Fairphone just kicked the industry's a**!
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This week the Fairphone 5 launched with a 5 year warranty and an 8-10 year software support promise, the Lenovo Legion Go handheld gaming device impressed me and Google killed its Pixel Pass subscription.
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0:00 Intro
0:21 The Brief
3:19 Fairphone 5 rocks
6:28 Lenovo Legion Go impresses
8:05 Google kills another service - Věda a technologie
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Friday chillout 2nd season when?
As this segment grows, you could have a friday check-in and a sunday checkout?
U should create a 2nd channel called the long 😂
It always boggles the mind that Google, an *advertising company* , has no idea how to advertise its own products, its genuinely bizarre
Google isn't an advertising company, it's an Internet search, AI and software company. They sell our data to advertisers, not do the advertising themselves. It baffles me how many people actually think Google are the advertisers. So you calling them an advertising company (and having 22 people agree) is even more bizarre
Well, they are more of an ad space broker than a creative agency
They provide the ad space. They are bad at ads.
Them killing off the product withing the first cycle to me seems more like Google didn't want too many people to know about it. It probably was more of a pilot project, keeping the hype down and seeing how it goes.
I guess they weren't that impressed with the potential numbers so they snuffed it out before it became to big of a deal. Makes sense really. If you wanna test something out, its better to keep the audience small.
Google definetly has the resources to market it if they really wanted to.
If you sell land that doesn't mean you're a good architect
I'm all for "the long"
That’s what she said
@Rationalizer-cp3ml too bad mine is short :(
@@PrimePixelCZcams mine is pretty long but being stupid I never used it for 9 years of relationship and got cheated now😊
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@@Rationalizer-cp3ml you beat me to it bro 😂😂
I really love this. I know no tech youtuber which dives into the economics of smartphones. I am also impressed by the smartphone. I as a "patriotic European" really hope that Fairphone becomes slowly successful, because after the decline of HMD global, Fairphone is the only one left.
CZcams glitched my comment out. Basically, I think Europe has a chance to make high end chips, it just needs to invest tons of money. The other big problem is that Europe has no consumers for high end chips. For low - mid end chips, where Europe has a high demand for (cars), the industry is strong. The EU needs to first create companies which use the chips, like fairphone. There is no point investing into TSMC, Infineon, Bosch etc.. without creating companies which need the chips
@@jakobneufeld8730 So shift isnt a phone for you then or did you never heard about this company?
Why Fairfone should be taken over the market? By showing of a fone without a headphone jack with a ludicrous announcement why they deleted it? Sorry, this is absolutely marketing BS for the death of the 3,5mm. This is not the real reason. Also , why not make it water resistant and why must it be that big?
HMD seems to be trying with the new repairable budget Nokias but update support is pretty meh nowadays.
Almost everything about Fairphone sounds great, the only thing that holds me back is the camera. The camera is upgradeable, but Fairphone don't sell any upgrades (only recplacements). Hopefully that will start happening.
Europe? You mean Europistan?
It's wild how companies arbitrarily declare perfectly capable hardware 'obsolete', I think we need at minimum 7 years of software updates across the BOARD. It's wild man
They tricked us into treating phones like appliances rather than the general compute devices they are-similar to a laptop. No root/admin for you. No custom OS for you. No keeping the device for running for you.
Security updates is all we need. Software updates can give them an excuse or to show 2 years old hardware is slow already.
People who want latest features may need to buy new phone, but they are the minority.
Its also the fault of android design and the fact that every company makes effectivly their own android.
So instead of Google providing updates like is the case with Windows its the manufacturers that do so
@@KrolPawi manufactures are capable of providing Linux drivers - Intel, NVIDIA, AMD.
By comparison check postmarketOS supported devices, not much.
I am still using my Note II, but plan to update soon because it’s running Android 4.2.1 and WhatsApp is planning to drop support for Android 4 this year. It’s kinda crazy that a flagship phone from 2012 hasn’t received an update for an OS released in 2014. Apparently, Samsung considered it obsolete less than two years after its release.
Fairphone is basically a major contender now in my opinion. It's been doing for so long what Framework is doing in laptops now. It's amazing.
They need to sell in usa
Major contender? Only sells in Europe, and the casual user hasn't ever heard of it. I live in Europe and this is the first time I've heard of the company/phone. It's a niche product at best.
It's also just as ugly as the Framework laptop!
Jokes aside, I like their design ethos, but they really need to work on the design of their phones.
If they would just sell a higher version of their cameras , I would buy it immediately
It's not even close apart from Warranty and even that might not be that relevant, and we will have to see how good that keeps going as well.
A huge percentage of people change phones every year. The next largest will change every 2-3 years. By the time you get to 5 years, where Google ans Samsung already are for software support, the amount of people who care about having the same phone will be tiny. Warranty will be cool for those going second hand at this point, but for an insanely small number of people relative to how many are out there who actually buy Fairphones new.
And in the end, the phone is just not good even right now. It's cool it will be both supported with warranty and software around 5 years from now, but owning one could be a painful experience depending on what happens. Or it might be a passable experience, it's impossible to know until it's years too late to have found out.
With less and less people buying new smartphones, replacable SOCs kind of make sense from Qualcomm's perspective, as it might increase their sales. I could see people swapping their 100-200$ chips over swapping their 800$ smartphones.
Fairphone finally has an OLED screen. I can consider buying from them now.
I'm happy to see Fairphone doing so well!
If only all was great, They were caught scamming and being shotty to customers
@@harriet-x.xI know everyone hates when you ask for a source instead of taking them at face value, but I can't find a source on that. Source?
It's still an overpriced ugly phone with awful specs. It'll be chugging slowly along with like Android 24
@@orionarclight overpriced? false
ugly? subjective
awful specs? not really
android 24? also wrong
damn you haters just love being wrong asf
@@sir_whocampsalot2876
It's $750 for a mid-range spec phone... you can get flagship specs for that much
Fairphone 5 is better but 4 and before look like $200 Samsung or generic android devices.
Awful specs for the price.
Android 24 assuming 10 years of OS updates but it's 5 so Android 17 ig
Probably be easier for Fairphone to do what Framework did for their laptops and have upgradeable boards with SoC instead of just being able to replace the SoC.
I think we should stop calling them "leaks" at this point, and not just from Google. We know that these are previews to guage market reaction. In fact, I'd like to find a phone that didn't have any leaks in the last 3 years.
Those from small companies haha
It's the same with movies and games. "Leaks" on social media are "more exciting" than press releases. You know it's a real leak when you ave to dig for it (like GTA6 footage)
Fairphone is getting exciting! I'm planning on keeping my OnePlus 6 for a few more years, and if Fairphone keeps improving year over year and sticks with their vision, I think they'll be the easy choice for me when I eventually upgrade.
Oneplus 7 pro gang
I am just gonna put custom Roms on the OnePlus phones lol
@@needtau4138I'd still be part of this gang if my battery didn't go bad, although I think that is my fault.
Keep an eye out for the QCM error. It's the most prone OnePlus phone to experience that. Just because of the fear of this, I had to upgrade.
@@bhushandoiphode What did you upgrade to?
I would like to see upgradable fairphones. I think it can make it even more long lasting.
FairPhone removed their headphone jack under the nebulous “for sustainability” reason-then started selling earbuds, well known for chewing up batteries, being difficult to repair, require firmware, necessarily leak a Bluetooth fingerprint, etc. If they cared about sustainability, they would encourage folks to get a nice pair of analog IEMs which would last a decade and generally sound better.
I agree, this is shady, but in general, fairphone still does good things.
I also hate the decision to remove the headphone jack.
BUT I'm baffled on the narrative that this has any conversation into the sustainability argument. I have had the same usbc to aux dongle for 5 YEARS (literally 2018). If you can't keep up with your accessories and you constantly buy new things, it's really on you. I have had the same iems on multiple phones for 7 YEARS. Just stop being a consumer 😂
@@artless3438I tried multiple usb-aux adapters and they all broke within days. Same experience for 2 of my friends.
It's sad but you can get a usb c headphone if you hate Bluetooth that much.
Honestly I think they did it as a money grab in order to be able to continue making the best version of a fairphone (bar headphone jack).
Not great, but if (big if) this is what it takes to continue making a fairphone that puts pressure on the rest of the market (through having great publicity, not so much market share), then I see it as a net positive
The shade-segue to ad was priceless! :D
Unfortunately, the Fairphone 5 is missing some important cell bands in the US. Last time I broke my phone, and wanted to try out the fairphone, the lack of important cell bands was a deal-breaker.
LTE bands it's missing:
Band 12 (extremely important for AT&T and T-mobile customers and MVNOs)
Band 13 (extremely important for Verizon customers and MVNOs)
Band 17 (important for AT&T customers and MVNOs)
Band 71 (important for T-mobile customers and MVNOs)
It's missing several more minor cell bands for LTE, and don't get me started on 5g bands...
I really hope Fairphone does well in its home market of Europe because I, a Southeast Asian, hope for longer-lasting smartphones too!
Thing is we can just buy a new one for half the price and better performance because were Southeast Asians. Hahahaha.
Yup that would be the case. This will only be worth it if they make it like a PC where you can also replace the chip inside. By the way the chip inside right now is not even the latest Snapdragon chipset. But the price I can just buy a bloody S23 Ultra for a little bit more. Or just buy a POCO F5 Pro and byt the time we need to replace it we will have a backup phone and another phone with the latest specs. I am glad I am not the only one thinking about this. Lets wait if Fairphone 6 will have this feature. I still cannot process who would replace a screen and speakers that often. Hahahaha. I for one don't even break my screen. Hahahaha.@@xCDF-pt8kj
@@xCDF-pt8kj I'm glad your €200 phones can last you 5 years. The last few phones I've bought are all around that price and they all lasted about a year. I don't really care about specs as long as something lasts.
@@xCDF-pt8kj Well yeah, of course. Daily use entails drops, getting sat on, getting accidentally hit against things, etc.
unbelievable that google can launch a ‘One’ service for their own hardware/services and cancel it before the first cycle is complete. Wow
They killed stadia, google plus , and many more. On the contrary look at Apple. They will rather make fun of themselves than killing the products or services. IPhone se newer edition is the prime example.
I had been putting off getting a fair phone because I felt it needed some more development. They've reached that point now, next time I need a new phone I'm getting one without even looking at other phones (unless other companies are starting to follow them).
I’d like to see them make a foldable, are they too small to R&D it?
I thought the same, and reached that point of a new phone now. my current one (Xperia XZ1) needed the custom ROM route after Sony dropped the Security Updates 2 years in, and it just had that one random reboot too much for me, so I ordered today
The new Fairphone looks nice. I went with a Pixel 7 though last year due to the 5 years of security updates. So provided Fairphone are still making good devices in 4 years time. I will definitely consider it.
Yeah, I need to see that they will be around and only google, Samsung, and apple are consistently making phones.
I think they should go for a balance of price and longevity to not make it so ridiculous.
By 5 years your processor will be tpo slow anyways.
@@makisekurisu4674my snapdragon 845 is still feeling fine for browsing and app usage, I don't see it not being adequate for an other 3 years or so but my phones charging port and casing is falling apart and can't be arsed to constantly fix them
@@makisekurisu4674But I really like the idea of swappable processors, maybe by that time they are out.
@@makisekurisu4674 my OnePlus 6T works fine, Qualcomm Snapdragon 845 (SDM845) announced on December 5, 2017.
Usually limiting factor is RAM, Fairphone 5 has 8GB, it should be enough for a while.
A good approach Fairphone can do is make a standardized motherboard. Like all the Fairphone would have identical motherboard layout. All the screw holes are in the same location, all the connection ports are on the same place and other stuff. Basically like how every motherboard on all desktop looks exactly the same but have different chipset and component.
This way, you can buy a Fairphone now and basically swap out the motherboard when you want to upgrade the specs. That way you don't have to pay for a whole new phone whenever you want to upgrade.
+1 !!!
That's not their business model.
They want to virtue signal the advertising and make you think you'll be happy with a garbage spec phone after 7 years.
This is the true flagship experience, I use my budget/mid-range phones for 4-5 years, so I'd definitely want a flagship to last me at least 8-10 years.
Edit: If only this was a worldwide release, outside of the US/UK.
They don't sell just to the US and UK though, but most of Europe I believe. The company is Dutch in fact
@@chlorophyllphile oh that's good to know, hopefully they soon expand to the Asian market as well. While it is a lot more competitive of a smartphone market than, say, USA, there are quite a lot of people here who would want to repair their own stuff if they could rather than taking it to a technician, especially because Nokia was the biggest brand for a long time here and that company's phones were known for their durability/modularity.
@@octopusdreams Unless you care about things like avoiding child labor, the environment, reparability, and longer warranty and software support. To some people it makes perfect sense to pay a premium for those things.
@@octopusdreams Most people initially look from that angle, and many people call this phone stupid as a result. Glad you can see the value of it :)
@@octopusdreams bro you can't really do anything in any flagship smartphone that utilizes all of it's processing power, that's because you just don't have that much demanding apps on Android (like, we don't have professional grade photo/video editing softwares on Android), all smartphones today are heavily CPU-bound. Unless you are buying it for high-end, high fps gaming, you don't need to have a flagship phone to have a great and highly usable experience on a smartphone anymore, that used to be the case about 7-10 years ago but not anymore.
But does this "fairphone" have a headphone jack and a microsd card?
MicroSD yes, headphone jack no. The Sony Xperia 5 V has both if you want both
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M that's not how sustainability works. You understand that there are dongles you can use to plug in your headphones and to use sd card. They are not CONVENIENT.
Fairphone uses many legitimate sustainable practices including fair trade, modular parts and recycled material. The conventional phone production pipeline is really wasteful and uses a lot of harmful practices.
Just stop buying new things and keep up with your old ones. Sony is not more sustainable than fair phone grow up.
Galaxy Xcover 6 Pro has a headphone jack, microsd card, and removable battery.
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Name literally any other phone that has a headphone jack, microsd reader, and removable battery that has a modern CPU and 5G.
You can't, it's literally the only phone on the market that has all of those things. Period.
And I wish it wasn't the only phone with all of those things. If the Fairphone 5 just simply had a headphone jack, people would have a choice of two.
@@Knowbody42 I use Xcover 5 right now.
3:52 Just a small correction. FP4 had two variants, 256GB + 8GB RAM and 128GB + 6GB RAM. FP5 has only the 256GB + 8GB RAM variant. So it's not really an upgrade.
The Fairphone could be decent with the Google Camera but personally there's just too many better used phones out there that's it's a tough sell even with 10 years of security updates. But props to them for working with Qualcomm. Hoping that modular SoC becomes a reality.
Google: I made this new service
Also Google: I hate this!
“They love each other” ❤❤😂
The chapters are off, i.e. the Fairphone story starts at 3:20 while the chapter is set at 2:39
Just fixed it. Thanks! :)
Thank you Marton, I like this 'longer' Checkout. Great content of stuff I never see anywhere else.
Fairphone removed the headphone jack, though. True, they did that with the Fairphone 4, but they didn’t put it back on the Fairphone 5. Massive blunder
@@blue-lu3izbecause the manufacturers removed the jack to sell you matching wireless headphones… consumers hardly were given a choice when the corporate interest for profiting on a bundle took away our choice to have the port.
With Zenfones removing the ability to unlock. Xperia is the only flagship left at this point worth looking at.
@@blue-lu3iz Lots of people (including myself and others I’ve seen) still use them, and I’m sure more people would use them still if their phones had a headphone jack. The dongle also isn’t an ideal solution, since you cannot charge the device while using it.
@@ThePC007 how often do you really have to charge your device while using headphones lmao, its a non argument. maybe get a phone with a real battery that lasts or with fast charging OR BOTH instead of having to worry so much about the next time you'd have to charge the damn thing lmao
imagine having headphones or buds with wires lmao big L
@@sir_whocampsalot2876I literally do this every day. There's no reason you should have to choose. At bare minimum we should at least have 2 USB-C ports so we don't have to share ports, but an audio jack would be less expensive than USB-C.
After Fairphone released their original bluetooth headphones and earbuds, I was no longer sure whether they cared about the environment or just the image of such. I'm happy to see they are continuing to improve on their products over the years, including the headphone division, just I would keep their bluetooth earbuds in mind when praising their environmental standards.
Yep.
I mean the headphones are at least repairable as ever, even if they don't sound that good. Earpods on the other hand I simply consider a miss until there's some major breakthrough in making them more repairable.
You might be surprised
@@Alias_Anybodyanalog doesn’t require batteries or firmware updates. That is more sustainable.
If you hate Bluetooth that much you can get a usb c headphone
Haha, that google burn at the end made me lol. As always - Top quality video!
Those transitions to ads during the show is just on another level. Well made!
No headphones jack, not fair Fairphone, no buy
Samsung Xcover 6 Pro has a headphone jack, and so does the Nokia G42
I would love to see new camera modules for fairphone with better sensor and lenses which would be very similar to what framework is doing with their laptops. If they start working for upgradability i will be all about Fairphone. The upgradable chipset is a nudge in that direction.
This is what LG said about their rumours of shutting down too.
2 days later... RIP
7:48 "huge 1080p screen" means pixels will be like lego-block size? 😂
I read the datasheet for the qcm6490 and it also stated that the chip was also meant for automotive and embedded use. So it may be possible to get an RTOS such as nucleus, qnx, vxworks, rtlinux or something else running on it too.
Fairphone shouldn't be releasing new versions of the device, it exhibits uncertainty. They should pick a design and stick to it like what Framework has done.
To be fair, with each new design the phones are getting more and more modular/repairable. The FP4 had the rear camera module include both rear cameras and the sensor as one whole piece. Now the FP5 has a separate module for both rear cameras and the sensor.
But still I see your point, both phones are the same size but have different size screens. I’m surprised they don’t have compatible back covers, usb ports or protective cases. Sure the ports have a different watt rating, but it’d be cool to put the FP4’s 20 watt port in the FP5’s 30 watt slot even if it’s slower.
Totally forgot to mention, at the moment, it simply isn’t viable to easily swap the cpu on a phone’s motherboard, at least not at the moment. Fairphone is trying to collaborate with Qualcomm to make a phone-sized motherboard that can swap its cpu more like a PC can. Maybe it’ll go somewhere, maybe not, still exciting to hear about.
I would be interested in a Fairphone, but I am still unhappy with the "courageous" choice to not include a headphone jack and to start selling wireless headphone buds. Wired headphones without a battery are better for the environment, and older Fairphone devices had a jack. So clearly the company does not actually care about the environment or suitability and are just green washing there product to capture a niche market with a markup. When manufacturers decided to remove the jack, I made it point to not buy a phone without one.
its really upsetting because I would love one, but I am not willing to budge on this point.
I don’t agree with them getting rid of the jack, but really, what other smartphone company has been anywhere near as dedicated to giving workers fair wages, having fair working conditions (no slave nor child labor as well), recycling e-waste, using renewable energy and crafting a phone that supports self-repair practices?
I'm really confused about the obsession with headphones jacks. I've been using the same wired USB-C headphones for 4 years, before I had my Fairphone. Audio jacks are just bad. They detach accidentally easily, or they can plug in partially and cause distortion in the sound. USB-C is just better.
I like using headphones and charging my phone at the same time, also USB-C audio is a joke, you can run into compatibility problems between "active" & "inactive" headphones and adapters. And now you have a likely shitty DAC within your headphones/adapter. Instead of the likely much better DAC within the device. I have never had a problem with it detaching by accident so that is non issue. USB-C headphones are a pure downgrade.
Instead of having to pick, what if consumers had options? I think your USB-C headphones and Bluetooth should also be supported and that there is zero reason why you can't have a USB-C port and a headphone jack.
I love your videos man! Keep up the good work! Have you ever thought of uploading podcasts to go together with your yt videos?
I have been waiting for this! Gotta get this next year.
Really happy this year with the fair brand. The Fairbuds look sooo good
you could have somewhat infinite lifetime if also the chipset was standard and possible to replace. I'd also like to see updates in other parts so that you could buy a better camera for example.
6:00 I guess replacing the Soc would work like replacing the main board like on Framework, It would take the storage, Ram etc and probably be a very expensive upgrade but It'll still preserve the Chassis, Battery etc
Hopefully the option of swapping out cameras could come?
I'd love to get that phone with SFOS, wonder if it is still supported.
Fairphone is fair to everything except my bank account.
Great to see the Fairphone review! The new long-support chipset sounds quite interesting
I am switching to fairphone, I have been waiting for this for 6 months!
I love the idea of replacable chips for phones. I still have my S8+ which I love for the form factor and I would LOVE to be able to upgrade it. I know it may not be as thin if it had a replacable APU, but it could still be as slick as ever.
Fairphone is looking like my next phone, just wish they had the audio jack for plugging in speakers.
I think it’s ironic that there is a new Fairphone instead of new parts for the Fairphone 1.
My main problem with fairphone is how they only target consumers willing to spend a lot of money.
It was pretty evident when they launched a smartphone "by subscription", where in every scenario it would be more expensive than just buying the smartphone, with no benefits in return. They literrally marketed it by explaining that by making you pay more for the same thing, you would care more about your smartphone...
Also, according to them, they have no plan on proposing cheaper models, only more expensive ones.
As someone who spent 200€ on his new smartphone every 5 or 7 years, I am not their target. So even with 10 years of support, a fairphone is still massively expensive.
I would prefer to buy a European smartphone, even if it was slightly more expensive, but as long as Fairphone keep to their politic of not wanting to dip into the market of custumers who just want to call, send a few sms, and maybe use a GPS, it won't be one of their products.
2:25 Google said Stadia would not shut down
Might get my hands on a Fairphone
You could make an SOC modular but does it make sense? Would you want new ram? What pieces make sense to bundle together for function repair an reliability? Modular ram for different cost/use might be one big option over SOC. DAC.
I wish they sell it worldwide
Easily reparable or upgraded with easily found material means it's easily built, means less stress for everyone, builder, and consumer, and quality
I would love it, if you'd put all the sources in the description in following videos
I did buy the previous fairphone but returned it because it was too bulky, I will consider them again next if they have equivalent support and importantly sandboxing for google services in their OS to grapheneOS (or there's a compatible AOSP project that does, there was not last time), because while I fortunately don't need many play store apps, you never know. Security updates for the pixel 6a end in 2027, so there may be a new fairphone by then.
Upgradeable SoCs are going to make the phones thicker, personally, the selling points of the Fairphone far outweigh the lack of sleekness.
@@protocetid I don't need it to be that sleek or that powerful, but I do want it to be comfortable in my hand, I had the s9 before, and nothing quite seems to compare...
If they relese separate battery chargers for fairphone I might actually get it. Never had a flagship that I don't have to constantly charge with my very high usage(no gaming) so going back to separate battery sounds pretty good
what I want on android side:
- iphone 13 mini sized phone with flagship camera
- at least 5 years of security updates
- vanilla android
-replaceable battery
I'm still using a low-middle end smartphone from 2016. I might need an upgrade 😅. The new Fairphone 5 seems very compelling
Fuck if I can socket in a new soc on my smartphone I'll be happy with my current one for a long ass time
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M does every single generation of cpus have a different socket? Sure they'd have to stop using bga (soldering the cpu into the socket) which is super unrealistic for how many sales they'd make
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M yeah I kudt looked it up and apparently most of qualcomms chips are only pin compatible in the same generation. Bummer..
TCL also made several of the Tmobile branded phones. Some pretty compelling mid range price to performance sort of options.
I was about to purchase the Fairphone 5 then a couple of things stopped me, would the company remain in business for the life of the product and provide the spare parts and upgrades as advertised. Or will it go the same way as the Fitbit watch and become incorporated into another company.
I recently took a selfie with 14 pro max and it was so tough to hold sideways. It was heavy and huge! It'd be great if an ultra comes into a smaller form factor.
This was the best Ad Brillianti have ever seen!
ahaha what a transition to Brilliant integration, nagyon jo Marton!
3:58 huh, 1/56" sensor!?!?!?!? That is way too tiny. (I know it's a typo, it supposed to be 1/1.56" ; larger than 1/2", true)
No charger in box, no headphone jack. They are just like any other company who don't listen to customers. I would rather buy a used redmi 10 pro for $150 and install custom rom on it. It has ir blaster, headphone jack, sd card slot, nice set of camera, 5000 mah battery
Forgot to mention some stuff, a used unit of fairphone 3 in Porttugal europe is costing 500€, you can get an s22 for 300€.... so not a great idea, and its not easy to find parts, great concept and should be sold as a concept but now a real product...
Chapters are inaccurate even after being "fixed"
Intersting that you might soon be able to swop out a phone's cpu.
I have an iphone 13, had to get it as needed two sims... plan on using it till it is bricked... once done, will be getting a Fairphone for sure as long as they do a dual sim version , hopefully by then it will be.
That ZENFONE NEWS IS REALLY GOOD 🔥
What headphones are those? 6:06 I made a design similar to this...
Our family are gradually replacing our phones with Fairphone 4's, have had to replace a screen already and we have a couple of spare batteries... They are expensive, but you can now LEASE the phone for 3 years for $18 USD a month directly from Fairphone.. and when the lease is up they recondition it, scrub the data and send it on to someone else...
Using amoled and removing the headphone jack assured them of steady sales of phone displays and bt headphones.
About the OS, FP explicitly says: " We plan at least 5 Android OS version updates after Android 13". I am not sure if the word "planning" is commitment or intention, to be honest.
Their first Qualcomm phone, released in 2015 with Android 5 received Android 10 in 2022.
Android 7 was already an unsupported version that they had to grind out themselves.
This SoC is an industrial/enterprise grade chipset, Qualcomm provides the official firmware support, no homework and hacking needed.
@@zsoltontube I hope during this time FP will keep on improve cameras. I hope the cameras already fine, although I don't expect to be quite decent.
A smartphone manufacturer that values REPAIRABILITY and LONGEVITY of its products? Hell year we users LOVE it!
The remaining question is how the EXPERIENCE is. Softwares, cameras, among other things might need to be checked. We'll see.
I really dislike my iPhone 12 and iOS in general but like long-term software support. In that regard it's encouraging that it's at least one Android phone that that could maybe even surpass Apple when it comes to software support.
Over hyped. Wait until your iphone reaches 5 years of life and there will be no such company as fairphone.
Well they supported Fairphone 2 for seven years. I wouldn’t be worried over software support as they’ve kind of proved their commintment but rather are buyers willing to live that long with middling specs.
@@GauravMishra9200 The iPhone 8 is currently 6 years old and is still receiving updates, though I assume its time in the sun is slowly coming to an end.
@@ThePC007no its not receiving updates Stop Misleading
@@pirateluffy01 Mine is and is currently running iOS 16.6, which is the latest version. If yours isn’t then something’s strange. Do you get some error message when you go into Settings → General → Software Update and does it just tell you that you’re up to date, despite running a version that is older than 16.6?
With a Snapdragon 7+Gen 2 or Dimensity 8200, the price would have been a little justified.
But above all, it is ridiculous for an "eco-friendly" company not to have a Jack plug, but especially to sell TWS.
It's looking like the Huawei phone is actually just using a Taiwan manufactured Kirin 9000 chip acquired prior to the chip sanctions in 2020 (with updated firmware), and not a "new" chip developed and manufactured in China. The low-key rollout and limited supply is consistent with this possibility. It's also possible that they were able to make about 15 years of chip-making progress in just the last 2-1/2 years, but I find that to be doubtful.
Framework laptop and fairphone will they have an ecosystem based on this type of business model?
Fairphone + Motorola/Cloud Windows - PC re-imagined, brrr
Bruh 😂 you didn't notice the huawei 3 dot notch 😂🤦 reminded me of the 3 pin magnetic charger
Wish it was available in the US...
I would get the Legion Go just to use the controller with the mouse attachment. I've been looking for a gun grip style mouse but the only available ones are junk
Hmm "sacrificial apps". This could become Google tradition as an annual contest for a winning app to be "killed-off". Yes there would be rules like having to be a "virgin". Some of the criteria's would be, having a "shelf- life" equal to or greater than Stidia... or Stadba?, and bordering on being usable, then sent off too "IP limbo".
Huawei new phone has their own chips, OS, and able to do satellite call. Awesome.
Great review
I would gladly buy the fairphone if it had the headphone jack
Fairphone just got really interesting.... may be my next one
I didnt see a lenovo booth. Is it just for press?
6:10 socketable / modular SOCs is idiotic and would be nothing but a marketing stunt.
Tons of added cost and complexity, for a part that isn't even going to fail.
Sure, you can now replace just the motherboard, but at what cost? and what of the many failures where the motherboard fails and consequently fries the chip?
I don’t think the issue is that the chip could fail, the issue is that the chip might not have enough processing power or won’t be supported for future software at some point. If Fairphone had a choice, the FP4 would get an even greater amount of software updates than what has been promised.
@@notisac3149 you'd have to maintain identical pinouts across >5 years for this to be both possible and make any sense, which doesn't even happen on the PC side, much less for smartphones.
calling "gimmicky" that vertical joystick fps functionality in the legion pro is such an undestatement
Fairphone 5 also has a microsd slot and supports cards up to 2tb
If fair phone manage to make a phone with a replaceable soc then I will buy one in a heart beat for sure. That's the main upgrade needed in a phone. I hope they find a way to do this with Qualcomm my favourite chip maker
the only way the Fairphone 5 will kick the industry’s ass is if it actually sells well
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