If im correct. It sounds like an Embrarer 135 140 145 from American Eagle with the pilot saying the flight no 4421. I was an employee for the company around then but at LGA. All of the flights had 4 digit numbers starting with 4.
I'm so impressed by technology here, the fact they manage to fly a plane around and into new York with zero visibility and have no worries about hitting buildings...
@@lcfflc3887 RADAR is not what enables this. It's a combination of VOR (VHF Omni-Direction Range) radio beacons and/or GPS that permit the plane to fly a standard terminal approach -- a surveyed route that ensures terrain and obstacle clearance -- that intercepts the ILS (instrument landing system) glideslope. The ILS uses some fancy radio frequency tricks to provide vertical and horizontal guidance all the way to the runway. At no point is RADAR involved, and planes lacking RADAR can and do fly ILS approaches. As for traffic separation, that's courtesy of the plane's own Mode C transponder which transmits position and altitude information to ATC's "radar" system.
@@dwaynesykes694 uhhh you see you got it all wrong, when I say radar it means even so the pilots can't see were other airplanes are the controller at the tower can, making sure they do not collide with other airplanes, as for the ILS guidance system well yeah that's is just to aline you with the runway and to get to the runway, that's what you do in and IFR situation you use the ILS system to navigate in to the airport and the runway, it's all on your nav screen display without looking at the airport at all through the windows, as for not crashing in to buildings like the poster asked, well they aren't actually flying through the buildings, only on final approach you'll actually get that low to the ground, plus onboard airliners you have Anti collision proximity alert that warns you of anything in front of you that you aren't going to be able to fly over it, like a mountain and it also works for anything else like big tall buildings, terrain mapping on display is also available.
Cat I has 200ft minima while Cat II has 100ft minima. Cat II needs a better approach lighting system than what 31R has. you can check the approach plates here: flightaware.com/resources/airport/KJFK/procedures
I hate flying in and even above snowstorms, they get so bad on the east coast and are always bumpy. No avoiding them unfortunately during the holidays but lately have lucked out, no snow during Christmas at least.
When to turn the wipers on, in a heavy precip situation as this was, is a judgement call. Viz was good throughout the landing sequence. On the ground, there's no windstream to deflect the precip away from the windscreen. Ya always gotta get to the gate.
i would've gotten a lil nervous near the end of the rollout (2:30) when i saw all the tire marks heading left and i found myself venturing into that pristine snow, where no plane appears to have gone before :) who am i tryin to fool... i would've been nervous through out the entire approach :) thx for the great video... --Mike
"Where no plane has gone before", hahaha. Good one. BTW, what does one crew member say after system says twice "auto pilot"? I hear the "go to....." part but not the rest, did he say "manual"? Doesn't sound like it.
Great video. Thanks for sharing it with us. It may be routine for you folks but it shows the geese in back what you guys do to earn your pay check. Now, if only you guys could hover.....
@blakman7 nope, from hearing the atc in other videos its a jetblue e190. (based on hearing the same guy's voice from the cockpit) ,you especially hear it in the canarsie app. vid
Well that's NYC for you. When we have big blizzards, we take twice as long as Chicago to clean up because we don't have the proper equipment or slackers. Not to mention the blizzard we had on the last week of 2010
no vision, no vison, no vision, suddenly the landing field appears right in front of them. god blesscthe electronics in that cases. i would have already written my testament ^^
Private pilots are not required. In fact there are limitations too how close to clouds you can fly in VFR. IMC Training is part of the Instrument rating. Its when you get the wear the big dorky hood that keeps you from seeing anything but inside the cockpit.
So the first flight to take off after the airport was shut down was tj4 Emirates 380 to Dubai. I was on that plane...it was insane scene in terminal 4.
@frequentairbusflyer8 actually blakman was correct, in every video once they exit the runway their callsign is clearly "eagle or eagle flight", not jetblue.
Couldn’t make the same exit as everyone else? Just had to make a statement with some fresh ruts in the undisturbed snow, huh? Just teasing. Great vid and landing!
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Wind for example. 31 direction at JFK does not have CAT III or even CAT II. Also 22L/R are not as long as 31R. And anyway with that visibility you don't need CAT III.
A08041988, Eventually the fuel available is going to be unusable and the aircraft is going to come into contact with hard ground again. You can either have it with the engines running and pilots trying to land or you can have it with engines not running and pilots not trying to land.
Could be a lot of reasons. Not sure of the aircraft but pretty sure its an ERJ something. It might not have autoland but it most likely does. If not the ILS would have either kept them in the air or crashed them into the ground... The excessive rain and crosswind probably lead them to believe they would have better control. Also it looks like they flared longer than the autopilot would have. They must have been taking runway condition into account. The autopilot would have slammed it into the ground in those conditions not considering the conditions. They made the right choice I would say. The weather wasn't being random and the wind was consistent throughout. Contrary to popular belief, it is recommended for the pilot to land if the runway is in sight before 200'. If the pilot can't land it at that point because of weather there is no reason to believe the autoland could.
There is not CAT III or even CAT II approach for 31R or 31L. Apart from that the wind does not look that gusty. Most autoland systems land the plane much more consistent than human pilots. It is recommended on some models if you need to land overweight if there are no avionics problems and the pilots are ok with it. The computers doing the autoland can combined with the radio altimeter very precisely control the sink rate and do a very smooth touchdown without floating.
Love it how the approach lights just barely start to peek through the snow as you hear "approaching minimums."
Its like time stands still up there. I've flown many times and that's how it feels slow and time is no matter.
Holy shit I thought the runway ended where the tire tracks went left. Nicely done
Holly crap, what a nice landing
Gotta have nerves of steel not to get nervous landing in near white out conditions! Bravo to the pilots.
excellent job captain and crew in the cockpit
Landing with Slush on the window! NICE! Thanks for sharing!!
Runway lights and minimums called out at same time. Quite thrilling to hear and see, especially if you are flying the bird.
Awesome. Somehow watching videos like this are reducing my fear to fly. In the hands of well trained, experienced professionals.
ExtremelyOCD , at leadt i hope that they are experienced and professionals
well, in the hands of well trained pilots, guess what, you don't always get what you wish for, just needed to be said.
If im correct. It sounds like an Embrarer 135 140 145 from American Eagle with the pilot saying the flight no 4421. I was an employee for the company around then but at LGA. All of the flights had 4 digit numbers starting with 4.
Gnarly. Nothing so satisfying as a well flown instrument approach to minimums.
Great landing considering the conditions. I flew out of JFK for vaction just a day before this storm. So glad I got out on that flight
ah that fresh snow at the end is kinda a mental mess.... cause you think runway is ending.
I'm so impressed by technology here, the fact they manage to fly a plane around and into new York with zero visibility and have no worries about hitting buildings...
is called radar, the ATC has one.
Its called IRS internal Radar system
@@lcfflc3887 RADAR is not what enables this. It's a combination of VOR (VHF Omni-Direction Range) radio beacons and/or GPS that permit the plane to fly a standard terminal approach -- a surveyed route that ensures terrain and obstacle clearance -- that intercepts the ILS (instrument landing system) glideslope. The ILS uses some fancy radio frequency tricks to provide vertical and horizontal guidance all the way to the runway. At no point is RADAR involved, and planes lacking RADAR can and do fly ILS approaches. As for traffic separation, that's courtesy of the plane's own Mode C transponder which transmits position and altitude information to ATC's "radar" system.
@@dwaynesykes694 uhhh you see you got it all wrong, when I say radar it means even so the pilots can't see were other airplanes are the controller at the tower can, making sure they do not collide with other airplanes, as for the ILS guidance system well yeah that's is just to aline you with the runway and to get to the runway, that's what you do in and IFR situation you use the ILS system to navigate in to the airport and the runway, it's all on your nav screen display without looking at the airport at all through the windows, as for not crashing in to buildings like the poster asked, well they aren't actually flying through the buildings, only on final approach you'll actually get that low to the ground, plus onboard airliners you have Anti collision proximity alert that warns you of anything in front of you that you aren't going to be able to fly over it, like a mountain and it also works for anything else like big tall buildings, terrain mapping on display is also available.
I have seen this approach from the ground and there's low altitude turns involved to ilne up with the runway with little room for error.
Where's John McClane? )
unfortunately, he's getting older and older..
Drinking his hot chocolate milk in his sofa !!
Sudo lol
Life is Worth Living recording the next voice for his animated kids movie
God Damn, that's funny..
good thing you guys had snow tires
Amazing landing ! Bless the Pilots !
Impressive, thanks for sharing.
Nice video! great landing
Was this Category II ILS 31R? Very nice, got the visual right about 250 feet off the ground, well flown gentlemen!
+Riley Woods yes, the autopilot always does a perfect job.
Well, I bet if they hand flew the approach it would be just as perfect. Ha! Nice share.
Cat I has 200ft minima while Cat II has 100ft minima.
Cat II needs a better approach lighting system than what 31R has.
you can check the approach plates here:
flightaware.com/resources/airport/KJFK/procedures
would have been nice to know what aircraft they were in.........oh well
I hate flying in and even above snowstorms, they get so bad on the east coast and are always bumpy. No avoiding them unfortunately during the holidays but lately have lucked out, no snow during Christmas at least.
Thank goodness for Otto Pilot!
With the bells at the end i reckon it was an embraer
Ben Brown LOL yup they are like old cars. They have to ring a bell or chime if you do just about anything.
BewareThe
LOTS of runway still to go. Nice landing.
What happens to the lights in the pavement when they plow? Wouldn't they get ripped out?
SUPERB....RESPECT!!!!!!! from ROMANIA
Great Landing!
When to turn the wipers on, in a heavy precip situation as this was, is a judgement call. Viz was good throughout the landing sequence. On the ground, there's no windstream to deflect the precip away from the windscreen. Ya always gotta get to the gate.
Safer to be in the air during a snowstorm than driving on I-95
i would've gotten a lil nervous near the end of the rollout (2:30) when i saw all the tire marks heading left and i found myself venturing into that pristine snow, where no plane appears to have gone before :)
who am i tryin to fool... i would've been nervous through out the entire approach :)
thx for the great video...
--Mike
daveyl123 back in the day, didn’t the Space Shuttle land at Edwards? Isn’t that the reason for such a long runway?
"Where no plane has gone before", hahaha. Good one.
BTW, what does one crew member say after system says twice "auto pilot"? I hear the "go to....." part but not the rest, did he say "manual"? Doesn't sound like it.
RedOcktober
Oh shut up you wannabe.
How does a plane not get into a skid in this?
Great video. Thanks for sharing it with us. It may be routine for you folks but it shows the geese in back what you guys do to earn your pay check. Now, if only you guys could hover.....
@blakman7
nope, from hearing the atc in other videos its a jetblue e190. (based on hearing the same guy's voice from the cockpit) ,you especially hear it in the canarsie app. vid
it always amazes me how harsh the ride is on the ground, I know planes aren't exactly designed to "drive" on the ground but damn it's a rough ride
The pilots' heart stops. Then he sees some reference and he must feel so relieved.
Whiper blades on kinda late?
What type of aircraft is this?
Great video.....
Great Video
Well that's NYC for you. When we have big blizzards, we take twice as long as Chicago to clean up because we don't have the proper equipment or slackers. Not to mention the blizzard we had on the last week of 2010
would it be hard to control the plane in situations like this after touching down?
Depends, as long as you keep the autobrake on low or medium and don't steer hard, then no
Merry Christmas 2017 !!
no vision, no vison, no vision, suddenly the landing field appears right in front of them.
god blesscthe electronics in that cases. i would have already written my testament ^^
What are the 3 markings on the bottom of the window?
window heaters
Hooray for reverse thrust ! :)
Very nice landing.
Is it mandatory for pilots to be certified to fly in IMC as well as be instrument rated? I know some private pilots aren’t that fly cessnas and cirrus
Private pilots are not required. In fact there are limitations too how close to clouds you can fly in VFR. IMC Training is part of the Instrument rating. Its when you get the wear the big dorky hood that keeps you from seeing anything but inside the cockpit.
@ellnegro There is almost always icing in cloud in the winter. How severe is the question.
this is one hell if a pilot landing in that type of condition
Pilots do it all day kid
Snow Board Well, once or twice a month anyway. Except for last winter.
Amazing! Which aircraft?
What's the aircraft here....?? Thanks if anyone can reply :)
So the first flight to take off after the airport was shut down was tj4 Emirates 380 to Dubai. I was on that plane...it was insane scene in terminal 4.
Pet peeve: when videos like this don't identify the type of aircraft.
Beautiful landing! I thought it was 737 but it wasn`t.
thats some triple crown IMC
Good showcase why having all those lights on the runway is so important.
do you like these challenging landings?
No vipers on dude?
@frequentairbusflyer8 actually blakman was correct, in every video once they exit the runway their callsign is clearly "eagle or eagle flight", not jetblue.
Couldn’t make the same exit as everyone else? Just had to make a statement with some fresh ruts in the undisturbed snow, huh? Just teasing. Great vid and landing!
n1 what plane
very nice!
I love how million dollar jets have windshield wipers off a car.
This is where the instruments don't lie. If the instruments say you're on course, then you're on course.
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Is that the ERJ145?
wow great job.
what airline is this, and what type of plane?
Autoland?
slick landing
Supposedly NYC Mayor Bloomberg's private jet was the last plane allowed to land during that blizzard.
Nice one!
So being as they extended into virgin snow, was the landing long or hot?
probably poor braking action in the slush.
According to me it was a very dangerous landing..:)
All that technology is nice to have.
what happen the runway full of snow so scary
Now that is some ifr flying... Was there any concern for icing? Hats off...
oh I remember that blizzard. i live just 2 miles from jfk
...sure u do... there are alot of blizzards.. but u be like "hey! I recognize that piece of snow at 3:42!"
so freaky nice :D
Maybe anti-ice on? xD
Impressive
Nice!
Wow!
Why didn't they use a CAT III runway?
Wind for example. 31 direction at JFK does not have CAT III or even CAT II. Also 22L/R are not as long as 31R.
And anyway with that visibility you don't need CAT III.
Trusting your instruments
I have done many times. No problem!
Class snow.
Forgot the wipers. :)
You would think they would have that de iced like a champ.Or have heated runways.
I'm not in the field of aviation, but I still find it quite surprising a pilot was permitted to land on a runway in that condition in the first place.
You'd be surprised to know then that it can get a lot worse than this, and they're still allowed to attempt the landing.
A08041988, Eventually the fuel available is going to be unusable and the aircraft is going to come into contact with hard ground again. You can either have it with the engines running and pilots trying to land or you can have it with engines not running and pilots not trying to land.
What the common man doesn't know is what makes them the common man.
A08041988 it’s just a bit of snow. ;)
A08041988 ive landed in worse.
Cool
Whoa
Sounds like they got some help from Otto Pilot.
LOL! I hope he didn't deflate!
So, the 'Otto Pilot' was flying?
balls of steel, or shall i say composite material
Did the pilot take control at 200 feet above ground?
Yes. You can hear a "Autopilot, Autopilot" callout, meaning they deactivated autopilot.
Brandon Earnhardt really?! Why?
Could be a lot of reasons. Not sure of the aircraft but pretty sure its an ERJ something. It might not have autoland but it most likely does. If not the ILS would have either kept them in the air or crashed them into the ground... The excessive rain and crosswind probably lead them to believe they would have better control. Also it looks like they flared longer than the autopilot would have. They must have been taking runway condition into account. The autopilot would have slammed it into the ground in those conditions not considering the conditions. They made the right choice I would say. The weather wasn't being random and the wind was consistent throughout. Contrary to popular belief, it is recommended for the pilot to land if the runway is in sight before 200'. If the pilot can't land it at that point because of weather there is no reason to believe the autoland could.
Brandon Earnhardt cool! Tx
There is not CAT III or even CAT II approach for 31R or 31L. Apart from that the wind does not look that gusty. Most autoland systems land the plane much more consistent than human pilots. It is recommended on some models if you need to land overweight if there are no avionics problems and the pilots are ok with it. The computers doing the autoland can combined with the radio altimeter very precisely control the sink rate and do a very smooth touchdown without floating.
sound like an ERJ
Somebody call a PLOW!
I would be afraid to go outside on that day much less fly and land in it.