good! (You questioned Isaac's sexuality because of Tao saying he's the token straight friend - in Radio Silence, you'll find out about Aled's place in the LGBTQIA+ community. Not sure if Isaac would be the same.) Alice edited Solitaire a bit in 2020 and made Nick & Charlie's characters more in line with how they are in Heartstopper. It's weird to read the version before the edits (I read it on the Google preview)
The show does such a great job of foreshadowing Charlie's eating disorder because every time he says he's not hungry, there's usually something terrible going on at the time and you just think to yourself that he's upset and just doesn't feel like eating. You don't think it's anything more serious than that.
What intrigues me about Harry is his expression in the cinema when Nick leaves to go after Charlie, the guys are behind him, and the camera is on his face. Something is very different about him in that moment and I want to really really know what it is. For most of his scenes he’s being quite performative, but in that moment he is truly just purely exuding an honest and direct seething negative emotion. That really made me wonder. I have a few head canons about Harry. Ironically he’s the most intriguing character for me, for the very reason that he’s not as clearly explored as all the others.
Couldn’t agree more about that shot. Whilst it will never excuse his actions I would be very interested to know more about Harry. Especially as he features in an almost redemption arc in the novella Nick and Charlie!
The eating disorder was immediately obvious to me as someone who grew up with an eating disorder. It was as obvious to me as the fact that Tara and Darcy are together when Darcy says “best gal pals” and Tara stares her down.
Funny you point out that harry still denies being homophobic. That's what so different from my generation. Growing up in the 80s bully's were most like the girls school. "lesbians are so gross". There was no pretend acceptance harry would have happily wrapped himself in the nomenclature of homophobe and quoted the bible or something similar. I know it's hard sometimes to see this as growth but I do ... In fact, notice the reasons he gives for picking on charlie. Yes he's gay but add he's got that weird friend who won't leave me alone. He can't verbally handle tao so he will come at charlie who "knows his place". He also smiles seeing how he's getting under nicks skin. I think this is more a competition for harry than homophobia. Nick is uber popular for just being nick... Harry had to buy his popularity. He even has to ask Nick to invite the cool people to his bday party. I think charlie is just target cause harry is petty yes but just can't hold up against tao and Nick. It's sad but I think your right. I'm guessing his back story would truly make you pity harry. Ben... I'm not so sure. Though I'd bet the family is uber homophobic. And he's clearly self loathing. I find his barbed and far more deeply wounding cuts harder to empathize with. Damn. As always jrl you got me monologuing. I'm ignoring your car. I know how that sucks and I'm sure you want insurance to take it all away. So let's just ignore the dark part of life
I'm sorry to hear about your car. Here's to hoping you get a better one as a silver lining (still doesn't excuse the f@*ks who stole it). Great video, as always!
In the beginning of my endless rewatches of Heartstopper, I couldn’t watch episode 7 without watching episode 8 immediately after. It was just too painfull! But now I don’t even watch it in the correct order, I’m completely chaotic and I’m watching the scenes and reactions that makes me the happiest. But episode 7 is the awful punch to the nose that makes episode 8 all the more satisfying, I need to watch it even when it makes me so incredibly sad or makes my blood boil. Episode 7 is the episode I need to remind me to confront the Harrys of the world. #loveislove
There are a surprising amount of hints as to Harry's back story subtlety written into the show. Many of which come by way of Tao. He's a sad boy who's bullying through pain. Fortunately, Harry works through it and actually turns into a decent guy. Well according to the novella Nick and Charlie anyway. I'm really hoping that is shown in season 2 or 3.
He's clearly extremely insecure too. When he picks on someone, he spends as much time looking over his shoulder to make sure his friends are laughing along.
Hes not a decent guy in the novella, though. Part of what the comic and the novella make clear is that Harry's being homophobic and picks on Charlie because Charlie doeant have many friends and because he thinks it'll make him popular, and by rhe time of the novella, everybody at school are ok with Nick and Charlie being gay and they're popular, so Harry is friendly to Charlie because he wants to be popular. It's not a real change of heart. He's just trying to chase approval.
I agree, as you mentioned, that the eating disorder signs were very subtle and could be overlooked if one had not read the novels. I did hear that in episode 7 the scene with Nick and Charlie by the popcorn machine had the popcorn in the popper transform into worms when Charlie looked at it (thus helping the viewers see clearly the effects of the disorder). The scene was cut as it was thought to be too dark in an already dark episode. Any thoughts on Elle outing Nick to Tao? Clearly he didn't know. Also, so sorry for the theft of your car, and love your positive attitude. Great job on the reaction videos!!
So interesting to see your reactions and hearing about your own backstory. I can understand why you connect so much with Heartstopper! Have you watched Skam? Season 3 has an extremely touching storyline about a teen guy falling in love with another guy as well. It blew the world away when it aired in 2016, created a massive fandom and won several tv prizes. AND the episodes are quite short (think the shortest are 20 minutes long), easy to binge. You said you loved long tv shows with lots of episodes, but I promise from the depths of my bottomless heart that you are gonna love the compressed sweetness of it, even though it is one hell of a rollercoaster ride! I think Alice Oseman might've been inspired by it, I see some similarities at least. I cannot recommend that show and especially that season enough - hope you'll react to it :)
@@mjuwsek Pleasr continue to do it! I found it after binging the hell out of Heartstopper and found it to be most similar in feel…romantic, sweet, hot, and LOVE LOVE LOVE!
Honestly think they'll have to include Solitaire due to the time-lines overlapping. The alternative is to condense Heartstopper or alter its universe somehow. The first season covers several months so my guess is season three will likely include Solitaire content. I agree wholeheartedly, Tori is great and deserves more attention in show. I have five sisters, four that are harshly homophobic. I totally understand how baffling & infuriating that can be. Ah, misappropriated religion; how I loathe thee! As for Harry, he's just a not-so-bright guy who wants to be popular. He presumes he deserves popularity as status due to his familial wealth. He learned somewhere along the way that bullying others gets him attention. He stupidly mistakes his peer's fear for esteem & friendship.
Dang that sucks about the car. Glad you’re alright 😊. I know what you mean about the music, she’s done a great job with making you feel so much emotion.
I usually find the music fits a scene. What strikes me about heartstopper is how the lyrics also have that symbiosis with the scene. That's truly an art form. It's the kind of creativity we don't get in most tv series
i know what happen here about harry picking on charlie and nick told him to stop and when harry say what about nick and when charlie said nick not his type he only trying to potect nick so he can feel comble with his friends he only saying that to them that nick not but charlie knows he is so he was standing up for him self and nick as well. sorry about the spelling
This is the episode where all of the little changes from the books become very obvious. I really hope in the next series they reintroduce the 3 friends of Nicks because they are major side characters and they show real growth in the books Also, I don’t think it’s in keeping with her character for Elle to out Nick to anyone and that’s basically what she does when she tells Tao that Charlie and Nick are going out. The reason Tao wasn’t told makes way more sense in the books. Here it seems like it was included for dramatic effect and it created Tao in a much more possessive and unreasonable manner which he never was in the books. Sigh…onto episode 8 where everything is good again z😍
Hey, speaking of rollercoasters on short episodes... You definitely have to watch and react to the OG SKAM series S3. There are masters of these special topic and you will absolutely getting emotional and will enjoy it. And we will be on your side 😉 Greetings from Berlin 😎
so I've watched all your videos so far and I've noticed something. please don't take this as a bad thing though but since episode 4 we see less of the show and what you are reacting to if that makes sense. like editing makes it feel out of sync slightly and we get less show time and see your reaction but don't know what to and it seems.the show part is very speeded up itself. just a little snippet for future videos. Honestly not being a knob and hope you have a good day, also so sorry about your car. Some dirty people see what others have and instead of going and getting it they just take yours.
I do appreciate what you’re saying. unfortunately, being confined to CZcams’s really strict copyright rules often causes these videos to be jump cut a lot. This particular episode got a copyright strike before it went public so I had to re-edit it and re upload it. Trust me, it’s not how I wanted these videos to be. If I could upload the full reaction straight to CZcams I would. Appreciate your comments though. I’ll try even harder to make it more coherent.
Sucks to hear your car was stolen 😔 hope you get sorted with alternative transport for the time being! Thought you were on the money about how Charlie doesn't take Harry's bait, he doesn't waste time! This is always the hardest episode for me to watch but my god did we need a dramatic penultimate moment so we could all be swept up by the happy ending.
@@canny_linguist oh, absolutely! I was trying to sell the car anyway so luckily not having one now isn’t affecting me. Praise be for those regular buses and tubes in London!!
Hi, guys. Everytime I watch Heartstopper season 1 (my son CAN'T stop watching it!! 😂😂😂), I pay close attention to every single Nick's reaction to the situations he is in. The fight between Nick and Harry happens because it was the last straw. Nick couldn't be lenient at that very moment. But, why has that fight happened? If we remember, Nick got angry at Harry on episode 3, told Charlie, for the first time, he didn't like his mates because they were totally different from Charlie. But, did he get away from them? No. When Harry and his nasty followers go look for Nick (after the kiss), Nick says everything is ok. No!!! Nothing was ok. Harry, as usual, was nasty, disgusting. But why has Nick accepted that? Because he is negatively sensible, as Charlie is negatively sensitive. This is the reality! If we pay attention, on episode 4, Nick wants Charlie to keep their relationship as a secret. And, by doing that, his unquestionable "straightness" wouldn't become questionable. Also, nothing wouldn't change in his ordinary routine, and he'd be able to carry on fearless. On the other hand, Charlie took all the responsibility for he is out. That wasn't fair, indeed. If Nick had broken up with those nasty guys, he wouldn't have gotten into that fight. What made him not do it? Fear and cowardice. When someone is negatively sensible, they don't realize they intoxicate themselves and others.
I know there were other things I wanted to say but I've forgotten what they were. The only thing I can remember that I wanted to comment on is that I think you're the only person on here who, like me, would like some background context for Harry's behaviour. While I don't want his story to take up space that could be given to telling the stories of all our under-represented groups (because, let's face it, rich white straight cis boys and their stories have dominated the airwaves for years), I can't help but be curious. Most people though tend to just dismiss him outright, but not you.
I really don't like Charlie's mom at all in the graphic or in the novels. I also didn't like the way Charlie treated Nick in this episode and 8. His non communicating when Nick is so kind and loves him so much and he leaves Nick wondering what is going on kind of breaks my heart. I get why he does but I still don't like it.
As shitty as I can objectively say Ben is, the acting is so bloody phenomenal that I actually feel sorry for Ben in that scene. Or maybe that just tells you more about me, whenever I get attacked I start wondering what the person must be struggling with and want to give them a hug. Yes I have issues and yes I’m in therapy but idk, I think Tao, as a safe person, saying to Charlie that everything is his fault, KNOWING that he has a tendency to blame himself and feel like his existence alone is annoying, is way worse, than what Ben clearly illogically projects and spews out of jealousy and self-hatred. The only reason that what Ben says hits Charlie is because he further gets “confirmation” when Tao and Nick get into fights. Conveniently missing the fact that Harry is involved in both, but there’s a very logical reason for missing that, namely that Charlie takes Harry’s existence as a given one way or another rather than as an individual who’s responsible for his actions and decisions. I hope that makes sense
Sorry to hear about your troubles, mate. The writing is so good because Alice has kept the drama limited to one focus--the boys developing a new relationship and how the supporting characters affect that development. On other shows, Charlie would be a drug dealer, have an alcoholic father, and Tori cuts herself because she doesn't fit in. Since Nick's dad is French, he is torn between two cultures and two bickering parents, so Nick takes PEDs to remain that rugby star he is to impress the Oxford University rugby scouts. Imogen hasn't been seen since episode 5. Perhaps she is off looking for her estranged mother hoping to move in with her since her dad got a job at Princeton, because Imogen doesn't want to move. None of that was shown since it had nothing to do with the main characters.
I think even with a context of Harry’s stories won’t make anything different. Let’s assume he grew up in a family which is lacking of love, care, or decent education on communication or how to express themselves, or even abused by his parents, that doesn’t make his behaviours any acceptable. A lot of people who were traumatised are still decent to the others. People like Harry must have been encouraged or feel encouraged to do the nasty things. And that’s the disgusting parts. One thing about the homophobic people is that, no matter which generation or culture background they are from, they are OBSESSED with gay people. This obsession is kind of fascinating in a sense. Why? Why are they obsessed? I really wanna talk to one of them and break it down piece by piece to see what they are thinking. Not trying to debate with them or make them progress, but just want to see what they are thinking.
I completely agree with you. It’s not going to make me have any kind of compassion towards him because his actions are unacceptable I just think in the scope of the story it would be interesting to know a little more about him.
Ok so another point came to mind. Sadly my american gaggle of friends use the f.. word all the time to identify ourselves. Im on the fence of whether we are taking this term back like we have queer ? Or just accepting this .... Any thoughts? Along this same lines tara even being coached by an lgbtq+ counselor say. ",her hands are so soft.... That's the gayest excuse I've ever heard.". I have to tell you I cringed. I fight this use of the term for bad or poor designation all the time. Can't tell you the fights I've had with business colleagues over the "God, that's so gay." Comment. If you gonna use that phrase it better be about my irrational love for musical theater or drag. ... Cause admittedly on those I am just that stereotypically gay. And I do not take offense.
I think you didn’t remember because it’s an episode where the crap hits the fan with micro aggressions to flat out blatant and harsh homophobic language with a heaping help of communication failure blowback. Also, a lot of it isn’t in the graphic novel after the cinema fight between Nick and Harry and the toxic confrontation in the parking lot between Ben and Charlie where Ben projects his insecurities to MAXIMUM TW*TAGE bullying. Sorry to hear that some C-word stole your vehicle. Hope they catch the a-hole(s) responsible. You are in need of that season finale goodness to lift you up!
* maybe look into investing into an external video recorder to bypass that ridiculous record limit. That used to be some idiotic limitation years ago, but newer cameras have let go of that limit. Oh well, just wanted to say that, I’m case you weren’t aware 😬
thank you! I am looking at an external recorder it’s just £££. It’s on the list for sure but for now I will have to put up with the record limits. I am looking at getting a new camera body as mine is 4 years old now and the one i’m looking at has no recording limits THANK GOD.
To answer your question, Kids are the way they are because puberty has set in, their chemical balance is all over the place. And there is something inside all of us that is distinctly primal. Yes, we’re talking old caveman days. The strong shall survive and the weak will parish. Just look at, and study, the scene of the Reindeer games from “Rudolph…” They were rough housing, exposing, what they seem to be, a weakness. And they were cheered on by the adult, who should be teaching kindness and understanding. Instead, he imprinted the bad qualities to the masses and imprinted guilt and shame to the one who is different. Sound familiar?
I know patreon is all the rage so you can make more money, but I don't understand a lot of reaction videos that do get uploaded to CZcams. They are so badly edited (cut) that it makes them literally unwatchable.
you have to be really, really careful with reaction videos on youtube because they very easily get a copyright strike and then they get removed which after hours of editing is soul destroying. I would happily have uploaded full videos to youtube otherwise but unfortunately it’s not the case.
@@JackieRossLavender Yeah...totally understand. I enjoy your videos...it just sucks that things are the way they are. TBH, I'm surprised that the full length vids are even allowed on Patreon. Either the studios aren't aware or don't care as it isn't as visible? I don't know. Sorry for the negative comment...your video was like the 5th reaction video I've watched today (probably seen 100+) and its hard to watch because of the cuts ya'll have to do. Edit: I changed my wording from "edited" in my original post to "cut" as that is what I intended (I couldn't remember the word earlier lol).
@@MemphisTiger basically because Vimeo is a paid for platform and doesn’t have as strict copyright rules. I get what you’re saying it is annoying. and in my first reaction I tried to cut as little as possible but it got pulled instantly. It is what it is unfortunately.
What I love about this episode is when Sarah says 'Charlie's a really special friend isn't he?' she knows right there deep down that there's something more than friendship but she respects Nick and doesn't press him to come out to her she just leave it at him saying 'yeah he is' - it's such a special moment 🥺❤️
The way that Kit is able to convey certain emotions only through is facial expressions is still so remarkable to me! I’m in awe of his acting skills, especially considering he’s still so young!
I so can’t wait for season 2!!!!!
Can't agree more. At that age his understanding of expression through body language and keeping it so small and not over acted. Truly kit Connor is going to be a force to be reckoned with. I'm envisioning numerous awards. Hmmm. EGOT ? I'll have to see more his musical capabilities
I'm so glad you mentioned how the subtlelty of the ED hints is a mirror for how subtle symptoms of mental illness can be in real life, because even after God knows how many rewatches and having read the comics, I hadn't noticed that parallel
This! I head read the comics before I watched the show (at least 5 times each) and I picked up on this the first time through. It's so subtle, but its there and you can kind of tell the moment his mental health starts to go in this episode.
I picked up on so many of the subtle clues in the later episodes, but during a recent rewatch of the series I also noticed how in episode 1, when Tori finds him in the kitchen with a bowl of cereal, he never actually takes a bite of it. He just sloshes it about with the spoon while telling her that he broke up with his “boyfriend.” So subtle and heartbreaking once you notice it. 🥺💔
I had heard that S2 might focus more on his ED and I did pick up on the subtle signs of it throughout the season, from Tori offering to make him pizza or Nick asking if he wants something here at the movie theater, to lunches alone where he doesn't seem to eat much to the cereal in the kitchen.
@@Peaches4167 in fact the only time you really see him intake calories is the milkshake cafe. Any stresser in his life and the symptoms rise to the surface. It's so well done. Bravo Euros and Alice
@@treycummins3102 Bravo, indeed. This show is just a masterpiece of an adaptation. Such a rich, layered tapestry that withstands multiple viewings. A truly special feat.
When Charlie says that Nick isn't his type, you feel Nick's hurt, not just in his face....but the director does a very subtle and smart camera trick when Nick's reaction is shown....the camera ever so slightly moves back and upward....actually making Nick look like he is shrinking or deflating slightly. Look for it.... it's very effective and subtle, adding to the facial expression by Kit.
The cinematics of this show really get overlooked but they’re so cleverly thought out.
I loved seeing Charlie having such a supportive Dad. Good Job. Look forward to Episode 8.
Things I could only dream of!
There is a good chance that Netflix will adapt at least Radio Silence, Solitaire, and maybe Nick and Charlie. If you notice Alice herself, she rewrote the character of Aled and transformed him into Issac with the possibility of an adaptation, Tori is a great big sister and her story should be told because she is great.
I really, really hope so. I haven’t read Radio Silence or Solitaire just yet but Nick and Charlie had me WEEPING.
@@JackieRossLavender - Radio Silence is so good! (You questioned Isaac's sexuality because of Tao saying he's the token straight friend - in Radio Silence, you'll find out about Aled's place in the LGBTQIA+ community. Not sure if Isaac would be the same.) Alice edited Solitaire a bit in 2020 and made Nick & Charlie's characters more in line with how they are in Heartstopper. It's weird to read the version before the edits (I read it on the Google preview)
I love the soundtrack for this series! It's just amazing.
isn’t it the best?!
The show does such a great job of foreshadowing Charlie's eating disorder because every time he says he's not hungry, there's usually something terrible going on at the time and you just think to yourself that he's upset and just doesn't feel like eating. You don't think it's anything more serious than that.
Tao's mom is my favorite parent in this series. She knew what was up...
I'm so sorry about your sister. I would be overjoyed having a brother like you. May she someday appreciate it ❤
I think that bridge has been burnt. I have a wonderful new family now with my other half who are incredible ❤️
That broke my heart when you explained your older sister is homophobic, like its 2022 WHYYYYYYY
your guess is as good as mine!
What intrigues me about Harry is his expression in the cinema when Nick leaves to go after Charlie, the guys are behind him, and the camera is on his face. Something is very different about him in that moment and I want to really really know what it is. For most of his scenes he’s being quite performative, but in that moment he is truly just purely exuding an honest and direct seething negative emotion. That really made me wonder. I have a few head canons about Harry. Ironically he’s the most intriguing character for me, for the very reason that he’s not as clearly explored as all the others.
Couldn’t agree more about that shot. Whilst it will never excuse his actions I would be very interested to know more about Harry. Especially as he features in an almost redemption arc in the novella Nick and Charlie!
@@JackieRossLavender Ohh, really? That’s exciting! Do you have any theories about Harry?
The eating disorder was immediately obvious to me as someone who grew up with an eating disorder. It was as obvious to me as the fact that Tara and Darcy are together when Darcy says “best gal pals” and Tara stares her down.
Funny you point out that harry still denies being homophobic. That's what so different from my generation. Growing up in the 80s bully's were most like the girls school. "lesbians are so gross". There was no pretend acceptance harry would have happily wrapped himself in the nomenclature of homophobe and quoted the bible or something similar. I know it's hard sometimes to see this as growth but I do ... In fact, notice the reasons he gives for picking on charlie. Yes he's gay but add he's got that weird friend who won't leave me alone. He can't verbally handle tao so he will come at charlie who "knows his place". He also smiles seeing how he's getting under nicks skin. I think this is more a competition for harry than homophobia. Nick is uber popular for just being nick... Harry had to buy his popularity. He even has to ask Nick to invite the cool people to his bday party. I think charlie is just target cause harry is petty yes but just can't hold up against tao and Nick. It's sad but I think your right. I'm guessing his back story would truly make you pity harry.
Ben... I'm not so sure. Though I'd bet the family is uber homophobic. And he's clearly self loathing. I find his barbed and far more deeply wounding cuts harder to empathize with.
Damn. As always jrl you got me monologuing. I'm ignoring your car. I know how that sucks and I'm sure you want insurance to take it all away. So let's just ignore the dark part of life
never apologise for monologuing!!! I love reading your comments! ❤️
I'm sorry to hear about your car. Here's to hoping you get a better one as a silver lining (still doesn't excuse the f@*ks who stole it).
Great video, as always!
Thank you my friend. Luckily I don’t need a car in London but hoping to not be at a financial loss.
In the beginning of my endless rewatches of Heartstopper, I couldn’t watch episode 7 without watching episode 8 immediately after. It was just too painfull! But now I don’t even watch it in the correct order, I’m completely chaotic and I’m watching the scenes and reactions that makes me the happiest. But episode 7 is the awful punch to the nose that makes episode 8 all the more satisfying, I need to watch it even when it makes me so incredibly sad or makes my blood boil. Episode 7 is the episode I need to remind me to confront the Harrys of the world. #loveislove
There are a surprising amount of hints as to Harry's back story subtlety written into the show. Many of which come by way of Tao.
He's a sad boy who's bullying through pain. Fortunately, Harry works through it and actually turns into a decent guy. Well according to the novella Nick and Charlie anyway. I'm really hoping that is shown in season 2 or 3.
He's clearly extremely insecure too. When he picks on someone, he spends as much time looking over his shoulder to make sure his friends are laughing along.
Hes not a decent guy in the novella, though. Part of what the comic and the novella make clear is that Harry's being homophobic and picks on Charlie because Charlie doeant have many friends and because he thinks it'll make him popular, and by rhe time of the novella, everybody at school are ok with Nick and Charlie being gay and they're popular, so Harry is friendly to Charlie because he wants to be popular.
It's not a real change of heart. He's just trying to chase approval.
We had that group of lads here in SF for a decade called MOVIEBears
I agree, as you mentioned, that the eating disorder signs were very subtle and could be overlooked if one had not read the novels. I did hear that in episode 7 the scene with Nick and Charlie by the popcorn machine had the popcorn in the popper transform into worms when Charlie looked at it (thus helping the viewers see clearly the effects of the disorder). The scene was cut as it was thought to be too dark in an already dark episode.
Any thoughts on Elle outing Nick to Tao? Clearly he didn't know.
Also, so sorry for the theft of your car, and love your positive attitude. Great job on the reaction videos!!
I’m so sorry to hear that. But I’m so glad your feeling as good as you can at this time. I’m so looking forward to watching this.
Thanks, Mary. Appreciate the love. Hope you enjoy!
So interesting to see your reactions and hearing about your own backstory. I can understand why you connect so much with Heartstopper!
Have you watched Skam? Season 3 has an extremely touching storyline about a teen guy falling in love with another guy as well. It blew the world away when it aired in 2016, created a massive fandom and won several tv prizes. AND the episodes are quite short (think the shortest are 20 minutes long), easy to binge.
You said you loved long tv shows with lots of episodes, but I promise from the depths of my bottomless heart that you are gonna love the compressed sweetness of it, even though it is one hell of a rollercoaster ride! I think Alice Oseman might've been inspired by it, I see some similarities at least. I cannot recommend that show and especially that season enough - hope you'll react to it :)
Skam season 3 is my new favorite!!! I also loved Skam Germany (DRUCK) season 3 and the different take they took on things. 💛xo
And for anyone who’s wondering, you don’t “need” to watch all the seasons to connect with season 3. It’s stands alone quite beautifully!
@@heidi_d Exactly, and it’s so unique in its authentic take on youth. Will never stop recommending it!
@@mjuwsek Pleasr continue to do it! I found it after binging the hell out of Heartstopper and found it to be most similar in feel…romantic, sweet, hot, and LOVE LOVE LOVE!
Honestly think they'll have to include Solitaire due to the time-lines overlapping. The alternative is to condense Heartstopper or alter its universe somehow. The first season covers several months so my guess is season three will likely include Solitaire content.
I agree wholeheartedly, Tori is great and deserves more attention in show. I have five sisters, four that are harshly homophobic. I totally understand how baffling & infuriating that can be. Ah, misappropriated religion; how I loathe thee!
As for Harry, he's just a not-so-bright guy who wants to be popular. He presumes he deserves popularity as status due to his familial wealth. He learned somewhere along the way that bullying others gets him attention. He stupidly mistakes his peer's fear for esteem & friendship.
Dang that sucks about the car. Glad you’re alright 😊. I know what you mean about the music, she’s done a great job with making you feel so much emotion.
I usually find the music fits a scene. What strikes me about heartstopper is how the lyrics also have that symbiosis with the scene. That's truly an art form. It's the kind of creativity we don't get in most tv series
Maybe there's a roving band of ice cream van-based car theives?
🤣🤣🤣 this is very possible!
i know what happen here about harry picking on charlie and nick told him to stop and when harry say what about nick and when charlie said nick not his type he only trying to potect nick so he can feel comble with his friends he only saying that to them that nick not but charlie knows he is so he was standing up for him self and nick as well. sorry about the spelling
Your car got whuuuuuut... 😵💫
Oh my... Hope they can retrieve it.
Doesn’t look promising, unfortunately. Insurance should cover it for the most part but it’s still been a really shit experience!
@@JackieRossLavender it sure is... but still fingers crossed 🤞
This is the episode where all of the little changes from the books become very obvious.
I really hope in the next series they reintroduce the 3 friends of Nicks because they are major side characters and they show real growth in the books
Also, I don’t think it’s in keeping with her character for Elle to out Nick to anyone and that’s basically what she does when she tells Tao that Charlie and Nick are going out.
The reason Tao wasn’t told makes way more sense in the books. Here it seems like it was included for dramatic effect and it created Tao in a much more possessive and unreasonable manner which he never was in the books.
Sigh…onto episode 8 where everything is good again z😍
Same I want to see Harry’s past
omg this is so weird… I am making my way through the series again and I filmed this episode yesterday and I said the same thing again!
Hey, speaking of rollercoasters on short episodes... You definitely have to watch and react to the OG SKAM series S3. There are masters of these special topic and you will absolutely getting emotional and will enjoy it. And we will be on your side 😉
Greetings from Berlin 😎
so I've watched all your videos so far and I've noticed something. please don't take this as a bad thing though but since episode 4 we see less of the show and what you are reacting to if that makes sense. like editing makes it feel out of sync slightly and we get less show time and see your reaction but don't know what to and it seems.the show part is very speeded up itself. just a little snippet for future videos. Honestly not being a knob and hope you have a good day, also so sorry about your car. Some dirty people see what others have and instead of going and getting it they just take yours.
I do appreciate what you’re saying. unfortunately, being confined to CZcams’s really strict copyright rules often causes these videos to be jump cut a lot. This particular episode got a copyright strike before it went public so I had to re-edit it and re upload it. Trust me, it’s not how I wanted these videos to be. If I could upload the full reaction straight to CZcams I would. Appreciate your comments though. I’ll try even harder to make it more coherent.
Sucks to hear your car was stolen 😔 hope you get sorted with alternative transport for the time being!
Thought you were on the money about how Charlie doesn't take Harry's bait, he doesn't waste time!
This is always the hardest episode for me to watch but my god did we need a dramatic penultimate moment so we could all be swept up by the happy ending.
Thank you. Luckily, I don’t need the car as transport in London is so easy.
@@JackieRossLavender Public transport is a godsend in situations like this 🚌
@@canny_linguist oh, absolutely! I was trying to sell the car anyway so luckily not having one now isn’t affecting me. Praise be for those regular buses and tubes in London!!
@@JackieRossLavenderGet yourself an e-scooter if they're permitted in London 🛴
@@canny_linguist they’re super strict on things like e scooters but I do need to find something!
Hi, guys.
Everytime I watch Heartstopper season 1 (my son CAN'T stop watching it!! 😂😂😂), I pay close attention to every single Nick's reaction to the situations he is in.
The fight between Nick and Harry happens because it was the last straw. Nick couldn't be lenient at that very moment. But, why has that fight happened?
If we remember, Nick got angry at Harry on episode 3, told Charlie, for the first time, he didn't like his mates because they were totally different from Charlie. But, did he get away from them? No.
When Harry and his nasty followers go look for Nick (after the kiss), Nick says everything is ok. No!!! Nothing was ok. Harry, as usual, was nasty, disgusting. But why has Nick accepted that? Because he is negatively sensible, as Charlie is negatively sensitive. This is the reality!
If we pay attention, on episode 4, Nick wants Charlie to keep their relationship as a secret. And, by doing that, his unquestionable "straightness" wouldn't become questionable. Also, nothing wouldn't change in his ordinary routine, and he'd be able to carry on fearless.
On the other hand, Charlie took all the responsibility for he is out.
That wasn't fair, indeed.
If Nick had broken up with those nasty guys, he wouldn't have gotten into that fight. What made him not do it? Fear and cowardice.
When someone is negatively sensible, they don't realize they intoxicate themselves and others.
I know there were other things I wanted to say but I've forgotten what they were. The only thing I can remember that I wanted to comment on is that I think you're the only person on here who, like me, would like some background context for Harry's behaviour. While I don't want his story to take up space that could be given to telling the stories of all our under-represented groups (because, let's face it, rich white straight cis boys and their stories have dominated the airwaves for years), I can't help but be curious. Most people though tend to just dismiss him outright, but not you.
I really don't like Charlie's mom at all in the graphic or in the novels. I also didn't like the way Charlie treated Nick in this episode and 8. His non communicating when Nick is so kind and loves him so much and he leaves Nick wondering what is going on kind of breaks my heart. I get why he does but I still don't like it.
Oh, and I had no idea Charlie has an eating disorder but it makes sense.
sorry for the spoiler. It’s a huge part of the graphic novels.
As shitty as I can objectively say Ben is, the acting is so bloody phenomenal that I actually feel sorry for Ben in that scene. Or maybe that just tells you more about me, whenever I get attacked I start wondering what the person must be struggling with and want to give them a hug. Yes I have issues and yes I’m in therapy but idk, I think Tao, as a safe person, saying to Charlie that everything is his fault, KNOWING that he has a tendency to blame himself and feel like his existence alone is annoying, is way worse, than what Ben clearly illogically projects and spews out of jealousy and self-hatred. The only reason that what Ben says hits Charlie is because he further gets “confirmation” when Tao and Nick get into fights. Conveniently missing the fact that Harry is involved in both, but there’s a very logical reason for missing that, namely that Charlie takes Harry’s existence as a given one way or another rather than as an individual who’s responsible for his actions and decisions. I hope that makes sense
I also agree about Ben. Whilst he is a shitty human I think there is more to him than meets the eye.
Sorry to hear about your troubles, mate. The writing is so good because Alice has kept the drama limited to one focus--the boys developing a new relationship and how the supporting characters affect that development. On other shows, Charlie would be a drug dealer, have an alcoholic father, and Tori cuts herself because she doesn't fit in. Since Nick's dad is French, he is torn between two cultures and two bickering parents, so Nick takes PEDs to remain that rugby star he is to impress the Oxford University rugby scouts. Imogen hasn't been seen since episode 5. Perhaps she is off looking for her estranged mother hoping to move in with her since her dad got a job at Princeton, because Imogen doesn't want to move. None of that was shown since it had nothing to do with the main characters.
couldn’t agree more. I also feel like the writing is just… real? There isn’t any OTT storylines to push a narrative. It’s just real life.
I think even with a context of Harry’s stories won’t make anything different. Let’s assume he grew up in a family which is lacking of love, care, or decent education on communication or how to express themselves, or even abused by his parents, that doesn’t make his behaviours any acceptable.
A lot of people who were traumatised are still decent to the others. People like Harry must have been encouraged or feel encouraged to do the nasty things. And that’s the disgusting parts.
One thing about the homophobic people is that, no matter which generation or culture background they are from, they are OBSESSED with gay people. This obsession is kind of fascinating in a sense. Why? Why are they obsessed? I really wanna talk to one of them and break it down piece by piece to see what they are thinking. Not trying to debate with them or make them progress, but just want to see what they are thinking.
I completely agree with you. It’s not going to make me have any kind of compassion towards him because his actions are unacceptable I just think in the scope of the story it would be interesting to know a little more about him.
Sorry about your car, that really sucks.
Thank you!
Ok so another point came to mind. Sadly my american gaggle of friends use the f.. word all the time to identify ourselves. Im on the fence of whether we are taking this term back like we have queer ? Or just accepting this .... Any thoughts?
Along this same lines tara even being coached by an lgbtq+ counselor say. ",her hands are so soft.... That's the gayest excuse I've ever heard.". I have to tell you I cringed. I fight this use of the term for bad or poor designation all the time. Can't tell you the fights I've had with business colleagues over the "God, that's so gay." Comment. If you gonna use that phrase it better be about my irrational love for musical theater or drag. ... Cause admittedly on those I am just that stereotypically gay. And I do not take offense.
I think you didn’t remember because it’s an episode where the crap hits the fan with micro aggressions to flat out blatant and harsh homophobic language with a heaping help of communication failure blowback. Also, a lot of it isn’t in the graphic novel after the cinema fight between Nick and Harry and the toxic confrontation in the parking lot between Ben and Charlie where Ben projects his insecurities to MAXIMUM TW*TAGE bullying. Sorry to hear that some C-word stole your vehicle. Hope they catch the a-hole(s) responsible. You are in need of that season finale goodness to lift you up!
* maybe look into investing into an external video recorder to bypass that ridiculous record limit. That used to be some idiotic limitation years ago, but newer cameras have let go of that limit. Oh well, just wanted to say that, I’m case you weren’t aware 😬
thank you! I am looking at an external recorder it’s just £££. It’s on the list for sure but for now I will have to put up with the record limits. I am looking at getting a new camera body as mine is 4 years old now and the one i’m looking at has no recording limits THANK GOD.
To answer your question, Kids are the way they are because puberty has set in, their chemical balance is all over the place. And there is something inside all of us that is distinctly primal. Yes, we’re talking old caveman days. The strong shall survive and the weak will parish. Just look at, and study, the scene of the Reindeer games from “Rudolph…” They were rough housing, exposing, what they seem to be, a weakness. And they were cheered on by the adult, who should be teaching kindness and understanding. Instead, he imprinted the bad qualities to the masses and imprinted guilt and shame to the one who is different. Sound familiar?
This is my least favorite of the episodes because it's the most negative and has the most drama. But its lows allow for such highs on the finale.
It’s probably one of my favourites because of those reasons. It also feels incredibly real which is why the show hits so hard.
I know patreon is all the rage so you can make more money, but I don't understand a lot of reaction videos that do get uploaded to CZcams. They are so badly edited (cut) that it makes them literally unwatchable.
you have to be really, really careful with reaction videos on youtube because they very easily get a copyright strike and then they get removed which after hours of editing is soul destroying. I would happily have uploaded full videos to youtube otherwise but unfortunately it’s not the case.
@@JackieRossLavender Yeah...totally understand. I enjoy your videos...it just sucks that things are the way they are. TBH, I'm surprised that the full length vids are even allowed on Patreon. Either the studios aren't aware or don't care as it isn't as visible? I don't know.
Sorry for the negative comment...your video was like the 5th reaction video I've watched today (probably seen 100+) and its hard to watch because of the cuts ya'll have to do.
Edit: I changed my wording from "edited" in my original post to "cut" as that is what I intended (I couldn't remember the word earlier lol).
@@MemphisTiger basically because Vimeo is a paid for platform and doesn’t have as strict copyright rules. I get what you’re saying it is annoying. and in my first reaction I tried to cut as little as possible but it got pulled instantly. It is what it is unfortunately.