Are We Optimistic About Tech with Hasan Minhaj
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- This week, Marques and Andrew sit down with Hasan Minhaj! They discuss everything from fantasy basketball to whether or not artificial intelligence can create art. There are a lot of upsides to new technologies, but there are also some serious negative aspects of technology that are worth discussing (hence this 2-hour long conversation). Despite all the downsides, Marques sheds some light on how he thinks about technology and continues to stay optimistic about the future. This is a good one!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
02:00 Hasan Minhaj intro and fantasy basketball
07:55 Art and Basketball
20:33 Ad break
20:35 Hasan asks questions from his sticky notes
21:30 Staying honest as the CZcams algorithm has grown
30:00 Hasan's problem with tech
38:49 Is social media good for the entertainment industry?
49:31 Ad break
49:37 Screen addictions and anxiety
01:02:55 Conversations about AI and DALL-E 2
01:14:50 How to fix Twitter and incentivizing positive behavior online
01:43:45 Elon Musk coverage and interviewing important people
01:55:34 A Race to Z with Hasan Minhaj
01:49:45 Outro
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Hasan seems like the guy who always wanted to chat with Marques and didn’t waste the opportunity lol 10/10 crossover
Indeed! I think this conversation will go down as one of the most important conversations of the era. I appreciate Hasan politely challenging Marques on questions of social impact and the thoughtful dialogue.
facts. I think this is the kind of conversation many people in the comments would love to have with Marques
Did you catch the line before a break where Hasan was like "I really want to hang out with you and chat but I knew that doing this podcast is the only way I could do it"
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"The internet and technology created an idea of infinity. The reason why life is beautiful is because it is fundamentally limited. "
- Hasan Minhaj 2022
I think we're just not yet adapted to infinity. It's just a new thing, and we'll adapt to it just like we adapt to once revolutionary things like deliberately growing food, having bright lights at night, controlling metal boxes at high speed, etc. It just takes time.
life would be dead if the world is fundamentally limited.
It's an IDEA of infinity, not a reality..
@@drainedzombie2508 who in your knowledge has had infinite of anything?
@@misterkayy no one and no one shall. But every living organism strives for it. Thats Sanatana Dharma.
PLEASE hire him for "Sh** that doesn't work with Hassan Minhaj" I'd be so happy and it'll add a comedy spin to your already awesome tech videos lol
tech and comedy a match made in heaven
lmfao, I'm pretty surevthey can't afford him, he's at least o their level but probably higher. his show shouldn't have been canceled, it was bang on spot.
@@jemiebridges3197i mean..he pitched it. He could easily do it for free
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I highly agree with this.
I love that Marques still sees the beauty of technology and Hasan is just there to warn him not to drown in the love of tech. what a beautiful episode
Totally agreed 💯
Hasan came in hard with the older brother vibes. Please bring him on again in a year or so - I'd love to see you guys revisit some of these topics, especially around Twitter, Hasan's shorts (which he must do!), updates on AI, ultra rich tech ceos, etc. and the whole "society of the spectacle" stuff Hasan alluded to.
I like eggs.
I love how Hasan daps up Marques and shakes hands with Andrew 😂
01:59:53 Reminds one of Key & Peele’s Obama skit
This is the exact comment I was hoping to see🤣🤣🤣
@@Kwezi_42 uuu
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I saw that 😂
Since no one else has stated the obvious, this is the crossover we didn't know we need!🙌🏾
Cringe
Hasan literally said that in the video.
I was looking for this comment as soon as Hasan mentioned it. Thanks man
@@MrTekniqs that's probably the point of the comment.
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When Marques brings out the tablet and Hasan brings out the post-it notes.. you know it's going to be one hell of a conversation! Loved every minute of it.
😭😭 that was so much deeper as I was expecting. But it also showed the very nature of how hasan and marquess being optimistic had their stories and worries extrapolated by the environment they are exposed to. Also giving insight into how marques managed to stay sane or the evidence presented by hasan of news etching to the internet just by few bad actors having incentive of no skin in the game, only adding to the worries was explored through all their lenses. Give me great pleasure in knowing that Hassan is using his platform to discuss ideas openly rather than just advocating. 😅
What a bonkers episode. Hasan is clearly such an intelligent person and expresses himself beautifully, but still highly values the views of differently opinionated people, even if they seem a little misled. I love how he took this conversation as an opportunity to express his ideas to Marques and his audience with an open mind, and explore Marques and Andrew's views and personality in ways that they haven't publicly. I'll be checking out his other "content" for sure.
I like Hasan and admire the way he sees the world and tries to understand how things work. I slightly disagree with you in how he expresses himself, he tends to go the more verbose route with his economy of words. He's a comedian so I'll give him a pass since his art form is not about being conscie but rather more drawn out story telling to get his point across
Keep these long-form interviews coming!! Can’t get enough! I love that this wasn’t trimmed to an hour!
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PREACH! The more content, the better!
This is easily one of my fave episodes of any podcast ever. If I had a hall of fame of videos/podcast episodes this will be added. Great conversations and I think Hasan and Marques have a different perspective on tech that makes the whole episodes so interesting to listen to. 2 hours flew by!
The amount of thought provoking sentences in this podcast is insane. One of the best podcasts I have ever listened.
Really? Is it really insane? Your comment is an example of the very internet culture they are describing where reality gets described in overly dranatic ways.
I can't tell if you're being genuine or not. This was a good episode, but I didn't walk away as spellbound. Anything in particular resonated with you that really grabbed you?
I remember a few years ago Hasan had this bit about how he had to take pride in his name and make people pronounce it correctly, because if they could get Timothee Chalamet right, they could get Hasan Minhaj right. It makes me really happy to see that everyone embraced that.
As an software engineer, I am actually right in the middle of Hasan and Marques' perspective. Even though I am very optimistic about technology, I am at the same time very sceptic about new and existing technology and it's influence on people and society. Very funny to be at both sides at the spectrum and see that in this long form interview. Long fan of both Hasan and Marques!
One of the absolute BEST episodes of Wavefomr. Also just a great "interview" in general, tough more like a conversation than an actual interview. Very nice, more like this please!
Aren't these meant to be conversational and not an interview. Seemed like two dudes who respect each other and have mutual overlapping interests that they were talking through
I really like this Collab. , as i saw how there was ice to be broken between them, more flowy conversations between them even if the topics are pre-selected. I really also enjoyed seeing how someone like Hassan really challenged Marques view on Technologies with a real sense of skepticism and being warry of the future. Hope to see more of these episodes in the future.
Yeah 👍
I feel like Hasan is one of the few people that are concerned about where tech might go and it's a little bit alarming that it's not talked about more. Even tho there are some positives it seems like it's all a mask for the negative parts of tech because the negatives do have a big impact
Honestly though! I'm happy for his contribution. We need to talk about this more.
Bravo.
MKBHD has a duty in asking tough questions from these CEOs - 100% agree with Hasan. Would love to see this - if they have a good answer, it incentivises good behaviour.
What an incredible podcast episode. Hasan is so on the ball and prepared for this like an interview and Marques is incredibly well spoken to respond with so much of himself.
Simply the smartest 2 hours I’ve listened to in ages. Everyone brought their “A” game. Articulate, insightful, and fresh! I will download this one to archive for repeat listening. Thanks guys!
Personally think this is one of the most important tech videos of the year. Was not expecting this, but was glued to the full 2 hours. Thank you for letting him flip the script on you.
The tempo they each bring is maybe opposite but the love and sincerity hits the same. Great episode.
Hey it’s been a few weeks since this episode came out so I’m late to the party but hopefully someone in MKBHD staff sees this comment. I absolutely love this episode and longer form episodes like this. This deep-dive into tech ethics and overarching themes with tech corporations was super fun to listen to especially because everyone in the room seemed totally engaged. It’ll be hard to find another podcast guest that wants to interview you guys as much as the other way around but I’d love to hear more like this in the future. You guys are great and I want you all to know that the nobility and honesty Minhaj talks about is the reason I come back to you guys every week.
I’d tweet this but I’m a “lurker-only” Twitter user by policy
This was actually amazing. The chemistry between the Marques and Hasan is so good because they are coming from such different perspectives but still have so many connections.
Definitely the deepest a waveform episode has gone, but it was hella enjoyable. A lot of my tech worries do fall on the side where Hasan was troubled by the inherent NEED of being plugged in, but I also do find myself just conforming because it's easy. A lot of cool stuff to think about and unpack in this one.
I plan to listen this on repeat. Been listening to waveform clips for a while, this is the video that made me subscribe to the real deal.
I use and build technology everyday, but that is 100% not the reason why I've been gobbling up Marques' videos. It's the craftsmanship and personality.
I really miss Hasan's Patriot Act show. I'll be on a lookout for more of his work. Hassan's a badass.
Really unexpected to see Hasan on an episode. Fantastic and deeply philosophical discussion. Honestly the best episode I've heard from you guys.
I've seen lots of interviews with Hasan and this is probably his best interview. What probably made it good is that you have two people that love exploring ideas and have broad perspectives to pull from. Another reason might be that Hasan wanted to interview Marques because I've never heard of a guest asking the host how much time they have left to podcast
Hands down one of my fav episodes to date! Such a good crossover and discussion
This episode is like a movie and I am going to enjoy it.
Yup, I Took an intermission as well 😂
There's a richness and level of care I love that goes into crafting 2 hour videos, or long form content generally, that typically can't live in shorter videos. Hasan and Marques are two of my favourite people to listen to on complex topics who have an opinion but are still open to good faith discussions and nuance. Never saw this collab coming but so glad it exists, as lengthy as it is.
I listened to the audio...but came here to tell you that this is EASILY one of the best podcast interviews I have heard in a while. 2 hours wasn't enough for me. I wanted more. Thanks for making my commute more enjoyable!!!
The fact that hasan felt the need to apologize at the end for “disagreeing” with marques struck me as so odd, really drove home the point that the types of people he normally interacts with are much more toxic than a healthy level, I hope this was a breath of fresh air for him!
This is hands down one of the best episodes of any podcast I've listened.
I wish more people talked about these things. The pace at which our lives are changing due to tech is astounding and it makes me wonder how the future generations are going to adapt to these things and not fundamentally change the perception of what it is being human.
I absolutely loved this conversation and the contrast in perspective Hasan brings.
I personally tend to be a bit more skeptical about our future with tech and the level to which it will be ingrained in our lives. We need more people thinking about the future and consequences of the way currently the tech is going.
This episode is going to be timeless and I am going to be sharing this with people to spark a much needed conversation about these topics.
It’s lovely to hear Hasan talk about life in this way.
I think the explanation is there is another level of feeling beyond smell, touch, taste or sight that none of us can explain or materialize.
There is some level of spirit or soul or whatever you want to call it that can never be replicated by machine. But it’s something that changes everything.
Thanks for this 🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ longer episode too…yayyyyy🎉🎉🎉🎉
This was my first ep of the podcast, and I definitely plan on tuning in at work now! I loved the types of conversations in this one
Two visionaries nerding out about so many topics on my mind. Much respect for both of you! Thank you for this epic collaboration and a fantastic long-form interview ❤
The was so refreshing to watch someone being so involved in the conversation and yet being from another industry. More episodes like are appreciated!
I never leave a comment but wow, wasn’t expecting this from a waveform podcast and very happy you let him talk even though it’s a longer than normal podcast. Also big up to the editing which is also top notch!
not a collab I would ever expect but im loving it
My biggest thing, as a millennial who's about 30ish, with the whole "omg ditch our phones and just live in the moment, stop recording everything" sentiment. Like sure... But also, Alzheimer's and mental decay exists and as i get older and think about mortality and look back at moments i DON'T have photo or video of and regret that. Memories are fallible and i don't think it's a bad thing to commemorate moments of people/places/things/events/ that in the grand scheme of things are all temporary. I just feel like it doesn't have to be all one way or the other. Someone taking a couple photos or a video of their favorite song at a concert doesn't mean they didn't experience the concert. People can multi-task, people can aim the phone without staring at the view finder the whole time. Like i think people make a way bigger deal out of people taking photos of things than it actually is. Just, kinda like Andrew said, all the negatives of tech have a positive flip side and it's just not as simple as just "baaahhhh all tech is bad and ruining society ahhhhh". Acknowledge the nuance.
I love photography but I hate that pictures, which are an integral part of the human experience, have been monetized, data-mined, and basically weaponized *against* people.
I go back and forth with how I feel about taking pictures when I think something cool is presenting itself. A nice sunset on a calm day with city lights reflecting off the surface of the ocean, puppy sleeping in a cute pose, random interesting things that evoke a "wow this is cool, lemme save it" moment.
In my experience there are a lot of those moments and they just end up getting lost under the deluge of those other moments. Ideally a picture should be a call back to a memory anchor point that takes you back to that day/time when it was taken. Then from there you replay the events prior and afterwards.
When all you had was a film camera every shot counted even if it sucked. With our modern phones, you lose the value of the moment cuz you're so focused on getting it right, you miss the event that's actually happening. You become detached from the moment and end up observing yourself from a 3rd person perspective.
As a 40 yo dude who's watched all this come up, mental pictures where you're experiencing the moment event in real time is way better. Sure you may forget, but that's what friends and family are for to jog that memory.
I advocate being present. Sorry for the long rant
@@theglowcloud2215out of curiosity, why do you think photography is such a key aspect of the human experience? It's only been around for 200ish years. I wonder how much our capturing tools are starting to impact us from an individual to a societal perspective.
It seems like it fosters more narcissistic behavior which doesn't bode well for collaboration
This was excellent, incredibly insightful to hear Hasan's view on the world, and to see his keen mind turned to interviewing you both! Thanks for helping us curate the internet we want to see.
i really watch a 2 hour podcast because of this crossover and how deep and thoughtful it turned into. good job guys
This podcast was so deep. You guys both have significantly different experiences observing how tech effects our society. I love that Hasan was able to ask questions as well because it produced great back and forth conversation. Would love to see you do more podcasts like this!
I'm an audio only listener, but I had to come here and say that I really appreciated how thoughtful and civil this conversation was. I loved all of Hasan's questions, and it was great to hear Marques thinking through all of them. This is probably the best episode of WVFRM so far. Keep it up guys.
Amazing podcast episode! Like the insights and back-and-forth conversation. We did need this. Keep up the good work.
I can't believe how amazing this episode is. This mix of technology and how it impacts the world in this chill MKBHD format is just 🔥🔥🔥
Finally, as a tech head. I really like Hassan is so on privacy, being the product and being human. I hope to see more of this from people!
Took me a while to get through the whole thing, but that was definitely your best podcast I've heard. Two very different views on the current state of technology (or at least social media) discussed with the proper deference for each others view. Really good stuff, I hope some of your CEO interviewees listen to this as well.
This was hands downy favorite guest and best conversation you guys have had in the show. Great Job guys. Looking forward to those Shorts with Hasan.
This was such a fun interview! So many topics covered
Awesome collaboration, really enjoyed the conversation of two down-to-earth and smart people!
Damn wasn't expecting this collab, keep it up!!
Love to see these two worlds collide. A brilliant episode.
Was not expecting to such an insightful and well paced discussion. Wonderful points and counter points, such a great listen. Thanks!
This was so good. Discussions like this and the ideas they carry last. Can’t wait to see more.
Best episode yet, I loved how in depth the conversations got and how there was a lot of cordial disagreement. These kinds of discussions makes for such an intriguing listen. I would love to see some more of Hasan on the channel!
This is my favorite interview. I love how Hasan did a lot of pushback and to hear Marques response to it. This was refreshing.
This episode is just the best one of the year. Because of the content and the topics you guys touch. Personal I feel the same way in ideas you guys talked about.
Thank you for providing some insights into your business, motivations and incentives. I hope cross interviews like this will become more widely represented.
Love these kind of conversations. Deep conversations about technology like these need to be occurring in inside every tech companies.
This was my favorite WVFRM podcast ever. Loved how Hasan put you on the hot spot
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Man, i’ve listened to this episode dozens of times and i still learn more each time i do.
best one yet, and realy insightfull. thanx
Seriously loved this one, really an awesome conversation!
I'm normally an audio only listener of this podcast, but I had to come here to say what an excellent interview this was. You guys absolutely need to have Hasan back sometime for another interview. Also I'm looking forward to seeing these video ideas come to life!
The ultimate best episode ever!! More Hasan!! Loved how well the convo flowed
Nice... loved this interview. In the top 5 so far definitely!
This was an AMAZING discussion. Deep, smart, well articulated, interesting, honest. Best 2 hours I've watched in months. ❤
This was an incredible conversation.
Deep meanful discussion which I found very insightful. Only the second time I have commented on your channel because of how impactful it was.
Loved it👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Two of my favourite creators in one video. What more could I ask?
watching Hasan on this press/podcast tour, what really stands out to me is that he has a deep interest in people and he cares a lot about their perspective on the world. what a legend
Boy, that was a great interview!
yo this was like the best interview waveform - the conversation: mint
One of the best episodes I watched. Amazing topics guys, you killed it.
That may have been one of the most interesting conversations with someone I didn't even know prior to the interview. Well done 👍🏻
My favourite waveform interview. Props to everyone 👏
This was a beautiful conversation, very deep! Loved it intensely
Damn! This was an amazing convo!!!
That was by for the best episode You really need to do more like that I love the fact that he came in there and just totally flip the table on you guys when asking you guys questions please more interviews like that
Hasan has a great vocabulary! Definitely a great interview and pushing the boundaries of the viewers! Thanks for this collaboration Team!
Tbh I can listen to Hasan Minhaj forever, He should start his own podcast that will be deep and dope.
Damn you guys got deep! Wasn't expecting this crossover but this episode was absolutely insane!
Made me subscribe to the waveform channel. A collab we never thought we needed.
Subbed after this, it's an amazing pod
Loved how in-depth this was.
This was such a good discussion. Love some nuanced and respectful conversation
Can't wait for Hasan's shorts! This is my favorite episode yet. Hasan's discernment of humanity + empathetic comedy = *chef's kiss* Great vibes from all these guys. That's why I keep coming back this content.
really really enjoyed the in-depth conversations, more of that pls
Probably my favorite podcast episode you guys have so far. Such great conversations.
Fascinating. Eye opening. Thought provoking. Yes yes yes! Thanks guys. Great chat. Great episode!
I made sure to come here to watch this episode. Usually listen on Apple Podcasts, but this is a special episode. They both dropped a lot of gems in this one! Hope to see Hasan back for more!
The year is off to a great start. Great video.
been waiting for this 🤩
This was very unexpected but extremely good to watch! Awesome podcast!!
Awesome guest, would love to see more interview/convos with thoughtful people like HM
Marques, thank you for this episode. The depth, the quality of the content, and your thoughts, just satisfied my ego so much. You guys were right, I did not know I needed this.
Arguably one of the best episodes of waveform ever. This is definitely one of the deepest conversation I've ever heard around tech.