Lol back in the day i used my knees to steer while changing gears, changing lanes while eating a burger on the highway my mk6 Giac stage two. I am not condoning it, I was young and stupid lol
The GTI is the only one that comes with a manual, which matters to me. Front wheeled cars make a lot of sense too... simpler in the long run. I am tempted by the GTI Clubsport for that reason but it doesn’t come in manual form. I guess that the GTI is a bit misunderstood. It is tuned for roads not track. One problem with the R is that any extras, even paint, takes you over £40K list, which is taxed higher over 5 years.
According to the dyno, VW is understating this car’s horsepower. If VW included the options as standard and improved the cabin (beyond leather seats), the price of the car would be comparable to the premium Audi S3. The r is quickly being recognized as a serious performance car rather than just a poor man’s BMW.
With dieselgate still looming in the background, its better to underestimate than to overestimate. After all, nobody's going to complain that you gave them too much hp.
I test drove one of these loved it but the interior and as mentioned the seats are just ordinary. Once I spec a few optional extras, performance pack, big wheels leather, pan roof, it came in at 48k I'd also want the better exhaust but when the numbers got up there I'd already switched of to the Golf. I guess it comes down to what you want, myself I prefer a better interior over mega performance so for me the Golf wasn't a starter
I still cant believe how profoundly expensive these are in the UK, in Canada they are listing at 47k CAD fully loaded which translates to ~27k gbp so the price of an R line (Taxes in its 57k so 32.5 k GBP)
@@rlsedition I'm simply stating, if you want all the tech and goodies, there isn't the gap in price is less insurmountable and a fairly decent deal with all the boxes ticked.
316hp cough cough. Let's take it most will put this car on finance also most will want a few optional extras if not all. This car is monstrously expensive, I find myself wondering with those types of numbers why wouldn't you go for the entry level A45s with its far nicer interior rather than a fully loaded Golf r
Good review 👍🏼 I’d be interested in your views on GTI Clubsport, very close in performance to R on all bar standing start acceleration. I’ve not yet driven either but plan to shortly as I’m looking to replace my Mk7.5 R with one or the other. GTI Clubsport is cheaper than R and even with a few options will sit below the £40k luxury rate for VED. R probably needs more options on it, pushing the price gap a bit wider. GTI is more economical- a consideration if the car is going to be used as a daily driver. GTI is lighter than R and may feel more characterful and exciting. R has AWD of course so is very surefooted and will be faster in poor conditions. I’ll only know which is the best option when I’ve driven both!
@@andrewmontague2636Yes I've seen that already, and the Volkswizard one. I think the GTI is the one for me, on 19s and definitely not in that dull grey
@@justinevans1894 I can’t get a drive in an R yet but I’ve got a demo in a Clubsport booked for next week. I’m definitely favouring Clubsport though, R seems to be attracting all the chavs! 😂 Yes the car certainly needs 19” wheels and although I loved Nardo Grey and Pure Grey, the Moonstone Grey just doesn’t look right at all- cheap. Volkswizard is a good guy, tells it how it is from an enthusiast’s point of view.
GTI are good fun. A r is a nutcase and will all ways put a smile on your face with in 30 seconds off getting in one. Had mk 7 with ps4s on around 410 bhp and 410lbs. What a car then 19 came a lot sold it love the new 8 can I have the 7s interior best off both worlds. 8 needs r performance pack and exhaust to be the next car to buy love the blue may get a black one. I will hate cleaning it all the time. Love Wing back seats off mk 5 what a car that would be 😁
In the 7, when cornering hard, the car would initially push/understeer momentarily before power was transferred to the rear. Did you notice that happening in the 8 or is the AWD system improved?
I really hope they fixed that. You seem to have my experience exactly. Also my 7 would hit hard on tiny imperfections on the road. Maybe because mine was the very first ordered 2015 I heard the 7.5 was very better
Many seem to observe that the R feels rear biased due to the new AWD system with the rear wheel torque vectoring (previous gens used to have an open diff all around which may be the cause for the understeer)
It's fast, it can do drifts, it's practical.... .... it's boring. This has the same problem as the RS3, A45, Civic TypeR, i30N, etc etc etc ..... Any fool can drive it quickly, because it sorts every issue of traction out for you. Nobody needs any skill to drive it quickly, it's too grippy, too many electronics helping you out, and the drift 'mode' is fake. There is no character, nothing to tame, and it's sterile. These cars are why I drive an M140i.
Nice to see another colour the Lapiz blue is nice just overdone I think... disappointing they only have 3 colours for the mk8. I'm really unsure about this car... performance and drive seem exceptional, interior and infotainment looks like a nightmare. The seats look good and have received a lot of positive feedback, the infotainment system, touch sensor heating and cooling seems stupid and dangerous and hard to operate while driving. They're trying to make it too much like a phone when it's a car, and you don't use your phone fully while driving. The steering wheel shape is not very racey...and people are pressing these haptic buttons and heating steering wheel accidentally as they sit right at the 10/2 hand position... I'm disappointed they just don't seem to make the car look aggressive ever. No gas struts is a joke under the hood. My golf worth half as much has them... stupid money saver or whatever point of that was. They've cut on costs too much for a fairly expensive car. Hard plastic in the rear seats etc... do the positives outweigh the negatives that's the ultimate question! Gotta wait until 2022 at some point (who knows when) in Australia just to see the car!
@@cma7427 It might be one of those things to like if you’re an iPhone user when they took away the home button It was so annoying to use and then you just get used to it. I hope they give us drift/special mode in Australia but I feel they’re not going to. 🤷🏼♂️ still think I’m going to buy this car.
Video artifacts at czcams.com/video/3Zk8zO3wsXU/video.html and that is what I was talking about, right on under the bonnet at that black area . Looks like CZcams is very aggressive on black to light-gray colors. But don't let this ruin the video. Great review but the car looks like a wild boar.
Would not go4 a golf so bloody boring looking!!!!! has always been a square box on wheels, its about time VW got their finger out of their arses and designed a completely new model!!!!
The slo-mo start of the line was glorious!
Leather seats should be a definite consideration....as the standard upholstery looks shite
Dowdy would be my description.
I think the other way🤷♂️
The thought of taking a hand off the wheel to change gear with 300hp+ is downright scary. Glad you like it
Lane keep assist.
Lol back in the day i used my knees to steer while changing gears, changing lanes while eating a burger on the highway my mk6 Giac stage two. I am not condoning it,
I was young and stupid lol
The GTI is the only one that comes with a manual, which matters to me. Front wheeled cars make a lot of sense too... simpler in the long run. I am tempted by the GTI Clubsport for that reason but it doesn’t come in manual form. I guess that the GTI is a bit misunderstood. It is tuned for roads not track. One problem with the R is that any extras, even paint, takes you over £40K list, which is taxed higher over 5 years.
Import a MK8 Golf R from the US for the manual...which is odd that we’ll be the only market where that’s available.
Simplicity is always preferred over complexity. But front drive has its limitations.
Finally a white Golf R
According to the dyno, VW is understating this car’s horsepower. If VW included the options as standard and improved the cabin (beyond leather seats), the price of the car would be comparable to the premium Audi S3. The r is quickly being recognized as a serious performance car rather than just a poor man’s BMW.
With dieselgate still looming in the background, its better to underestimate than to overestimate. After all, nobody's going to complain that you gave them too much hp.
I test drove one of these loved it but the interior and as mentioned the seats are just ordinary. Once I spec a few optional extras, performance pack, big wheels leather, pan roof, it came in at 48k I'd also want the better exhaust but when the numbers got up there I'd already switched of to the Golf.
I guess it comes down to what you want, myself I prefer a better interior over mega performance so for me the Golf wasn't a starter
I still cant believe how profoundly expensive these are in the UK, in Canada they are listing at 47k CAD fully loaded which translates to ~27k gbp so the price of an R line (Taxes in its 57k so 32.5 k GBP)
Just for clarity, that torque vectoring is 100% of the 50/50 power available to the rear wheels.
If you are going to do a video on a 0-62mph.buy the right measuring equipment for god sake!,
I suppose you could try the GTI clubsport...but I still prefer the R. Nice review.
Bro, why don't you use the lap setting in the Golf R to show you how fast you go from 0-60mph instead of this app...!?
This is 100% something I should have done on the shoot. The app was useless.
In the US VW has separated the GTI form the R model with a roughly $15k price difference. THAT'S why you'd consider a GTI over an R model.
once you add in all the options to make the trim level similar you're around 4-5k difference
@@curtismaynard3413 If we had access to the data, I think we'd find that the majority of GTIs are not the the top spec Autobahn model.
@@rlsedition I'm simply stating, if you want all the tech and goodies, there isn't the gap in price is less insurmountable and a fairly decent deal with all the boxes ticked.
For once I wish I lived in the other side of the pond :/ won’t see these for another few months
316hp cough cough.
Let's take it most will put this car on finance also most will want a few optional extras if not all.
This car is monstrously expensive, I find myself wondering with those types of numbers why wouldn't you go for the entry level A45s with its far nicer interior rather than a fully loaded Golf r
Good review 👍🏼
I’d be interested in your views on GTI Clubsport, very close in performance to R on all bar standing start acceleration. I’ve not yet driven either but plan to shortly as I’m looking to replace my Mk7.5 R with one or the other.
GTI Clubsport is cheaper than R and even with a few options will sit below the £40k luxury rate for VED. R probably needs more options on it, pushing the price gap a bit wider. GTI is more economical- a consideration if the car is going to be used as a daily driver. GTI is lighter than R and may feel more characterful and exciting.
R has AWD of course so is very surefooted and will be faster in poor conditions.
I’ll only know which is the best option when I’ve driven both!
In the same boat, I'm favouring GTI Clubsport, as much power as my current 7R and lighter, more nimble and I think better looking.
@@justinevans1894 Exactly. Have a look at this, if you’ve not seen it, it’ll help confirm your opinion czcams.com/video/mBAfugebEjw/video.html
@@andrewmontague2636Yes I've seen that already, and the Volkswizard one. I think the GTI is the one for me, on 19s and definitely not in that dull grey
@@justinevans1894 I can’t get a drive in an R yet but I’ve got a demo in a Clubsport booked for next week. I’m definitely favouring Clubsport though, R seems to be attracting all the chavs! 😂
Yes the car certainly needs 19” wheels and although I loved Nardo Grey and Pure Grey, the Moonstone Grey just doesn’t look right at all- cheap. Volkswizard is a good guy, tells it how it is from an enthusiast’s point of view.
@@andrewmontague2636 thought about a new S3? Saw one in black today, looked tasty!
They look like the 2020 corolla hatchback
GTI are good fun. A r is a nutcase and will all ways put a smile on your face with in 30 seconds off getting in one. Had mk 7 with ps4s on around 410 bhp and 410lbs. What a car then 19 came a lot sold it love the new 8 can I have the 7s interior best off both worlds. 8 needs r performance pack and exhaust to be the next car to buy love the blue may get a black one. I will hate cleaning it all the time. Love Wing back seats off mk 5 what a car that would be 😁
In the 7, when cornering hard, the car would initially push/understeer momentarily before power was transferred to the rear. Did you notice that happening in the 8 or is the AWD system improved?
I really hope they fixed that. You seem to have my experience exactly. Also my 7 would hit hard on tiny imperfections on the road. Maybe because mine was the very first ordered 2015
I heard the 7.5 was very better
Many seem to observe that the R feels rear biased due to the new AWD system with the rear wheel torque vectoring (previous gens used to have an open diff all around which may be the cause for the understeer)
It's fast, it can do drifts, it's practical....
.... it's boring.
This has the same problem as the RS3, A45, Civic TypeR, i30N, etc etc etc .....
Any fool can drive it quickly, because it sorts every issue of traction out for you. Nobody needs any skill to drive it quickly, it's too grippy, too many electronics helping you out, and the drift 'mode' is fake.
There is no character, nothing to tame, and it's sterile.
These cars are why I drive an M140i.
I knew someone would buy one.
It was you,
czcams.com/video/mFXvFwiq8z8/video.html
Do you also prefer crank windows? Car evolve just like everything else. You're out of touch bub.
That box is not ticked put an x in the box ...most rear real drive or 4wd can slide on loose surface ..another you tuber that vw has on their payroll
Nice to see another colour the Lapiz blue is nice just overdone I think... disappointing they only have 3 colours for the mk8. I'm really unsure about this car... performance and drive seem exceptional, interior and infotainment looks like a nightmare. The seats look good and have received a lot of positive feedback, the infotainment system, touch sensor heating and cooling seems stupid and dangerous and hard to operate while driving. They're trying to make it too much like a phone when it's a car, and you don't use your phone fully while driving. The steering wheel shape is not very racey...and people are pressing these haptic buttons and heating steering wheel accidentally as they sit right at the 10/2 hand position... I'm disappointed they just don't seem to make the car look aggressive ever. No gas struts is a joke under the hood. My golf worth half as much has them... stupid money saver or whatever point of that was. They've cut on costs too much for a fairly expensive car. Hard plastic in the rear seats etc... do the positives outweigh the negatives that's the ultimate question! Gotta wait until 2022 at some point (who knows when) in Australia just to see the car!
same, i want performance but not the interior and infotainment, hoping they do an 8.5 in a few years that fixes the interior quality and infortainment
@@cma7427 It might be one of those things to like if you’re an iPhone user when they took away the home button It was so annoying to use and then you just get used to it. I hope they give us drift/special mode in Australia but I feel they’re not going to. 🤷🏼♂️ still think I’m going to buy this car.
Its simple: wait for the Facelift and look if they sorted out the current problems
Video artifacts at czcams.com/video/3Zk8zO3wsXU/video.html and that is what I was talking about, right on under the bonnet at that black area . Looks like CZcams is very aggressive on black to light-gray colors. But don't let this ruin the video. Great review but the car looks like a wild boar.
The brakes from the clubsport are just as big
Dual caliper?
@@krane15 theyre identical, less paint
It's not a "DSG gearbox" that's essentially you saying Direct Shift Gearbox Gearbox.
DS Gearbox! Come on man.
Would not go4 a golf so bloody boring looking!!!!! has always been a square box on wheels, its about time VW got their finger out of their arses and designed a completely new model!!!!
If you're going to run a car channel, you need a proper performance meter. Get a Dragy and stop with the bullshit phone apps.
“GOLF R REIEW”? 🤣
Golf 8 = 🤢🤮🤮🤮
U dont have a better car mate
czcams.com/video/mFXvFwiq8z8/video.html
Haters gonna hate.