Do you have any stats to back that up? - Destiny Debates Mr. Reagan
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im not racist, i just judge people based on their skin color
@s p y d e r The term itself is derived from the word “race”, dumbass.
I'm not racist, I have a color tv.
I'm not racist. I love racing
I'm not racist but all black people need to get the jab...
@@toddsullivan1949 😳
This guy is the human embodiment of cognitive dissonance.
He sounds ridiculous. Did you hear him when he was talking about looking up the Sweden voucher thing? "Well maybe there was a fatal flaw." Textbook confirmation bias, going in looking not only for a flaw, but a fatal one. He's bending reality to fit his preconceived notions.
This is truest of 2019 hands down
@@mikecurry6847 a fatal flaw? Would that mean the vouchers in Sweden literally killed kids? Yikes
@@KiraDaBeastNY At least this guy knows he isnt smart enough to be a politician tho. Unlike a certain british boy
@@tuckeraar Please tell me sargon isn't officially involved in british politics. monkaS
This debate feels like returning to the first level after you beat the game.
Fuck yeah 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Back to farming boars
Destiny needs that after resfusing to understand basic math
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Mr. Reagan was right on one thing, it is hard to have a conversation with someone who isn't educated on the topics.
Steve Rogers that shit was crazy! Right before not knowing what tenure is but claiming it ruins the entire education system?? Had to rewind it, bonkers
very true, Destinys incessent showing of basic logic and math skills makes it very hard for him to understand how hiring someone thats going to be on average worse is bad for the company
@@wasdwasdedsf on the other hand, basic math skills fail to explain why the name shaniqua is an instant "no-hire" flag
4 years later and Mr. Reagan is saying Biden tried to have Trump assassinated during the Mar-A-Lago search.
What a tool.
Mr Reagan: I’m going to open this debate talking about my deep thoughts on racism. I’ve thought long and hard about this. I have a lot views on what isn’t actually racism and how America needs to re-evaluate our view on this topic.
Destiny: Ok, can you name 1 thing that you WOULD consider racist?
Mr Reagan: I haven’t really thought about the racism part of racism¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@Glyn Great job demonstrating a complete unwillingness to look at an argument objectively. The woman who was raped would have subconscious reactions to random folks that could be racist. If she makes an effort to be objective and avoid saddling an individual with an entire group's issues then there would be no issue. Every single person on this planet has these subconscious reactions (bias) to the "other", it's how you deal with that reaction that matters.
I would encourage you to do a bit more reading concerning charter schools as 1 in 6 are better than the average public school education in the US. The irony of you criticizing Destiny for mixing "emotions and politics" while having no rational justifications for your own beliefs is pretty incredible and demonstrates a general lack of self awareness. If you actually care about having a well-rounded understanding of these discussions, it might help to make at least a half-assed attempt to steelman a person's arguments.
@Glyn ?
21:05 black people who speak well experience less racism than ugly people.
@Glyn if you're raped by someone and you instantly flag up their race as dangerous after that doesn't that imply you were already racist? If a black woman is gang raped by a white man and woman and then became prejudiced and fearful of white people after that would that be reasonable? Very few people rape, attaching such a crime to a race is illogical
Let's not forget, Destiny was asked a simple, straightforward question "how many racists have you ACTUALLY met?" which he avoided with a bullshit "I don't go outside much" line... And no, not someone that "identifies" racist... But someone who actually acts upon, is visible, or is causing actual problems for colored people due to their racism...... I'm 31 and I've met like... 2...? I've been to almost all 50 states. Yes, racism DOES still exist. It exists in .0000001% of America. It exists in both parties. It exists in white, black, yellow, purple & green people...... And there's also that many murderers, rapists, criminals, drug dealers, mob bosses, etc. Society isn't perfect & it NEVER will be. What are you actually fighting for? To abolish all the .00000001% of people? And you don't think MUCH MORE damage is done by attempting to make people believe racism is SO widespread its SO real its SO bad its SO killing people. Let's kill all the remaining KKK (democratic party, btw) & all remaining racists. I'll be right there with you. So would Republicans. So would Mr. Reagan. Folks, don't let mainstream news feed you a false narrative.... It is being exploded..... NO there's no concentration camps, NO Trump isn't "killing babies & tearing apart families" at the border (he's literally following the current LAW.. (like it or not), NO racism isn't this prominent. NO, half of the entire country isn't racist, NO the world will NOT end in 12 years lmfaooooo. Dems have tried this scare tactic & fear mongering TOO many times for you all to be fooled. Y2K? How many times has the world ended? OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE. YOU'RE TOO SMART TO LET ALT-LEFT MEDIA TO TAKE OVER YOUR BRAIN & THOUGHTS!! Don't be a mind slave!
The difference between JonTron and this guy is that JonTron never pretended to be an "intellectual".
Oh and doomsday destiny is 😂 😴!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Socialism is Evil hey, if your kids are there I would highly recommend they put some parental controls on, clearly you're too old to be on the internet
@@Poopbutt2134 Destiny is pretending to be an intellectual like this guy?
The gist of this debate:
- Nobody can be racist at all because racism bad and I'm not racist
- If you choose not to hire a black person because theyre black, ur not racist
ie: racism
or because the expected value of that black guy is that he is going to be less smart. he is by definition going to be less profitable for your company
yeah you should only hire black people because they are black, fucking idiot.
@@maurodelgado2613 He means that if you dont hire a black person because they are black you are racist. If you say "If you choose not to hire a black person because they're black, ur not racist" the other part also has to make sence, circular logic my guy. Don't go full down syndrome on us
Uuuh duuuur I don't know many racist people and the people I've asked don't know many racist people and therefore racism isn't really a problem, it's just that simple and obviously true
@@fredericksinclair No the discussion was that if you didn't hire a black guy DESPITE THEM BEING QUALIFIED, are you racist.
hint: you are
Mr Reagan didn’t know what racism was in this debate
God, this is so painful
@@louiss4672 James is a white name. Black people can have white names, especially considering most African American family names were lost due to the circumstances of our *ahem* immigration. However white people are much less likely to be named Tyrone or Jamal or Jayquan. So if you see that as an employer, odds are the hire is black. Simple fact.
TheDinglelingle3 he knew what it was, he just didn’t want to admit that the study was correct.
@@louiss4672 Everyone who is black, or has a black name is from a ghetto? Cool story bruh. Even then , what makes you think that someone from a ghetto wouldn't be a good employee?
Eric Ramsay “statistics” can’t tell you a damn thing about an individual. How about informing your decisions by what’s in the damn resume that’s sitting in front of you rather than statistics that most likely have nothing at all to do with the person applying for the job and still show that over 99% of black people in the US aren’t violent criminals.
It's impossible for public schools to work because
x = we have a diverse population
F(x) = I don't want to pay for black and poor people
This is an amazing meme format. Perfect to expose dogwhistles.
@Glyn i cant disagree with that.
Hey catSUCKINGCOCK ,ARE YOU JUST A PENDEJO or just trying to be a DOUCHEBAG. What the FUCK are you talking about.? Public schools do work. I can bet you that a lot of successful people in the past and the present went to PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ALSO STOP BEING A PRETENTIOUS PRICK and STOP SHOWING OFF.
@Glyn Not really. Asians have strict familial piety system where parents can drill down 'the importance of higher education' both mentally and physically. If you don't make it into the very top percentage in your classes, the mental abuse you'd have to bear from parents, neighbors, relatives and teachers can be shockingly awful. It's an effective and Spartan incentive. They have a centralized government funded education system and the trickled down geniuses that you hear about are still a minority.
"What would it take for someone to be considered racist?"
"I haven't really thought about it."
Love having hard opinions first, thinking about it later. Much easier.
This pissed me off more than anything
Before I even watch this debate I’ll answer: he does not.
bob thornton - he does know what being racist is, he just doesn't want to admit he does and is. You can't spend all that time making up excuses, making extremely low bar definitions and not know what you offering an excuse for.
You are correct
By his logic we shouldn't call Hitler racist because he was making what he thought to be empirical class based observations that happened to be associated with race.
MF Doom pfp 👍
MisterGorgo hell yeah
Destiny got hired instead of a black person in this debate
He only got the jobe because of Reaffirmative Action. I doubt he's qualified.
and the Asian american that was most qualified didnt even get an interview
Too funny bro 😭😭😂😂
This guy went to the bowling alley of racism and hit 5 strikes in a row, seemingly without being an actual racist.
lol. Exactly.
keep blindly screaming people to be racists and you will be able to keep that ego of yours thinking youre god
@@wasdwasdedsf I know you are but what am I?
@@wasdwasdedsf i mean dude he literally said he held preconceived notions about a person based on the color of their skin( specifically doctors).
That's not even the lefty def. of racism that's just plain prejudice based on race.
@@theronerdithas2944 " mean dude he literally said he held preconceived notions about a person based on the color of their skin( specifically doctors)."
blacks, 85iq. Whites, 100.
Ummm, I'm a black medical student.
Can confirm that I am in the top 10% of my class and didn't get in based on affirmative action.
This guy is so in denial about his own racism.
Glyn I’m not fooling anyone. I get good grades and have been appropriately academically rewarded. Very simple
@@GreeGraa Top 10% in your class at med school? You should have a better understanding of affirmative action. I question your honesty.
Andrew Callender I do understand affirmative action. I’m in favour of it to some extent.
That being said, not every academically successful black person gets there by affirmative action. To assume so would be quite racist of you...
I’ve been a straight A student my whole life and achieved above the entry requirements for my medical school. Is it really so unbelievable to you that a black person can do well in school so long as they have a good education and upbringing?
@@GreeGraa There are millions of highly intelligent black people , I never assume. Just because a black person attains a high level doesn't mean that affirmative action does not allow less capable people into the class simply because they have that particular skin colour. I think you are missing the point.
Andrew Callender Did you miss the part about being in the Top 10% of his class? The top 10% of the class is getting into Med School regardless of Affirmative Action. If he is doing that well in Med school, it is pretty rational to assume he was among the most qualified applicants in the first place.
Honestly I need a bingo card because he just pulled out "I don't see colour", "I have black friends" and "*you're* the real racist" in the span on 10 minutes
@Glyn Alexa, play Taylor Swift's "You need to calm down" 😪
Glyn what are you talking about? He used each of those points in succession. Need me to time stamp it for you?
he is the racist… he Thinks blacks are superior
>A job interviewer can make an assumption about a black applicant being violent.
>You can never make an assumption about somebody being racist unless they admit it.
Nice, bro.
exactly, this dude was obviously racist like 5 minutes into the interview. I can deal with right leaning people. But this dudes views are so blatantly racist, and he's made all these impossible standards for racism, because, without these insane standards, he gets filtered in with the racists. "I also wouldn't want a black doctor, because he probably didn't earn his position" fuck this guy
@@mrbeefy1101 nice copy paste
@@shark3ozero that's what happens when racists try to sound smart, they just talk out of their asses
I really think they just don't understand the ability to not prejudge someone based on certain things. I can prejudge someone based on their name. But I can also stop myself and say "woah this is someone's name were talking about here, we know nothing about this guy". everyone prejudges, but being able to keep yourself from taking action based off preconceived, possibly false notions is what makes you a decent person.
@@DW-tm8pg " "I also wouldn't want a black doctor, because he probably didn't earn his position" fuck this guy "
thats objectively the case that he is expected to be worse… thats affirmitive action. do you know how math works?
@@wasdwasdedsf No...here you go again. Should companies just not hire men because they are overwhelmingly more likely to be rapists? I don't think so. That would actually be distriminatory against men but if we use your logic it works.
The guy is clearly racist from the most standard and even stated premise of what being racist means. Yet you say there's no evidence.
"That's absolutely not racist! I've never even seen a racist./I don't know what it takes to be racist."
Dafuq?
Look in the mirror Mr Reagan!
Right?? 😂
if you are not anti-white you don't use the term racist.
@@FiveLiver so anyone who uses the word racist is anti-white.?
Literally drowning in privileged
Good luck trying to debate someone on racism who doesn't even understand what racism is.
@@daltonmm3675 which they are not
Pigeon chess
Yeah, destiny should learn what racism is.
Racism is a fake problem.
Dalton Mitchel thats an almost digibro argument, you cant make a "good point" without first having to substantiate your claims. EVIDENCE ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE CITED or else your argument falls on its face
"I am not racist cause my doctor is black." - Mole Man
Glyn I watched this entire debate and that’s all I need to know. I doubt you did that much
@@Mightyzep Then you are either being malicious or you're not very bright.
Right?! Literally his entire race argument was him saying how he believes judging a person based on race is bad while proceeding to say it’s ok to think that black doctors aren’t as qualified or that using crime rates is ok to use to judge whether or not to hire a black person😂😂
Mole: Thank you. Now, I wasn't able to get an exact location, but I did learn that Dr. Evil has moved to a new lair outside of Tokyo Japan......By the way, I realize that I have a large mole on my face.
Austin: Where??? (nervously laughs) What? Where's that mole? I... didn't see one.
Mole: I also realize the irony that I am myself a mole.
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Austin: Moley-moley-moley-moley-moley!
This guy might be the brownest person self-identify as a white person I've ever seen
I'm from Portugal. We are pretty socialist compared to the US, but we still have private schools, private hospitals, and so on. When the right wing is in government, they defund public education and make sure public subsidies are given for parents to put their kids in private schools, even if there's a good public school in the same area. What happened was that the private schools were statistically worse quality, and the politicians, once they left the government, took up management positions in these schools. It turned into a way to funnel public tax money into their own pockets. This Mr. Reagan guy lives in a fantasy world, none of the things he says are obvious actually work in reality. Oh and he's a huge racist.
In Germany we also have a lot of private school that suck.
Our Situation is not as bad as in Portugal but still...
@@ghosty0612 It's just what the right does, they make a bunch of unsubstantiated claims about how great everything is when it's privatized, when all they care about is making themselves and their friends richer.
"Shaniqua is a made-up name"~ Not racist person
@@eramz56 made-up =/= common. Eric is a made up name.
It's a ridiculous BLACK name
@@eramz56 Do I? Am I a mind reader?
@@eramz56 so are got admitting that your orthodoxy excludes names of black people?
Eric Ramsay what’s his point? That black people shouldn’t have “black sounding names” to avoid being discriminated by racists like him?
_"If I don't know what racism even is, can I truly be a racist?"_ - a professional coward
You can only push racism as a term if you are anti-white.
@@FiveLiver Hey, whatever helps you to sleep better at night, my dude
Damn dude that cyber wolf is rad as fuck
proffessional cowards are you guys, ignoring the Points and using basurd, baseless insults and lies to degred opponents
"Man you would love Marxism".
Can't tell if Destiny says this to mess with people or if he actually believes it. But it's pretty obvious that if you only ever talk about class inequality when dodging accusations of racism then you don't actually care about class inequality. It's like when anti-SJWs say stuff like "oh you feminists claim to care about women, but why don't you ever call out the misogyny of Islam?" It's clear they don't care about women, they're just using them as a tool to attack Muslims. This guy is doing the same thing. He doesn't care about poor people, he's using them as a tool to attack brown people.
I’m pretty sure he was pointing out the inconsistencies in Reagan’s whole “pure capitalism” mind set. He doesn’t really think he’s going to love Marxism.
Even though there are legitimate marxists which are class-reductionists aka it is only about class and racism is just a distraction from the real issue. It is difficult even through the theory of marx to be entirely racist since even as racist Marx was like most ppl of his time, even he pointed out the capitalist exploitation of other races and countries in his book. Something future marxists have expanded upon since.
So while it is not impossible to be a racist marxist the development o marxist writings and ideology has made it quite difficult.
But you are also right in the scapegoat argument. It is also another version of whataboutism where they try to make the other party defend the views of others to runaway from defending their own.
“Look at America’s Got Talent” amazing source.
LMAO
Susan Boyle tho. What a voice.
Is this really what conservative intellectualism is? I watched the whole debate yesterday, and I'm seriously wondering if he's dumber than Jontron.
hes just another dude in it for the money
Probably about just as smart but speaks a tad more eloquently even if it's garbage. For example that Russian immigrant thing near the end, absolute nonsense.
Well, he didnt call them the "commulists"
kanimo24 If he doesn’t shout cuck, soy boy or libtard at least once every sentence he already qualifies as the cream of the crop.
Sally Vee Facts.
Mr Reagan: *defends racist actions or thought processes*
Destiny: You know that’s racist, right?
Mr Reagan: Woah woah I’M not racist I have many non-white friends-
He didn't defend racists actions. He said that it would be not cool and irrational to make decisions based on skin colour, but he believes that most people judge others on how they look.
@@dariuszp8119 That's literally racism, dumbass.
Lol
@@mrbeefy1101 Aha, cool.
Wait, what?
@@mrbeefy1101 Destiny literally said that people are biased twards certain names. You just regurgitated what he said.
Yea I hate those affirmative action black doctors.....
Is this guy for real??
It's absolutely unfathomable that a man can be this ridiculously stupid and have people tout how intelligent he is. But I guess we're now in the era of Trump.
affirmative action is racist, tell me wrong.
"if I see a black engineer and I know he might have gotten into school because of affirmative action, I'm going to be skeptical of how good he is" Even though he passed the same classes that every other engineer passed to get their degree 👀👀
Paul Ahrenholtz you’re wrong
@@Kakerate2 no. How bout you explain how its racist. This is absurd. Fucking explain dude
I thought this guy was supposed to be a smart conservative. He concedes every point to destiny and continues to argue out of his ass. He could probably go 12 hours doing this. Not a single point he made was validated.
@Glyn yh but its also provides a public system
Yeah I’m kinda ashamed that I used to listen to this guy. Destiny pulled me out of the far right by showing that people like this guy, crowder, Shapiro, etc just say shit. Destiny going through and showing how disingenuous the claims are was so helpful. And all the concessions for racists is literally how I used to think.
@34:30 ‘antiracist brainwashing which I appreciate’
the bad faith is strong with this one...
I'm fucking dead 😂😂😂
The lack of self-awareness this guy displays is actually kind of amazing.
Oh, he's aware, He just tries to jungle with words so he won't seem racist/aware that he is racist.
Amazin.
Right!?!? ..and Mr Reagan is kinda cringe too tbh.
Cliche Guevara cliche Guevara is a brilliant name. His AOC video broken down by Hassan had me in stitches.
avosthyric what an absolute dumb fuck lmao
Oh no, when he said "I'm always skeptical of those studies" I knew where this debate was going. 😂
I don't understand how somebody can be skeptical of facts.
@@inliightsociety1549 It doesn't fulfill the conservative agenda so then it MUST be wrong...
@Chris Bartolini Looks like someone is triggered 😶
@@inliightsociety1549 what facts
I haven’t heard that part of the convo yet, so I’ll drop by later when I’ve reached it, but in general you should never take single studies at face value. Either A: read about what consensus is amongst researchers. Or B: Read a bunch of meta-analyses. Newer is usually better. And even when you do take these precautions, know that the replication crisis in social sciences reaffirmed how wrong they can be as well when the scientific literature itself is impacted by publication bias. There’s a lot of methodological problems with the way particularly psychology and sociology have been conducted.
debate ends at 19:43 when Mr. Reagan admits he hasn't thought this over at all.
where he admits he hasnt created ficticious scenarios in his head where two actors play the roll of guy seeking job and a boss, yet should be able to create such scenarios on the fly in a debate where he is to outline scenarios that just crossess the line onto racism
'Racism' doesn't exist, it is an invention of the cultural Marxists. Listen to Jesse Lee Peterson - he grew up on a plantation during Jim Crow, he knows what he is talking about.
@@FiveLiver True. The racehustlers cannot pull any tricks on him. He should moderate this debate.
He certainly knows racism doesn't happen often, if ever. But he also hasn't thought at all about what makes someone racist. Sounds solid to me.
I wish it ended there because the next hour and half or so left me with a large red hand print on my face.
Achievement Unlocked- Long road around saying the N word
Lol, I've never met a racist, so my conclusion is that racism doesn't exist. 26:27 🤦♀️
@Glyn Thank you for calling me retard. That's so sweet. ❤️❤️
Every arguement from this guy went the same way. "Look. I love X group, but here's why they're bad: insert racist talking point."
What a suprise that he thinks there are basically no racists...
you forgot the part: „Let‘s look at this totally unrelated example, to undermine my point of view
@@Mickk4224
Eg. You should mistrust black doctors due to affirmative actions.
@Stephen Weir His train of thought was that due to affirmative action the meritocratic guarantee of a Doctor's degree could be tainted, there is a supposed logic there, just faulty logic.
Now, one can argue whether or not that conclusion is of racist nature or merely an unreasonable jump in logic; or perhaps a little bit of both.
According to the way he described racism he wouldn't classify that as extreme enough to be racism, yet he'd claim the cause to be the human condition. A bit like Hanlon's razor perhaps.
Hence he wouldn't see racists where some others might do.
Racism as a term has become a bit diluted in recent years and many people hold differing definitions on what it actually entails, which unfortunately does not help with the discourse.
@Stephen Weir I posted my comment as to provide insight as to why so called right-wingers seem to lack self-reflection.
I'm not going to have a conversation on the semantics and abstractions of the word racism in a comment section.
Hence, I'll leave it with this:
They might react so strongly against being called racist, because whatever they did to warrant that accusation doesn't register as racism in their frame of mind.
If you take different serveries of racist behaviour and layed them out in order, the barrier for what constitutes racism for right-wingers would be much higher, possible unseasonably so.
If for example you say that racism only occurs when actual proof able harm is done, you might be surprised that saying the n-word out loud to no-one would be considered racist. Assuming you'd see that as no harm being done.
I think it helps when you try to think what the train of logic is for someone to act in a certain way.
@@Mickk4224 that you shouldn't trust black doctors
Wow! Mr Reagan is like an American Sargon.
Yes, he is great. National treasure. I think he might end up in politics.
Holy shit... yep
@rafide
Well said. He’s dumb as fuck
FUCK! You're right. I didn't notice till you mentioned it, but the way he acts is exactly like that.
@@dnciskkk9037 is this satire?
Sort of simplistic to say "marxists reduce everything to class" when marxists like Angela Davis have written some of the most prescient work on race and racism.
You are right, the class struggle is old hat - race has become the new battleground for Marxists. Only 'minorities' can be oppressed in their ideology - white working class people are the oppressors and 'racists' now. The left is anti-white. All the terms racist, fascist, Nazi, far-right, just mean white working class.
More than sort of. I hope that was just a rhetorical technic because destiny can't be that stupid.
@@FiveLiver I'm gonna guess you don't actually know anything about Marxism
@@Aaron-fy4wo he is lib
I think he was using it as a subtle way of getting under this guys skin as he is a clear far righter.
Gotta love it when they hang themselves before the 15 minute mark, despite Destiny's best efforts to keep e'm away from the rope.
11:23 "I think that's a pretty fair assessment"
Destiny breathes, nods disapprovingly while typing "gottem" and reaches for the redbull.
Here we go boys.
as he continues with no arguments and kindergarten logic and maths
If Steven is Destiny does that make Nathan Destiny's Child?
This deserves the most likes
LOL
Lmaooo good one
I saw this joke on reddit ages ago lol
@@Larvemannenz001 good for u
"Your'e a 100% right" proceeds to say the exact opposite of what he agreed with.
That's how to trick your dullard sheep followers in to thinking you're winning.
I loved the part where he was making up things about crimes we cant track and have no data on so he could say he "won" on a topic
Holy shit this is JonTron level. Bangs on about tenure. Doesn't know what it is.
Jimmy Boom lol when is that in the video? I’m 55 minutes in but I can’t bare to watch this whole thing
@@GrahamSiggins Around 01:32 or something.
That was actually unreal for two reasons to me, for one just the fact he went on about it but didn't know what it was and hearing the actual definition. I'm Irish and we don't have tenure here because you get those protections after a year in literally every job here.
Jimmy Boom lmaaooooo thanks yeah I found it at 1:35:00
He tried to weasel out of that so quick hahaha wtf
“Isnt the whole point of tenure that you can’t get fired”
2 seconds later
“Well of course the whole point of tenure is it makes it much more difficult to be fired”
Wut
The major problem with this comment is that it assumes 'most' republican talking heads aren't at JonTron level. This degree of stupidity isn't 'abnormal' for them.
he says he's white but... damn, that just shows how whiteness is different from country to country. mr reagan certainly would be clocked as "ethnic" where i'm from (siberia).
also, this is like jontron 2.0, went to shit really quickly
Schmendrikson
Lmao
where i am from u would not count as white if u dont have blonde hair and blue eyes ^^
@@maxthommesen9315 Northern Europe I'm guessing?
@@fabiobalassia i am exactly the center ^^ i am from the country where hilter is from.
0:55 “I would like to defend Lauren Southern”
Annnnddddd I’m done.
oh man that was the first hint and I still went 20 minutes in. :O
"I agree that it's irrational." So then why are you defending it? And why should anyone put up with it?
I agree absolutely and completely 100% except I actually don't agree whatsoever
I agree with your sentiment but it could be argued that love is irrational. I'll put up with it and defend it.
@@MinedMaker *someone does something that is the literal definition of racism*
"Well that's just nature it happens so it's not racism. What do you mean I raped her? I'm just spreading my genetics that's nature."
@@dennisv.9434
I won't. Fuck love.
guest went full racist within 7 minutes. AMAZING
yes indeedio, cant have a conversation with you sjws without you putting your hands on your ears and screaming racists
@@wasdwasdedsf he was literally justifying statistical racism in the first 15 minutes. "An employer might see a black name and think he's lower class" is literal racism and the dude was trying to justify it.
@@wasdwasdedsf don't be racist and it wouldn't be a problem. 🤷🏿♀️ It's pretty simple.
@@Panthro-lo2lh well thats nature of the World we live in. Destiny is like "isnt this just very fucking sad and unfortunate". yes thats the Nail on its hit, it is extremely unfortunate. if you do less crime and are less hostile, you wont have higher standards put on you.
just as i expect to be judged worse than an asian with all other things being equal.
@@awoofer "he was literally justifying statistical racism in the first 15 minutes."
exactly. cause thats how business work, you use statistics to determine better options for your business to profit. look up the definition of Company in your Dictionary!
0:55 "I want to, a little bit... defend lauren southern"
OH YESSSS 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Right wingers tell themselves "these brown people cant assimilate, these people arent like us". The biggest issue in the right.
Assimilating to America is the easiest thing.
It's always nice to see a quote in the comments as it's being said... Oh god.
@@juanjones6463 bro you are so right, the only american culture is to worship money, i kid, american culture is the mixing of multiple cultures.
@@rodolfodoce you kid, but you're right in many ways. A lot of right wingers dont know any Latinos. They only know what fox news or glen beck tells them.
“When I say me, its an illustration of how I think most people think in America” well that answers the question of the title
Also known as the 'False consensus effect'. Reagan the Retard.
>I've never met a racist before in my lfe
>We're all racist, biologically.
Mr. Reagan's position on racism is unironically and almost LITERALLY what Joyner Lucas's case and point was in the song "I'm not Racist", a year ago. The idea that you might have all these hidden preconceived racial biases/prejudices that might come out in other cryptic ways, like in interviews, jobs, etc is racism by definition... but like the song, "But I'm not racist though". There's a deeper underlying racism that's masked by every day people, because society this day in age lives in a social media generation where everyone's more aware and keen about being openly racist, Destiny is able to call it out for what it is by definition but Mr. Reagan gives these people a free pass/excuse for any reason to justify its okay they hold these prejudices... because "region, culture, insert excuse".
I'm gonna have to give that song another listen, since when I heard it I was distracted by the squealing of paranoid skeptics giving their shit take.
Wow, it's crazy how people can sound so reasonable and well composed, but be all over the place with their arguments. This guy consistently argued against his own positions and had no idea.
This comment needs to be at the top
Some people look and seem smart until they start speaking
I want to judge this guy using Hanlon's razor, as in it sounds like he's incompetent/misinformed about a lot of these macro concepts.
Throughout the "debate" he agrees with Destiny quite often, and sounds rather socialist or left leaning at some points even.
I don't think he has malice in his heart when he brings up his points against immigration for example.
If anything, maybe he has too much compassion for people that hold factually incorrect viewpoints.
Sometimes he perhaps could have had a valid point but due to his lack of understanding goes off on unfounded conclusions.
so yh, I dunno, if anything I won't hate this guy, he sounds like he is somewhat reasonable and if better informed might see the faults in some of his points.
@@0HollowTubes0 Yeah I agree. He was easily confused my many things and didn't really have the facts straight but he didn't come across as malicious like many right-wingers do so his questionable moral positions were likely due to ignorance.
Plus he was open to discussion and looking at other view points rather than clashing ideologies.
Granted, I hadn't heard of the guy before, nor have I looked at any of his work outside this debate so I'm talking about my perception of him from this video only.
@@axeforeal I'm in the same boat, never heard of this guy before and probably won't go seek him out either.
I just find that people assume malice too easily when they come in contact with differing viewpoints.
Given we've of course only seen this one debate of the man.
I think I lost brain cells listening to Mr. Reagan
Destiny gonna owe me a whole new brain by the end of this.
Hows destiny rhetoric different? He literally generalized blacks being poorer than whites in the voter ID laws debate and wants to help them through the government. What about the poor whites or any other color than blacks?
@@kezicss The fact that you can't tell the difference makes me think you must have lost some brain cells too
@@petermaclauren2788 no argument to be seen.
@@kezicss Of course it also affects other people than poor african americans. That does not remove the fact that, regarding voter ID laws, african americans are the particular group of people affected far more than anything else. The outcome ofc favors the republican party and their candidates in the affected areas. Racism for the sake of political power. Solving the issue would obviously not only make it easier for those poor african americans but also other affected groups.
The difference in generalization is that one serves the purpose and consequence of demonizing and the other serves the purpose and consequence of finding solutions.
Not to mention there is a clear difference in the nature of explanations. For example, one dude in the comment section said it is ok for companies to automatically not hire black people because they just more stupid. This despite the factor of an individual's qualifications, making it obviously racist and not economically sound. The race realist reasoning asside, a person would then be judged for their color and not the content of their character. Ultimately serving a racist and (if it appeals to you more) economically stupid reasoning. Pointing out for example how a majority of predominantly african american schools are horrible and often result on lesser education and more health issues because of mold. Now that is framed to appeal to action to a generalized issue that can be fixed by governnent support. Ultimately making it easier for all students that go to that school, not only african americans.
Many issues are not exclusive to african americans, like deteriorating health and cancer in Lousiana because of petrochemicals. But because it affects predominantly african americans ofc they are gonna feel singled out and targeted. In fact, in Lousiana despite the movement against the petrochemical industry primarily affecting african americans. A fact that local groups use to argue against the industry while also having white people join because they are affected too.
22:50 the moment destiny realizes he’s talking to a crazy person 😂
How is he a crazy person? he has some good points...
Not a single good point was raised.
@@oscarnilsson2872 Please, PLEASE provide one good point he made! Surprise us all.
@@jakeshuker8614 well, with the whole racism thing, now i dont remember what whas said exactly and i wont watch it again but when he explained that Destiny's example wasnt racism.
Glyn I mean you can argue whether or not the racism is justified but that example quite literally fits the definition of racism
Did he just say that immigrants to Sweden intentionally commit fraud! Ignoring of course the fact the way you get benefits requires you to not have a job so if you have a job then how does he think they collect it. This guy doesn't even bother to think about what he's saying.
this guy literally sells gold coins. ALL THINGS EXPLAINED
“Your a gamer so I’m gonna think your a LOSER” Jesus this dude is from the fucking 90s
@@kindiko7890 I thought that was just an extreme example to explain his point but seeing how he looks at racism, I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually what he was thinking.
Kindiko There are people who think like this though
whats a gold coin
@@wasdwasdedsf haha. a form of merchandise. actually i think theyre silver dollars.
Me Reagan made a video where he thinks AOC was a conspiracy created by Hasans uncle
[Bracks ] Did Hasan’s uncle Cenk’s nephew’s friend talk about it in this debate?
What part of it that video was false?
Destiny destroyed this right-wing fool that does not understand what racism is and is filled with right-wing talking points.
What can we expect? Right wingers think "reverse racism" is a major issue in America.
@@juanjones6463 We do and we are winning.
@@drumyogi9281 keep thinking that brother.
@@drumyogi9281 As a black guy, I'm sorry for how we have subjugated and oppressed your people. It must be really hard for you in this country.
What is racism? Do you believe racism is institutional? Should racism be illegal? I don’t think the market would support a company built on racist ideology.
This whole debate Mr Regan in full damage control mode, 😂
@Glyn except that's exactly how racism works 0/10 troll try harder
where at? Destiny is the one with no arguments
@@Spencerwalker21 it isnt, lie harder
wasdwasdedsf
Neither do you.
Destiny is just asking questions, Regan is making statements, and when asked to clarify his positions, walking back those positions to a place where a more moderate argument can be made, not the same argument. Classic “motte and bailey.”
Secondly, he said Shaniqua is a made up name, Destiny said names aren’t a material feature of the world, and de facto agreeing, saying Randy is equivalently “unreal”. These are his statements.
@@wasdwasdedsf I'm sorry you're offended but that's not a argument now cry more your tears sustain me.
'It's reasonable to be suspicious of black doctors because of affirmative action'
'I don't even know if medical schools are affected by affirmative action'
Destiny got married in this debate
How?
@@petermaclauren2788 did you not watch the end?
And it pulled him out of poverty. Such is the way to get out of poverty, just get married.
@@elohellol8481 Oh is that his wife in the background?
@@petermaclauren2788 Timestamp: 2:34:48
Is he... accidentally defending racism or does he know exactly what he's saying?
18 mins in he already says the I have black friends meme lmao.
@@asnalem4391 I wouldn't have a wife if I was a sexist... is essentially what he said
He knows what he's saying but doesn't like being labelled a racist.
100% bad faith actor
Well in all fairness, he has never met a racist in his life!
This guy thinks the government is less powerful than a private school this guy unironically said that. 🤦♂️
Wtf this guy literally knows nothing, immigration, zoning, racism, etc etc. the only thing he ever says is well I know people who say what I believe.
We say no to pay to win this is what you get when you listen to Fox and “skeptic” CZcamsrs and don’t do the legwork of research yourself.
The guy who claims it's not racist to say that you wouldn't see a black doctor has never met a racist.
The worst part about this is the conservatives in his comments section who unironically think MrReagan destroyed Destiny in the debate when MrReagan got completely embarassed
Mr. Reagan fans and their ilk never substantiate how destiny is wrong and spout off the same destiny insults/memes. They argue purely on feels.
I don't think Mr Reagan understands what "hate the sin, love the sinner" means.
Tbf, he doesn't understand much 😂
The way he said "hip hop"...it's like go back to the 1920s where you belong buddy! That's just a joke, he is welcome like everyone else.
I never expected to cringe as hard at the word “hip hop” as I did when he said that
"IM SORRY YOU DONT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS TOPIC ITS HARD TO HAVE AN INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING!" "wait, tenure doesn't mean what you think it means" "OH WELL I HAVENT SEEN WHAT A TENURE FIRING ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE BUT UHHH" Man, reagan harder to nail down than fuentes.
22:51 He literally used the "I have a black friend" argument.
*Less than a minute into the video*
Mr Reagan: Republicans can be intelligent people.
Me: Ah shit, here we go again.
Republicans CAN be intelligent people. Unfortunately the intelligent Republicans tend to be very well off people who are far more concerned with their own selfish interests rather than the health of overall society.
@@rigatoni144 Oh most definitely. I was just memeing making a reference to another Destiny Debates bit where Destiny spent forty something minutes with this guy who made the claim that Republicans are generally very intelligent but Destiny just brings on "the wrong people". Destiny let him come on, and the poor sap proceeded to reinforce Destiny's claim by making claims about things he had no actual knowledge or data about like the Trump tax cuts, and immigration numbers, triggering Destiny pretty hard.
Mr Reagan had the African continent under his left eye in this debate.
LMAOOOOOOO
12:44 So if I said: "This black person is a criminal." That would be racist.
But
If I said: "I suspect this black person is probably a criminal." That's fine.
*Logic 100*
Boboddy B big brain 100
J P To racists.
9000
Reagan: "This thing that's TOTES not racism is good"
Destiny: "What you just described is racism"
Reagan: "I have black friends"
Everyone else: "jfc"
its a problem when you label something as racist and its not true, so your buddy is the one who got lost in that conversation you outlined
your patience is legendary, Destiny. Thank you!
Destiny got culturally homogenized in this debate
I like how this guy refers to himself as white when any European would recognize him as either Spanish or Mediterranean
Mr Reagan sounds like a morning zoo radio host from 1982.
Mr Imus
@@Spanishdog17 Don Imus meets No Bullshit with a big shot of early Rush Limbaugh for good measure.
It's Wacky Tie Wednesday, dobt forget to wear those crazy ties and say some racist shit because we both know we arent the REAL racists!!!
Zoo radio???
Jesus, this guy sounds like Reed Rothschild from Boogie Night explaining social issues.
>wear American clothes in Japan
Does he believe Japanese people still get by 24/7 in kimono?
"No, I don't think that's necessarily racism... I just think it's [describes racism]" - Mr. Reagan
I'm screaming in my car listening to this guy 💀
It's absolutely infuriating. And even more so seeing the comments about this debate on his channel.
I was socialized by the sentiment of "judging people by the content of their character and not by the color of their skin", I´m 100% behind that ...
Oh, I would never go to a black doctor, totally not. I´m afraid they might kill me.
Ikr, omg how can he NOT see he's racist?
Destiny let this guy get away with a lot more than I would have liked.
I feel this very frustration watching a lot of his debates.
He kinda has a method of letting them hang themselves. Not that that's effective just seems to be destiny's strategy
Hey, Destiny, new to the channel I appreciate your ability to use intelligence and well thought out positions to crack racism and ignorance. Stay up!
@Glyn low effort my boy.
Glyn There honestly no way you’re this far up your own ass.
Glyn You’re right, and the people attacking you are the true brain dead idiots.
@@robertsmalls2293 Lol joker profile pic 😬
Savscer What a low I.Q comment. 👆🏻
Really annoying that destiny doesn’t just call him out directly.
“The definition of racism is very tricky” is it really though? ...
I mean, the left literally tried to change the definition so that it's systemic racism
Foxxy systemic racism is still defined by the original definition it’s just cast against the systematic opportunities offered/not offered based entirely on the original concept.
@@Foxxyownz Systemic racism is it's own term the same way washing machine is to machine
@@nightsaus Keep asking 'them' the hard questions...even when they're not that hard. :)
It is when racism only exists at the point the person calls themselves a racist
I haven't even watched yet and I can already tell Destiny got DESTROYED in this debate.
That guy that likes you Probably. I’m 10 min in and I’m pretty sure Reagan admits he’s racist. 😂😂😂
@@austincali510 u watched the same debate? Destiny turned black and was shoot by cops in this debate
Boba 😂😂😂 Damn
Colin Flaherty: So twerking and destroying police cars in D.C. during a gay pride parade is now a black thing?
czcams.com/video/TGne1c9VDT4/video.html
Mr. Reagan served two presidential terms in this debate.
The guy apologizes for not being informed about multiple topics and then slams Destiny for not being familiar with tenure.
Smh
Right wing libertarianism has rotted this guy's brains.
@Glyn She is though, just because you try and guilt trip people with a sad example doesn't change the meaning of words, if she thought after that that all men are rapists and feared all men that would still be sexist. Such a stupid feels argument.
"racism is making a single person a representative of a group of people who look similar."
That's how I would define racism
that's prejudice.
That's not Racism.
Wtf is wrong with this dude?? “I’m not gonna hire Shaniqua because her name is low class.” Wtf should their name matter?? I thought getting a job was based on qualifications.
@J P And the solution was to not hire that person instead of giving them a nickname?
Reagan's fake laugh makes me physically cringe every single time; made this so difficult to watch
Aspectioner it’s very very creepy
Love how this guy make so many justifications for racism then says he's never met a racist.
Thing is, racism to me a gradient or spectrum. Most likely he's met tons of racists but since he doesn't consider himself one, he has to meet someone more racist than him.
Thank you!
you're right
No
"they didnt discriminate against black sounding names because they thought they were black, they discriminated against them because they thought black sounding names were lower class"
what is this
He is right.
This guy's *entire* world view is based off of "I talked to some people so X is true" and "I feel like Y is true". He didn't provide a single source in this entire 3 hour conversation. Any time Destiny provided data to back up his claims, he responded with "well I've seen data that contradicts that....(I'm not going to provide that data or go into anymore detail on it but it exists and you're wrong, actually)".
The personification of Feels over Reals.
If someone asks if you're a normie and you don't know what that means.... you're a normie.
Destiny debated a president in this debate
How can he say he's met zero racists when he admitted to not knowing how to determine if someone is racist. I'm getting huge Michael Knowles energy from this guy
I hope affirmative action supports med school applicants. I'd hate for a great doctor not become one because of legacy enrollment
Glyn what’s your opinion on legacy enrollment. Is that racist too?