3 Shocking Garage Fires Involving Electric Vehicles

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  • čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
  • An electric vehicle burning in a garage can be a terrifying experience, and in this video, we'll explore three different incidents involving garage fires and electric vehicles. From battery failures to the challenges faced by firefighters, we'll uncover the hidden dangers of charging electric vehicles. Stay tuned to learn more about these shocking incidents and why it's crucial to take precautions when charging your EV. Don't forget to subscribe for more eye-opening videos like this!
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    Incident 1: • Electric Vehicle Fire
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:32 - Colorado EV (I-Pace) Garage Fire
    03:30 - Special Announcement
    04:16 - 2024 Michigan (Tesla) Electric Vehicle Garage Fire
    05:39 - 2023 Michigan (Tesla) Electric Vehicle Garage Fire

Komentáře • 445

  • @StacheDTraining
    @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci +25

    I apologize - Voice audio is only on the left channel due to an editing error.

    • @JUNGLEISMASSIVE.
      @JUNGLEISMASSIVE. Před 5 měsíci +4

      No worries we heard you loud and clear.

    • @LantanaLiz
      @LantanaLiz Před 5 měsíci

      The sound is fine. I thought I heard them say in that video that the tow trucks were also owned by their fire department specifically for this sort of event? I can't see them endangering members of the public with such a procedure, so it'd make sense that it's all in house for the tow trucks and drivers.

  • @stevenikitas8170
    @stevenikitas8170 Před 5 měsíci +98

    Every one of these EV fires is a toxic, hazmat situation. Where are the environmentalists to protest? How much does each one of those blankets cost?

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 Před 5 měsíci +21

      Not just the cost of the blanket but also all that PPE and breathing aparatus

    • @seattlesix9953
      @seattlesix9953 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Executive back room response… sucks to be you

    • @jeffreycheng5984
      @jeffreycheng5984 Před 5 měsíci

      "If you want to see how much of a fraud green energy is, take the time to view the documentary Planet Of The Humans."- Dane Wigington.

    • @LivnintheLight
      @LivnintheLight Před 5 měsíci +7

      You would think Elon would love our world. Too bad he thinks he's god.

    • @delanorrosey4730
      @delanorrosey4730 Před 5 měsíci +15

      *$3,500 - $4,500 per.

  • @greatalaska6429
    @greatalaska6429 Před 5 měsíci +62

    I like to keep the house extra warm during the winter, but not that warm.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci

      I think it was just trying to heat the batteries 🤔

  • @DCGreenZone
    @DCGreenZone Před 5 měsíci +67

    Are manufacturers liable for the damage, or are our homeowner's insurance rates going to double and triple.

    • @DownEastSaw
      @DownEastSaw Před 5 měsíci

      Manufacturers are not liable for damages that their products cause after purchase, unless gross negligence can be proven. NO, Tesla/porsche/chevy/etc are not going to pay for your burned down house.
      Please open your eyes to the truth through research about the reality of electric cars. Then spread that truth. We don’t need the governments spending their citizens money to force the production of dangerous, ineffective “environmental” transportation.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 Před 5 měsíci +13

      you already KNOW the answer...

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Před 5 měsíci

      @@CosmicSeeker69 Not to worry, Leon will start an AI homeowner's insurance company that will fix everything. I promise.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Před 5 měsíci +6

      rate increase... INCOMING...!!!

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Před 5 měsíci +6

      How many Toyota Prius with the Nickel Metal Hydride IIRC battery set themselves on broil. Wait until the rolling toaster ovens aka Cybertrucks set themselves on broil.

  • @Gman99823
    @Gman99823 Před 5 měsíci +36

    Seems very dangerous to move while still on fire. Drivers on road exposed to burning lithium fumes.

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee Před 5 měsíci +1

      As opposed to exhaust fumes from the numerous other vehicles?
      While covered in the fire blanket and moving, the fumes are probably barely, if at all, making it into your vehicle.
      The initial fire did more harm, fume wise, to the neighborhood and it's residents than traffic along its route.
      Fumes aside, moving it while thermal runaway is a possibility, is very risky.

    • @BlacKnightRising
      @BlacKnightRising Před 5 měsíci

      yea? well there's no person to date that suffers from actual lung damage from ICE cars, unliket people exposed to burning teslas toxic black smoke resulting in permanent lung damage, so nice try shill@@James_Bee

  • @SuperMassman
    @SuperMassman Před 5 měsíci +35

    ☝️😑 QUESTION: what about the house itself AFTER the garage fire? Toxic fumes entering the wood, insulation, rugs, walls etc... has anyone tested for toxins?

    • @Smokkedandslammed
      @Smokkedandslammed Před 5 měsíci +8

      That's what we call "free extra flavor!"

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 Před 5 měsíci

      All house fires are toxic.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Exactly, and I am sure the homes and neighborhoods that were passed by the smoldering EV convoy were not made aware of the smokey trail of toxicity.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s Před 5 měsíci +3

      It’s no different than a regular car fire, or setting your couch on fire. It’s all toxic.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@markthomas207all fires are toxic, get real.

  • @Diogenes425
    @Diogenes425 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Sooner or later the insurance companies are going to wake up & put a halt to those EV firetraps!

  • @seattlesix9953
    @seattlesix9953 Před 5 měsíci +11

    The channel’s growth is due to being in the right place at the right time.

    • @Y2Kvids
      @Y2Kvids Před 5 měsíci +1

      There would be a lot more content if it covered ICE fires .

    • @James_Bee
      @James_Bee Před 5 měsíci +1

      *gives you a captains hat*
      You are no longer just "Mr. Obvious".

    • @youngroosevelt38
      @youngroosevelt38 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@Y2Kvids
      Yeah but everyone knows about ice fires and what can cause them. Plus you can find that anywhere. Ev fires are different and new and he's a firefighter.

    • @DHW256
      @DHW256 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@Y2Kvids I've experienced many ICE car fires because I work on/restore very old, worn-out cars. I keep extinguishers in all my cars, including three new ICE cars, the older daily driver ICE car, and the two 100 year-old ICE cars. I've never had to call a fire department to help me with any car fire, and no ICE car fire has lasted more than a few seconds. Only once did one of those fires require a rated extinguisher, and it required a squirt lasting about 1/4 second.
      It's almost infinitely easier to extinguish an ICE fire than it is an EV fire, because agents have almost immediate access to ICE car fire fuels. Sadly, firefighters typically have ZERO access to fuel sources in EVs, so the dominate methodology for dealing with EV fires is to "let them burn themselves out." In other words, comparing ICE car fires to EV car fires is like comparing apples to buffalo turds. This problem has been widely known for many decades now.
      Seeing how Ford was forced to recall about 15 million ICE cars due to an electrical problem that _could_ cause a fire, I think it's time to recall the EVs that carry the inherent risk of fire due to faulty design. Oh, wait, that would require all EVs and their battery components to be recalled!, and there's no fix for them!

  • @drunkbuzzard3237
    @drunkbuzzard3237 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Rapid unscheduled disassembly

  • @kevinW826
    @kevinW826 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Don’t forget about the EV bus fire in Manchester UK last Thursday. It had people on the bus.

    • @SuperBartet
      @SuperBartet Před 5 měsíci

      "@kevinW826
      2 hours ago
      Don’t forget about the EV bus fire in Manchester UK last Thursday. It had people on the bus." I have not heard about this one, I know two EV bus's exploded in London last week. If you have a link to the info, please share.

    • @kevinW826
      @kevinW826 Před 5 měsíci

      @@SuperBartet the CZcams channel MGUY, a lawyer from the UK living in Australia posted a video on Friday morning with footage from the bus fire. It was a follow up to this Jaguar I-Pace fire.

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 Před 5 měsíci

      Don't forget about the Luton ICE car fire or the Freemantle ICE car fire. There was one died and others injured.

    • @tubewayarmy2
      @tubewayarmy2 Před 5 měsíci

      Luton was a battery fire on an electric diesel hybrid.

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 Před 5 měsíci

      @@tubewayarmy2 It was a pure ICE diesel car. The claim that is was electric or hybrid has been debunked. A hybrid diesel combination is not very common. However, Hybrids are even worse than ICE cars and ICE cars are way more likely to catch than BEV cars.

  • @davidsmith-ry6ps
    @davidsmith-ry6ps Před 5 měsíci +8

    Not a garage fire. Its the automatic extreme cold heat function.😂

  • @DownEastSaw
    @DownEastSaw Před 5 měsíci +127

    If electric vehicle owners understood electricity, they wouldn’t have bought an electric car in the first place……….

    • @basbass429
      @basbass429 Před 5 měsíci +7

      haha lol

    • @wassiswallylokhankin191
      @wassiswallylokhankin191 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Like they understand gasoline.

    • @Hugo-py2ce
      @Hugo-py2ce Před 5 měsíci

      Now, this is some b******t comment, and ignorant.
      Not all EVs are created equal, and gas cars catch on fire at a way higher rate than most EVs. Do some research.
      And to be honest, teslas are 1000 times safer than the other EVs. Other EVs are pretty much crap.

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw Před 5 měsíci +11

      I see you have smoked the EVangelists out.

    • @paulhetherington6022
      @paulhetherington6022 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Same applies to any vehicle really.

  • @jimharrow8104
    @jimharrow8104 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Why are insurance companies insuring these electric bombs ???

    • @alxgu198
      @alxgu198 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Because they can just charge everyone else more, to offset their losses 🤷.

  • @EmilioBaldi
    @EmilioBaldi Před 5 měsíci +6

    "Treat it as a HAZMAT scene"
    That is an HAZMAT disaster!

    • @yodaiam1000
      @yodaiam1000 Před 5 měsíci

      ICE fires are not exactly safe. Neither are tanker explosion and accidents, or pipeline leaks etc. Yes, it is a Hazmat scene but also consider there are similar issues with ICE cars.

  • @paulhetherington6022
    @paulhetherington6022 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Great video. It would be interesting to know if any of these vehicles had been in an accident. It takes little time to pull the battery and open it up and physically check inside after a shunt but it's never done.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I doubt, however, that a visual inspection, as you describe, would be adequate, you can't see the whole battery.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Před 5 měsíci +1

      Find the video where they were trying to open up a Tesla battery, sealed with adhesive foam... OMG... it may have crooked smirk Munro turned cheerleader.

    • @fyahoo
      @fyahoo Před 5 měsíci +2

      You are talking toy car batteries, right??
      You obviously don't know how much work or cost it takes to pull an EV battery.

    • @fyahoo
      @fyahoo Před 5 měsíci +1

      You are talking toy car batteries, right??
      You obviously don't know how much work or cost it takes to pull an EV battery.

    • @DCGreenZone
      @DCGreenZone Před 5 měsíci

      @@fyahoo Your computer is prone to double and triple clone posts.

  • @misiopuchatek152
    @misiopuchatek152 Před 5 měsíci +4

    “But those are just random ultra rare accidents, not common rule”.
    Repeat this thousand times…

    • @Peter-pv8xx
      @Peter-pv8xx Před měsícem

      So they don't matter then is what you're insinuating? So as these rechargeable vehicles become more prolific and incidents begin involving fatalities will you continue to be nonchalant I mean normal everyday house fires are rare, I'm going to guess that maybe you aren't a homeowner and therefore this sort of thing will never happen to you, I'll bet all those people aboard the Titanic thought that they had a one in a thousand chance of ending up in the water that fateful night.

  • @cedhome7945
    @cedhome7945 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Have you watched John cadogan or mguy Australia bouth engineer's you will learn lot of technical details including the hazard of toxic gass from ev fire's

  • @cmcer1995
    @cmcer1995 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Great content and educational material. More people need to know about the hazards of electric vehicles, and I try sharing that information in comments encouraging people to check out videos on CZcams and other sources that explain the Truth about the lithium battery. I am a fan of SMFR as well, a very well-trained FD. I also learned something that I was unaware of on the difference of an electric with and without battery involvement.

  • @marcodarko6941
    @marcodarko6941 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Bet that house with all that permeated smoke residue inside is more toxic and dangerous than a building that's had a meth lab inside of it.

  • @RealButcher
    @RealButcher Před 5 měsíci +3

    Good talk. Thanks for this differentiating on these different types of EV fire's.

  • @andreglomm9843
    @andreglomm9843 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for the Video

  • @kevandrobsmusicakafrankies8765

    This was a great video. Thank you for your expertise!!!!!

  • @aaron___6014
    @aaron___6014 Před 5 měsíci +3

    EV's pair well with the new high density housing developments, don't you think?

  • @pawwalton2157
    @pawwalton2157 Před 5 měsíci +18

    EV chargers can keep your garages really toasty!😊

  • @geoff37s38
    @geoff37s38 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The lesson here is to think very carefully before buying an EV. Be aware of the risks of garaging and charging in your home and make sure your smoke alarms are properly installed and working. Then ask yourself this question … is buying an EV a good idea and worth the risk? The probability of your EV destroying itself in a toxic volcano is low , but the consequences are potentially catrostrophic.

  • @jonathonalsum9063
    @jonathonalsum9063 Před 5 měsíci

    Poking the algo! Great stuff! 🎉

  • @CoryRwtfyt
    @CoryRwtfyt Před 5 měsíci +2

    I've dealt with spicy pillows in small electronics for quite awhile now. I'd never want a jumbo sized spicy pillow in my garage.

  • @thruknobulaxii2020
    @thruknobulaxii2020 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Gotta wonder, what does it do to the tow-truck’s vehicle insurance after they loaded-up a burning vehicle?
    If there was an accident en-route, do you think the insurance co. would pay up?

    • @okiesailor5417
      @okiesailor5417 Před 5 měsíci

      The tow truck would not be picking the vehicle up unless the insurance company has already seen the car and completed their paperwork. If the tow truck were to get in an accident with a burned out vehicle, the insurance would still pay for the burned car as it was more than likely already totaled by the insurance company. Tow truck owners insurance would pay for the tow truck only.

    • @thruknobulaxii2020
      @thruknobulaxii2020 Před 5 měsíci

      @@okiesailor5417 👍

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Před 5 měsíci +2

      On a related note, if the tow truck was carrying an EV that went into thermal runaway on the way to the shop would the tow company's insurance cover the cost to replace the tow truck?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 Před 5 měsíci +2

      ​@@ghost307that's why most don't carry them in the first place.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Let's consider as well the cost that the county or city paid at the end of the day to put out and control one EV fire. There looked to be about 4 firetrucks,
      20 fire fighters, two or three police vehicles, and maybe 4-5 hours of multi department hourly wages.

  • @jranes686
    @jranes686 Před 5 měsíci +5

    The one thing nobody seems to talk about is fumes from the EV fires. It has all the same issues that a normal car has with fumes plus the batteries fumes. The fumes from the batteries is so much more toxic than normal car fires that it needs to be dealt with instead of humans breathing it not know how bad the fumes are for them. Then in years or decades they have breathing issues from this toxic brew.
    I like the idea of EV's but we are so far from doing it right. It kills me that we are pushing so hard when we do not have the batteries or infrastructure to handle EV's. Its almost like the politicians have mone in the EV companies and are pushing them at all cost! ;(

  • @AllSeeingHeart
    @AllSeeingHeart Před 5 měsíci +1

    🔥 Electric Vehicles Seem Like a GR8 IDA. Strength! GODspeed!

  • @jeffk4223
    @jeffk4223 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Very eco friendly from start to finish.

  • @JUNGLEISMASSIVE.
    @JUNGLEISMASSIVE. Před 5 měsíci

    This is awesome content.

  • @robertsandidge441
    @robertsandidge441 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I’m 62 years old owned an I.C.M. Vehicle since I was 16 and have owned MANY, I don’t seem to remember ANY of them SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUSTING! EVER! But I am old.

  • @iamtheoffenderofall
    @iamtheoffenderofall Před 5 měsíci +2

    To be fair, how many car fires were there in this time frame where people had a fire in their garage?

  • @sgonnason9120
    @sgonnason9120 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks for filling in the details. Those people would start a fire with a space heater, not the cars fault. What would of happened if they had full tanks of fuel. 🔥

  • @39FORTYWATER
    @39FORTYWATER Před 5 měsíci +1

    Is there a blanket large enough for big vehicles? How can they wrap it and tow the truck or bus?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci +1

      At this point, no. A blanket that size would likely be too heavy to manage.

  • @ayylien
    @ayylien Před 5 měsíci +4

    Problem with EV is everyone thinks "EV, Go Green" but they don't understand the battery technology or electrical knowledge. This means that owners are driving spontaneous fires on wheels without even knowing amp ratings for extension cords, load on outlets, not to charge their cars in garages, or even how to escape their cars in case of total electrical failure (locks are electrical).

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 Před 5 měsíci

      Oh, and believe me, as a handyman, I see so many code issues/violations in garages where someone has modified the existing outlets, lights, etc. I have seen inside a neighbor's garage where, to reach some additional attic space, someone removed a large swath of the fire rated drywall. Scary stuff, and consider too, the blowtorch created by some of these EV fires essentially negates the hour burn through originally expected with thicker fire proof drywall.

    • @user-ln7of9gs4s
      @user-ln7of9gs4s Před 5 měsíci

      It’s not just going green, people buy them for other reasons. Most people don’t buy them for going green, it’s a lot simpler to maintain, fuel costs and be less and they can be more fun to drive.

  • @monarch1957
    @monarch1957 Před 5 měsíci +2

    That's one reason I would never own a electric car plus the $60,000 costs to replace the batteries.

  • @bigDH123
    @bigDH123 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Did anyone else see the fireman at the very start of the clip at 35 sec. actually standing directly in the toxic smoke without PPE. You can't tell me everyone was wearing proper PPE.

  • @yamama7265
    @yamama7265 Před 5 měsíci +2

    My gas car starts just fine 😂😂😂

  • @motleydude73
    @motleydude73 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Was one in NZ too, destroyed 2 houses. And a Mercedes at a showroom in Malaysia on NYE.

  • @christophersmith5303
    @christophersmith5303 Před 5 měsíci

    A remote power tap and an extension cord? Wow. Just wow.

  • @steelem422
    @steelem422 Před 5 měsíci

    We all like your stuff good work!

  • @TheColonelKlink
    @TheColonelKlink Před 5 měsíci +1

    Shocking but unfortunately not surprising.

  • @supertec2023
    @supertec2023 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'm reading a lot of comments right now because of the cold weather in Chicago now people are charging all their cars in the garage because it's too cold outside to charge them that means you're going to have more of these situations and somebody's going to lose their life a because it's too damn cold outside or they burn

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 Před 5 měsíci

      I wonder what's higher, that or people getting co poisoning from leaving their cars running in the garage?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Gives a whole new meaning to range anxiety 😂

    • @supertec2023
      @supertec2023 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ianrobertson3419 will on modern cars I could tell you that most of them will not allow to idle for more than 10 minutes I've seen this on several new Honda models and it is a problem of possibility and luckily most people do know about the danger of carbon dioxide poisoning unlike EV charging in a home garage.

  • @viskovandermerwe3947
    @viskovandermerwe3947 Před 5 měsíci +1

    There should be a You Tube channel dedicated to EV fires. This channel should also be about suspected EV fires such as the Luten fire and the "Dutrch Oven" fire where EV's were present and could make an extinguishable fire impossible because EV runaway fires could exasperate the situation.

    • @Y2Kvids
      @Y2Kvids Před 5 měsíci

      Luton fire was Land Rover. Funnily the Liverpool fire in 2018 was also land rover . I think leaking fuel makes Car park fire with ICE much more dangerous than EV.

    • @viskovandermerwe3947
      @viskovandermerwe3947 Před 5 měsíci

      Please read my comment again. I make ir clear that when EV's are present in a normal fire, then EV's change the character of a normal combatible fire into a "runaway fire", which may require special attention to extinguish. This is then a job for specialist fire men ,woman or other. @@Y2Kvids

  • @paulf9459
    @paulf9459 Před 5 měsíci +4

    EV Hack, don't park your EV in your garage, park it 50 feet from your house or apartment.

  • @yodaiam1000
    @yodaiam1000 Před 5 měsíci

    The firefighters did a great job. In terms of damage to the houses, it looks similar to an ICE car fire probably because they were able to get the HV battery out of the garage. Definitely bad to use a long high gauge extension cord mangled with a bunch of other wires. Use a GFI on the circuit for 120V.
    Regardless of ICE or BEV, there is a risk with a car in an attached garage but a BEV is less likely to catch fire.

  • @JohnHughes2002
    @JohnHughes2002 Před 5 měsíci

    Loving your pronunciation of 'garage' from Blackpool, England. 😂👍

  • @harrymoto6951
    @harrymoto6951 Před 5 měsíci

    "Shocking" garage fires involving EVs
    I was still giggling half way through the video. 😂😅🤣
    In all seriousness, thanks for the excellent content. I worry about my tesla owning friends...

  • @user-fq3ds3oq3j
    @user-fq3ds3oq3j Před 5 měsíci +2

    Help. I am severely handicapped, I have a disability scooter and a stair lift both of which have lithium-ion batteries, one kept in the garage and the other permanently fixed to the staircase.

  • @Tonyscasa
    @Tonyscasa Před 5 měsíci

    I came for the informative video and I stayed for the epic moustache

  • @thehairygolfer
    @thehairygolfer Před 5 měsíci +3

    Mini cheynobel on wheels just waiting to poison your street.

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent Před 5 měsíci

      Russia have the Novichok chemical weapon.
      Tesla have the Tesla-chok. Mobile chemical weapon dispenser for civilian use.

  • @suzanneberger8202
    @suzanneberger8202 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Hazards on wheels, in motion or not 😮

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 Před 5 měsíci

      re: "Hazards on wheels, in motion or not..." ref: "Unsafe At Any Speed: The Designed-in Dangers of the American Automobile", Author Ralph Nader, published circa 1965. also ref: "Those who don't know History are DOOMED to repeat it..." - George Santayana (1863-1952)

  • @cosak23
    @cosak23 Před 5 měsíci

    i can sense the insurance people ramping up the premiums as the video is playing :))

  • @ahorton6786
    @ahorton6786 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Wow that's a huge amount of resources to deal with a simple car fire. How many vehicles, personnel and equipment were involved, the cost yo the tax payer must have been huge.

  • @jimhill6586
    @jimhill6586 Před 5 měsíci

    Many years ago, I would demonstrate a damaged battery runaway. I would take an old cell phone large battery, charge it, run a screw into it. It will burn and become a blow torch. Understand it is stored energy and metals that burn.

  • @dwayne7356
    @dwayne7356 Před 5 měsíci +3

    (first fire) I understand that the blanket was left on to protect other exposures. Judging by the snow on the ground, I think if I could safety remove the blanket I would ASAP. It will help cool down everything instead of "acting like a blanket" and holding the heat in the battery. I realize than the blanket does nothing for the chemical reaction. I am looking forward to more experience on what the best thing to do. I also think that batteries fire responses will be different under different weather conditions too. Another thing to remember is that road salt and water is highly conductive and may make EV likely to short out faster than on a dry summer day if evolve in a car accident.
    Is there a site with a database examining the conditions of EV fires and what worked best or best practices so far?

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 Před 5 měsíci

      Cooling will do nothing. A Telsa still burnt under water.. It's a battery fire. The blanket is only to stop combustion of interior materials.

    • @jdgvee9313
      @jdgvee9313 Před 5 měsíci

      Just remember the blanket keeps oxygen out so everything else doesn't catch fire. Pull the blanket off and it allows more oxygen in to set everything ablaze 🔥

    • @dwayne7356
      @dwayne7356 Před 5 měsíci

      @@jdgvee9313 Think about that for a second. I agree for the first day or two. But how is everything else going to catch on fire again if it is allowed to cool down removing one leg of the old fire triangle? The batteries are going to flare up with or without the blanket. Once the car is put in a safe place does it matter if the batteries cause "everything" to finish burning?
      Maybe the response should be to bring a liquid oxygen truck and turn the fire into a pretty blue flame to ensure complete combustion and be done with in an hour or two.

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts Před 5 měsíci

    The EV manufacturer & its product liability insurance should be paying for all the damages, including property damages, vehicles & the cost of the fire suppression & response when its their fault

  • @SuperchargedSupercharged
    @SuperchargedSupercharged Před 5 měsíci +2

    For my condo HOA, is there somewhere I can find rules already in place? What I want to do is present rules to ban parking or charging EV's or PHEV under the structure in the car ports.

    • @markthomas207
      @markthomas207 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I searched the internet recently for any legislation pending or already enacted, concerning the charging of EVs in multi-family buildings. I live in southern California, an area where Teslas are very popular and the state government is "all in" for making EVs the only ride in town. So, I guess I shouldn't have been too surprised that nobody in our legislative houses has even considered the danger. Instead, I found legislation written, or passed, demanding the existing apartment complexes, and such, provide community charges somewhere in the public parking areas and any new construction will have it incorporate charging facilities into the overall plan. I live in an HOA and we do have several homeowners that charge in their garages at night. Our buildings are 8 units each with shared walls. We have a lot of couples starting their families, five or six babies born recently. Scheduled for tonight's HOA meeting is a discussion on proposed amendments to the CCR concerning EVs and the charging issues. A preview of what that involves includes increased insurance liability for homeowners insurance (at their expense) if they park and charge inside the garage. The state may be AWOL on the issue but HOAs and insurance companies are not.

    • @vanessabailey4092
      @vanessabailey4092 Před 5 měsíci

      They have the same freedom to live their lives as you. Mind your own business. Or pray about it!

    • @SuperchargedSupercharged
      @SuperchargedSupercharged Před 5 měsíci

      You do not have the freedom to burn my condo down or poison me with toxic off gassing while the EV does not get put out in time.@@vanessabailey4092

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci +1

    and the HOA doesn't want to see any trucks, because of aesthetic reasons, so now you're forced to charge your electric CyberTruck and or Rivian in the garage connected to your home, very very smart.

  • @virus-hoax
    @virus-hoax Před 5 měsíci +1

    No doubt, cities are gong to start billing EV owners for the additional expense their vehicle caused the city fire dept. The fire blanket alone costs up to $5K.

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci +1

    and now they are trying to silence him!

  • @LivnintheLight
    @LivnintheLight Před 5 měsíci +1

    It's the Elohim. Thor's Revenge😮

  • @anomamos9095
    @anomamos9095 Před 5 měsíci

    I know those blankets cost around three to seven thousand dollars, are they reusable or do they just get added to the insurance bill?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci +1

      They should be reusable. However, how do you clean them. Removing contaminates is going to be a challenge.

  • @rabokarabekian409
    @rabokarabekian409 Před 5 měsíci

    What, not SHOCKING in all caps?
    Lok it up: with gasoline/diesel vehicles, there are an average of 3,384 fires per year out of a total of 4.4 million vehicles, a fire rate of 1 in 1,300.

  • @Bob-ts2tu
    @Bob-ts2tu Před 5 měsíci +1

    when your tesla goes up in smoke it's gods way of saying you have too much money and too little sense

  • @Gmanxxx1214
    @Gmanxxx1214 Před 5 měsíci

    It's a paradox. Charge the car inside and the garage burns down. Can't charge the car outside in the cold. LOL

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 Před 5 měsíci

    when was the last time a battery tanker crashed and 600 yards of soil had to be excavated because it was polluted?

  • @Poxenium
    @Poxenium Před 5 měsíci

    what do you think about installing sprinkler system in the garage above the cars?
    dry ice or liquid nitrogen to cool the battery?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Dry Ice / Liquid nitrogen isn't great due to the specific heat capacity. A sprinkler would help keep a fire in check but won't extinguish a battery fire.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Před 5 měsíci

      In general, sprinkler systems will delay the spread of a fire until the professionals arrive.

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 Před 5 měsíci +2

      How about we just keep driving ICE vehicles and stop pretending to make up ideas to be safe with EV's..

  • @anthonyvalenti9093
    @anthonyvalenti9093 Před 5 měsíci +2

    So, it sounds like buyers of electric vehicles need to pass a test prior to the purchase. Otherwise, no auto or homeowner’s insurance.
    Might consider a hazmat suit also?. Maybe, become a paramedic? Watch when your neighbor sues you for owning an EV.
    ICE anyone?

  •  Před 5 měsíci

    If the Cobra cutting lance can work on Lithium batteries.
    Why aren't cars and Lithium power storage systems like this designed with water cooling built into the battery packs to cool battery partitions by flooding with water if high temperatures are sensed?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci

      Packs do have a thermal management system that uses glycol. Thermal runaway will quickly overwhelm the system.

    •  Před 5 měsíci

      @StacheDTraining
      Yes, but if you could connect one of your hoses directly to the battery pack flooding it in a fire, would that not be a good thing?

  • @nv1493
    @nv1493 Před 5 měsíci

    I'm betting insurance companies are already figuring out non payment exclusions related to EVs.

  • @dereknicol5284
    @dereknicol5284 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Neither of the two Tesla fires were started by the vehicle.

  • @darrellkovecsi5205
    @darrellkovecsi5205 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Buyers need to check your Warranty before buying EV.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 Před 5 měsíci

    exxon valdez battery spill...remember how much that costed?

  • @brokencactus9854
    @brokencactus9854 Před 5 měsíci +1

    4:58 - excellent insight. So many people are blaming the cars for “spontaneously” catching fire when it’s actually ignorant owners using underrated electrical connections and cables. Kinda like blaming gas cars for catching fire when people are smoking at the gas pump.

  • @OtisFlint
    @OtisFlint Před 5 měsíci

    So of these 3 examples, one was a known defective car, and the other two were bad wiring unrelated to the car. If charging, you have continuous draw, which means you should only run 80% of the capacity of the circuit. I hardwired a 48A charger on a 60A circuit. Very simple.

  • @cvrart
    @cvrart Před 5 měsíci

    Now, imagine if the transition to EV's is very successful, and you have a condo building with dozens or even hundreds of EV's in an underground parking garage. A fire in one EV could quickly spread to others nearby and create a fire that could be virtually impossible for firefighters to put out - there wouldn't be enough EV fire blankets on hand, and it would probably even be impossible and deadly to try to go into the fire. There wouldn't be enough water to have any impact on the intensity of a fire involving dozens or more EV's. The only option would be to evacuate the building and surrounding buildings and let it burn down - most likely, the intense heat of the fire in the parking garage would cause structural failure in the supports of the building, leading to a structural collapse, similar to what happened to the Champlain Towers South building in Florida. But, I guess we'll wait for this kind of tragedy to happen first before we put the brakes on the EV transition.

  • @basbass429
    @basbass429 Před 5 měsíci

    I really do not understand how people can use cheap no-name extension cords that sometimes even have a lower power rating than the fuse behind the outlet. Duh that will burn. My extension cords, i use many, never any of those got warm on high load. But i make sure the capacity is correct and check regularly for damage. And replace them when they get really old (rubber/plastic degrades over time).

    • @BriBCG
      @BriBCG Před 5 měsíci

      Extension cords that can't handle the full capability of the rest of the system and don't even have a fuse to prevent overheating shouldn't be legal. So many people buy them because they're the cheaper option without understanding the risks. Instead the solution has been to plaster warnings 'do not use this device with an extension cord' over everything instead of actually fixing the root problem.

  • @maszkalman3676
    @maszkalman3676 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you my left ear enjoyed this video 🤣

  • @tjmmcd1
    @tjmmcd1 Před 5 měsíci

    If it hasn't already happened, you can bet insurance companies soon won't provide coverage if tow companies retrieve a burned EV or maybe even ALL EV's due to the risk of spontaneous fires. Same goes with junkyards and storage facilities. Not only will the have to isolate junked EV's due to possible spontaneous combustion, the batteries are consider toxic, hazardous waste and have highly-expensive, intricate EPA disposal requirements. No junkyard will want any EV's.

  • @jeffmagers7182
    @jeffmagers7182 Před 5 měsíci

    when was the last time a battery pipeline leaked into a river?

    • @rburns9730
      @rburns9730 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That all happens in Africa to people you don't care about so it's all good.

  • @annettewheeler8268
    @annettewheeler8268 Před 5 měsíci

    👍

  • @David-135
    @David-135 Před 5 měsíci

    They’re safe when it’s cold!

  • @134alexander
    @134alexander Před 5 měsíci +3

    A very good argument for having an extremely detached garage especially if your going to join the EV fad.

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 5 měsíci

    In these cases, the Teslas weren't directly entirely responsible for the fires, but philosophers could debate the precise allocation of blame. If a vehicle type (Ev) with a particular technology, (Li ion batteries) requires charging devices that are badly implemented, where can cause be allocated?

  • @jaba430
    @jaba430 Před 5 měsíci

    The vehicle on the tilt tray truck was a Hyundai Tucson I think, not the original Jag. Or were they both EV's?

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci

      There were two vehicles involved in the Colorado incident. I only focused on the I-pace due to the known battery issue.

  • @MyersRacingMXC
    @MyersRacingMXC Před 5 měsíci

    Oh man.. I know you didn't show the Tesla cabin fire reflection video at the end like it was real.. 😅

  • @nevillemills9517
    @nevillemills9517 Před 5 měsíci +1

    No don't take it to a salvage yard, take it straight back to where you bought it or to the car maker and tell them to deal with it and you want to be paid for the damages. After all they have damaged your property and sold you a faulty product. PUSH BACK PEOPLE!!! THATS THE ONLY WAY YOU ARE GOING TO TURN THIS SHIT AROUND.

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci

    I wish CZcamsrs also included what mic or camera they use when errors like this happens.

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Turns out there was an error in the editing stage.

    • @CMDRSweeper
      @CMDRSweeper Před 5 měsíci +1

      When you get an error like this, only audio on the left side, it is usually because microphones are mono and the video is stereo.
      So the CZcamsrs have to copy the mono track into both left and right of the stereo channel, failing that it goes mono on CZcams.
      Just wish CZcams would have had a fix to force that mono channel to stereo per video.

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci

      thanks gents!

  • @althunder4269
    @althunder4269 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Lesson: Don't buy an EV.

  • @gravesclayton3604
    @gravesclayton3604 Před 5 měsíci

    About 6 months an 'extended range' Mercedes EV sedan lit itself ablaze inside a garage and burned the home out. It was not being charged, as it had only just arrived that afternoon as a 'courtesy' substitute for the homeowner's EV that was off being serviced at the dealership. It was in the garage overnight, not being charged, before igniting itself, causing over $1M damage to the home.
    czcams.com/video/SIpXkQhq1ps/video.html

  • @Roddy451
    @Roddy451 Před 5 měsíci +9

    This channel can potentially become a powerful resource for fire/EV safety. There are a lot of EV car fan channels out there, but many hesitate to address the safety/ danger factors. When they do, most try to downplay it or shift the blame. Safety rules are written in blood, as we say in the industry I am part of.
    My next car will likely be an EV, and I've made this channel and John Cadogan's two of my sources of information in making my decisions on a path forward.

    • @2217Video
      @2217Video Před 5 měsíci +3

      Are you crazy? Why on earth would you want such a bad piece of technology???

    • @andersonomo597
      @andersonomo597 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Why on earth would you buy a EV!! They're expensive, totally impractical, NOT 'green' in the slightest, their value tanks like a rock off a cliff. You'd have to be nuts to buy one.

  • @Allangulon
    @Allangulon Před 5 měsíci +1

    Garage fire proofing might soon be big business.

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Před 5 měsíci

      A great example of why a wall that's common to the garage and the living space needs to be fire rated (including the door).

    • @hobo1704
      @hobo1704 Před 5 měsíci

      You do realise how hot those battery fires are?..

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent Před 5 měsíci

      With automatic closing air tight hatches, rotary warning lights, Klaxon alarm and a robotic voice instructing the garage owner:
      'You have 15 seconds to evacuate your garage before hatches are sealed. Please follow the arrows to exit the premises. Have a nice day"

    • @ghost307
      @ghost307 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@pbxn-3rdx-85percent I have been in quite a few computer rooms with that exact same warning.
      They also have a spring loaded button at the door to keep the fire suppression gas from discharging for as long as it is depressed to allow those few extra seconds for people on the far side of the room to get to the door.
      Once the gas is released...you definitely don't want to be in there.

  • @CosmicSeeker69
    @CosmicSeeker69 Před 5 měsíci +2

    re the iPace JLR - on life support. I'm in the You Kay and their Social Media adverts have been reduced so showing pictures of a very attractive woman. The comments section is packed with complains about A) the management attitude. B) total lack of spare parts (One guy had his 'Range off the road 28 weeks in four years) and insurance is now IMPOSSIBLE for late cars. The underwriter is only doing 30 day contracts - which is a first here...and depreciation.. 🤦‍♂ Thing is: JLR today - which car company next??? The UN / WEF sure thought this one through well (and I was always told that lithium fires create their own oxygen though the chemical reaction in runaway?)

    • @fluxington
      @fluxington Před 5 měsíci

      Why write the UK as the You Kay? Did you use voice to text to write this comment or am I missing something?

    • @ianrobertson3419
      @ianrobertson3419 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@fluxington Sounds like a babbling bot that's malfunctioned.

  • @Eduardo_Espinoza
    @Eduardo_Espinoza Před 5 měsíci

    my smartphone would not even charge if it is cool
    XD!

  • @chrissmith2114
    @chrissmith2114 Před 5 měsíci

    Just as I suspected in the Michigan fire, EV owners do not understand electricity....

  • @claytomgraham4680
    @claytomgraham4680 Před 5 měsíci

    Nothing is mentioned about containing the contamination water that was put on the ev

    • @StacheDTraining
      @StacheDTraining  Před 5 měsíci

      At this point, the studies say that water contamination is not an issue.

    • @claytomgraham4680
      @claytomgraham4680 Před 5 měsíci

      @@StacheDTraining hi I wish I could send the article I read where they talked about the contamination from the water that was used to put the fire out if I find it I will send it to you ,thanks for reading my message

  • @Nolegu
    @Nolegu Před 5 měsíci

    They're capable of heating itself up in 5 minutes, idiots that uses an external heater will fry the batteries leading to this.